Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My tech charges around that and he is dealer trained.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:26 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 19:05:09 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Pierre is welcome to do the work.
> >
> > And, unfortunately, he wants to be paid.
>
> $85 an hour?
> That was 1995 prices at the domestic dealers around here.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 19:05:09 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Pierre is welcome to do the work.
> 
> And, unfortunately, he wants to be paid.

$85 an hour?
That was 1995 prices at the domestic dealers around here. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes


>> Pierre is welcome to do the work.

>And, unfortunately, he wants to be paid.

His rates actually aren't too bad.
Living in the large metropolitan area of Shitcago, indie rates can be over $100 
an hour, AND, they really don't know older Mercedes. 

http://www.pierrehedaryandco.com/rates/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Pierre is welcome to do the work.  He DOES expect to be paid.  I won't 
be paying him.   Pierre can come and get the car, and have at it.


tyee165 via Mercedes wrote on 1/9/19 7:45 PM:

Haul. It to Florida and get out your chequebook.
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Haul. It to Florida and get out your chequebook.
RB


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 Date: 2019-01-09  7:05 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Randy 
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<126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim 
Pierre is welcome to do the work.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/9/19 11:27 AM:
> Oh, come on now. You need to watch Pierre on Youtube and get psyched 
> up for a head gasket change.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 19:05:09 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Pierre is welcome to do the work.

And, unfortunately, he wants to be paid.


> Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/9/19 11:27 AM:
> > Oh, come on now. You need to watch Pierre on Youtube and get psyched 
> > up for a head gasket change.

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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Pierre is welcome to do the work.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/9/19 11:27 AM:
Oh, come on now. You need to watch Pierre on Youtube and get psyched 
up for a head gasket change.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Oh, come on now. You need to watch Pierre on Youtube and get psyched up 
for a head gasket change.


RB

On 08/01/2019 8:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
No, It is down for the count, unless JBweld seals the leak.    THe 
cracked frame does not bother.  It is a sturdy car to begin with. It 
is the headgasket that became the straw/camel.



If Larry gave me his 300D 2.5, I'd fix that one.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/8/19 3:08 PM:
Well, it sounds like you had better practise your welding if you 
intend to keep driving it. It need not be pretty but you need to make 
it safe if you intend to keep riding around in it.
Or else, you need to find a better body and start swapping the drive 
train.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No, It is down for the count, unless JBweld seals the leak.    THe 
cracked frame does not bother.  It is a sturdy car to begin with.  It is 
the headgasket that became the straw/camel.



If Larry gave me his 300D 2.5, I'd fix that one.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/8/19 3:08 PM:
Well, it sounds like you had better practise your welding if you 
intend to keep driving it. It need not be pretty but you need to make 
it safe if you intend to keep riding around in it.
Or else, you need to find a better body and start swapping the drive 
train.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Neither of us knew it. It is fine.  Never caused a problem.

Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote on 1/8/19 1:52 PM:

Curley wrote:

The frame was broken when mao drove it out in 2012.

Did mao know that prior to the drive?
How does broken frame perform?
...interesting... 7-years later
tin.man





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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, it sounds like you had better practise your welding if you intend 
to keep driving it. It need not be pretty but you need to make it safe 
if you intend to keep riding around in it.

Or else, you need to find a better body and start swapping the drive train.

RB

On 07/01/2019 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
The frame was broken when mao drove it out in 2012.  It is not the 
worst rusty MB i have bought, that prize goes to the 76 300D with 
flapping fenders.  Kleb said it was the worst rusted 126 he has ever 
seen.   It has many places rusted through 2 layers.  It was beat up 
when I got it.   It was a $600 car.  I intended to scrap it for the 
engine/trans when Mao got it to  me, but it runs so well, I kept 
running it.   For 7 years!   The drivetrain is good, other than 
needing a headgasket.  The engine is definitely worth a headgasket, 
but the body is not.   Putting a headgasket  on an OM603 in the car is 
not for the fainthearted.  Out of the car, it would not be bad.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/7/19 2:10 PM:

On 06/01/2019 8:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.  Yesterday 
there was a puddle in front of it. I saw a wet stream down the RF of 
the block from the head gasket.    Sad.   Should I try buffing it 
and JBWeld?


How good or bad is the drive train? If it is reasonably good, then it 
would probably be worth changing the head gasket. Do it yourself and 
all you have in it is some time and gaskets.


Even if the body is rusty, a good drive train can always be 
transplanted. I know it gets tougher as we get older but it need not 
be done in a day.


I have never done an MB diesel but a number of years back I did a V6 
Taurus and it was not a bad job. Cost was a gasket set and a set of 
head bolts. A couple of shops quoted me about $800 and I think I did 
it for under $200. Car was not worth a lot and we sold it after I 
fixed it. I think I got about $1500 if memory serves to be correct so 
I got something for my time.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-08 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Check this out, he fixed it for $500 with some welding.  Bought the car 
from Co-part for like $32k, got it fixed, would be a $70k car, very few 
miles.  Insco totaled it because of the damage (which might be due to a 
design defect).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOlvG1QbCDU

--FT


On 1/8/19 2:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Curley wrote:

The frame was broken when mao drove it out in 2012.

