Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Having made that same drive, the other way in daylight, that is quite the voyage. Glad it turned out to not be a complete disaster, but only a huge fixable mess. On Monday, September 12, 2005, at 08:52 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: snipJason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM snip -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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The FSM takes care of the faithfull Diesel Benz and it's owner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Mitch Haley wrote: I believe Ford had a gauge option in the 7.3 PSD with four speed. Sort of an on/off gauge like the engine temp of the same vintage. It had two readings, OK and please deposit $3,000. Supposedly the idiot lights with needles result in fewer service calls than real gauges, some owners would bring their truck in under warranty if a temp gauge started reading higher than when new, so Ford designed a gauge that always read the same unless there was a real failure. Volvo 240 temperature gauges are the same way, from '86 on. They started adding a temperature compensation board that divides the temperature range into three categories -- cold, OK, and hot. The gauge reads in the center as long as the temperature is in the OK range, then is driven to the upper peg when it reaches hot. The motive was supposedly the same, to reduce warranty claims. The boards have a tendency to fail, and the basic gauge is still the same, so like a lot of people I removed mine and soldered a jumper in its place. I don't really appreciate that sort of chicanery.
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His Newdley Goodness supports and caresses the faithful Ramen On Monday, September 12, 2005, at 07:28 PM, OK Don wrote: The FSM takes care of the faithfull Diesel Benz and it's owner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Check the torque convertor drain plug! Else it's the front seal blown out or a cracked pump housing (ouch!). Hope it's the drain plug. Peter
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I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:19:14 -0500 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. With the rear wheels OFF the ground, I hope! Craig
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rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! Philip, gota have guages
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Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while.
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
Some Chevrolet 2500 trucks DO have transmission temperature gauges. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:50 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] SOS - update rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! Philip, gota have guages ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore!
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
No, no used ones, sorry. Christopher McCann wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! Christopher --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked to Jim again earlier this afternoon. He met a woman in the McD's parking lot where our adventure took place whose husband is a mechanic; he came over and took a look at it after I left and quickly reached the same conclusion of the input shaft seal. Jim's holed up at the Super 8 right now. A friend with a truck is en route from Kansas City, back to which they'll tow the poor 300D. I'm sure he'll have more details tomorrow. The underside and rear of the car were pretty clean with no ATF splattering, so hopefully the failure didn't happen until he stopped, preventing him from having pumped the trans empty and damaging it. Actually, the underside of his car is unbelievably clean. From below you'd never guess it grew up in Ohio. My car, also from Ohio, looks nice on the shiny side, but the undercarriage is definately suboptimal. Odd how that happens. Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
Thats no joke. JabbaHursty wrote: it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update - Kaleb - got a front pump for sale???
i refer all foreigners to kleb, yes At 02:03 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: Well, then, Kaleb should be put in charge of BIMBY's international division! Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's standard practice in the US auto parts business to ship canadiens last At 12:17 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote: If it was the front pump, he is one lucky guy if that transmission is still operable, even if the bill is going to be high (has to be, just for the fact it's a re/re job). May take a while to find a used pump from a reliable source. I doubt any used parts supplier is going to guarantee one. Of course, we *do* know a certain used parts supplier who might have one. IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO SHIP (yes, Kaleb, that was a HINT). LoL. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indy diagnosis - front pump shot. He's trying to find a used one cuz Jim is in grad school and ain't rich. I didn't talk to the Indy (Emery), so I didn't get any more details. Pump put too much pressure of the seals and blew them. Christopher --- Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason (co-worker of Jim and I and 300Dt owner) and I just got back with the car (flat bed trailer - all wheels off the ground). It's is probably the input shaft. We arrived in Greeville around 1 AM and the ATF didn't JUST GUSH out, it also SPRAYED out where the bell housing attaches to the engine. Indeed, you could not pour ATF in as fast as it was coming out. We towed the car to our VERY trustworthy Indy in KC (where we all go here) and he gave estimate of $900 to replace all the seals, which I think is a great price...(for those of you who recall my old Indy who I did not trust so much, this is not him, this guy is fantastic). I have had no sleep, nor has Jason or Jim. I am at work in greasy clothes, and I need a shower (boo-hoo), but the car is back and I think it could have been much worse. Jim called me as soon as he first saw the leak and when he checked the tranny level, it was good - exactly midway between full and add. With the leak that EXTREME, it HAD to have started moments before he pulled off the highway for diesel and dinner. Since the three of us are Catholics, we all agreed it was a direct intervention of God. If you're an athiest, then just think that Jim was the luckiest guy on the road that night. Car continued to shift fine, so I think the tranny itself is undamaged. Jim might have more details to add...my brain is too fried to remember much else. He was very happy for the help and concern of the list members. Maybe he won't be a lurker anymore! ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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rumor has it that David wrote: Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that David wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while. I've only seen it in big trucks, that is class 8 Semi. Those often have differential temperature gauges for both diffs as well as transmission and engine oil temperature. Someday I'll get a proper gauge setup in my vehicles Philip, dreamin'
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:35:03AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;) Because by the time the light comes on, whatever it was protecting is likely dead. Or a transmission temperature guage! I've occasionally seen transmission temperature gauges. Either Ford or Chevy had one on their really heavy duty pickup, for a while. Chevy HDs have them with the allison. Very easy to install aftermarket setups in everything else (like the powerchoke when I get around to it).o K
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Kevin wrote: Or a transmission temperature guage! Chevy HDs have them with the allison. Very easy to install aftermarket setups in everything else (like the powerchoke when I get around to it). I believe Ford had a gauge option in the 7.3 PSD with four speed. Sort of an on/off gauge like the engine temp of the same vintage. It had two readings, OK and please deposit $3,000. Supposedly the idiot lights with needles result in fewer service calls than real gauges, some owners would bring their truck in under warranty if a temp gauge started reading higher than when new, so Ford designed a gauge that always read the same unless there was a real failure.
