Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I found some Gameboy games under the back seat of my '85 190D. That one also 
had about 3 packs of Virginia Slims stashed throughout the car. I think the 
owner didn't want her husband to know she smoked.
-Curt

On Saturday, December 7, 2019, 8:32:25 PM EST, clay via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Back in the day at the indy PnP, the crew would only drain fluids and set the 
car.  When I was in the throes of the addiction, I got to the yards at the 
crack of the front door and a few other crack heads like me would wait for the 
cars to be placed.  Best I found were some 9mm and other rounds.  One fellow 
got into a car and came back with a 1911.  Not a car part, so the yard was not 
interested in charging for it.  

Then the yard was sold to greedy major steel corporation out west and they 
would scrounge as much out of it prior to placing the car so they had items for 
sale inside.  They also nickel and dime you on parts of parts, (ie) full break 
down of an axle, where used to be you purchased the thing as a whole instead of 
accounting for all that went into it

clay


> On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don’t forget to look in my favorite spot, under the back seat bottom cushion. 
> I’m still hoping to find a bundle of cash under one some day…usually it’s 
> Starlite mints or the occasional Cheeto or Goldfish cracker…
> 
> -D
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I spent it at the farmstand this afternoon. Charge came to $10.16. I had a $10 
bill and dug in my pocket for these corroded coins. Fortuitous. Serendipitous. 

--R
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> On Dec 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, look at it this way:
> 
> You’re $0.16 to the good so far.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked it up, it's an S430 with AMG package, Someone musta put the S55 
>> badge on the trunk.  Fuckers.  The engine is a 430.  I think the fenders 
>> have to be rolled to fit those wheels/tires. The thing doesn't look too bad 
>> actually.
>> 
>> WDBNG70J0YA090130
>> 
>> 772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
>> 774 SHELL MODIFICATION FOR AMG-WHEELS
>> 792 AMG-WHEELS 8X18 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 31 235/40 (S210)
>> 
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 12/6/19 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Gimme the VIN and I’ll look it up.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yes.  No.
 
 --FT
 
> On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> Have you been under the hood?
> Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?
> 
>> On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[clay via Mercedes]

Back in the day at the indy PnP, the crew would only drain fluids and set the 
car.  When I was in the throes of the addiction, I got to the yards at the 
crack of the front door and a few other crack heads like me would wait for the 
cars to be placed.  Best I found were some 9mm and other rounds.  One fellow 
got into a car and came back with a 1911.  Not a car part, so the yard was not 
interested in charging for it.  

Then the yard was sold to greedy major steel corporation out west and they 
would scrounge as much out of it prior to placing the car so they had items for 
sale inside.  They also nickel and dime you on parts of parts, (ie) full break 
down of an axle, where used to be you purchased the thing as a whole instead of 
accounting for all that went into it

clay


> On Dec 7, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don’t forget to look in my favorite spot, under the back seat bottom cushion. 
> I’m still hoping to find a bundle of cash under one some day…usually it’s 
> Starlite mints or the occasional Cheeto or Goldfish cracker…
> 
> -D
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Well, look at it this way:

You’re $0.16 to the good so far.

-D


> On Dec 6, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I looked it up, it's an S430 with AMG package, Someone musta put the S55 
> badge on the trunk.  Fuckers.  The engine is a 430.  I think the fenders have 
> to be rolled to fit those wheels/tires. The thing doesn't look too bad 
> actually.
> 
> WDBNG70J0YA090130
> 
> 772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
> 774 SHELL MODIFICATION FOR AMG-WHEELS
> 792 AMG-WHEELS 8X18 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 31 235/40 (S210)
> 
> 
> --R
> 
> On 12/6/19 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Gimme the VIN and I’ll look it up.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes.  No.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
 Have you been under the hood?
 Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?
 
> On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I looked it up, it's an S430 with AMG package, Someone musta put the S55 
badge on the trunk.  Fuckers.  The engine is a 430.  I think the fenders 
have to be rolled to fit those wheels/tires. The thing doesn't look too 
bad actually.