Did mao know that prior to the drive?
How does broken frame perform?
...interesting... 7-years later
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote:
> The frame was broken when mao drove it out in 2012.

Did mao know that prior to the drive?
How does broken frame perform?
...interesting... 7-years later
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The frame was broken when mao drove it out in 2012.  It is not the worst 
rusty MB i have bought, that prize goes to the 76 300D with flapping 
fenders.  Kleb said it was the worst rusted 126 he has ever seen.   It 
has many places rusted through 2 layers.  It was beat up when I got 
it.   It was a $600 car.  I intended to scrap it for the engine/trans 
when Mao got it to  me, but it runs so well, I kept running it.   For 7 
years!   The drivetrain is good, other than needing a headgasket.  The 
engine is definitely worth a headgasket, but the body is not.   Putting 
a headgasket  on an OM603 in the car is not for the fainthearted.  Out 
of the car, it would not be bad.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 1/7/19 2:10 PM:

On 06/01/2019 8:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.  Yesterday 
there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream down the RF of 
the block from the head gasket.    Sad.   Should I try buffing it and 
JBWeld?


How good or bad is the drive train? If it is reasonably good, then it 
would probably be worth changing the head gasket. Do it yourself and 
all you have in it is some time and gaskets.


Even if the body is rusty, a good drive train can always be 
transplanted. I know it gets tougher as we get older but it need not 
be done in a day.


I have never done an MB diesel but a number of years back I did a V6 
Taurus and it was not a bad job. Cost was a gasket set and a set of 
head bolts. A couple of shops quoted me about $800 and I think I did 
it for under $200. Car was not worth a lot and we sold it after I 
fixed it. I think I got about $1500 if memory serves to be correct so 
I got something for my time.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 06/01/2019 8:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.  Yesterday 
there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream down the RF of 
the block from the head gasket.    Sad.   Should I try buffing it and 
JBWeld?


How good or bad is the drive train? If it is reasonably good, then it 
would probably be worth changing the head gasket. Do it yourself and all 
you have in it is some time and gaskets.


Even if the body is rusty, a good drive train can always be 
transplanted. I know it gets tougher as we get older but it need not be 
done in a day.


I have never done an MB diesel but a number of years back I did a V6 
Taurus and it was not a bad job. Cost was a gasket set and a set of head 
bolts. A couple of shops quoted me about $800 and I think I did it for 
under $200. Car was not worth a lot and we sold it after I fixed it. I 
think I got about $1500 if memory serves to be correct so I got 
something for my time.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

He's coordinating the resistance against RMueller

--FT

On 1/7/19 12:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

At least he's consistent in his obfuscation.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think it is a secure undisclosed location, from which he maintains
contact with his agents and control over his vast domain.
-
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
At least he's consistent in his obfuscation.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think it is a secure undisclosed location, from which he maintains
> contact with his agents and control over his vast domain.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:47 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Where is "here"?
> >
> >
> > *Are you in eye oh wah, North of The Cheddar Curtain, Lou easy Anna, or
> > where now?  Rick*
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:34 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking drain the fluid,  brush the joint between the head and
> > > block clean where I see it bleedin, slather on the JBweld, wait a day
> or
> > > 3, refill radiator, and give it a try.
> > >
> > > The only vergasser I would consider is an e320 or similar.  I know a
> > > 300E M103 will have a head gasket leak soon, if it does not already
> > > leak.  (Unless there is a documented head gasket replacement within a
> > > few years.)  I'm looking for a $500 to $1500 heap.   That $600 SDL in
> > > Chit cago would be a candidate if it was not so far away.
> > >
> > > I'm also considering a 2009+ dogde GC with 150 to 175k as a replacement
> > > for the current one, and relegating the current one to work detail.
> > > Hauling junk around seems to be part of the plan for the next few
> > > yars.   I can get one for about 3500.
> > >
> > > Around here, people seem to want $1500 for non-running heaps of any
> > > flavor. (not MB)  So it looks like some travel will be involved, but I
> > > am gonna check with one local place.
> > >
> > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 1/6/19 10:59 PM:
> > > >> Curley wrote:
> > > >> Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.
> > > >> Yesterday there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream
> > > >> down the RF of the block from the head gasket.Sad.   Should
> > > >> I try buffing it and JBWeld?
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think it is a secure undisclosed location, from which he maintains
contact with his agents and control over his vast domain.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:47 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Where is "here"?
>
>
> *Are you in eye oh wah, North of The Cheddar Curtain, Lou easy Anna, or
> where now?  Rick*
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:34 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking drain the fluid,  brush the joint between the head and
> > block clean where I see it bleedin, slather on the JBweld, wait a day or
> > 3, refill radiator, and give it a try.
> >
> > The only vergasser I would consider is an e320 or similar.  I know a
> > 300E M103 will have a head gasket leak soon, if it does not already
> > leak.  (Unless there is a documented head gasket replacement within a
> > few years.)  I'm looking for a $500 to $1500 heap.   That $600 SDL in
> > Chit cago would be a candidate if it was not so far away.
> >
> > I'm also considering a 2009+ dogde GC with 150 to 175k as a replacement
> > for the current one, and relegating the current one to work detail.
> > Hauling junk around seems to be part of the plan for the next few
> > yars.   I can get one for about 3500.
> >
> > Around here, people seem to want $1500 for non-running heaps of any
> > flavor. (not MB)  So it looks like some travel will be involved, but I
> > am gonna check with one local place.
> >
> > fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 1/6/19 10:59 PM:
> > >> Curley wrote:
> > >> Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.
> > >> Yesterday there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream
> > >> down the RF of the block from the head gasket.Sad.   Should
> > >> I try buffing it and JBWeld?
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where is "here"?


