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He is still subscribed. Let's not revisit the past, please. If there is a question about someone being subscribed, just ask and I'll check. Dan On May 1, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What happened to him? Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Randy wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Yes. No more Dieselhead, fwiw. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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A rare time when dropping your pants is considered an improvement. Now if you could just get him to pee off the porch! Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 01, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I am hoping to have some time this weekend to check the injectors for Max and hopefully start stripping the extras off the good engine, if the weather stays decent. I was able to work several hours a couple Saturdays ago, but then the 2yo decided to drop his pants and whiz all over the porch. Whee! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I think he quit posting when politics were barred on the list, Roger. I don't know if he's still on the list or not. Gerry On 5/1/2014 9:46 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Mao, What happened to Dieselhead? Did I miss something? Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Original Message From:Dan PenoffSent:Friday, May 2, 2014 4:48 AMTo:Mercedes Discussion ListReply To:Mercedes Discussion ListSubject:Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?Let's not revisit the past, please.We revisit the past every time we discuss these old cars. :)A pleasant visit at that. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Does it rain much where you are Mitch? My '98 F150 had an issue with the GEM. The windshield leaked and dripped onto it causing all sorts of odd behaviour. AFAIK the car's been dry. The van has started every try since, and (according to the computer) is running at a reasonable voltage. I am now suspecting I have a short somewhere that comes out in the rain, it was very wet the night before the no-start. Thanks for the idea! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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4wd? I really wish I'd taken pictures of us leaving camp last spring plowing mud to the front bumper. Angie really wants a back seat and I'm willing to admit it helps with the dog but I'm also holding out that a full size can handle the three of us fine. We need to test one with the dog... -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:30:54 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: CANZcij_ojn6Ki4U3bFWEXNw4m0GEmcgf252zJ4T=ntwfivf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Our long bed, full sized F150 with 5.0 V8, trailer brakes, electric windows and door locks was $27,000 new. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If we like it I'd consider buying a new Frontier, you can get them for around $25k which is nice and its all the truck we need. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My '87 300D is purring nicely, and Tim Crone has the '91 locked-up 350SDL awaiting transplant. Ayup, trying to keep it clean in the interim so as not to end up with that damaged finish scenario. I am hoping to have some time this weekend to check the injectors for Max and hopefully start stripping the extras off the good engine, if the weather stays decent. I was able to work several hours a couple Saturdays ago, but then the 2yo decided to drop his pants and whiz all over the porch. Whee! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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My '13 F150 Supercrew has an amazing amount of room in the back seat area. Fold the seats up and there is a lot of room. My '02 seats folded differently and the space was not nearly as good. On 30/04/2014 8:30 PM, OK Don wrote: Our long bed, full sized F150 with 5.0 V8, trailer brakes, electric windows and door locks was $27,000 new. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If we like it I'd consider buying a new Frontier, you can get them for around $25k which is nice and its all the truck we need. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I know the feeling. I have a box full of parts I bought from Rusty that I have not yet installed. Randy On 30/04/2014 2:48 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Randy, et al. My 300TD is now the proud owner of a refurbished drive shaft assembly, new rubber bits and bearings. (It's about time, I've only had the parts 2 years!!) The disks were getting ragged and the center mount was torn free with a crunchy bearing. It is difficult to type whilst under the car, wrenches in hand dodging rain drops. