Re: [meteorite-list] Heirloom Dropped From Sky (PalmersvilleMeteorite)
Martin Horejsi wrote: > On 12/29/01 11:47 PM, "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Worldwide, about 2,000 new meteorites are found each year and are often > > utilized the way the Fagans used the Palmersville meteorite, said > > Christopher Goodmaster, a student at Middle Tennessee State University who > > collects meteorites and who helped Berryman through the process of > > certification. > > Way to go Chris! Good work. > > Cheers, > > Martin > Subject: Re: Palmersville Meteorite Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:43:31 -0600 (CST) From: christopher goodmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ken Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I purchased a Camel Donga from you back in Sept. I am very happy > with it. I saw your name again in the Tenn article about how you helped > Mr. Berryman get his meteorite classified. Just wanted to congratulate > you on a job well done! What was the classification. I hope Mr. > Berryman will reward your help with a small chunk!!! Thanks for the note, Ken. Glad you like the little Camel Donga. I hated to part with it, but I had to sell a few specimens from my collection earlier in the semester to help pay for school. Interestingly enough, Dr. Berryman is an adjunct professor here at MTSU. I actually took a class from him last semester. At the time, I had no idea he had an unclassified meteorite and he had no idea that I was interested in meteorites. He was actually referred to me by my advisor when, during a casual conversation, he mentioned to her that he had something that might be a meteorite. I gave him a crash course on meteoritics, we cut the specimen, and I sent off a chunk to UCLA to have it classified. Alan Rubin analyzed it and gave it a classification of H5. And yes, Dr. Berryman gave me a small piece to put in my collection =) Again, thanks for the note, hopefully you will see the Palmersville meteorite again in the next edition of the Meteoritical Bulletin. Best Regards, -chris. Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Dealers List 2002
Hi David (and list), Jim and I will be at Howard Johnson's 22nd st and I-10, but only long enough to sleep. We will be moving around and we'll have plenty of membrane boxes with us to offer, especially the little micro ones; these can be seen on my new membrane box website which should be up on www.meteorite1.org (I've just pointed the site to this domain so I hope it works.) We shall be there Friday for Michael Blood's auction (arriving very late Thursday night) , leaving the following Tuesday. Best wishes in the new year, Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: David Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Dealers List 2002 > Hi Folks, > > It's time to get the 2002 Tucson dealer's list started. This is the final list > from last year. If you know of any changes, let me know. > > Hope everyone has a blast, unfortunately I cannot make it this time. > > > David Hardy > > > Tucson Dealers List > > Notkin/Arnold Birthday Party > > Auction M. Blood @ Tucson Jr. Chamber of Commerce Bldg. on E. Ft. Lowell > > Auction The Macovich COllection InnSuites > Inn Suites > > 105 Eduardo & Oscar / Meteorites.com > 122 Marvin Killgore/ SW Meteorite > 162 Jensen Meteorites > 162 Mike Cottingham > 182 Bruno & Carine > 309 Meteorites, Minerals, and Fossils > 316 Labenne Meteorites > 404 Darryl Pitt (Macovich Collection) > 404 Steve Schoner > > > > Ramada Inn University > > 110 Blaine Reed > 110 Mike Martinez/ MARE Meteorites > 112 Meteorites and Pure Metals > > Best Western Executive Inn > > 130Allan Lang > 130Cosmic Matter > 234Meteorite Caravan > 246Larrylan > 268Chinese Meteorites and Tektites > Ballroom Erich and Sylvia > > > Four Points Hotel > > 117 Erich and Sylvia > 128 The Carions > Booth 7&8 Magic Mountain > Main Ent. Tent #7 Paul Liu (Great Wall) > > > > > Tucson Convention Center > > S-5Mineralogical Research Co. > > > > > Moving Around > > Matt Morgan cell # 303 229-8462 > Jim Strope mostly Blaine Reed's room > Mike Farmer cell # 520 360-0818 > Michael Cottingham > Rob Elliot > Dean Bessey > Eric Olson (ELKK) > Anne Black (Impactika) usually w/ the Carions > Fred Hall > John Sinclair > John Gwilliam > Jake Delgaudio usually with Al Lang > Steve Arnold cell #918 740-3300 > Dirk Ross > John Gwilliam > Greg Frazier > Steve Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-71 56648 > ___ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
Walter, I am sure many of us will miss seeing your micromounts. Most of Walters had $6.00 buy it nows and I purchased a few other the last couple years for gifts. I lwil however ook foward to the future educational additions to your site. I just got a 70mm Bushell recently so I will interested in those photos as well. Its a shame to see a good guy leave but I believe we all wish you well. Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" - Original Message - From: Walter Branch Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the price of something far beyond what they could have gotten it for at my site. Amazing. Well, I have decided that my New Years resolution will be to spend even more time with my family (not to mention my telescope projects) by just quitting to the commercial side of meteorites. I will do away with the commercial side of my site and focus more on the educational portion. For those of you who do not do this, I takes a lot of time to fully process new material for sale at a website, including preparing specimens for auction at ebay. In the past, whenever I would post new material at my site I would also enter for auction one specimen at a time at ebay until it was all sold. As I previously noted, most of my material sells (sold) at ebay, so posting at my website and ebay becomes somewhat redundant and time-consuming. As with any collecting venture, specimens fall in and out of favor and whenever one falls out of my favor I will offer it for sale here or at *gulp* ebay but I will no longer list the quantity of items as I used to. BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/sun12-24-01a.jpg and here is an image of the moon, same setup, http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/moon12-24-01a.jpg These were untouched, unprocessed, straight from the camera images. I would appreciate any critical comments from those of you who might do astrophotograpy. Okay, the length of this post has to be a record for me so I will end it. I want to thank everyone who has supported my efforts at branchmeteorites. I have tried to offer good material at reasonable prices, often at cost. You can follow any auctions I might have by searching on my (new) user id: branchmeteorites but before I re-list it at ebay, I have a 2263 gram sculpted Canyon Diablo for $550.00. Here is an image: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd1.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd2.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd3.jpg Best wishes and Happy New Year to every one! -Walter ---Walter Branch, Ph.D.Branch Meteorites322
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
When I explained to them that a number of sellers had links to their commercial websites, that this was not an uncommon practice, and also that letting them continue to do so would be a competitive disadvantage to me, they replied that they didn't police the policy, and that they acted only when someone complained. > >Ron Hartman Dont you just love ebays policys and how they enforce them? Convuluted responces like that is typical of many responces that I get from ebay also. When they made me delete the link to my artifacts auctions the closing prices of my artifacts dropped immeadiately even though I never sold many on my website. I suspect that this is because people with websites have a little more legitamacy - especially since the feedback rating system is pretty much crap and everybody knows it. My website used to be mostly for show to help out my ebay auctions but I plan on putting more time into website sales when I start up again after Tucson Cheers DEAN Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution?
