Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Easy, send me the inferior android fone and buy  a ifone 10!

I'll use the old android for car diagnostics only.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
November 1, 2017 at 9:50 AM
Apple only, too bad. I need to find equivalent for Android.

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Apple only, too bad.  I need to find equivalent for Android.

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Max
Charleston SC


>
> > http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Not really. Like any maintenance program, you've got to be committed to 
entering the data. For things like fuel, since it's on my phone I just do it 
when I fuel the car - easy. For maintenance items, I do it after I've done the 
work.

If it's a repetitive operation, such as an oil and filter change, you can set 
them up for repeats with reminders based on either mileage or time, or both.

With multiple cars as I have, if an operation is already in the database, when 
you go to put a new instance in the program will attempt to replicate it if you 
like, even if it was same thing you did only on a different car.

It will dump records to a .csv (MS Excel) if you like as well.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Is it a pain to enter everything?  Is it pretty easy to use?  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:06 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change
> 
> Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple 
> of months ago:
> 
> http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/
> 
> It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used 
> in years.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Is it a pain to enter everything?  Is it pretty easy to use?  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple of 
months ago:

http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/

It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used in 
years.

-D

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 



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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Ah - (almost) everything _tries_ to harvest personal
> > information. *grin*
> > 
> > Some of us use means to prevent it.  And there are apps that
> > don't - at least for Android.  Check out https://f-droid.org/
> > for non-google apps.

> Mitch wrote:
>  
> What's the point of using apps that don't harvest your
> information, if you're using Google Andriod as your OS? Isn't
> Google the leading harvester?

And the other choice is ... Apple.  NO THANK YOU.  At least with
Android I have a file system, some choices on how I use it,  and
the OS developer isn't actively trying to prevent anyone from
trying to do something outside of their jail cell.

So I use Android and even without rooting the phone it's possible
to limit - but not eliminate - how much is collected.

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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 30, 2017 at 2:59 AM fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:

> Ah - (almost) everything _tries_ to harvest personal information.
> *grin*
> 
> Some of us use means to prevent it.  And there are apps that don't
> - at least for Android.  Check out https://f-droid.org/ for
> non-google apps.

What's the point of using apps that don't harvest your information, if you're 
using Google Andriod as your OS? Isn't Google the leading harvester?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Dan sez:
> > 
> >‎ but they also harvested your personal >information, so that
> > was a big negative.

> Rick wrote:

> EVERYTHING harvests your personal information.

Ah - (almost) everything _tries_ to harvest personal information.
*grin*

Some of us use means to prevent it.  And there are apps that don't
- at least for Android.  Check out https://f-droid.org/ for
non-google apps.

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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan sez:

>‎but they also harvested your personal >information, so that was a big 
>negative.

EVERYTHING harvests your personal information.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Same here, but I could never find anything.  Gas Buddy tried to branch out into 
this by absorbing a nice iOS app that I used to use. They completely dumbed it 
down and made it a web app, but they also harvested your personal information, 
so that was a big negative.

-D

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I really wanted some sort of program that ran on pc but had a phone app that 
> could sync it to the main desktop program. Such a thing does not seem to 
> exist. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I really wanted some sort of program that ran on pc but had a phone app that 
could sync it to the main desktop program. Such a thing does not seem to exist. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> I love the phone app, since it lets me enter my fuel stuff right
>> when I do it.  I have the iPad version, too, for easier data
>> entry at home for repairs and such.
> 
> Must not be storing it locally if you can enter data from two
> devices.
> 
> Is there also a desktop client?
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Unfortunately, no.  It uses Dropbox for storing the data and synchronization.  
I really like that aspect of it as I can enter my data on one device and the 
others are automatically updated.

The developer is great and very helpful.  He converted a boatload of records I 
had from Gas Buddy over for me when I signed up.

-D


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 5:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> I love the phone app, since it lets me enter my fuel stuff right
>> when I do it.  I have the iPad version, too, for easier data
>> entry at home for repairs and such.
> 
> Must not be storing it locally if you can enter data from two
> devices.
> 
> Is there also a desktop client?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> I love the phone app, since it lets me enter my fuel stuff right
> when I do it.  I have the iPad version, too, for easier data
> entry at home for repairs and such.

Must not be storing it locally if you can enter data from two
devices.

Is there also a desktop client?

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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I love the phone app, since it lets me enter my fuel stuff right when I do it.  
I have the iPad version, too, for easier data entry at home for repairs and 
such.

-D


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I looked at it but I didn’t really want a phone based deal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I looked at it but I didn’t really want a phone based deal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple 
> of months ago:
> 
> http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/
> 
> It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used 
> in years.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ohhh, I thought you were using Road Trip, the one I told you about a couple of 
months ago:

http://darrensoft.ca/roadtrip/

It is by far the best car maintenance and record keeping software I’ve used in 
years.

-D

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Which one are you using? I’m using one called automotive wolf on a pc. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Great program, isn’t it?  Best I’ve found so far for keeping records.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn’t realize I had it enabled. I put in all fill ups so i have an 
>> accurate mileage and don’t need it estimated. I have now turned that feature 
>> off.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Great program, isn’t it?  Best I’ve found so far for keeping records.

-D


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I didn’t realize I had it enabled. I put in all fill ups so i have an 
> accurate mileage and don’t need it estimated. I have now turned that feature 
> off.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I didn’t realize I had it enabled. I put in all fill ups so i have an accurate 
mileage and don’t need it estimated. I have now turned that feature off.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it estimates miles for you based on use - if you enable that function.  
> I don’t.  It will still show the estimated miles when you go to fill up fuel, 
> for example, only they’re grayed out but visible in the miles driven field 
> until you enter the data that populates this value based on actual data.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I changed the oil in the sdl today because my program I use to track it said 
>> it was due for one. When I went to enter the data for the oil change i 
>> discovered it still had about 2k miles to go. I had it set to calculate 
>> miles based on average miles drive which adds miles each day even if it’s 
>> not being driven. You can set it to do this in case you are not entering 
>> fuel data. In this case the car is not driven every day so it was showing 
>> more miles than the car had. I turned that feature off for my car. Guess no 
>> harm done.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Wasted oil change

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, it estimates miles for you based on use - if you enable that function.  I 
don’t.  It will still show the estimated miles when you go to fill up fuel, for 
example, only they’re grayed out but visible in the miles driven field until 
you enter the data that populates this value based on actual data.

-D


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I changed the oil in the sdl today because my program I use to track it said 
> it was due for one. When I went to enter the data for the oil change i 
> discovered it still had about 2k miles to go. I had it set to calculate miles 
> based on average miles drive which adds miles each day even if it’s not being 
> driven. You can set it to do this in case you are not entering fuel data. In 
> this case the car is not driven every day so it was showing more miles than 
> the car had. I turned that feature off for my car. Guess no harm done.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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