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My '13 F150 Supercrew has an amazing amount of room in the back seat area. Fold the seats up and there is a lot of room. My '02 seats folded differently and the space was not nearly as good. My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - the rear seats come out easily enough, but every time I have to put them back in I end up cursing gravity. (I have them next to the driveway under tarps, but they've been getting soaked anyway and eventually will rust away - not sure what to do about that.) It can move 160 ft^3 in the cargo area, three kids, and two adults without a trailer. It is also obscenely expensive to drive, I am happy to get 14.5 MPG recently. It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 01/05/2014 10:34 AM, Tim Crone wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My '13 F150 Supercrew has an amazing amount of room in the back seat area. Fold the seats up and there is a lot of room. My '02 seats folded differently and the space was not nearly as good. My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - the rear seats come out easily enough, but every time I have to put them back in I end up cursing gravity. (I have them next to the driveway under tarps, but they've been getting soaked anyway and eventually will rust away - not sure what to do about that.) It can move 160 ft^3 in the cargo area, three kids, and two adults without a trailer. It is also obscenely expensive to drive, I am happy to get 14.5 MPG recently. It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) Best, Tim ___ I had a Suburban for a long while and it was similar in the sense that the 3rd seat was hefty and hard to manoever into the right spot. The Sub is not tall enough to let one stand, even bent over, so one is trying to lift this thing while on one's knees. Nice to have when one needed more seating and nice that it was removable so that one could haul more but a bit of a pain as once out of the vehicle, it had to be stored somewhere too. Decent cloth seats so not to be left outdoors to get wet. The Sub was good in many ways. had seat belts for 9 people. Pull the 3rd row seat, flip the 2nd row seats and put 4X8 sheets of plywood or whatever inside and close the rear doors. I hauled all of the shingles to re-roof the cottage out in the back under our luggage on trips to the lake. I would take 6 or 8 bundles each time. Bought the whole works on a good sale and stacked them in my garage along the wall. Took all summer to get them out to the lake but I did not make a special trip. That was close to 20 years back now. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Tim Crone wrote: My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) my 1998 Taurus apparently has a failed GEM. Draws about 1/3A unless you pull the GEM fuse or the battery saver fuse. Fine out which high power fuse feeds the interior fuse box. Pull it and put an ammeter across its terminals. If that's where the power drain is, pull the battery saver fuse in the other fuse box and see if it goes away. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Thu, 01 May 2014 11:54:33 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tim Crone wrote: My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) my 1998 Taurus apparently has a failed GEM. Gigantic Electric Motor? Grille Enhancement Modification? Guidance Enablement Module? Green Envy Multitude? General Electric Management? :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 01/05/2014 11:17 AM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 01 May 2014 11:54:33 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tim Crone wrote: My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) my 1998 Taurus apparently has a failed GEM. Gigantic Electric Motor? Grille Enhancement Modification? Guidance Enablement Module? Green Envy Multitude? General Electric Management? :-) Craig ___ General Electrical Module I think ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 01/05/2014 10:54 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Tim Crone wrote: My Ford E350 wagon is good for towing and carrying lots of stuff - It didn't start this morning, for the first time ever. I used my jumper box, not sure if one of my accessories shorted or if the battery is done. At least it's only a group 65, not a big battery like a real vehicle. :) my 1998 Taurus apparently has a failed GEM. Draws about 1/3A unless you pull the GEM fuse or the battery saver fuse. Fine out which high power fuse feeds the interior fuse box. Pull it and put an ammeter across its terminals. If that's where the power drain is, pull the battery saver fuse in the other fuse box and see if it goes away. Mitch. ___ Does it rain much where you are Mitch? My '98 F150 had an issue with the GEM. The windshield leaked and dripped onto it causing all sorts of odd behaviour. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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We test drove a Toyota Tunda 4dr (everybody has their own name for it) a couple weeks ago. It was palatial inside, definitely no problem seating 5 people, maybe 6 if some were small. I don't see us needing the extra space of a full size 4dr, we get along just fine in the Ranger now. The only time the Ranger has been inadequate is when towing cars, it was okay for the Jetta but overmatched with the 190D. If we bought a single cab pickup I'd either get a cap for the rear or a full width toolbox. Angie likes to carry a bunch of junk. I tried explaining to her that 90% of whats in the back seat she doesn't need 90% of the time, you can guess how that turned out... -Curt Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 10:13:44 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: 536264a8.1080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My '13 F150 Supercrew has an amazing amount of room in the back seat area. Fold the seats up and there is a lot of room. My '02 seats folded differently and the space was not nearly as good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Nope, not 4WD. It does have the electric rear axle locking though, and lots of ground clearance. It probably has enough room behind the front seat for a mid sized dog - that was one of the deciding factors between the different manufacturers of trucks. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: 4wd? I really wish I'd taken pictures of us leaving camp last spring plowing mud to the front bumper. Angie really wants a back seat and I'm willing to admit it helps with the dog but I'm also holding out that a full size can handle the three of us fine. We need to test one with the dog... -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I have the triple fold hard aluminum tonneau cover on my truck and so far I like it. It can be folded back to open up most of the box. It can be readily removed and it not heavy. It permits me to hide and reasonably secure whatever is in the box. It is reasonably sealed so things in the box should stay dry. Not quite so cumbersome as a cap and not nearly so expensive. Randy On 01/05/2014 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: We test drove a Toyota Tunda 4dr (everybody has their own name for it) a couple weeks ago. It was palatial inside, definitely no problem seating 5 people, maybe 6 if some were small. I don't see us needing the extra space of a full size 4dr, we get along just fine in the Ranger now. The only time the Ranger has been inadequate is when towing cars, it was okay for the Jetta but overmatched with the 190D. If we bought a single cab pickup I'd either get a cap for the rear or a full width toolbox. Angie likes to carry a bunch of junk. I tried explaining to her that 90% of whats in the back seat she doesn't need 90% of the time, you can guess how that turned out... -Curt Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 10:13:44 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: 536264a8.1080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My '13 F150 Supercrew has an amazing amount of room in the back seat area. Fold the seats up and there is a lot of room. My '02 seats folded differently and the space was not nearly as good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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regarding mr sterling -- while i certainly have no love of political correctness (or, for that matter, minorities), i side with the NBA on this matter. as an owner of an NBA franchise, you represent the league in both public and private as all of your actions impact the collective of owners and the league itself. while you do retain your right to be an individual, the league also ought to sanction you when your individual expression is harmful to the league and its members. i personally don't have an issue with this guy. first off, i think his comments are obviously blown out of proportion. he's got a black girlfriend and owns an NBA team -- not quite anything that would be approved of by the society of friends of adolf hitler. he's just another crazy old jew from queens (or, in this case, los angeles by way of chicago) and all of us talk this way as we never shut up and might be trying to be funny or are just expressing our frustration. my guess is that it means nothing or next to nothing. none the less, i'd support his censure, although probably not a life ban or anything close to that On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I was driving my '83 300D beater through Crystal RIver which is a short distance from the outer edge of the tidal swamp that makes up the coast of this part of north central Florida when some big sea bird (probably a pelican) dumped a huge load of white feces on the hood. I was on the way home so I didn't stop to clean it off. By the time I arrived at the house, the pelicans present had dried and was barely removeable with a garden hose. It stained the evenly oxidized blue finish of the beater, and as everyone knows, there is no way to get stain out of oxidized paint besides letting it continue to oxidize until the paint has powdered off and the stain is gone. There are many advantages to having a Mercedes daily driver with oxidized paint. No one envies me for having a Mercedes, and thieves don't even think about breaking into it since there is little likelihood of anything valuable being inside. So you see, Randy, there are always problems with our old Mercedes. It's just that many are hardly worth discussing. As far as discussing current events, Amanda Knox has once against been declared guilty of murdering her room mate by an Italian court. Does anything think she is guilty? Not guilty? Personally I think she is guilty. Mr. Sterlings team has been barred from playing in his league because Mr. Sterling said some bad words in private. How is this justified in light of the Constitutions freedom of speech? Gerry On 4/30/2014 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I think there is a jilted soon to be ex wife in the equation, too. That is, someone who would be looking to take him down a peg or two. Dan On May 1, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: regarding mr sterling -- while i certainly