Hi Ron, Yes, I do remember that incident being discussed on the list and the individuals involved. I suspected that's what you were referring to, and since it happened in the days when one could leave feedback even if no auction was involved, I think eBay was more open to removing negative feedback if, as you say, proof of wrongdoing could be presented to them. Indeed, I believe abuses of this sort, either padding someone's positive feedback, or damaging them with negative feedback is one reason they ruled feedback could only be used by the buyer and seller of a successful auction. Best wishes, Charlie --- Begin Message --- Charlie wrote: <. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave > feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback > being connected to an actual auction. >> It may have been. The offender claimed (as I remember) that the dealer accepted cash for 5 auctions when he was not even in the country. There is more to that and I'm not fighting other people's battles. I just read about it on the list and anyone can go look it up if they wish. It was a setup and could be proven. That's all that is important. The point is that it is technically possible for eBay to remove negative feedback if they opt to do so, as in the case of a criminal act. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dean bessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution? > Hello Dean, > > You are probably correct in your reasoning here, but one thing might be > kept in mind. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave > feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback > being connected to an actual auction. I know I received one positive > feedback for an artifact I sold to someone even though no auction was > involved. > The gentleman left me feedback because I had won one of his eBay > auctions, we established a friendship, and he wished to return the > favor. > Of course in time eBay ruled that all feedback must be linked to an > auction, but perhaps the feedback problem Ron Hartman refers to here > occurred prior to their policy change? > > Best wishes, > Charlie > > --- End Message ---
[meteorite-list] Tucson Show
Greetings fellow list members. I have some details and a question: The following dates are of particular interest to the meteorite community: Fri, Feb. 8 7PM Michael Blood Meteorite Auction Tucson Jr. Chamber of Commerce Hall 1115 E. Ft. Lowell (rustic cowboy setting with a bar - details of directions provided later) Sat, Feb 9, PM Birthday (Geoff Nodkin/Steeve Arnold) Dinner Las Fuentes? near the traffic circle between Braine Reeds and Al Langs motels Sun, Feb 10, AM Darryl Pitt Meteorite Auction InnSuites Poolside DATE TO BE DETERMINED: Michael Blood Fossil Auction Tucson Jr. Chamber of Commerce Hall 1115 E. Ft. Lowell Dates for this fossil auction are limited to the following options this year: The evenings of: Tue, Feb 5th Sat, Feb 9th Sun, Feb 10th Each of these days has major drawbacks - Tue is too early for most people to be there and is, additionally, a weekday. Sat is during Geoff & Steves Birthday Dinner - who wants to miss that? Sunday has double problems in that it is the evening following Darryls auction which makes for a LONG day for people AND, many people leave by mid afternoon on Sunday. Still, this MIGHT be the best that can be done this year. On the other hand, perhaps few into meteorites would really care, so, Sat. evening would be mostly just me and Geoff missing out - I really dont know. So, would those who might attend email me and let me know When they would, might and wouldnt/couldnt attend each of those evenings? Id appreciate it. Thanks, Michael Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Hi Walter, I dabble in astrophotography from time to time and have a Kodak DC 240 digital camera. Not one of the best digi cams but it's decent enough. I have shot the sun, moon, Jupiter and Saturn. It's a bit tricky as you know but decent results but nothing Earth shattering. Your Sun and Moon shots came out very well! I used a Nexstar 5 scope. They make camera adapters to attach dig cams to the eyepiece, one company that makes them is called Scopetronix. I think Orion Telescopes now makes one as well. Happy new year Walter and to all on the list! Regards, Tom Randall BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/sun12-24-01a.jpg and here is an image of the moon, same setup, http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/moon12-24-01a.jpg Best wishes and Happy New Year to every one! -Walter --
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay : Meteorite?
