date:20041206

Hi everyone, I have another clean-out-the-collection sale on eBay.
Every year around the holidays I load a lot of collection meteorites on
eBay.
I have so much that I have to thin out the collection a little.
I have loaded over 60 meteorites on eBay ending tonight.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2291946404
Here is one of the top flight-oriented meteorites I have ever seen. Same
shape as Lafayette.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288804314
Large complete slice of NWA 1941. Beautiful cheap display piece.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288797977
$3000 piece of NWA 2085, impact-melt breccia similar to Cat Mountain.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288999360
Main mass of the Salar de Imilac meteorite from Chile!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288800398
Yet another stunning flight-oriented meteorite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288794073
Here is the big one, a 1.2 kilo NWA 978. R3.8. I got this one last year, the
main mass
of this rarest of rare meteorites. This is a $8000-$10,000 piece!
UP FOR ONE CENT.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2289035098
Sikhote-Alin Bullet. See the photos, you will know what I mean.
Over $15,000 to $20,000 in meteorites up for one cent.
Good luck, and make sure to see the others, with 60 items, there is alot of
rare stuff in there.
Michael Farmer
See the whole list at the links below.
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewUserPage&userid=meteoritehunters
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=meteorite-hunter

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] attachments

2004-12-06 Thread joseph_town

Hi all,

Is it against list policy to include an attachment with a post? I know I could 
look this up, please excuse my shiftlessness,

Best regards,

Bill

 
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY

I agree. Jerry Flahery
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

It is normal in scientific writing to use the 0 before the decimal point. 
Ask any mathematician or scientist involved in the physical sciences.  It 
is good for all of us  to show that we are scientifically literate. We 
make an impression that is judged by  professional meteoriticists and it 
should be that we are knowledgeable about these things. : =)

Ron Hartman
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Al Mahbas, last update.

After the fourth update of my webpage replacing sold pieces,
This is it, the nicest pieces have all been listed, I only have a few 
smaller pieces left to polish once these are gone.
Get them now, or wish you had one.
Mike Farmer
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/AlMahbas.htm 

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread Nicholas Gessler

Yes, in the US a "0" should precede the decimal point.  Precisely so the 
decimal point won't be missed.
And the sooner we switch to metric the better, unless you like to divide 
and multiply by 12, 14, 16, 3, 36, 5270, and the like.
Or like to add 13/16, 5/8, 45/64 and 1/7...
Dividing and multiplying by 10 is a lot easier: just move the decimal.

;-)
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Hartman

It is normal in scientific writing to use the 0 before the decimal point. 
Ask any mathematician or scientist involved in the physical sciences.  It is 
good for all of us  to show that we are scientifically literate. We make an 
impression that is judged by  professional meteoriticists and it should be 
that we are knowledgeable about these things. : =)

Ron Hartman
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Yoer opinion needed, please

2004-12-06 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson

Hello List, I have been looking at all my meteorites looking at the crusts.
This stone I found has the best possible crust I have ever seen on a rock.
But, I was not convinced, I thought I would take it to Tucson ( if the good
lord gives me a way to go). But I was looking at it tonight and noticed
something weird, at least for a rock (as far as I know).  In the first pic
there is a break in the upper right hand corner. I was looking at it
carefully and noticed what looks like a roll over rim!!! (second pic). This
whole area was covered in caliche so it was hard to see. what do you all
think?  Has anyone seen a roll over rim on a rock?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0151.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0154.jpg

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Big Kansas chondrite

Hi Bob,

You asked of Jason:
> ... does your dad still have that stone?

I'm sure he does.

> If he does, would you care to share a picture of it with the list?

I think I took a picture or two of that puppy while Jason and
I were out at Lucerne -- I'll have to check my home computer.

--Rob
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] The Meteorite Kid

Hi John, Jason and List,

John asked of Jason (aka "The Kid"):

> Jason,
> We met last year in Tucson. It was Sunday morning over at the Meteorite
> Man's room...the day you and your partner loaded that big chondrite into
> a small car going west.  Did Rob ever give that thing up?Anyway...

