Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Did you look online for information on the make and model? With ours, it 
was easy to find out how to open the top. On it, there are 2 clips on 
the front between the top and the front panel. Pushing in with a putty 
knife releases the clips and then one can pivot the top upwards out of 
the way and access screws that hold the front panel onto the side 
panels. Remove one screw on each side at the top and the front panel 
then tilts out and can be removed. That opens up the washer to the point 
where most of it is accessible.


I had an old friend, who has since passed on at the age of 93, who was 
quite proud of the fact that they were still using a dryer that they had 
purchased in the 40's. He had replaced bits of it a number of times and 
retrofitted newer parts to take the place of items no longer available. 
It had become a challenge for him to keep it going as long as he could. 
I believe it outlived him.


One of the concerns with longevity of our washer is that it is rusting 
in the bottom. I was not going to mess around with paint so I sprayed 
Boeshield B9 (I think that is the name of the stuff) on the rusty spots 
in the bottom in an effort to slow down the rusting. I have used it on 
things in the garage and it seems to work well. That is good as the 
stuff is expensive.


RB

On 18/02/2020 3:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I am painting and putting new tile down in my laundry room so I have 
been moving the W/D around.  The washer cabinet has come undone from 
the top, which appears to have all the guts bolted to it somehow.  The 
big sheet metal screws that hold the cabinet to the top, screwed in 
from underneath, are all rusted out where they screw into the top.  
This washer (sears) is probably at least 20yo, maybe older, I don't 
recall when I bought it, might have been when we moved to Houston or 
maybe we brought it there from the old house so it could be going on 
30yo.  Rather than fooling with it (and I am not even sure of how I 
would screw something inside the cabinet like that) I think I am just 
going to use some metal plates like for joining wood rafters and 
joists and what not and screw the top to the sides and be done with 
it.  I have some in the garage  I don't care what it looks like as 
long as it washes clothes.  Probably will get me another 20 years from 
the thing.





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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am painting and putting new tile down in my laundry room so I have 
been moving the W/D around.  The washer cabinet has come undone from the 
top, which appears to have all the guts bolted to it somehow.  The big 
sheet metal screws that hold the cabinet to the top, screwed in from 
underneath, are all rusted out where they screw into the top.  This 
washer (sears) is probably at least 20yo, maybe older, I don't recall 
when I bought it, might have been when we moved to Houston or maybe we 
brought it there from the old house so it could be going on 30yo.  
Rather than fooling with it (and I am not even sure of how I would screw 
something inside the cabinet like that) I think I am just going to use 
some metal plates like for joining wood rafters and joists and what not 
and screw the top to the sides and be done with it.  I have some in the 
garage  I don't care what it looks like as long as it washes clothes.  
Probably will get me another 20 years from the thing.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

We had a somewhat similar issue with a Maytag top loading washer 
recently. It was becoming unglued on the spin cycle too. It vibrated a 
lot which caused the control panel to vibrate against the top of the 
washer which created a lot of noise. I kept saying I would have a look 
at it and she kept saying she just wanted to buy a new washer.  I had a 
look online and the best suggestion seemed to be that 6 springs that go 
between the base and the drum around the tub become weak over time. The 
cost was pretty reasonable so I got a set and installed them. That 
reduced the vibration substantially. We don't recall what it was like 
when new but it appears to be much improved and much quieter so she is 
happy once again. The control panel housing still rattled against the 
top of the washer and there did not appear to means to tighten it so I 
cut some pieces of fairly soft plastic out of something from the 
recycling bin and pushed them into the crack between the top and the 
housing and that solved the problem. I think a bead of silicon would 
have worked fine but she was concerned that it would be hard to keep 
clean so I looked for another alternative.


I can say that changing out the springs was a miserable job. The 3 in 
front were not bad but the 3 in the back were hardly possible so I cut a 
good sized hole in the back of the cabinet and worked on it from behind. 
An air nibbler made short work of cutting a neat hole. I did not bother 
to put the piece back in. It cannot be seen on the back and the cabinet 
did not appear to be weakened.


I had difficulty stretching the new springs into position. They used to 
sell a tool for doing the job but it is not longer available. I ended up 
using a set of long vice grips and a set of small vice grips plus a 
block of 6 X 6 about 6 inches high. The long vice grips would not grip 
the spring wire hard enough not to slip so I put the small set of vice 
grips on the wire and then used the long ones under the little ones and 
pried the spring up using the block of wood as the fulcrum. It took me 
most of a week working for a bit every night. I took it apart on Sunday 
evening and removed the old springs on Monday evening. I was busy 
Tuesday evening and did not work on it. Wednesday night I cut the hole 
in the back and fought with it. Thursday we got the set of long vice 
grips because I did not have enough leverage to get the springs on 
further into the cabinet where it was more difficult to reach while 
laying on the floor behind the washer. Thursday night I got the 3 back 
springs on. Then I got interrupted  when my son in Ottawa called to wish 
me a happy birthday and gave up for the night. Friday night I got the 3 
front springs on and put the cabinet back together. Saturday, I opened 
up the dryer and cleaned the lint out of it. Then we hooked both the 
washer and dryer back up and ran them and all was well. Not really my 
idea of fun. I am happy that I did not become an appliance repairman but 
I was happy to repair the thing so that it will work for a while longer.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Damn webmail sent while I was typing. 