This is not a meteorite, I have e-mail the seller a polite message stating so. No reply yet! Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what to make of this . 2nd pic looks like some nickel ore I have. Need your scholarly opinions http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1053927167 Ken Newton #9632
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
We'll miss Walter's website. He is a true gentlemen and a good person to deal with. Walter: Good luck with your astrophotography. Now you can photograph all those places in the Universe where meteorites are made! In reference to his auctions, eBay contacted me recently as I had a hotlink to my website. They were quite nice about it, though, and allowed the auction to finish. When I explained to them that a number of sellers had links to their commercial websites, that this was not an uncommon practice, and also that letting them continue to do so would be a competitive disadvantage to me, they replied that they didn't police the policy, and that they acted only when someone complained. They then e-mailed me a form that I could fill out and return to them, and requested that I do so whenever I saw someone else doing the same thing. (I wouldn't do that, but apparently there are others who would. If that is what they need in order to sleep peacefully at night, then that is what they must do.) Incidentally, they did say that you could refer bidders to your commercial website link on your "about me" site, and that it would be allright to put them there. Ron Hartman www.meteorite1.com - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the price of something far beyond what they could have gotten it for at my site. Amazing. Well, I have decided that my New Years resolution will be to spend even more time with my family (not to mention my telescope projects) by just quitting to the commercial side of meteorites. I will do away with the commercial side of my site and focus more on the educational portion. For those of you who do not do this, I takes a lot of time to fully process new material for sale at a website, including preparing specimens for auction at ebay. In the past, whenever I would post new material at my site I would also enter for auction one specimen at a time at ebay until it was all sold. As I previously noted, most of my material sells (sold) at ebay, so posting at my website and ebay becomes somewhat redundant and time-consuming. As with any collecting venture, specimens fall in and out of favor and whenever one falls out of my favor I will offer it for sale here or at *gulp* ebay but I will no longer list the quantity of items as I used to. BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/
[meteorite-list] Tucson Dealers List 2002
Hi Folks, It's time to get the 2002 Tucson dealer's list started. This is the final list from last year. If you know of any changes, let me know. Hope everyone has a blast, unfortunately I cannot make it this time. David Hardy Tucson Dealers List Notkin/Arnold Birthday Party Auction M. Blood @ Tucson Jr. Chamber of Commerce Bldg. on E. Ft. Lowell Auction The Macovich COllection InnSuites Inn Suites 105 Eduardo & Oscar / Meteorites.com 122 Marvin Killgore/ SW Meteorite 162 Jensen Meteorites 162 Mike Cottingham 182 Bruno & Carine 309 Meteorites, Minerals, and Fossils 316 Labenne Meteorites 404 Darryl Pitt (Macovich Collection) 404 Steve Schoner Ramada Inn University 110 Blaine Reed 110 Mike Martinez/ MARE Meteorites 112 Meteorites and Pure Metals Best Western Executive Inn 130Allan Lang 130Cosmic Matter 234Meteorite Caravan 246Larrylan 268Chinese Meteorites and Tektites Ballroom Erich and Sylvia Four Points Hotel 117 Erich and Sylvia 128 The Carions Booth 7&8 Magic Mountain Main Ent. Tent #7 Paul Liu (Great Wall) Tucson Convention Center S-5Mineralogical Research Co. Moving Around Matt Morgan cell # 303 229-8462 Jim Strope mostly Blaine Reeds room Mike Farmer cell # 520 360-0818 Michael Cottingham Rob Elliot Dean Bessey Eric Olson (ELKK) Anne Black (Impactika) usually w/ the Carions Fred Hall John Sinclair John Gwilliam Jake Delgaudio usually with Al Lang Steve Arnold cell #918 740-3300 Dirk Ross John Gwilliam Greg Frazier Steve Smith __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
AWESOME photos...Walter I can not wait to see the photos you take when you get serious about Astrophotography! The meteorite is an awesome specimen, wish my funds were not tied up in inventory!(drool) Mark M. - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the price of something far beyond what they could have gotten it for at my site. Amazing. Well, I have decided that my New Years resolution will be to spend even more time with my family (not to mention my telescope projects) by just quitting to the commercial side of meteorites. I will do away with the commercial side of my site and focus more on the educational portion. For those of you who do not do this, I takes a lot of time to fully process new material for sale at a website, including preparing specimens for auction at ebay. In the past, whenever I would post new material at my site I would also enter for auction one specimen at a time at ebay until it was all sold. As I previously noted, most of my material sells (sold) at ebay, so posting at my website and ebay becomes somewhat redundant and time-consuming. As with any collecting venture, specimens fall in and out of favor and whenever one falls out of my favor I will offer it for sale here or at *gulp* ebay but I will no longer list the quantity of items as I used to. BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/sun12-24-01a.jpg and here is an image of the moon, same setup, http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/moon12-24-01a.jpg These were untouched, unprocessed, straight from the camera images. I would appreciate any critical comments from those of you who might do astrophotograpy. Okay, the length of this post has to be a record for me so I will end it. I want to thank everyone who has supported my efforts at branchmeteorites. I have tried to offer good material at reasonable prices, often at cost. You can follow any auctions I might have by searching on my (new) user id: branchmeteorites but before I re-list it at ebay, I have a 2263 gram sculpted Canyon Diablo for $550.00. Here is an image: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd1.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd2.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd3.jpg Best wishes and Happy New Year to every one! -Walter -
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution?
