Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> [wifi] is a lot more attractive and quicker/easier to install, set up, and 
> manage.

Putting on my black hat, I _love_ people using wireless for 'security'.  I just 
carry
along my spark-gap jammer and it's instantly all stopped.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

When you look at the cost of fiber and the related hardware necessary to manage 
it, the point to point approach is a lot more attractive and quicker/easier to 
install, set up, and manage.

That and it’s not like I have to have blazing bandwidth to the garage, either. 
Right now it’s working fine with a mesh system, I just want something more 
permanent.

Just my $0.02

-D

> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I have similar considerations on the great northern estate with our barn. 
> What with everything (eventually) having metal roofs I'm thinking that I'll 
> run fiber between the buildings when I run power to the barn. That way I need 
> never worry about bandwidth between house and barn or interference from the 
> roof or a barn full of tractors or whatever.
> 
> I don't keep anything particularly valuable or easily stealable in the barn 
> but someday I might so I'll increase the security...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 09:12:57 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> True, but in this case it was more a matter of distance from the house and 
> getting a WiFi signal out to the buildings (from the house).
> 
> I haven’t done it yet, but at the Flagstaff house, even though it’s only 
> about 40 feet or so between the structures, I’ll be doing point to point to 
> get a signal out to the garage using a couple of Ubiquiti dishes in a bridge 
> configuration. It’s maybe $400 for the hardware, easy to set up and 
> configure, and gives me 1.7 Gbps bi-directional bandwidth to the building, 
> with a 5GHz backup built in for redundancy. They’re good for 500 meters, I 
> believe, so I don’t think I’ll have any issues with power or bandwidth.
> 
> Main data frame in the house has a UPS that will support it for an hour, I’ll 
> have a smaller but similar setup in the garage as well. As long as the ISP 
> doesn’t go down, I’ll have connectivity.
> 
> This would be the idea setup for Kaleb if he wanted reliable connectivity 
> from the house to the shop/barn.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
>> wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and 
>> cable modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.
>> 
>> Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
>> power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for 
>> maybe 1 second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the 
>> worst thing in the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I should 
>> have gone to Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the dummies for 
>> double the price...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
>> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
>> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
>> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data 
>> on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on 
>> ones that see activity all day long.
>> 
>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>>> paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Kaleb,
 Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
 barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
 https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I have similar considerations on the great northern estate with our barn. What 
with everything (eventually) having metal roofs I'm thinking that I'll run 
fiber between the buildings when I run power to the barn. That way I need never 
worry about bandwidth between house and barn or interference from the roof or a 
barn full of tractors or whatever.

I don't keep anything particularly valuable or easily stealable in the barn but 
someday I might so I'll increase the security...

-Curt




On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 09:12:57 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





True, but in this case it was more a matter of distance from the house and 
getting a WiFi signal out to the buildings (from the house).

I haven’t done it yet, but at the Flagstaff house, even though it’s only about 
40 feet or so between the structures, I’ll be doing point to point to get a 
signal out to the garage using a couple of Ubiquiti dishes in a bridge 
configuration. It’s maybe $400 for the hardware, easy to set up and configure, 
and gives me 1.7 Gbps bi-directional bandwidth to the building, with a 5GHz 
backup built in for redundancy. They’re good for 500 meters, I believe, so I 
don’t think I’ll have any issues with power or bandwidth.

Main data frame in the house has a UPS that will support it for an hour, I’ll 
have a smaller but similar setup in the garage as well. As long as the ISP 
doesn’t go down, I’ll have connectivity.

This would be the idea setup for Kaleb if he wanted reliable connectivity from 
the house to the shop/barn.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
> wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and 
> cable modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.
> 
> Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
> power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for maybe 
> 1 second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the worst thing 
> in the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I should have gone to 
> Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the dummies for double the 
> price...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on 
> my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones 
> that see activity all day long.
> 
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>> paying for Data all the time.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
>>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Because concrete and pavers.