WDBNG70J0YA090130

772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
774 SHELL MODIFICATION FOR AMG-WHEELS
792 AMG-WHEELS 8X18 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 31 235/40 (S210)


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On 12/6/19 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Gimme the VIN and I’ll look it up.

-D



On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yes.  No.

--FT

On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Have you been under the hood?
Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?


On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The seat bottom was loose, looks like there is a bunch of relays and 
fuses and whatnot under there.  Nothing of interest though I think I 
found 16cents.


--FT

On 12/7/19 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Don’t forget to look in my favorite spot, under the back seat bottom cushion. 
I’m still hoping to find a bundle of cash under one some day…usually it’s 
Starlite mints or the occasional Cheeto or Goldfish cracker…

-D





On Dec 7, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It's been warm so no odor so far.  I'm going to try to get the trunk open, 
looks like I can take off the cover on the back of the lid and then grab the 
latch release thing and open it that way.

--FT

On 12/7/19 10:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Dead hooker?

-D


On Dec 7, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I did find a pretty nice little ceramic dope pipe in the glove box, but so far 
no coke or scraps of paper, but I have not opened the trunk yet

--FT

On 12/3/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.

Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the rear 
seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, a bag of high 
grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card from a prominent 
US Senator.  Pass the popcorn

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don’t forget to look in my favorite spot, under the back seat bottom cushion. 
I’m still hoping to find a bundle of cash under one some day…usually it’s 
Starlite mints or the occasional Cheeto or Goldfish cracker…

-D




> On Dec 7, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's been warm so no odor so far.  I'm going to try to get the trunk open, 
> looks like I can take off the cover on the back of the lid and then grab the 
> latch release thing and open it that way.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/7/19 10:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dead hooker?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find a pretty nice little ceramic dope pipe in the glove box, but so 
>>> far no coke or scraps of paper, but I have not opened the trunk yet
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 12/3/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.
 
 Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the 
 rear seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, a 
 bag of high grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card 
 from a prominent US Senator.  Pass the popcorn
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's been warm so no odor so far.  I'm going to try to get the trunk 
open, looks like I can take off the cover on the back of the lid and 
then grab the latch release thing and open it that way.


--FT

On 12/7/19 10:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Dead hooker?

-D


On Dec 7, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I did find a pretty nice little ceramic dope pipe in the glove box, but so far 
no coke or scraps of paper, but I have not opened the trunk yet

--FT

On 12/3/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.

Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the rear 
seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, a bag of high 
grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card from a prominent 
US Senator.  Pass the popcorn

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dead hooker?

-D

> On Dec 7, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did find a pretty nice little ceramic dope pipe in the glove box, but so 
> far no coke or scraps of paper, but I have not opened the trunk yet
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/3/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.
>> 
>> Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the rear 
>> seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, a bag of 
>> high grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card from a 
>> prominent US Senator.  Pass the popcorn
> 
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I did find a pretty nice little ceramic dope pipe in the glove box, but 
so far no coke or scraps of paper, but I have not opened the trunk yet


--FT

On 12/3/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.

Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the 
rear seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, 
a bag of high grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business 
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

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Gimme the VIN and I’ll look it up.

-D


> On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  No.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> Have you been under the hood?
>> Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?
>> 
>>> On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

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> On December 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I think a real AMG engine also has a metal plate with the signature of the 
> factory tech that built it.

I have to admit I saw the AMG wheels (pics showed they were chromed and ratty 
but I didn't look at them that closely) and S55 badge and got all excited 
instead of cautious. Fortunately I was being excited from a safe 800 mile 
distance.

Mitch.

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I think a real AMG engine also has a metal plate with the signature of the 
factory tech that built it.

Max Dillon
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Dec 6, 2019 3:07:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
 
> Yes. No.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Have you been under the hood?
>> Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?
>> 
>> 
>>> On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah probably. Poseur. I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

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Yes.  No.

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On 12/6/19 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Have you been under the hood?
Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?


On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

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Have you been under the hood?
Does it have the plastic AMG engine cover?