Charlie wrote: <. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave > feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback > being connected to an actual auction. >> It may have been. The offender claimed (as I remember) that the dealer accepted cash for 5 auctions when he was not even in the country. There is more to that and I'm not fighting other people's battles. I just read about it on the list and anyone can go look it up if they wish. It was a setup and could be proven. That's all that is important. The point is that it is technically possible for eBay to remove negative feedback if they opt to do so, as in the case of a criminal act. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dean bessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution? > Hello Dean, > > You are probably correct in your reasoning here, but one thing might be > kept in mind. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave > feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback > being connected to an actual auction. I know I received one positive > feedback for an artifact I sold to someone even though no auction was > involved. > The gentleman left me feedback because I had won one of his eBay > auctions, we established a friendship, and he wished to return the > favor. > Of course in time eBay ruled that all feedback must be linked to an > auction, but perhaps the feedback problem Ron Hartman refers to here > occurred prior to their policy change? > > Best wishes, > Charlie > > Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
By the way...when you give a refund to someone on Ebay, go to the auction and file a "Non-Paying Bidder Alert." One of the reasons that Ebay lists is something to the effect that "Customer Returned Item for a Full Refund". Once that is completed it will immediately take you to a screen to "Request a Refund of Your Final Value Fee". So you can offer a full refund and still get your ebay fees refunded. The only hitch is it has to be within 45 days from the end of the auction I believe, I have never had to do it on an item longer than that. We just refunded an item that had damage that we never even saw, it was a $293.00 sale on a Moriage China Plate, we refunded the price in full and Ebay did the same for us on the fees. Marl M. - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the price of something far beyond what they could have gotten it for at my site. Amazing. Well, I have decided that my New Years resolution will be to spend even more time with my family (not to mention my telescope projects) by just quitting to the commercial side of meteorites. I will do away with the commercial side of my site and focus more on the educational portion. For those of you who do not do this, I takes a lot of time to fully process new material for sale at a website, including preparing specimens for auction at ebay. In the past, whenever I would post new material at my site I would also enter for auction one specimen at a time at ebay until it was all sold. As I previously noted, most of my material sells (sold) at ebay, so posting at my website and ebay becomes somewhat redundant and time-consuming. As with any collecting venture, specimens fall in and out of favor and whenever one falls out of my favor I will offer it for sale here or at *gulp* ebay but I will no longer list the quantity of items as I used to. BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/sun12-24-01a.jpg and here is an image of the moon, same setup, http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/moon12-24-01a.jpg These were untouched, unprocessed, straight from the camera images. I would appreciate any critical comments from those of you who might do astrophotograpy. Okay, the length of this post has to be a record for me so I will end it. I want to thank everyone who has supported my efforts at branchmeteorites. I have tried
[meteorite-list] Re:Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! SUGGESTION!!
This is a bit long but worth the reading if you sell on Ebay. Just a suggestion from a seller of all types of goodies on ebay. My wife and I use a service called AuctionWatch(auctionwatch.com). OUR SLEER ID is desertcrystal for those that wish to check out our listings in reference to what I am about to discuss. They offer picture hosting, auction launching, post sale management tools and "An Ebay legal and Ebay Approved" storefront for "Fixed Price" sales. There is another service Andale(andale.com) that is very similar. I believe Andale offers a store front also, they did when I used their site. I have not used my storefront on AuctionWatch as we do not really sell many items that we get multiples of, such as slices of the same meteorite. Ebay does allow reference to the store front. Auctionwatch is reasonably price, their software is very stable and bug free. The have AMPRO which allows you to create auctions without being online and then uploading the auctions, you can schedule auctions, the post management tools run the gambit from Winning Bidder notifications, which can be automatically sent if the shipping is fixed priced, payment reminders, shipping invoice generation, shipment notification, feedback sending without being on ebay, and feedback reminders to those lovely masses that always seem to ask for feedback when they pay but never seem to remember to leave it for you. You can even change the winners email address if they contact you from one that differs from their Ebay email addy. I hardly ever recommend anything, but will go out on a limb and say I do on this. I know we would not be selling on Ebay if we had to use only Ebay. Many of you may have noticed that 90% of the sellers on Ebay suddenly stopped using multiple pictures in their listingsthat is due to ebay upping the cost of images through their site. I BELIEVE my wife and I have a DISTINCT advantage with AW as we have as many as 10 photos in our auctions, AND NOT those click here to see an almost big photo, ours ARE FULL SIZE WHEN CLICKED! AW does not have an image limit as far as storage goes. We recently had over 4000 images stored, though they will delete those older than 90 days. And with the AW Management software you can upload photos in bulk. Tracking auctions is so easy with AW, the will even import buyers into folders, and you can create mailing lists to notify buyers of sales and the such. I hope that this is not too long...anyone can contact me off list if you have any questions. If you read this far I thank you for your time and apologize for this is a bit off topic. Bright Blessings to all Mark M. - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word! Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the p
[meteorite-list] Ebay : Meteorite?
