Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
It depends on the overall condition of the car, and oho much you like it. 230k is not that much -- Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
Looks like another Mercedes for Kaleb Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
The vultures are circling. Having spotted the prey, the vulture will keep his distance until sure the carcass is dead. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one or two valves. Then again while the heads are off you can rebuild the heads, replace the timing chain gear and you have a motor that should go another 200k miles easy. How's the rust and transmission, or do you just want a new car? Anyway the heads have got to come off, then you have an idea of how many beans it will cost to get running again. - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] Time for new car Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one or two valves. There's a 420 SEL in the U-Pull right now. If it were a local car and I had the time... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
Well for those of you who are not familiar with the 117. You when pulling heads you will have to heil-coil the block, which requires a special tool for making sure you drill the holes correctly. Last I checked the tool was $300. I have an engine with good heads, thus the main cost is the time and the tool. Sometimes you can get by with out heil-coiling block but not often. The real problem is the wife, she does not appreciate me spending time in garage. Also she is hates these 20 year old cars and all the repairs they seem to need. Thus she has her eye set on a new mini-van. She whole hearty believes that new cars do not have any problems. I guess I have two options with the car, one is to fix it. The other is to drop an OM617 under the hood which would take more time than fixing it. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one or two valves. Then again while the heads are off you can rebuild the heads, replace the timing chain gear and you have a motor that should go another 200k miles easy. How's the rust and transmission, or do you just want a new car? Anyway the heads have got to come off, then you have an idea of how many beans it will cost to get running again. - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] Time for new car Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not hear any rattles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
that sucks. Trampas wrote: It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not hear any rattles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Yea it sucks, but it is just a thing. I am glad I have not sold the old 300SD yet... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car that sucks. Trampas wrote: It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not hear any rattles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for new car WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time for new car
at 230k miles, the heads were more than ready to be done if not yet done. if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an excuse to get another one. On 9/2/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-6 seconds. Then it would not start. Then it would not turn over, locked up. Well after some investigation and removing valve covers, I found that the timing chain guide broke and well it now needs new valves. Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is worth the time to do a head job or not. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mr. J-Hursty brings up a good point: if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an excuse to get another one. I think we are spoiled in a way. We believe our cars will last and last and last by performing the normal routine maintanence. Sometimes it's hard to think of doing heads, etc as routine maintanence because these things are so stinkin bullet-proof dependable if even slightly taken care of. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 158K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