I can do a point to point setup in an hour or two. To run a cable I would be 
jackhammering up parts of a concrete pad and ripping up professionally 
installed pavers. Nope.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 9:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For 40 feet why not just run a cable?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 20:12, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> True, but in this case it was more a matter of distance from the house 
>> and getting a WiFi signal out to the buildings (from the house).
>> 
>> I haven’t done it yet, but at the Flagstaff house, even though it’s 
>> only about 40 feet or so between the structures, I’ll be doing point to 
>> point to get a signal out to the garage using a couple of Ubiquiti 
>> dishes in a bridge configuration. It’s maybe $400 for the hardware, 
>> easy to set up and configure, and gives me 1.7 Gbps bi-directional 
>> bandwidth to the building, with a 5GHz backup built in for redundancy. 
>> They’re good for 500 meters, I believe, so I don’t think I’ll have any 
>> issues with power or bandwidth.
>> 
>> Main data frame in the house has a UPS that will support it for an 
>> hour, I’ll have a smaller but similar setup in the garage as well. As 
>> long as the ISP doesn’t go down, I’ll have connectivity.
>> 
>> This would be the idea setup for Kaleb if he wanted reliable 
>> connectivity from the house to the shop/barn.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
>>> wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and 
>>> cable modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.
>>> 
>>> Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
>>> power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for 
>>> maybe 1 second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the 
>>> worst thing in the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I 
>>> should have gone to Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the 
>>> dummies for double the price...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
>>> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It 
>>> records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it 
>>> constantly the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just 
>>> checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 
>>> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>>> 
>>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to 
 keep paying for Data all the time.
 
 MG
 
 dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Kaleb,
> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

For 40 feet why not just run a cable?


On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 20:12, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> True, but in this case it was more a matter of distance from the house 
> and getting a WiFi signal out to the buildings (from the house).
>
> I haven’t done it yet, but at the Flagstaff house, even though it’s 
> only about 40 feet or so between the structures, I’ll be doing point to 
> point to get a signal out to the garage using a couple of Ubiquiti 
> dishes in a bridge configuration. It’s maybe $400 for the hardware, 
> easy to set up and configure, and gives me 1.7 Gbps bi-directional 
> bandwidth to the building, with a 5GHz backup built in for redundancy. 
> They’re good for 500 meters, I believe, so I don’t think I’ll have any 
> issues with power or bandwidth.
>
> Main data frame in the house has a UPS that will support it for an 
> hour, I’ll have a smaller but similar setup in the garage as well. As 
> long as the ISP doesn’t go down, I’ll have connectivity.
>
> This would be the idea setup for Kaleb if he wanted reliable 
> connectivity from the house to the shop/barn.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
>> wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and 
>> cable modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.
>> 
>> Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
>> power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for 
>> maybe 1 second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the 
>> worst thing in the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I should 
>> have gone to Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the dummies for 
>> double the price...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
>> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
>> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
>> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data 
>> on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on 
>> ones that see activity all day long.
>> 
>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>>> paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Kaleb,
 Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
 barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
 https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

True, but in this case it was more a matter of distance from the house and 
getting a WiFi signal out to the buildings (from the house).

I haven’t done it yet, but at the Flagstaff house, even though it’s only about 
40 feet or so between the structures, I’ll be doing point to point to get a 
signal out to the garage using a couple of Ubiquiti dishes in a bridge 
configuration. It’s maybe $400 for the hardware, easy to set up and configure, 
and gives me 1.7 Gbps bi-directional bandwidth to the building, with a 5GHz 
backup built in for redundancy. They’re good for 500 meters, I believe, so I 
don’t think I’ll have any issues with power or bandwidth.

Main data frame in the house has a UPS that will support it for an hour, I’ll 
have a smaller but similar setup in the garage as well. As long as the ISP 
doesn’t go down, I’ll have connectivity.

This would be the idea setup for Kaleb if he wanted reliable connectivity from 
the house to the shop/barn.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
> wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and 
> cable modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.
> 
> Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
> power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for maybe 
> 1 second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the worst thing 
> in the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I should have gone to 
> Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the dummies for double the 
> price...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on 
> my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones 
> that see activity all day long.
> 
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>> paying for Data all the time.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
>>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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https://youtu.be/AWhQNQoWo9s







On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 04:00:52 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I want one with a laser targeting system  I could hook up to a 
remote-controlled fully auto high-powered paint gun. 

Deterrence. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 2:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little “dome” 
> that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would probably 
> prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large of an area. 
> I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the driveway of the FL 
> home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the house and garage in AZ. 
> Both work just fine, but have their limitations. A lot depends on what you’re 
> trying to spot with the camera…
> 
> -D
> 
> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the entire 
> back yard.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on 
> my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones 
> that see activity all day long.
> 
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>>> paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
>>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In this day and age there isn't much excuse for not having backup for your 
wifi. It'd be far cheaper, long term, to put a UPS on the wifi router and cable 
modem than to use cellular data for your cameras.