I don't know what to make of this . 2nd pic looks like some nickel ore I have. Need your scholarly opinions http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1053927167 Ken Newton #9632
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
Walter, Sorry that link for the digital astro group didn't come through. Here it is again. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_astro/ Ginger Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
Hi Walter, I'm sorry to hear about your frustrations with e-bay but just wanted to say that your first digital astro images are quite good. You should have seen my first attempts! I don't know if you'll have time for another group but we have a very active and friendly digital astro group at the link below. Lots of good info in the Files section, especially the FAQ's and Getting Started Guide. Yahoo groups has been having a LOT of problems today so you may not be able to access it right away but try again later. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ginger Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay, Selling, Quiting, etc. Last Word!
Hello Everyone, First, my apologies to Charlie and Michael. I re-read their post with a less defensive attitude. I have now calmed down enough to explain what happened at ebay. I had some meteorite and non-meteorite auctions ended by ebay a couple of days ago. Ebay sellers take note: my auctions were ended because (1) I provided a hyperlink to my website (that is, a clickable banner) and (2) I stated in my auctions that anything can be returned for a refund minus shipping and auction fees. Ebay apparently interprets this last statement as requiring the buyer to pay these fees and this is against their policy. I have made references to my website and I have stated this refund policy for literally years (though I have never had anything returned). This business of not being able to link to a website really irritates me. If anyone has been to my site in the last 6 months or so, you would have seen a 99% educational site, which is what I like mostly about meteorites. I have not had any new material for sale in months because I simply have not had the time. I have gotten email from educators and school kids, CNN science reporters, people researching the topic of meteorites, etc, most of whom found my site via ebay. Now ebay is saying they won't allow links to external sites. Umm, interesting. I just tried to change my ebay id from wbranchsb to branchmeteorites.com and ebay would not let me do it. Nor would they accept branchmeteoritesdotcom. Looks like dealers such as Jim Strope (sikhote-alin.com) and Steve Arnold (meteoritebroker.com) and others got theirs in time. In case anyone follows my auctions, I did just successfully change my id to branchmeteorites, so now I have to shades to the right of my id. Speaking only from my experience with the commercial side of my website, I can honestly say that few people actually bought from my site. It seems that most collectors prefer to bid at ebay. Funny thing is, most of these bidders bid up the price of something far beyond what they could have gotten it for at my site. Amazing. Well, I have decided that my New Years resolution will be to spend even more time with my family (not to mention my telescope projects) by just quitting to the commercial side of meteorites. I will do away with the commercial side of my site and focus more on the educational portion. For those of you who do not do this, I takes a lot of time to fully process new material for sale at a website, including preparing specimens for auction at ebay. In the past, whenever I would post new material at my site I would also enter for auction one specimen at a time at ebay until it was all sold. As I previously noted, most of my material sells (sold) at ebay, so posting at my website and ebay becomes somewhat redundant and time-consuming. As with any collecting venture, specimens fall in and out of favor and whenever one falls out of my favor I will offer it for sale here or at *gulp* ebay but I will no longer list the quantity of items as I used to. BTW, I have recently developed an interest in astrophotography and I will be spending more time with this. My initial efforts were on Christmas eve, December 24. I used a 70mm scope and my digital camera, which was held to the eyepiece. Here is the best of a series I took of sunspots: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/sun12-24-01a.jpg and here is an image of the moon, same setup, http://www.branchmeteorites.com/photos/moon12-24-01a.jpg These were untouched, unprocessed, straight from the camera images. I would appreciate any critical comments from those of you who might do astrophotograpy. Okay, the length of this post has to be a record for me so I will end it. I want to thank everyone who has supported my efforts at branchmeteorites. I have tried to offer good material at reasonable prices, often at cost. You can follow any auctions I might have by searching on my (new) user id: branchmeteorites but before I re-list it at ebay, I have a 2263 gram sculpted Canyon Diablo for $550.00. Here is an image: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd1.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd2.jpg http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/cd3.jpg Best wishes and Happy New Year to every one! -Walter ---Walter Branch, Ph.D.Branch Meteorites322 Stephenson Ave., Suite BSavannah, GA 31405 USAwww.branchmeteorites.com
[meteorite-list] Books For Sale
Good afternoon members, I am in the process of selling a number of duplicate meteorite books as a group and will entertain the price off list. They are going to be sold as a group and will not be sold separate. I am offering these to the list group first, and if not sold, well lets just say I'd hate to see them go on Ebay. Here then are the following books for sale, with conditons, etc. 1) Catalog of Meteorites in the collections of Arizona State University, 1976 including Ninninger Meteorite Collection by Charles Lewis and Carleton Moore Excellent condition, paperback. 2) Stones From the Stars - The Unsolved Mysteries of Meteorites, by T.R. LeMaire 1980, Excellent shape, w/ dustjacket. 3) Meteorites Stones from the Sky, by R.V. Foder, 1976 / Ex Lib. book. Lots of great B&W photos. Childrens Book. Good Shape. 4) Thunderstones and Shooting Stars, By Robert T. Dodd, 1986, Hardcover, Ex-Library. Only one person apparently had taken this book out from library (one date stamped), so it is in Excellent condition. 5) Meteorite Craters by Kathleen Mark, New Hardcover book. Was a gift from a family member, and I already had a copy. 6) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets by Harry McSween Jr. Hardcover / Ex-Library book. Had never been taken out of library (no book stamp dates) Excellent condition. 7) Minerals from the Earth and Sky #3 in the Smithsonian Series G.P. Merrill About 6 years ago, I went to the Brandeis University book sale. This sale is listed as worlds largest used book sale. I found two complete Smithsonian Sets, new, still in their cardboard carriers. I was fortunate to get the #3 volumes without having to buy the entire collection. This volume is dated 1944, and as you can tell by now, is in prestine condition. 8) Our Stone Pelted Planet by Ninninger. This book was autographed by Ninninger in February 1949. As the above book is in prestine condition, this one is not. While every page is readable, there is heavy water damage. I used this book more as a collection "filler" until a better copy came along. Still usable though, and it does have the autograph. 