I got to be a foster parent for a week or two, which was fun.  That
Kansas chondrite was enormous!  (The car actually wasn't ~that~ small --
Nissan Pathfinder).  That specimen got to visit a couple famous meteorite
recovery locations (Franconia, Lucerne Valley) before eventually getting
returned to its new owner.

> John's advice:  Enjoy being the Kid...it goes fast.

While Jason may be "a kid," he's probably one of the most successful
meteorite hunters (if not THE most) under the age of 16, and certainly
one of the more knowledgeable collectors and meteorite afficionados
of any age.

Cheers,
Rob

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread Comcast Mail

Yeah,

I remember that day. I was there with Peter Utas when he bought that stone.
Bob Haag had this huge incredible 62 LB oriented ( with lipping ) meteorite
on display in his room. If I can remember. it was found in Kansas.
Peter wrote a check on the spot. If he didnt I would have. It was very well
priced.

Jason , does your dad still have that stone?
If he does, would you care to share a picture of it with the list?

Thanks
Bob Evans



- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites


> Jason,
>
> We met last year in Tucson. It was Sunday morning over at the Meteorite
Man's room...the day you and your partner loaded that big chondrite into a
small car going west.  Did Rob ever give that thing up?Anyway...
>
> Advice:  Enjoy being the Kid...it goes fast.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -- Original message from Jason Utas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: --
>
>
> > Hello Rob and All,
> > In Response to this:
> >
> > >> "The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was
> > >> fallen..."
> > ...
> > > it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?)
> > >Rob [Matson]
> >
> > A mesosiderite or pallasite seems pretty improbable -- if the density
> > of iron is 7.874g/cm^3,
> > then either this meteorite has verrry little iron in it and is a stony
> > or it's made of half iron and half air (or some other nearly
> > weightless substance [yeah right]).
> >
> > The Kid
> > __
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread j . divelbiss

Jason,

We met last year in Tucson. It was Sunday morning over at the Meteorite Man's 
room...the day you and your partner loaded that big chondrite into a small car 
going west.  Did Rob ever give that thing up?Anyway...

Advice:  Enjoy being the Kid...it goes fast.

John




-- Original message from Jason Utas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
-- 


> Hello Rob and All, 
> In Response to this: 
> 
> >> "The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was 
> >> fallen..." 
> ... 
> > it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?) 
> >Rob [Matson] 
> 
> A mesosiderite or pallasite seems pretty improbable -- if the density 
> of iron is 7.874g/cm^3, 
> then either this meteorite has verrry little iron in it and is a stony 
> or it's made of half iron and half air (or some other nearly 
> weightless substance [yeah right]). 
> 
> The Kid 
> __ 
> Meteorite-list mailing list 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread David Freeman

Dear List;
I need to make point clear...99 percent of my BUYING PUBLIC are located 
in the US of A.  Those fraudulent spamers and non buying surfers that 
waste time are normally from foreign countries.  So to discourage those 
that are not really purchasing, I put my descriptions in numerical form 
that my buyers can readily recognize.  Yes, I realize that science is in 
decimals and grams but again, those that are my predominant source of my 
income really appreciate my putting inches in inches so they can know 
what in heck they are looking at.  I have never had any complaints from 
anyone over my choice of inches, feet, ounces and pounds and have over 
600 auctions with 100% feed back.  So, my buying public is very happy 
and many many are repeat customers.  For those that are piddling around 
my auctions and want decimals and grams (I do weigh my meteorites and 
fulgerites in grams as that is the industry standard) I do answer 
questions.   When I drove my camaro car, I did not use KPH, when I ride 
my 4 wheeler, I do not search for a mm wrench but use a crescent 
wrench.so why  do we mess with metric when I am not in a metric 
oriented ...or orientated market?
Sincerely and from Wyoming (heart of red country, jesus land) where we 
measure in inches and miles and  barrels of oil, and cubic feet of gas, 
and  tons of ore, and pounds of beef, where's the beef?
Dave F.