Is everybody's local Facebook page full of halfwits? Ours sure is. We had a 
power problem where the power blinked every day at 11am, it was out for maybe 1 
second, maybe a second and a half. People acted like it was the worst thing in 
the world, "I need to be on Zoom." blah, blah, blah. I should have gone to 
Staples and bought a bunch of UPSs to sell to the dummies for double the 
price...

-Curt


On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 01:22:47 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, and 
if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records events 
and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly the amount 
of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on my wifi 
connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see 
activity all day long.

Just trying to offer alternatives.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
> paying for Data all the time.
> 
> MG
> 
> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kaleb,
>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or barn 
>> that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Javelina? Is that the lance thrown by female track and field athletes?

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 4:50 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Don’t need the camera to see all the local wildlife, as it just wanders by
> without any concern for my presence.
>
> Javelina, elk, deer, etc. The local deer population uses our backyard as a
> day care center for some reason. The does come by with their fawns, leave
> them in the back yard, and go off to forage. I’ll come out the door and
> there will be a fawn that’s a couple months old in our seating area in the
> courtyard. They just look at me like “Hey, what’s going on?” I leave them
> alone and they don’t seem to be skittish about us walking by them.
>
> Only thing I’ve seen on camera but don’t care to come into contact with is
> Skunky. He comes by every night in front of the garage about 2:00 - 3:00
> am. There’s a fox that comes by occasionally, too. AZ Fish and Wildlife has
> sent out emails to people on our street (us included) about mountain lions,
> but I haven’t seen one. Tey generally don’t walk out in the open where the
> cameras would see them.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 6, 2022, at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Coyotes, racoons, coywolves, foxes, and perps.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:41 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little
> >> “dome” that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would
> >> probably prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large
> of
> >> an area. I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the
> >> driveway of the FL home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the
> >> house and garage in AZ. Both work just fine, but have their
> limitations. A
> >> lot depends on what you’re trying to spot with the camera…
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
> >> entire back yard.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via
> >> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
> >> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
> >> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
> >> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
> small.
> >> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
> >> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
> >>
> >> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  >> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
> >> keep paying for Data all the time.
> >>>
> >>> MG
> >>>
> >>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>  Kaleb,
>  Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
> or
> >> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
> too!
>  https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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Don’t need the camera to see all the local wildlife, as it just wanders by 
without any concern for my presence.

Javelina, elk, deer, etc. The local deer population uses our backyard as a day 
care center for some reason. The does come by with their fawns, leave them in 
the back yard, and go off to forage. I’ll come out the door and there will be a 
fawn that’s a couple months old in our seating area in the courtyard. They just 
look at me like “Hey, what’s going on?” I leave them alone and they don’t seem 
to be skittish about us walking by them.

Only thing I’ve seen on camera but don’t care to come into contact with is 
Skunky. He comes by every night in front of the garage about 2:00 - 3:00 am. 
There’s a fox that comes by occasionally, too. AZ Fish and Wildlife has sent 
out emails to people on our street (us included) about mountain lions, but I 
haven’t seen one. Tey generally don’t walk out in the open where the cameras 
would see them.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Coyotes, racoons, coywolves, foxes, and perps.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:41 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little
>> “dome” that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would
>> probably prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large of
>> an area. I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the
>> driveway of the FL home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the
>> house and garage in AZ. Both work just fine, but have their limitations. A
>> lot depends on what you’re trying to spot with the camera…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote:
>> 
>> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
>> entire back yard.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
>> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
>> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
>> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively small.
>> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
>> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>> 
>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
>> keep paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Kaleb,
 Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or
>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
 https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Coyotes, racoons, coywolves, foxes, and perps.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:41 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little
> “dome” that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would
> probably prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large of
> an area. I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the
> driveway of the FL home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the
> house and garage in AZ. Both work just fine, but have their limitations. A
> lot depends on what you’re trying to spot with the camera…
>
> -D
>
> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
>
> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
> entire back yard.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively small.
> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  > wrote:
> >
> > Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
> keep paying for Data all the time.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Kaleb,
> >> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or
> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
> >> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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On 2022-10-06 16:00, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I want one with a laser targeting system  I could hook up to a
remote-controlled fully auto high-powered paint gun.