*Are you in eye oh wah, North of The Cheddar Curtain, Lou easy Anna, or
where now?  Rick*

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:34 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking drain the fluid,  brush the joint between the head and
> block clean where I see it bleedin, slather on the JBweld, wait a day or
> 3, refill radiator, and give it a try.
>
> The only vergasser I would consider is an e320 or similar.  I know a
> 300E M103 will have a head gasket leak soon, if it does not already
> leak.  (Unless there is a documented head gasket replacement within a
> few years.)  I'm looking for a $500 to $1500 heap.   That $600 SDL in
> Chit cago would be a candidate if it was not so far away.
>
> I'm also considering a 2009+ dogde GC with 150 to 175k as a replacement
> for the current one, and relegating the current one to work detail.
> Hauling junk around seems to be part of the plan for the next few
> yars.   I can get one for about 3500.
>
> Around here, people seem to want $1500 for non-running heaps of any
> flavor. (not MB)  So it looks like some travel will be involved, but I
> am gonna check with one local place.
>
> fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 1/6/19 10:59 PM:
> >> Curley wrote:
> >> Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.
> >> Yesterday there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream
> >> down the RF of the block from the head gasket.Sad.   Should
> >> I try buffing it and JBWeld?
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'm thinking drain the fluid,  brush the joint between the head and 
block clean where I see it bleedin, slather on the JBweld, wait a day or 
3, refill radiator, and give it a try.


The only vergasser I would consider is an e320 or similar.  I know a 
300E M103 will have a head gasket leak soon, if it does not already 
leak.  (Unless there is a documented head gasket replacement within a 
few years.)  I'm looking for a $500 to $1500 heap.   That $600 SDL in 
Chit cago would be a candidate if it was not so far away.


I'm also considering a 2009+ dogde GC with 150 to 175k as a replacement 
for the current one, and relegating the current one to work detail. 
Hauling junk around seems to be part of the plan for the next few 
yars.   I can get one for about 3500.


Around here, people seem to want $1500 for non-running heaps of any 
flavor. (not MB)  So it looks like some travel will be involved, but I 
am gonna check with one local place.


fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 1/6/19 10:59 PM:

Curley wrote:
Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.
Yesterday there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream
down the RF of the block from the head gasket.    Sad.   Should
I try buffing it and JBWeld?





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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-06 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curley wrote:

> Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL.
> Yesterday there was a puddle in front of it.  I saw a wet stream
> down the RF of the block from the head gasket.    Sad.   Should
> I try buffing it and JBWeld?

:(  Are you thinking "pull the head, grind out the leak, fill with
JBWeld" or "clean up the outside and pile on the JBWeld and hope
for the best"

If it truly is just a coolant leak at the head gasket I would
expect JBWeld to do fine.  It doesn't do so well above 500F - but
the water jacket will never get that hot.

Pile up the JBWeld on the outside seems to me to have a slim
chance - but it's also not much work.  Pulling the head is a lot
more effort, provide a better chance of success - but if it fails
you have a lot more invested...

> I have perused CL and not much interesting.  Dan and Floyd seem
> to have the $500 to $1500 Diesel market cornered, except for the
> one Craig snagged.   Nothing in the plain jane E320 lines either.

How 'bout a '77 6.9 for $500?   I'm a couple hours away.
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/dittmer-1977-mercedes-450sel-69/6788258292.html

Or a $1100 '88 300se?About 3 hours away.
https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/shell-knob-project-mercedes-benz-300-se/6783731249.html


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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I posted that $700 E the other day that probably just needed a conductor plate 
or connector or something. 722.6 is $350 at the junkyard here so worse is to do 
a transplant and get a runner. Or buy that decent looking rear-ended S320 and 
tape up the trunk and just drive it. 

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> Curley (don't call me Shirley) McClean sez:
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>> Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL
> 
> Are you in eye oh wah, North of The Cheddar Curtain, Lou easy Anna, or where 
> now?  
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] She's Bleedin', Jim

2019-01-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 
Curley (don't call me Shirley) McClean sez:

>Well, it may be the end of the road for the rusty SDL

Are you in eye oh wah, North of The Cheddar Curtain, Lou easy Anna, or where 
now?  
Rick
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