Meteoryt.net wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When I write my auctions, anything in parts less than a whole as in
inches and in grams and in ounces;  I use a fraction written out so no
one that knows less can not mistake my intent...1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 3/4
inches, ounces, gramssaves that uncomfortable circumstance for those
who can't figure out the . from the ,   ok?
Heh I dont want start complain about auctions where weigh is in pounds or
dimmensions in inches when seller sell item worldwide.
How this will look, if I will start writing my auction description in polish
language on US ebay ?
:-)))
Yes this should be funny for a moment.
-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]



__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers


- Original Message - 
From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When I write my auctions, anything in parts less than a whole as in
> inches and in grams and in ounces;  I use a fraction written out so no
> one that knows less can not mistake my intent...1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 3/4
> inches, ounces, gramssaves that uncomfortable circumstance for those
> who can't figure out the . from the ,   ok?

Heh I dont want start complain about auctions where weigh is in pounds or
dimmensions in inches when seller sell item worldwide.
How this will look, if I will start writing my auction description in polish
language on US ebay ?
:-)))
Yes this should be funny for a moment.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]




__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

> Anytime there is a number on the right side of the decimal its a fraction
of
> whatever unit.
> For most people the 0 on the left of the decimal isn't necessary

For me its verry nessesery. This is how I was learned in shool.
.9g and 0.9g looks verry different.
The same as 9.0g and 90g looks diferent or 120g and 12g.
0.9 is a concrete number, but for me not exist in mathematic something like
".9"

Ofcourse now I know that .9 mean 0.9gram. But puting this small "0" take
really that big ammount of time ?
I can understand that this is something like English must drive on left side
of road when everyone driving on right.
:)

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread David Freeman

When I write my auctions, anything in parts less than a whole as in 
inches and in grams and in ounces;  I use a fraction written out so no 
one that knows less can not mistake my intent...1/2, 1/4, 1/3, 3/4 
inches, ounces, gramssaves that uncomfortable circumstance for those 
who can't figure out the . from the ,   ok?
Dave F.
mjwy

Meteoryt.net wrote:

Hi Mike,
It is customary in British/European reports to use periods
instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers.  So
while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this
case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg).
If we talking just about numbers I have different category question, mainly
to US people.
Something what make me always angry when I see it on eBay becouse this make
for me misunderstanding of what seller want to sell.
I talking about WHY some of You write ".5g" when normally this should be
"0.5g" 
This is any "slang" or You alvays write this also in official documents 
Becouse this damn DOT is too little too see it on first reading.
Im just curious why You not write this zero :))
PS. I usually see it on Mike and Hupes auctions, and maybe others too (now
cant find it), so this is any US language rule or what ?
-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

2004-12-06 Thread Comcast Mail

Anytime there is a number on the right side of the decimal its a fraction of
whatever unit.
For most people the 0 on the left of the decimal isn't necessary

BE
- Original Message -
From: Meteoryt.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Meteorite Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers


>
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > It is customary in British/European reports to use periods
> > instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers.  So
> > while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this
> > case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg).
>
> If we talking just about numbers I have different category question,
mainly
> to US people.
> Something what make me always angry when I see it on eBay becouse this
make
> for me misunderstanding of what seller want to sell.
> I talking about WHY some of You write ".5g" when normally this should be
> "0.5g" 
> This is any "slang" or You alvays write this also in official documents

> Becouse this damn DOT is too little too see it on first reading.
> Im just curious why You not write this zero :))
>
> PS. I usually see it on Mike and Hupes auctions, and maybe others too (now
> cant find it), so this is any US language rule or what ?
>
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
> [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>
>
>
>
>
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers



> Hi Mike,
>
> It is customary in British/European reports to use periods
> instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers.  So
> while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this
> case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg).