have no love of political correctness (or, for that matter, minorities), i side with the NBA on this matter. as an owner of an NBA franchise, you represent the league in both public and private as all of your actions impact the collective of owners and the league itself. while you do retain your right to be an individual, the league also ought to sanction you when your individual expression is harmful to the league and its members. i personally don't have an issue with this guy. first off, i think his comments are obviously blown out of proportion. he's got a black girlfriend and owns an NBA team -- not quite anything that would be approved of by the society of friends of adolf hitler. he's just another crazy old jew from queens (or, in this case, los angeles by way of chicago) and all of us talk this way as we never shut up and might be trying to be funny or are just expressing our frustration. my guess is that it means nothing or next to nothing. none the less, i'd support his censure, although probably not a life ban or anything close to that On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I was driving my '83 300D beater through Crystal RIver which is a short distance from the outer edge of the tidal swamp that makes up the coast of this part of north central Florida when some big sea bird (probably a pelican) dumped a huge load of white feces on the hood. I was on the way home so I didn't stop to clean it off. By the time I arrived at the house, the pelicans present had dried and was barely removeable with a garden hose. It stained the evenly oxidized blue finish of the beater, and as everyone knows, there is no way to get stain out of oxidized paint besides letting it continue to oxidize until the paint has powdered off and the stain is gone. There are many advantages to having a Mercedes daily driver with oxidized paint. No one envies me for having a Mercedes, and thieves don't even think about breaking into it since there is little likelihood of anything valuable being inside. So you see, Randy, there are always problems with our old Mercedes. It's just that many are hardly worth discussing. As far as discussing current events, Amanda Knox has once against been declared guilty of murdering her room mate by an Italian court. Does anything think she is guilty? Not guilty? Personally I think she is guilty. Mr. Sterlings team has been barred from playing in his league because Mr. Sterling said some bad words in private. How is this justified in light of the Constitutions freedom of speech? Gerry On 4/30/2014 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages
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Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Still here, all purring, 95 E300D just got new Bosio nozzles and EGR disabled, made 31 mpg average from Seattle to San Jose two weeks ago, need to check out front end. 82 300CD Daily driver (former Jim C car) just turned 201k mi. Need to check out front and rear end. 85 190E (daughter's car) need to check out fan clutch gets hot in slow traffic. 77 240d gone to a friend but I still maintain, needs rear control arm bushings. daveL Lynnwood Wa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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W140 with 260k is still running strong; had an incident last weekend where the AC didn't come on, but it's been fine since. I'm going to attribute it to operator error, as I don't see anything else that could cause it. It does have an EGR code it keeps throwing, but I'm almost sure it's a bad connection or wire to the vacuum valve, as everything else in the system is fine. R129 continues to run well. I have been driving with the hard to in place as I had the windows tinted recently and it's getting hotter here (85+ during the day) so it's not exactly comfortable to have the top down. I am surprised that I gain a couple of miles per gallon with the hard top in place - I had no idea the soft top created that much drag! With the had top in place I am regularly getting 20+ MPG with an almost 50-50 mix of surface streets vs. highway. Not bad for a five liter V8. W124 is doing well, I guess - I don't get much feedback from the oldest boy, and it is his car. I know it's closing in on 206k, but other than needing some tires soon it must be running all right or he would be asking me about it. It's truly a $1000 beater but it's been a great first car for him and has held up well - thanks, Tony! I would really like to get the wife into a W140 sedan, like an S500, but she clings to her Mazda6 and has no interest in driving a Benz. I guess I could give her the SL500 and get a W140 sedan for myself, but I know she would thrash the car to an early death. I'm going to replace her car next year, but it will probably be with a relatively late model Mazda or something similar. Dan Sent from my iPad On May 1, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Dave dbl...@comcast.net wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Still here, all purring, 95 E300D just got new Bosio nozzles and EGR disabled, made 31 mpg average from Seattle to San Jose two weeks ago, need to check out front end. 82 300CD Daily driver (former Jim C car) just turned 201k mi. Need to check out front and rear end. 85 190E (daughter's car) need to check out fan clutch gets hot in slow traffic. 