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:12:12PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: I believe Ford had a gauge option in the 7.3 PSD with four speed. Sort of an on/off gauge like the engine temp of the same vintage. It had two readings, OK and please deposit $3,000. Supposedly the idiot lights with needles result in fewer service calls than real gauges, some owners would bring their truck in under warranty if a temp gauge started reading higher than when new, so Ford designed a gauge that always read the same unless there was a real failure. Do I know THAT too well. They actually redesigned the oil pressure sender to only send out two values (=6 psi or 6 psi), then used a resistor across the back of the gauge to make it so it wouldn't 'peg' with 7psi. Anyone with a Ford with one of these gauges (usually 88-97) that wants to fix this, send me a note offlist and I'll dig it up. K
Re: [MBZ] SOS - update
In a message dated 9/11/2005 11:38:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just got back from Greenville. Jim wasn't kidding when he said it was a massive leak - it leaks out faster than you can pour it in when the engine is running. There's no way the car can be driven. The fluid is leaking out of the torque convertor grate. It appears to be coming from the (input shaft?) seal between the TC and the transmission. Nothing so simple as a loose TC drain plug. Is there a simple seal in there or a bearing to keep the fluid in? I (and certainly Jim!) would appreciate any thoughts or advice. Tom, It is a very simple seal that seals the hub of the torque converter to the front of the trans. I think something must be loose or severely worn to induce this seal to fail. I hope it is as simple as loose converter to flexplate (flywheel) bolts. For history, has the trans been removed and replaced recently? Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
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tom savage wrote: Is there a simple seal in there or a bearing to keep the fluid in? There's the front seal on the input shaft... -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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The tranny is going to have to be pulled to replace that seal. Could also be the front pump gasket maybe. Either way, the tranny has to come out. tom savage wrote: I just got back from Greenville. Jim wasn't kidding when he said it was a massive leak - it leaks out faster than you can pour it in when the engine is running. There's no way the car can be driven. The fluid is leaking out of the torque convertor grate. It appears to be coming from the (input shaft?) seal between the TC and the transmission. Nothing so simple as a loose TC drain plug. Is there a simple seal in there or a bearing to keep the fluid in? I (and certainly Jim!) would appreciate any thoughts or advice. Thanks, Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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You need to look at the condition of the fluid that's left. If it has metal flakes then it will also need a rebuild. Often, a massive leak will lead to a damaged transmission before the driver can stop. This happened to me on the way home from Tuscaloosa, AL in my 87 300SDL. My tranny blew a front seal and I pumped out fluid. The first I know about it was when I suddenly dropped from 4th to 3rd gear (at 70 MPH). I pulled off and found the fluid low and full of shiny metal flakes. The low fluid cause 4th gear to slop and I lost the 4th gear clutch. The problem turned out to be a failed front seal, the one that's between the tranny and the torque converter. $1760.00 later, I was back on the road. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:04 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] SOS - update The tranny is going to have to be pulled to replace that seal. Could also be the front pump gasket maybe. Either way, the tranny has to come out. tom savage wrote: I just got back from Greenville. Jim wasn't kidding when he said it was a massive leak - it leaks out faster than you can pour it in when the engine is running. There's no way the car can be driven. The fluid is leaking out of the torque convertor grate. It appears to be coming from the (input shaft?) seal between the TC and the transmission. Nothing so simple as a loose TC drain plug. Is there a simple seal in there or a bearing to keep the fluid in? I (and certainly Jim!) would appreciate any thoughts or advice. Thanks, Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Tom Hargrave wrote: Often, a massive leak will lead to a damaged transmission before the driver can stop. This happened to me on the way home from Tuscaloosa, AL in my 87 300SDL. My tranny blew a front seal and I pumped out fluid. The first I know about it was when I suddenly dropped from 4th to 3rd gear (at 70 MPH). I pulled off and found the fluid low and full of shiny metal flakes. I had the same thing happen on an '85 Ford Crown Vic, except it was the tailshaft seal. The trans apparently dumped all its fluid out at 70 mph on US-27, in the space of fifteen miles or so. I didn't have a clue until it started to make the car buck. Pulled off into a rest stop and discovered I couldn't get into reverse to back out again. (I found out later that, like Mercedes automatics, the Ford AOD is known for failing dramatically if it doesn't get regular fluid changes.) Why is there no such thing as a transmission oil pressure light? ;)