> On December 6, 2019 at 2:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

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Yeah probably.  Poseur.  I gotta pop the trunk and see what's in there.  
At this point I could probably sell some decent bits and make back a 
fair amount then dismantle it and keep the engine and transmission and 
whatever else.


--FT

On 12/6/19 2:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

So it was an "AMG look" 430 that somebody stuck a S55 badge on to complete the 
image?
I might have done that myself if I were in the market for a new W220 15 years 
ago.

I never put it on, but I did but a SS badge for a Camaro SS to replace the LT 
badge on my red Cruze.
Also bought a Camaro RS rear badge for my Cruze RS, which only came with a 
grille badge for the RS package.

I guess checking the emissions sticker and running the VIN through
mb-teilekatalog are necessary prepurchase steps. How hard is it to unchrome and 
paint the wheels?
Sandblasting would probably chew through the base metal faster than the chrome.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So it was an "AMG look" 430 that somebody stuck a S55 badge on to complete the 
image?
I might have done that myself if I were in the market for a new W220 15 years 
ago. 

I never put it on, but I did but a SS badge for a Camaro SS to replace the LT 
badge on my red Cruze.
Also bought a Camaro RS rear badge for my Cruze RS, which only came with a 
grille badge for the RS package.

I guess checking the emissions sticker and running the VIN through
mb-teilekatalog are necessary prepurchase steps. How hard is it to unchrome and 
paint the wheels?
Sandblasting would probably chew through the base metal faster than the chrome.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Haha yeah.  So I went and picked this thing up.  $450.  Loading it was a 
real experience with flat tires and blown struts and the front tires 
turned a bit, it has about 2" of ground clearance, but Billy (the 
seller, a really nice guy) helped me.  The front struts are blown, had a 
lot of epoxy gooped around the tops and one air line was disconnected.   
Rears are collapsed too. There was another used strut under the car and 
some random exhaust bits and some other stuff, the dumbass PO was 
apparently working on it. "Ran when parked."  Billy said he was roaring 
around in it when he started working on it then for some reason took off 
to MN and got thrown in jail for some extended stay.  The engine bay is 
pretty clean, interior is pretty nice, body is straight but there are a 
few small rust bubbles here and there.  Front bumper fascia is off but 
in the car, looks like there was some sort of parking lot bumper 
altercation or something, maybe when the front collapsed. One wheel was 
the spare, two tires were flat, the AMG wheels are chromed and that is 
all corroded but they appear to be correct wheels so I guess they are 
worth something.  Couldn't get the trunk open, no key, battery dead.  
The DPO's ex wife told Billy (who had it taking up space at the rent 
house the DPO took off from) there was a key in the car hidden 
somewhere, so I will dig around see if I can find it.  I found a 
youtuber vid to get the trunk open without a key or good battery so will 
try that.  No key, no title, "as is."  If nothing else an S55 set of 
bits are probably worth something or it could be an interesting project 
or donor for something interesting.  I suppose that engine would drop 
easily into a 210.


OH NO I HAS BEEN DECEIVED  It is a faux S55!  The VIN sticker on 
the trunk lid corresponds to a S430, perhaps sometime in the car's long 
and storied life someone rebadged it with S55 ebay badges.  Too funny.


But running the VIN does say it has AMG bits

772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
774 SHELL MODIFICATION FOR AMG-WHEELS
792 AMG-WHEELS 8X18 SQUEEZE-IN DEPTH 31 235/40 (S210)


The exhaust looks like AMG stuff though, who knows.  Kleb can you run 
the VIN, WDBNG70J0YA090130 see what history might pop up? I'll have to 
look at the other VINs see what they say, maybe this was a replacement 
trunk or something.


*Brand* MERCEDES-BENZ
*ManufacturerId*553
*Catalog*   MB201810
*Model* 220.170
*Name*  S 430
*ImageUrl*  
*Date*  16.11.1999
*Actual*
*Fin*   WDB2201701A090130
*Vin*   WDBNG70J0YA090130
*Market*North America
*Lights*BOSCH
*Description*   Sedan S Long United States
*VehicleClass*  Passanger
*Aggregates* 	M - engine: 113941 30 147605 113.941 M 113 E43 GASOLINE 
ENGINE GA - Automatic : 722632 01 857903 722.632 W 5 A 580 AT 5-SPEED





S430/L (W220) (M113.941)

*Capacity*
4265.59cc | 260.30c In  


*Cyl*
V8  


*Bore*
89.900mm | 3.5394" 


*Stroke*
84.000mm | 3.3071" 


*Fuel*
Petrol


Do you think I can get my money back?