9) Out of the Sky and Introduction to Meteoritics by Ninninger. Paperback, Very Good condition. Because the binding and pages are in such great shape, I really can't tell if this book was ever read by the original owner. 10) The Fire Came By, The Riddle of the Great Siberian Explosion. by John Baxter and Thomas Atkins. Nice book about the 1908 Tungusta event. 1976 A bit dated but a nice addition to any collection. Book in excellent shape. Dusk jacket complete, but worn with one small rip. 11) Cosmic Collisions by Dana Desonie / from Scientific American series. Smaller book 128 pages. Easy content. 1996. OK...there you have it. All 11 books. No duplicates of Krinov unfortunately. But you know the value of the above. I know the value of the above. Go to either Amazon or Barnes and Noble and check out the rare book sections for used books on meteorites and you get the idea. Please contact me offline if you would be interested in buying this lot. I have a minimum amount in mind in which I will let these go for, and I will place a posting to the list on January 1, if the collection has or has not been sold. I will acknowledge each bid privately. Winning buyer will need to add $10.00 for postage. Best to all of you this Holiday Season, and may 2002 be equally wonderful to you all. Steven L. Sachs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] bid tampering and meteorwrong solutions
>I do know that eBay does not monitor what goes through their contacts bidders option. I >know that I recently bid on some concert tickets on there and was contacted by multiple >people offering their tickets for sale. Really annoying though because none of them were >very kind when I pointed out that they were breaking eBay's rules and I had no idea who >they were or if their tickets were legit. >Regards, >Rhett Bourland > Ebay (The powerseller people) also once told me that they dont even have a record kept of who sent emails through the contact system and that they can only investigate abuse if people sent them the sent emails with complete headers included. Of course just because ebay said that dont mean that it is right but for whatever it is worth that is what they told me. Cheers DEANChat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] bid tampering and meteorwrong solutions
I do know that eBay does not monitor what goes through their contacts bidders option. I know that I recently bid on some concert tickets on there and was contacted by multiple people offering their tickets for sale. Really annoying though because none of them were very kind when I pointed out that they were breaking eBay's rules and I had no idea who they were or if their tickets were legit. Regards, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert & Wendi Beauford Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] bid tampering and meteorwrong solutions > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution? > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:09:19 > > >The other option is to contact the buyer and inform them that they've > >probably bought a meteor-wrong. > This is a strict violation of ebay rules - particularly when an auction is > still in progress. Ebay will act on people who do this and you could get > suspended from ebay. It called "bid tampering". Usually this is good because people who email buyers are usually nutcases out to screw a seller or > otherwise interfere with his business. I'm not a lawyer and in no way qualified to comment on contractual law, but I think it might also fall under interference of contract in a broader legal setting. I sure as heck wouldn't do it. It's too easy to then justify '... now here is an example of a better item that I happen to be offering.' I say stick with educating the sellers. It would be nice to have a broadly useful meteorwrong site where sellers can be directed to learn about minerals and industrial byproducts commonly mistaken for meteorites. ...Something along the lines of a gently informative article with background, general guidelines for distinctions of both meteorites and meteorwrongs, high quality pictures of the most common meteorwrongs with detailed descriptions of what they are and where they come from or how they form, and a section describing where and how they can get an item tested. Then do up a standard formalized letter that describes who is calling the item into question, along with their qualifications, and how the person may redress the problem. Mention that if they would feel more comfortable ending their auction if they could recieve a second or third opinion from other qualified persons, than you can have several other people who have commented on the meteorwrong contact them as well. -Robert : ) Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-71 56648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bid tampering and meteorwrong solutions
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution? > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:09:19 > > >The other option is to contact the buyer and inform them that they've > >probably bought a meteor-wrong. > This is a strict violation of ebay rules - particularly when an auction is > still in progress. Ebay will act on people who do this and you could get > suspended from ebay. It called "bid tampering". Usually this is good because people who email buyers are usually nutcases out to screw a seller or > otherwise interfere with his business. I'm not a lawyer and in no way qualified to comment on contractual law, but I think it might also fall under interference of contract in a broader legal setting. I sure as heck wouldn't do it. It's too easy to then justify '... now here is an example of a better item that I happen to be offering.' I say stick with educating the sellers. It would be nice to have a broadly useful meteorwrong site where sellers can be directed to learn about minerals and industrial byproducts commonly mistaken for meteorites. ...Something along the lines of a gently informative article with background, general guidelines for distinctions of both meteorites and meteorwrongs, high quality pictures of the most common meteorwrongs with detailed descriptions of what they are and where they come from or how they form, and a section describing where and how they can get an item tested. Then do up a standard formalized letter that describes who is calling the item into question, along with their qualifications, and how the person may redress the problem. Mention that if they would feel more comfortable ending their auction if they could recieve a second or third opinion from other qualified persons, than you can have several other people who have commented on the meteorwrong contact them as well. -Robert : ) Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Show Accommodation
Two ideas for rooms near Ina and Oracle Roads: Country Inn Suites 520-575-9255 On 12/29 they told me they are half full, rooms show $104 regular room plus discount for AAA etc. Desert Aire Lodge (small houses, not a regular motel) 520-742-3971 Just now he has two efficiency apts at $325 week, and a one bedroom with living room etc. $450 week. Twink and Larry Monrad Within reason I could check a few other places if anyone needs to e mail us privately
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show
The web page is www.tucsonshowguide.com. It's an awesome show. You must go.