Deterrence.




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I’ve seen motion detectors tied to sprinklers to keep vermin out of your yard. 
That’s pretty much a “scorched Earth" approach.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want one with a laser targeting system  I could hook up to a 
> remote-controlled fully auto high-powered paint gun. 
> 
> Deterrence. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 2:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little 
>> “dome” that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would 
>> probably prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large of an 
>> area. I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the driveway of 
>> the FL home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the house and garage 
>> in AZ. Both work just fine, but have their limitations. A lot depends on 
>> what you’re trying to spot with the camera…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the entire 
>> back yard.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
>> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
>> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
>> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data 
>> on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on 
>> ones that see activity all day long.
>> 
>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to 
 keep paying for Data all the time.
 
 MG
 
 dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Kaleb,
 Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
 barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
 https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
 -D
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I want one with a laser targeting system  I could hook up to a 
remote-controlled fully auto high-powered paint gun. 

Deterrence. 

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> On Oct 6, 2022, at 2:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little “dome” 
> that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would probably 
> prevent you from finding a camera that could cover that large of an area. 
> I’ve done it both ways, with two camera overlapping on the driveway of the FL 
> home, and a PTZ camera for the courtyard between the house and garage in AZ. 
> Both work just fine, but have their limitations. A lot depends on what you’re 
> trying to spot with the camera…
> 
> -D
> 
> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the entire 
> back yard.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, 
> and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records 
> events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly 
> the amount of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on 
> my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones 
> that see activity all day long.
> 
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
>>> paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or 
>>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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It’s been in service for over a year now, and I’ve done nothing to it. Through 
the management interface I can “scan” and see everything it does, as well as 
define where it’s going to detect motion (or not.) Because it has an almost 360 
degree view and it’s mounted on a wall about 16’ above grade, it can “see” the 
road in front of the house. I’ve marked out that area for it to ignore so cars 
driving by don’t trigger it.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you find a need to clean the motion sensor?
> 
> I have LED floodlights with motion sensors outside the garage, and they have 
> developed the same problem that caused me to replace their incandescent 
> predecessors: I have to walk up in front of them, jump up and down and wave 
> my arms to get them to switch on. They worked fine when new.
> 
> I'm wondering if there's a way to clean them somehow? Or is it another issue?
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:51, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> The one I have on the courtyard is this one, integrated with LED floodlights:
>> 
>> https://us.eufy.com/products/t8423?ref=navimenu_4_img&variant=39973939740858
>> 
>> Works great! I chose it mainly because I wanted to be able to have 
>> on-demand lighting whenever someone comes out of the house or garage at 
>> night.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah ideally you'd want a wide-angle motion sensor and then a camera that 
>>> could automatically track and zoom on the moving object. Those are probably 
>>> expensive though.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:18, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 If the angle is that large (at least for my backyard), anything smaller
 than a deer won't be seen past 10 feet.
 
 On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
> entire back yard.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
>> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
>> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
>> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
> small.
>> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
>> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>> 
>> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
>> keep paying for Data all the time.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Kaleb,
 Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
> or
>> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
> too!
 https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Do you find a need to clean the motion sensor?

I have LED floodlights with motion sensors outside the garage, and they have 
developed the same problem that caused me to replace their incandescent 
predecessors: I have to walk up in front of them, jump up and down and wave my 
arms to get them to switch on. They worked fine when new.

I'm wondering if there's a way to clean them somehow? Or is it another issue?

Allan

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:51, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> The one I have on the courtyard is this one, integrated with LED floodlights:
>
> https://us.eufy.com/products/t8423?ref=navimenu_4_img&variant=39973939740858
>
> Works great! I chose it mainly because I wanted to be able to have 
> on-demand lighting whenever someone comes out of the house or garage at 
> night.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah ideally you'd want a wide-angle motion sensor and then a camera that 
>> could automatically track and zoom on the moving object. Those are probably 
>> expensive though.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:18, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> If the angle is that large (at least for my backyard), anything smaller
>>> than a deer won't be seen past 10 feet.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
 entire back yard.
 