77 240d gone to a friend but I still maintain, needs rear control arm bushings. daveL Lynnwood Wa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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i got a daewoo and a bicycle On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: W140 with 260k is still running strong; had an incident last weekend where the AC didn't come on, but it's been fine since. I'm going to attribute it to operator error, as I don't see anything else that could cause it. It does have an EGR code it keeps throwing, but I'm almost sure it's a bad connection or wire to the vacuum valve, as everything else in the system is fine. R129 continues to run well. I have been driving with the hard to in place as I had the windows tinted recently and it's getting hotter here (85+ during the day) so it's not exactly comfortable to have the top down. I am surprised that I gain a couple of miles per gallon with the hard top in place - I had no idea the soft top created that much drag! With the had top in place I am regularly getting 20+ MPG with an almost 50-50 mix of surface streets vs. highway. Not bad for a five liter V8. W124 is doing well, I guess - I don't get much feedback from the oldest boy, and it is his car. I know it's closing in on 206k, but other than needing some tires soon it must be running all right or he would be asking me about it. It's truly a $1000 beater but it's been a great first car for him and has held up well - thanks, Tony! I would really like to get the wife into a W140 sedan, like an S500, but she clings to her Mazda6 and has no interest in driving a Benz. I guess I could give her the SL500 and get a W140 sedan for myself, but I know she would thrash the car to an early death. I'm going to replace her car next year, but it will probably be with a relatively late model Mazda or something similar. Dan Sent from my iPad On May 1, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Dave dbl...@comcast.net wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Still here, all purring, 95 E300D just got new Bosio nozzles and EGR disabled, made 31 mpg average from Seattle to San Jose two weeks ago, need to check out front end. 82 300CD Daily driver (former Jim C car) just turned 201k mi. Need to check out front and rear end. 85 190E (daughter's car) need to check out fan clutch gets hot in slow traffic. 77 240d gone to a friend but I still maintain, needs rear control arm bushings. daveL Lynnwood Wa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Randy Bennell wrote: Does it rain much where you are Mitch? My '98 F150 had an issue with the GEM. The windshield leaked and dripped onto it causing all sorts of odd behaviour. AFAIK the car's been dry. Rained pretty hard on me today, but nothing inside the car except for when I ran a window down for a few seconds. Going to put 400 miles on the thing tomorrow. At the end of the day, I'll know whether I'll drive it this summer and hand it down in the fall or just sell it. If I hand it down to the niece, 7 month's worth of liability insurance will cost as much as I paid for the thing if I keep it in my name. If I sign it over to her, 2 1/2 months' insurance will equal the price of the car. And I thought it was bad when I had to pay about $15-20 a month to be added to my parents' insurance when I was 16. Mitch. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Yep, at sixteen, you had it made and didn't know it - typical, isn't it? Wilt - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Randy Bennell wrote: Does it rain much where you are Mitch? My '98 F150 had an issue with the GEM. The windshield leaked and dripped onto it causing all sorts of odd behaviour. AFAIK the car's been dry. Rained pretty hard on me today, but nothing inside the car except for when I ran a window down for a few seconds. Going to put 400 miles on the thing tomorrow. At the end of the day, I'll know whether I'll drive it this summer and hand it down in the fall or just sell it. If I hand it down to the niece, 7 month's worth of liability insurance will cost as much as I paid for the thing if I keep it in my name. If I sign it over to her, 2 1/2 months' insurance will equal the price of the car. And I thought it was bad when I had to pay about $15-20 a month to be added to my parents' insurance when I was 16. Mitch. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Interestingly Ford is quoting quite high fuel economy with their v6 turbo engine. I'll need to drive one to see if its worth having. I did have a Chevy rental last year, 4dr 4wd and the v6 was powerful enough. Quite buzzy as I had to keep it in 3rd on the highway (no joke) towing my 240D but it did the job and turned in decent fuel economy. -Curt Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 11:46:11 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: CANZcij8gJ-HvR4BN05_xC=lo+zmo0oxvoy+ooyz-f7rrg57...