[meteorite-list] Tucson Show
Is there a web site listing the show dates, times, places, etc, etc M. Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Accommodation?
I just checked AOLs site for rooms in Tucson. They gave me many hotels to choose from but the prices were in the $150 to $200 a night range. I have been finding that AOL is a good site pricewise to buy plane tickets and to book rental cars but have never booked a room through them. For those of you who dont mind driving 60 miles or so you should be able to get a hotel in Nogales starting at about $25 or $30. Me and Roman went last year and had a rough time getting a hotel but did manage to find one after we arrived. I wouldent advise you doing that though unless you are willing to take a chance on having to sleep at the Toyota Inn. But no matter what you do the important thing is that you go. It is the worlds premier mineral show and is not to be missed. Cheers DEAN _ You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Accommodation? >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:37:15 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.92.1.92] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBDF89D0A009F40043111D85C015C06570; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:42:48 -0800 >Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1])by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTPid 99A91538E4; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:42:22 -0500 (EST) >Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23])by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DE453537ABfor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:41:33 -0500 (EST) >Received: (qmail 39773 invoked by uid 7111); 30 Dec 2001 17:41:33 - >Received: (qmail 39770 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 17:41:33 - >Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.120.122) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 17:41:33 - >Received: from dialup-209.244.238.158.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net ([209.244.238.158])by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id 16Kjxk-0003El-00for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:41:32 -0800 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:43:13 -0800 >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-Id: >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 >Precedence: bulk >List-Help: >List-Post: >List-Subscribe: , >List-Id: >List-Unsubscribe: , >List-Archive: > >Dear Listees: > >We booked our Tucson room months ago, and hope you did too : ) > >A paleontologist friend of mine has just decided to attend the show, >and I wonder if any of you have recently booked rooms and know of >any >hotels/motels that might still have space during showtime? > >Thanks, > >Geoff N. > >Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - >http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 >___ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Show Accommodation?
Dear Listees: We booked our Tucson room months ago, and hope you did too : ) A paleontologist friend of mine has just decided to attend the show, and I wonder if any of you have recently booked rooms and know of any hotels/motels that might still have space during showtime? Thanks, Geoff N. Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution?
You are partially right on that. A couple years ago you could indeed leave a positive feedback for anybody wither you did an ebay transaction or not (Possibly a nuetral one to - I am not sure on that one). However you could never leave a negative without completing an ebay transaction. Ebay will also remove feedback if it contains profanity, contact info or comments about a transaction or situation that is not related to ebay. Legal comments are also off limits (ie: you cant say "The police have been notified", or "I will be sueing him") There are likely a couple other reasons in which they would remove it also. If it can be proven that the person does not exist they may or may not remove it. They will tell you that they wont but there is conflicting situations around that. They seem more willing to remove it in that situation for american users than foreign users but confusion reigns around that. Also if a feedback is left by someone who has opened a new ebay id it might get removed also as it is against rules to open a second user id to leave a negative feedback. It has to be done on your own user id. However, there is no rule against having two or more ebay user ids (As long as there is no interaction between them). So the situation in that case seems vague and open to confusion to me to me also. But ebay wont make value judgements on wither the feedback is warranted. Also at the current time if a user is suspended from ebay after leaving you a negative feedback the feedback will still stand and is not a reason that ebay will remove it (Even though ebay knows that they are a scumbag). That was different a while ago also. Sincerely DEAN _ You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Devine) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dean bessey) >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution? >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:48:32 -0500 (EST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) >Received: from [209.240.198.119] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBDF882500094400437A6D1F0C67799A70; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:32 -0800 >Received: from storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.163])by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTPid 6ED5D852; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:32 -0800 (PST) >Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id HAA11815; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:32 -0800 (PST) >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:49:24 -0800 >X-WebTV-Signature: 1ETAtAhRrMRqKHriOXlKHviDuABHqEypH+wIVALQ4DoMZ3Jti/jHM8iEx/J31fe+v >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: "dean bessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s message of Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:20:29 > >Hello Dean, > >You are probably correct in your reasoning here, but one thing might be >kept in mind. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave >feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback >being connected to an actual auction. I know I received one positive >feedback for an artifact I sold to someone even though no auction was >involved. >The gentleman left me feedback because I had won one of his eBay >auctions, we established a friendship, and he wished to return the >favor. >Of course in time eBay ruled that all feedback must be linked to an >auction, but perhaps the feedback problem Ron Hartman refers to here >occurred prior to their policy change? > >Best wishes, >Charlie > ><< Message3.txt >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heirloom Dropped From Sky (PalmersvilleMeteorite)
On 12/29/01 11:47 PM, "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Worldwide, about 2,000 new meteorites are found each year and are often > utilized the way the Fagans used the Palmersville meteorite, said > Christopher Goodmaster, a student at Middle Tennessee State University who > collects meteorites and who helped Berryman through the process of > certification. Way to go Chris! Good work. Cheers, Martin Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution?