I love the Fisher & Paykel top loading dryers from 10-15 years ago. 
I was going to get my mom a set of front loading Speed Queens back in 2002, but 
she didn't want to bend down to reach in them, and she didn't want them on tall 
platforms that would make them block the laundry room window. 
Got her a Ecosmart washer instead, and she loved it. When the top loading 
Smartload dryer came out, it was awesome. You just pull the clothes out of the 
top of the washer and throw them at the top of the dryer. 

One time I found an Intuitive washer with one broken fin on the agitator for 
$50, to go with my Intuitive dryer. 
Upon arrival at their house, I was aghast to learn that the reason for disposal 
was that a heating coil burned out in the dryer so they bought a new Samsung 
front loading set and had the dealer haul the dryer away. I would have paid 
them more than $50 for a good dryer with a fried coil. Got another $50 washer 
last summer, the more common Ecosmart variety, same mechanicals but less 
brains. This one had a bad drum bearing.

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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I love the Fisher & Paykel top loading dryers from 10-15 years ago. 
One time I found an Intuitive washer with one broken fin on the agitator for 
$50.`
> On February 16, 2020 at 8:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The wife posted something on fakebook about it I guess and there were 
> people talking about how theirs did that too and they bought new ones.  
> I guess it is true we live in a throw away society.
> 
> On 2/16/2020 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > Waytago!
> >
> > My 20 yr old "dependable" maytags just keep chugging along.   one 
> > dryer motor early on.   Hope to get another 20 years out of them.
> >
> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> February 16, 2020 at 4:34 PM
> >> For the last year or 2 our 11 year old Maytag front loading washing 
> >> machine has sounded like a jet taking off when it starts to spin.  
> >> Very loud bearing noise.  There is no official repair for this 
> >> problem, the solution from the manufacturers is to replace the outer 
> >> drum assembly. The problem is the bearing seal in the back starts 
> >> leaking them takes out the bearings after a while.  They are just 
> >> like wheel bearings on a car with an inner, outer and a seal.  There 
> >> are guys on Amazon and ebay that sell the kits.  The job requires 
> >> nearly complete disassembly of the machine.  The hardest part is 
> >> wresting the drum in and out of the chassis after you get everything 
> >> disconnected.  The actually replacing of the bearings after you get 
> >> the tub it is just like replacing them on a car.  From start to 
> >> finish the job was right at about 3 hours and $40 for parts.  Machine 
> >> is whisper quiet again. Much better than buying a new washer/dryer set.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The wife posted something on fakebook about it I guess and there were 
people talking about how theirs did that too and they bought new ones.  
I guess it is true we live in a throw away society.


On 2/16/2020 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Waytago!

My 20 yr old "dependable" maytags just keep chugging along.   one 
dryer motor early on.   Hope to get another 20 years out of them.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
February 16, 2020 at 4:34 PM
For the last year or 2 our 11 year old Maytag front loading washing 
machine has sounded like a jet taking off when it starts to spin.  
Very loud bearing noise.  There is no official repair for this 
problem, the solution from the manufacturers is to replace the outer 
drum assembly. The problem is the bearing seal in the back starts 
leaking them takes out the bearings after a while.  They are just 
like wheel bearings on a car with an inner, outer and a seal.  There 
are guys on Amazon and ebay that sell the kits.  The job requires 
nearly complete disassembly of the machine.  The hardest part is 
wresting the drum in and out of the chassis after you get everything 
disconnected.  The actually replacing of the bearings after you get 
the tub it is just like replacing them on a car.  From start to 
finish the job was right at about 3 hours and $40 for parts.  Machine 
is whisper quiet again. Much better than buying a new washer/dryer set.




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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bravo! I need to do some work on our clothes dryer. One on a long list ...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 16, 2020 5:35:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> For the last year or 2 our 11 year old Maytag front loading washing
> machine has sounded like a jet taking off when it starts to spin. Very
> loud bearing noise. There is no official repair for this problem, the
> solution from the manufacturers is to replace the outer drum assembly.
> The problem is the bearing seal in the back starts leaking them takes
> out the bearings after a while. They are just like wheel bearings on a
> car with an inner, outer and a seal. There are guys on Amazon and ebay
> that sell the kits. The job requires nearly complete disassembly of the
> machine. The hardest part is wresting the drum in and out of the
> chassis after you get everything disconnected. The actually replacing
> of the bearings after you get the tub it is just like replacing them on
> a car. From start to finish the job was right at about 3 hours and $40
> for parts. Machine is whisper quiet again. Much better than buying a
> new washer/dryer set.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT front loading washing machine bearings

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!

My 20 yr old "dependable" maytags just keep chugging along.   one dryer 
motor early on.   Hope to get another 20 years out of them.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
February 16, 2020 at 4:34 PM
For the last year or 2 our 11 year old Maytag front loading washing 
machine has sounded like a jet taking off when it starts to spin.  
Very loud bearing noise.  There is no official repair for this 
problem, the solution from the manufacturers is to replace the outer 
drum assembly. The problem is the bearing seal in the back starts 
leaking them takes out the bearings after a while.  They are just like 
wheel bearings on a car with an inner, outer and a seal.  There are 
guys on Amazon and ebay that sell the kits.  The job requires nearly 
complete disassembly of the machine.  The hardest part is wresting the 
drum in and out of the chassis after you get everything disconnected.  
The actually replacing of the bearings after you get the tub it is 
just like replacing them on a car.  From start to finish the job was 
right at about 3 hours and $40 for parts.  Machine is whisper quiet 
again. Much better than buying a new washer/dryer set.




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