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Nope, not 4WD. It does have the electric rear axle locking though, and lots of ground clearance. It probably has enough room behind the front seat for a mid sized dog - that was one of the deciding factors between the different manufacturers of trucks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Good reminder, a cap would make it difficult to put a snowmobile back there... -Curt Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 12:06:06 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: 53627efe.9030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have the triple fold hard aluminum tonneau cover on my truck and so far I like it. It can be folded back to open up most of the box. It can be readily removed and it not heavy. It permits me to hide and reasonably secure whatever is in the box. It is reasonably sealed so things in the box should stay dry. Not quite so cumbersome as a cap and not nearly so expensive. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Randy wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Yes. No more Dieselhead, fwiw. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Gary wrote: i got a daewoo and a bicycle I'm gonna come steal your bicycle. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Dan wrote: I think there is a jilted soon to be ex wife in the equation, too. That is, someone who would be looking to take him down a peg or two. The whole event wreaks of collusion. Mr. Sterling's words did not even use derogatory language regarding people of color. He spoke quite rationally regarding his desire for girlfriend's actions. I heard zero racism. Yes, Craig is correct - the thought police are running the asylum and have been since George Orwell - 1984. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Mao, What happened to Dieselhead? Did I miss something? Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What happened to him? Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Randy wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? Yes. No more Dieselhead, fwiw. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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The dealer talked me out of the V6 turbo - but I don't remember why. I think it was more expensive as well. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Interestingly Ford is quoting quite high fuel economy with their v6 turbo engine. I'll need to drive one to see if its worth having. I did have a Chevy rental last year, 4dr 4wd and the v6 was powerful enough. Quite buzzy as I had to keep it in 3rd on the highway (no joke) towing my 240D but it did the job and turned in decent fuel economy. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Kaleb wrote: What happened to him? I don't know. I just mention I haven't seen his name in a month. Perhaps when Dan took over the moderation there was a bit of heat? - I don't know?? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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what did he do here other than slander me? now that that behavior is no longer encouraged, why would he remain here? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: What happened to him? I don't know. I just mention I haven't seen his name in a month. Perhaps when Dan took over the moderation there was a bit of heat? - I don't know?? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Who he? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: what did he do here other than slander me? now that that behavior is no longer encouraged, why would he remain here? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: What happened to him? I don't know. I just mention I haven't seen his name in a month. Perhaps when Dan took over the moderation there was a bit of heat? - I don't know?? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Thu, 1 May 2014 23:31:24 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: what did he do here other than slander me? He provided good information. Information about Paint Colors Check engine light Check engine light codes Diesel leaks on injection pump delivery valve o-rings BR2-Plus grease Jack stands and Jacks Snowblowers Monoprice.com for cables and adapters Axes and splitting mauls Pulling timing chain pins out of heads Changing timing chains Deer avoidance devices Sources for small electric motors Diesel rough idle and smoking on startup OM603 freeze plug replacement Intermittent Hardstarts Lubricants JD Backhoe repairs among many others. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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so why do you think he left once his vicious nasty stuff was no longer tolerated if he was about all that other stuff? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 23:31:24 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: what did he do here other than slander me? He provided good information. Information about Paint Colors Check engine light Check engine light codes Diesel leaks on injection pump delivery valve o-rings BR2-Plus grease Jack stands and Jacks Snowblowers Monoprice.com for cables and adapters Axes and splitting mauls Pulling timing chain pins out of heads Changing timing chains Deer avoidance devices Sources for small electric motors Diesel rough idle and smoking on startup OM603 freeze plug replacement Intermittent Hardstarts Lubricants JD Backhoe repairs among many others. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Fri, 2 May 2014 00:15:17 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: so why do you think he left once his vicious nasty stuff was no longer tolerated if he was about all that other stuff? You don't know that he has left. Besides, why air your grievances again? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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a question is raised. i try to answer it intelligently when cross burning is no longer tolerated in a town the grand dragon moves on to another town. no? i don't wish to engage you in your hate politics, so i won't have any more discussions with you, but when people ask questions and i feel i have the answer, i try to share the solution. i'm sorry i've offended you in doing so On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2014 00:15:17 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: so why do you think he left once his vicious nasty stuff was no longer tolerated if he was about all that other stuff? You don't know that he has left. Besides, why air your grievances again? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Randy, et al. My 300TD is now the proud owner of a refurbished drive shaft assembly, new rubber bits and bearings. (It's about time, I've only had the parts 2 years!!) The disks were getting ragged and the center mount was torn free with a crunchy bearing. It is difficult to type whilst under the car, wrenches in hand dodging rain drops. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I was driving my '83 300D beater through Crystal RIver which is a short distance from the outer edge of the tidal swamp that makes up the coast of this part of north central Florida when some big sea bird (probably a pelican) dumped a huge load of white feces on the hood. I was on the way home so I didn't stop to clean it off. By the time I arrived at the house, the pelicans present had dried and was barely removeable with a garden hose. It stained the evenly oxidized blue finish of the beater, and as everyone knows, there is no way to get stain out of oxidized paint besides letting it continue to oxidize until the paint has powdered off and the stain is gone. There are many advantages to having a Mercedes daily driver with oxidized paint. No one envies me for having a Mercedes, and thieves don't even think about breaking into it since there is little likelihood of anything valuable being inside. So you see, Randy, there are always problems with our old Mercedes. It's just that many are hardly worth discussing. As far as discussing current events, Amanda Knox has once against been declared guilty of murdering her room mate by an Italian court. Does anything think she is guilty? Not guilty? Personally I think she is guilty. Mr. Sterlings team has been barred from playing in his league because Mr. Sterling said some bad words in private. How is this justified in light of the Constitutions freedom of speech? Gerry On 4/30/2014 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Actually my fleet has been chugging along nicely. The '84 190D has responded well to some highway flogging. You might remember I had some complaints about cold starts on it, after making the run to work a couple times and once to have breakfast with Fred its much improved. I order some diesel purge in my last order of VW parts which should finish the job. The Jetta seems like it needs a glow plug or two, I put in a new glowplug harness which got the check engine light to shut off for awhile but its back. I need to get under the hood with the multi-meter. Apparently rounding off the flats on the glow plugs is very common on these so I'm nervous. Car starts perfectly, but its been so warm the glow plugs don't even come on. The search for a Ranger replacement continues. Next to test is Nissan, Frontier and Titan. If we like it I'd consider buying a new Frontier, you can get them for around $25k which is nice and its all the truck we need. Today's job for normal life was to convert my formerly corporate cell phone to an individual responsibility that the company gives me a stipend to have. Looks like my useage is low enough I'll actually be ahead $10 or $20/mo on the deal. -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:42:44 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Message-ID: 53614424.9090...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I feel your pain in regard to the bird issue. I had a similar scenario with my car a while back. My paint is not oxidized but it is apparently enamel without clear coat. The spot is still visible after washing etc. I have not tried to rub it out with some compound but that may help so I do have intention to try it. As to the basketball ban, I could not agree with you more. The whole politically correct nonsense is becoming a problem. The media loves this stuff and any poor soul who defies the politically correct agenda is hung out to dry. Is it ok to be a bigot so long as you don't say anything that might give you away? My basic feeling is that the black people are a whole lot better off with a situation where they know who the bigots are than they are with a situation where people keep their opinions quiet. On 30/04/2014 3:17 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I was driving my '83 300D beater through Crystal RIver which is a short distance from the outer edge of the tidal swamp that makes up the coast of this part of north central Florida when some big sea bird (probably a pelican) dumped a huge load of white feces on the hood. I was on the way home so I didn't stop to clean it off. By the time