OK so maybe I can build a 430 hot rod...

--FT


On 12/3/19 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed. Even if it was an E55.

-D



On Dec 3, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
wrote:

I would run screaming from any W220.  The one I had was all manner of trouble, 
and it was a 2002.  The teething issues on a 2000 would scare me.

Ask Don though

clay


On Dec 3, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So YOU could buy this S55...

--FT

On 12/3/19 11:45 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

In WA there is a process involving a registered letter that you send to the
last owner of record.  If it comes back (no forwarding address) the licensing
agent opens the envelope and takes out the State form, and the re-titling
proceeds from there.  That's what I did for the Frankenheap.  Cost me one
letter and some paperwork, and of course some time and money.  This is
for an abandoned car.

Talk to your State DOL.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2019 at 2:58 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

> 
> Would that be accepted if he is not a towing company? Does a towing 
> company require a specific licence?
> 

In farm country, it was accepted if somebody was trenching his cornfield and 
left their car behind.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. Even if it was an E55.

-D


> On Dec 3, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would run screaming from any W220.  The one I had was all manner of 
> trouble, and it was a 2002.  The teething issues on a 2000 would scare me.
> 
> Ask Don though
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So YOU could buy this S55...
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 12/3/19 11:45 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> In WA there is a process involving a registered letter that you send to the
>>> last owner of record.  If it comes back (no forwarding address) the 
>>> licensing
>>> agent opens the envelope and takes out the State form, and the re-titling
>>> proceeds from there.  That's what I did for the Frankenheap.  Cost me one
>>> letter and some paperwork, and of course some time and money.  This is
>>> for an abandoned car.
>>> 
>>> Talk to your State DOL.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I would run screaming from any W220.  The one I had was all manner of trouble, 
and it was a 2002.  The teething issues on a 2000 would scare me.

Ask Don though

clay

> On Dec 3, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So YOU could buy this S55...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/3/19 11:45 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> In WA there is a process involving a registered letter that you send to the
>> last owner of record.  If it comes back (no forwarding address) the licensing
>> agent opens the envelope and takes out the State form, and the re-titling
>> proceeds from there.  That's what I did for the Frankenheap.  Cost me one
>> letter and some paperwork, and of course some time and money.  This is
>> for an abandoned car.
>> 
>> Talk to your State DOL.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Careful what you wish for Andrew.  Some things what you wish for comes 
to pass.  The senator you referred to would beAmy Klobuchar (J) or Tina 
Smith (J).



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 2:35 PM
Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.

Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the 
rear

seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it. And of course, a bag of
high grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card from a
prominent US Senator. Pass the popcorn



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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

He would have to read the law, as I suggested earlier.   I have no idea 
what SC laws are, but in IA, the landowner can secure title for a 
vehicle abandoned on their property.   Otherwise it has to done through 
a tow company.


Tow companies require a license and bond in most places, again, I have 
no idea what the law is in SC, thus, Floyd needs to read the law.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 1:58 PM


Would that be accepted if he is not a towing company? Does a towing 
company require a specific licence?


Randy



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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds like the beginnings of a great screenplay.

