Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
On Jan 27, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Euan wrote: But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? 280 engines come in two flavors, one drinks premium, one drinks regular, which is it? Premium likely. also adjusting the fuel injection can be tricky, a friend of mine had a 280GE it would get miserable to pour gas on the street milage until a dealer finally got the adjustments right, then it rated poor (15 miles per (usa) gallon). I would expect the wagon to get better of course. John 1983 300TDt 385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
John: Nice pun! Don On 1/27/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would get miserable to pour gas on the street mileage -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
Nothing much, the 280TE was the top of the line wagon for Benz, so should have all the bells and whistles like power windows, cruise, wood console/dash and other bits and pieces found in the 280's. Ecxpect to get 15l/100ks when tuned properly and running on good fuel, other than that the 110 motor is pretty bulletproof if the maintenance has been done. P.S. Are you on the Ozbenz forum? http://forum.mbspares.com.au/index.php It is more focused on Oz and NZ models than the Yankee lists. - Original Message - From: Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 26/01/2007
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
it's faster than the TD. it suffers the usual mercedes straight six valve guide/seal problems. it will punish you more if you get a poorly maintained example. what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there? On 1/27/07, Euan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there family Yesterday, I parked beside the rarest of rarities in NZ. A 1979 280TE, NZ-new, 2 owners, auto-trans with ... wait for it... 50 K original miles on the clock. And the owners may be thinking of selling it. So in the even rarer event that SWMBO would agree to owning a second W123 estate, I'm all-atremble at the prospect of making an offer for it. But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? I noticed also that, at rest, this beauty rode a lot higher in the rear than my 205K mile wagon. Why would that be, do you think? Will the imminent replacement of my suspension struts jack my butt up too? Thanks Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
In case anyone is interestetd in the latest Mobil1 tests, here's the URL: http://www.mobiloil.com:80/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Product_Testing_Las_Vegas.aspx Not intended to start another round of the same old oil thread! Werner '90 300D '83SD
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
About 2-3 grand more than a sedan. 300TD's are getting very rare, mostly 230TE's and a few 280TE's. People are just not selling them. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason it's faster than the TD. it suffers the usual mercedes straight six valve guide/seal problems. it will punish you more if you get a poorly maintained example. what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there?
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
Euan, Where in NZ are you? I'm meant to be there in a month or so. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason Hi there family Yesterday, I parked beside the rarest of rarities in NZ. A 1979 280TE, NZ-new, 2 owners, auto-trans with ... wait for it... 50 K original miles on the clock. And the owners may be thinking of selling it. So in the even rarer event that SWMBO would agree to owning a second W123 estate, I'm all-atremble at the prospect of making an offer for it. But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences (petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished 300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed? I noticed also that, at rest, this beauty rode a lot higher in the rear than my 205K mile wagon. Why would that be, do you think? Will the imminent replacement of my suspension struts jack my butt up too? Thanks Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 11:11 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 1/26/2007 11:11 AM
Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason
Euan wrote: Will the imminent replacement of my suspension struts jack my butt up too? If they leak too badly to hold pressure it sure will. I just hope you don't have failed accumulators, which resulted in pressure spikes that blew the strut seals and hammered the control valve to death. Adding a control valve and a couple of accumulators to the job will make it even more pricey. At least you have the old square rebuildable control valve, not the newer round disposeable valve found in 201 and 124 chassis. I lucked out, getting a used control valve for $50 that actually works, and new accumulators on sale for about $80 each. (all prices in USD) Still need to get some of the proper fluid, I thought I could get it at the local airport and didn't order any with the accumulators. Mitch.