Hello Dean, You are probably correct in your reasoning here, but one thing might be kept in mind. As recently as 2 years ago, it was possible to leave feedback for someone, whether positive or negative, without the feedback being connected to an actual auction. I know I received one positive feedback for an artifact I sold to someone even though no auction was involved. The gentleman left me feedback because I had won one of his eBay auctions, we established a friendship, and he wished to return the favor. Of course in time eBay ruled that all feedback must be linked to an auction, but perhaps the feedback problem Ron Hartman refers to here occurred prior to their policy change? Best wishes, Charlie --- Begin Message --- >There was one case awhile ago where someone who was way off-base made >up >some false accusations about a well-known and highly respected >dealer and >posted 5 consecutive complaints against him on eBay. >Since he could >prove that he was in Africa at the time, there was no >question at all. >eBay did remove the complaints to restore his good >record. >Ron Hartman >www.meteorite1.com > Nope. You are wrong on the reason here. There is no way that that could have happened. I dont know details but ebay will not remove feedback for that reason that you were away (After all, he did list an auction so any feedback from it is valid as far as ebay is concerned - you cant receive feedback without listing an auction. Ebay will let you list an auction if you are in africa). They would have removed it for a totally different reason as it violated ebays feedback rules. Ebay has something called "feedback bombing". If somebody leaves 3 or more negative feedbacks for somebody ebay considers it abuse and will remove it. The maximun number of negative feedbacks that you can leave a seller (Or buyer) is two. So since this unnamed person had 5 negatives left to him the negatives were a violation of ebays feedback rules (The " feedback bombing" rule) as so ebay would be willing to remove it - wither they consider it valid or not. Sincerely DEAN > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- End Message ---
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible eBay Solution?
>There was one case awhile ago where someone who was way off-base made >up >some false accusations about a well-known and highly respected >dealer and >posted 5 consecutive complaints against him on eBay. >Since he could >prove that he was in Africa at the time, there was no >question at all. >eBay did remove the complaints to restore his good >record. >Ron Hartman >www.meteorite1.com > Nope. You are wrong on the reason here. There is no way that that could have happened. I dont know details but ebay will not remove feedback for that reason that you were away (After all, he did list an auction so any feedback from it is valid as far as ebay is concerned - you cant receive feedback without listing an auction. Ebay will let you list an auction if you are in africa). They would have removed it for a totally different reason as it violated ebays feedback rules. Ebay has something called "feedback bombing". If somebody leaves 3 or more negative feedbacks for somebody ebay considers it abuse and will remove it. The maximun number of negative feedbacks that you can leave a seller (Or buyer) is two. So since this unnamed person had 5 negatives left to him the negatives were a violation of ebays feedback rules (The " feedback bombing" rule) as so ebay would be willing to remove it - wither they consider it valid or not. Sincerely DEAN > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2001
Hello everybody, Hope all is enjoying the holiday. I imagine someone is gathering a list of Tucson attendees? I am going to fly down on Feb. 5th and will be returning on Feb. 10th. I look foward to meeting all that I was not able to meet at the Denver show. Looks like this first week of Feb. is the week most meteorite sellers and buyer will be there and the time most of the meteorite activities will happen. I hope that everybody that has a chance to fly or drive down can make it. Even during the down week of the terrorist strike the Denver show was a lot of fun. Happy New Year all! Drive safe tonight! Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" Can we get a lrolecall of others going to the show?
[meteorite-list] AD;NWA032 Auction Ending (and others)
Hello All: I have about 30 auctions ending in a mere 6 to 9 hours...many meteorites and many fossils and a few insect specimens too!!! NICE SLICE of NWA032 is ending and weighs .118 grams and is at $90.00 (there is a reserve and it is VERY LOW...to see this auction go to; http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1051731660 You can check out ALL THE auctions by going to; http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user [EMAIL PROTECTED]&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 Thank you and Happy New Year! Jake Jake Delgaudio The Nature Source Meteorites and Fossils Queensbury, NEW YORK 12804 website: www.nature-source.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(518) 761-6702 Fax; (518) 798-9107 Proud member of: The Meteoritical Society and The Paleontological Suppliers of America Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auctions ending in
The link in the prior e-mail was wrong (thanks to Ken for let me know this! ) Here is it again http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=meteorites. com Eduardo - Original Message - From: rockhoundm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auctions ending in > Hi > Our last auction of 2001 is ending tomorrow. > Lots of great stuff, several with $1 base. > Some specimens are: Zagami, El Sampal, Smara, Ouzina, Sprigwater, Covert, > Ningqiang, Tissemoumine, Balcarce, Millbillillie, Igdi, Murchison, Canyon > Diablo, Tatahouine, Norton County and much more!. > A great variety of Irons, Chondrites, Mesosiderites, Pallasites, Diogenites, > Aubrites, Martians, Acapulcoites, Rumuritiites to choose. > Just look for user id. meteorites.com or follow this link: > http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=meteorites. > com > > Hope to see you there > > Eduardo > > > Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-71 56648 > ___ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