Look out for blood residue in the trunk and a scrap of paper under the rear
seat with a Swiss bank account # scribbled on it.  And of course, a bag of
high grade coke in the locked glove box along with a business card from a
prominent US Senator.  Pass the popcorn

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> So the guy called me and said there was some guy wanted it but isn’t in
> town until the weekend. And some other guy wants the wheels (for $200 and
> another 16” set) which look to be worth some good money (18”, AMG maybe?).
> Also says the owner is back in MN for good, has his contact info. So I
> might go get it for “parts” and try to get hold of the “owner” to see if I
> could get a title otherwise it’s parts. No key but I think there is a way
> to get it in neutral. I guess for $450 the wheels are worth at least that.
> He says the car is pretty nice except the bumper got knocked off somehow.
> It’s in the car though.
>
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> > On 03/12/2019 12:33 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> On December 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But one might argue that you hid it.
> >> He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without
> paying for the tow, much like the towing companies putting them  in fenced
> enclosures.
> >>
> >> I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to
> keep an abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

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So the guy called me and said there was some guy wanted it but isn’t in town 
until the weekend. And some other guy wants the wheels (for $200 and another 
16” set) which look to be worth some good money (18”, AMG maybe?). Also says 
the owner is back in MN for good, has his contact info. So I might go get it 
for “parts” and try to get hold of the “owner” to see if I could get a title 
otherwise it’s parts. No key but I think there is a way to get it in neutral. I 
guess for $450 the wheels are worth at least that. He says the car is pretty 
nice except the bumper got knocked off somehow. It’s in the car though. 

--R
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> On 03/12/2019 12:33 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On December 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But one might argue that you hid it.
>> He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without paying 
>> for the tow, much like the towing companies putting them  in fenced 
>> enclosures.
>> 
>> I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to keep 
>> an abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

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On 03/12/2019 12:33 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On December 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

But one might argue that you hid it.

He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without paying for 
the tow, much like the towing companies putting them  in fenced enclosures.

I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to keep an 
abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The NADA value is nada.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:54 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> There is also the Vermont title option, but you'd have to pay 7% tax on
> whatever the state claims the NADA value of the car is in perfect
> condition.   For a 1980 240D worth $1000 or less, NADA says it  is worth
> over $5000.   I'm still trying to get a title for the 240D i've had for
> 15 years.
>
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > December 3, 2019 at 12:33 PM
> >
> >
> > He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without
> > paying for the tow, much like the towing companies putting them in
> > fenced enclosures.
> >
> > I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to
> > keep an abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.
> >
> > Mitch.
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There is also the Vermont title option, but you'd have to pay 7% tax on 
whatever the state claims the NADA value of the car is in perfect 
condition.   For a 1980 240D worth $1000 or less, NADA says it  is worth 
over $5000.   I'm still trying to get a title for the 240D i've had for 
15 years.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 12:33 PM


He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without 
paying for the tow, much like the towing companies putting them in 
fenced enclosures.


I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to 
keep an abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You  need a buddy who has a tow company.   In all your rabble rouser 
friends, none have a tow company?   None of them can  introduce you to a 
tow company?


Read the law.   In some cases the land owner can file paperwork to get a 
title for abandoned vehicle.   If it were abandoned at Fast Floyd's 
retirement home for abandoned Mercedes, the property of which is owned 
by someone else, could that landowner get a title, then "sell" it to you 
for $1?



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 10:13 AM
yeah well that is the issue

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

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> On December 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But one might argue that you hid it.

He secured it so that the owner couldn't regain possession without paying for 
the tow, much like the towing companies putting them  in fenced enclosures.

I keep forgetting if Rich is in NC or SC. It looks like you can opt to keep an 
abandoned vehicle in NC but have to turn it over to LE in SC.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well here it seems you basically have to go through a towing yard or a 
mechanic to do an auction which would run the price way up. The other 
approach would be to get the car, find another S with some problems, 
transplant the bits of the S55 into it, and have a franken55.  Lot of 
work, but an S55 for cheap would be a good donor to build a car.  Or put 
that engine in something else and have a hot rod.


--FT

On 12/3/19 12:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 03/12/2019 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Is it considered 'abandoned' if you put it on your property yourself?

Did you steal it?  (Rhetorical question.)  Moving it from your yard to
your barn is not theft, nor should change its abandoned status.

-- Jim


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On 03/12/2019 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Is it considered 'abandoned' if you put it on your property yourself?

Did you steal it?  (Rhetorical question.)  Moving it from your yard to
your barn is not theft, nor should change its abandoned status.

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> Is it considered 'abandoned' if you put it on your property yourself?