I arrived at the house, the pelicans present had dried and was barely removeable with a garden hose. It stained the evenly oxidized blue finish of the beater, and as everyone knows, there is no way to get stain out of oxidized paint besides letting it continue to oxidize until the paint has powdered off and the stain is gone. There are many advantages to having a Mercedes daily driver with oxidized paint. No one envies me for having a Mercedes, and thieves don't even think about breaking into it since there is little likelihood of anything valuable being inside. So you see, Randy, there are always problems with our old Mercedes. It's just that many are hardly worth discussing. As far as discussing current events, Amanda Knox has once against been declared guilty of murdering her room mate by an Italian court. Does anything think she is guilty? Not guilty? Personally I think she is guilty. Mr. Sterlings team has been barred from playing in his league because Mr. Sterling said some bad words in private. How is this justified in light of the Constitutions freedom of speech? Gerry On 4/30/2014 2:42 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I have discovered that part of the issue is that the mail is going to the spam box. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Randy, et al. My 300TD is now the proud owner of a refurbished drive shaft assembly, new rubber bits and bearings. (It's about time, I've only had the parts 2 years!!) The disks were getting ragged and the center mount was torn free with a crunchy bearing. It is difficult to type whilst under the car, wrenches in hand dodging rain drops. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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My '87 300D is purring nicely, and Tim Crone has the '91 locked-up 350SDL awaiting transplant. Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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The new belt on my '95 E300 still squeals on almost every start, and sometimes at low engine speed when loaded by a sharp turn. I'm considering cleaning it at the local car a wash. Engine on, hood up, spray off the accessory belts and pulleys with soapy water and then rinse. Any opinions on this cleaning idea? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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The thought police are now running the asylum. You can lose your job or have your property confiscated if your thoughts or words are not politically correct (an oxymoron if there ever was one). George Orwell's prediction was just a few years early. Scott -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:17 PM ... Mr. Sterlings team has been barred from playing in his league because Mr. Sterling said some bad words in private. How is this justified in light of the Constitutions freedom of speech? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:44:53 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The thought police are now running the asylum. You can lose your job or have your property confiscated if your thoughts or words are not politically correct (an oxymoron if there ever was one). George Orwell's prediction was just a few years early. Isn't it a few years late? Like 30? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Definitely Double Un-Good! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:44:53 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The thought police are now running the asylum. You can lose your job or have your property confiscated if your thoughts or words are not politically correct (an oxymoron if there ever was one). George Orwell's prediction was just a few years early. Isn't it a few years late? Like 30? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Wilton. Was the Attaboy for being quiet or for replying to the post? Thanks! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? ATTABOY! Wilt Randy, et al. My 300TD is now the proud owner of a refurbished drive shaft assembly, new rubber bits and bearings. (It's about time, I've only had the parts 2 years!!) The disks were getting ragged and the center mount was torn free with a crunchy bearing. It is difficult to type whilst under the car, wrenches in hand dodging rain drops. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Refurbishing the drive shaft. Wilt - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? Wilton. Was the Attaboy for being quiet or for replying to the post? Thanks! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List? ATTABOY! Wilt Randy, et al. My 300TD is now the proud owner of a refurbished drive shaft assembly, new rubber bits and bearings. (It's about time, I've only had the parts 2 years!!) The disks were getting ragged and the center mount was torn free with a crunchy bearing. It is difficult to type whilst under the car, wrenches in hand dodging rain drops. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Quiet List? Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Our long bed, full sized F150 with 5.0 V8, trailer brakes, electric windows and door locks was $27,000 new. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If we like it I'd consider buying a new Frontier, you can get them for around $25k which is nice and its all the truck we need. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