 On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
 small.
> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
> 
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
> keep paying for Data all the time.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
 or
> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
 too!
>>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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The one I have on the courtyard is this one, integrated with LED floodlights:

https://us.eufy.com/products/t8423?ref=navimenu_4_img&variant=39973939740858

Works great! I chose it mainly because I wanted to be able to have on-demand 
lighting whenever someone comes out of the house or garage at night.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah ideally you'd want a wide-angle motion sensor and then a camera that 
> could automatically track and zoom on the moving object. Those are probably 
> expensive though.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:18, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> If the angle is that large (at least for my backyard), anything smaller
>> than a deer won't be seen past 10 feet.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
>>> entire back yard.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
 outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
 nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
 video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
>>> small.
 I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
 
 Just trying to offer alternatives.
 
 -D
 
> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> 
> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
 keep paying for Data all the time.
> 
> MG
> 
> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kaleb,
>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
>>> or
 barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
>>> too!
>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>> -D
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>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah ideally you'd want a wide-angle motion sensor and then a camera that could 
automatically track and zoom on the moving object. Those are probably expensive 
though.

Allan

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 14:18, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> If the angle is that large (at least for my backyard), anything smaller
> than a deer won't be seen past 10 feet.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
>> entire back yard.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
>> > outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
>> > nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
>> > video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
>> small.
>> > I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
>> > 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>> >
>> > Just trying to offer alternatives.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> > > On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
>> > keep paying for Data all the time.
>> > >
>> > > MG
>> > >
>> > > dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> > >> Kaleb,
>> > >> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
>> or
>> > barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
>> too!
>> > >> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
>> > >> -D
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If the angle is that large (at least for my backyard), anything smaller
than a deer won't be seen past 10 feet.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
> entire back yard.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
> > outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
> > nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
> > video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively
> small.
> > I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
> > 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
> >
> > Just trying to offer alternatives.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
> > keep paying for Data all the time.
> > >
> > > MG
> > >
> > > dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Kaleb,
> > >> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop
> or
> > barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon,
> too!
> > >> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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You need a PTZ camera with motion detection. That’s one in the little “dome” 
that rotates. There are limitations wit the optics that would probably prevent 
you from finding a camera that could cover that large of an area. I’ve done it 
both ways, with two camera overlapping on the driveway of the FL home, and a 
PTZ camera for the courtyard between the house and garage in AZ. Both work just 
fine, but have their limitations. A lot depends on what you’re trying to spot 
with the camera…

-D

On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the entire 
back yard.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, and 
if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records events 
and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly the amount 
of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on my wifi 
connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see 
activity all day long.

Just trying to offer alternatives.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
> paying for Data all the time.
>
> MG
>
> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kaleb,
>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or barn 
>> that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

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That's right . I forgot about that.

MG

dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, and 
if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records events 
and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly the amount 
of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on my wifi 
connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see 
activity all day long.

Just trying to offer alternatives.

-D


On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
paying for Data all the time.

MG

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Kaleb,
Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or barn 
that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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I want one triggered by motion that is wide angle enough to cover the
entire back yard.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his
> outbuildings, and if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got
> nothing. It records events and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming
> video from it constantly the amount of data used would be relatively small.
> I just checked the data on my wifi connected cameras and it’s less than
> 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see activity all day long.
>
> Just trying to offer alternatives.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to
> keep paying for Data all the time.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Kaleb,
> >> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or
> barn that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
> >> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Understood. However, he’s concerned about the security of his outbuildings, and 
if he’s reliant on wifi and power goes out, he’s got nothing. It records events 
and sends alerts. Unless you were streaming video from it constantly the amount 
of data used would be relatively small. I just checked the data on my wifi 
connected cameras and it’s less than 500Mb/month, and that’s on ones that see 
activity all day long.

Just trying to offer alternatives.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:18 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have wifi so you have to keep 
> paying for Data all the time.
> 
> MG
> 
> dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kaleb,
>> Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or barn 
>> that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!
>> https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm
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Re: [MBZ] Security Camera for Kleb

[MG via Mercedes]

Don't know if I would go for that. It doesn't have 
wifi so you have to keep paying for Data all the time.


MG

dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb,

Here’s one of the security cameras I was talking about for your shop or barn 
that uses 4G and solar for power. On sale with a $30 off coupon, too!

https://tinyurl.com/vw49s2sm

-D
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