Did you steal it?  (Rhetorical question.)  Moving it from your yard to
your barn is not theft, nor should change its abandoned status.

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> On December 3, 2019 at 12:06 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So YOU could buy this S55...

Is it considered 'abandoned' if you put it on your property yourself?

It looks like there are two options in NC. 
After 7 days, have it towed and they get to keep it after a month.
Don't have it towed, and after 30 days you get to keep it. 
Sounds like Michigan except we can have it towed immediately if trespass or in 
3 days if we let them park it there.

https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/title-registration/special-cases/Pages/salvaged-abandoned-vehicles.aspx

There are several options available to an individual when a vehicle has been 
abandoned on their property.

Local law enforcement will verify that the vehicle is not stolen and place 
a seven-day warning sticker on the vehicle advising it will be towed if it is 
not removed.
After seven days, the property owner may contact a tow company to remove 
the vehicle.
If the vehicle remains on the property unclaimed for 30 days, it is 
considered abandoned and the property owner may begin the process to sell the 
vehicle. 

For additional information about abandoned motor vehicles, call the N.C. 
Division of Motor Vehicles' License & Theft Bureau at (919) 861-3141.

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Around here, you notify the state, they or you notify the last known owner, and 
after xx days they issue you an abandoned vehicle title, which is apparently a 
form of branded title not a clean title.

Decades ago, some idiots buried a Beetle in my neighbor's field.
He pulled it out of the mud and hauled it to the barn. 
Eventually, they came to the house and asked for their car. 
He told them what he wanted for towing and storage, they wouldn't pay. 
IIRC his fees were in line with what they'd pay if the cops called a tow truck, 
so high but not outrageous.
He got an abandoned title, cleaned it up and sold it.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So YOU could buy this S55...

--FT

On 12/3/19 11:45 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

In WA there is a process involving a registered letter that you send to the
last owner of record.  If it comes back (no forwarding address) the licensing
agent opens the envelope and takes out the State form, and the re-titling
proceeds from there.  That's what I did for the Frankenheap.  Cost me one
letter and some paperwork, and of course some time and money.  This is
for an abandoned car.

Talk to your State DOL.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

In WA there is a process involving a registered letter that you send to the
last owner of record.  If it comes back (no forwarding address) the licensing
agent opens the envelope and takes out the State form, and the re-titling
proceeds from there.  That's what I did for the Frankenheap.  Cost me one
letter and some paperwork, and of course some time and money.  This is
for an abandoned car.

Talk to your State DOL.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah well that is the issue

--FT

On 12/3/19 11:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
This is a no brainer IF you can get the title somehow, then go to the 
dealer for a new key.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I talked to this guy about this car when he wanted $500 for it.
Now at
$450.  He just wanted it gone.  Some dude basically abandoned it at a
rent house.  Looks like a nice car.  The dude was in jail in
Minnesota
or somewhere, got out and supposedly came back, has a wife or
something
around somewhere, but no one will deal with the car.  I looked
into how
to deal with an abandoned car, the property owner can get a tow
yard to
take it then put it up for auction and that will clean the title.
Sounds involved. But I am wondering if it would be worth it to
grab the
thing, offer the guy $300 and haul it off, then do something... 
No key...


https://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/d/summerville-2000-mercedes-benz-s55/7031193850.html

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Re: [MBZ] So this "abandoned" S55..

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is a no brainer IF you can get the title somehow, then go to the
dealer for a new key.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I talked to this guy about this car when he wanted $500 for it. Now at
> $450.  He just wanted it gone.  Some dude basically abandoned it at a
> rent house.  Looks like a nice car.  The dude was in jail in Minnesota
> or somewhere, got out and supposedly came back, has a wife or something
> around somewhere, but no one will deal with the car.  I looked into how
> to deal with an abandoned car, the property owner can get a tow yard to
> take it then put it up for auction and that will clean the title.
> Sounds involved. But I am wondering if it would be worth it to grab the
> thing, offer the guy $300 and haul it off, then do something...  No key...
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/d/summerville-2000-mercedes-benz-s55/7031193850.html
>
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