If we talking just about numbers I have different category question, mainly
to US people.
Something what make me always angry when I see it on eBay becouse this make
for me misunderstanding of what seller want to sell.
I talking about WHY some of You write ".5g" when normally this should be
"0.5g" 
This is any "slang" or You alvays write this also in official documents 
Becouse this damn DOT is too little too see it on first reading.
Im just curious why You not write this zero :))

PS. I usually see it on Mike and Hupes auctions, and maybe others too (now
cant find it), so this is any US language rule or what ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]





__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Question -Sri Lankan density

Makes a little possibility that he has a nuclear powered scale to get 
milligrams when weighing a 47 kg object:)

Careless me,,,they would only be grams

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Al Mahbas Pallasite

WOW, talk about fast response, are you people sitting at your computers 
waiting for sales?
I have sold almost all on my first listing, so I have got another batch of 
pieces ready to go up in about an hour.
Get ready, this will be about it, the other pieces after this next listing 
are all really small, or just shale without crystals.
Mike Farmer
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/AlMahbas.htm

By the way, a question for Dr. Jeff Grossman, is that fact that I went to 
the site, have video of finding pieces, and publicly announcing the 
coordinates enough to get it named Al Mahbas?
I hope so, because I spent a lot of time, money and risk to get that data.
Mike 

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated

2004-12-06 Thread Jonathan Gore

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So would the opposite be occidented or occidentated?
It seems to me that the antonym is unoriented for oriented *and* 
orientated, since I can't find "unorientated" in any dictionary.

Clear skies,
Jonathan
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] RE: Dronino rusting

- Original Message - 
From: "Jörn Koblitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2. the SECOND best solution is to draw the salts out of the cracks by
applying electrolysis using KOH or NaOH solution (electrochemical cleaning).
This technique is well established and described in detail here:
http://nautarch.tamu.edu/class/anth605/File10a.htm#ELECTROCHEMICAL

Hello
This is my verry first test of electro-chemical cleaning.
I cleaned cuted specimen of Dronino around 700g. It was cleaned for 24 hours
in Water+ NaOH solution, but verry good cleaning results I see after
12hours.
So here is photos.
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/dronino_1.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/dronino_2.jpg

I not use hammer or iron brush on this surface. All rust disapear

Next object will be oriented Taza

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Question -Sri Lankan density

Hola Herbert and others interested,

Thanks for the very kind words.  I actually received a couple of emailed 
questions on this (one naughty and one nice) from other list members so instead 
of answering individually it is probably worth taking a moment to post what you 
already knew if you won't mind, in order to clarify why the units in specific 
gravity "don't matter for list purposes".  That was probably a tiny 
overstatement on my part and I probably should have just said if one is 
somewhere in the neighborhood of ambient earthly conditions and comfortable 
using grams and cubic centimetres (=millilitres).  Here is an illustrated 
example to save some further bandwidth:

water density is: 
=1.000 grams per cubic centimetre
=1000 grams per cubic metre
=0.578 ounces per cubic inch
=62.4 pounds per cubic foot

but specific gravity for water is still a unitless 1.000 in humane ("somewhat 
standard")conditions.

An iron meteorite has, say, has the following equivalent densities:
=7.8 grams per cubic centimetre
=7800 grams per cubic metre
=4.5 ounces per cubic inch
=486 pounds per cubic foot

but specific gravity for the iron meteorite is still a unitless 7.8 in humane 
conditions.

And if you like unwieldy units of ounces and inches, you can get back to 
specific gravity by dividing:

(4.5 ounces/in3) / (0.578 ounces/in3)

The units cancel and you get a not so surprising 7.8...
So it is no wonder why they are always being mixed up.  In outer space ice 
probably has a density much closer to 0.917, and the meteorite probably 
wouldn't change much at all, so a geologist who hypothetically was floating in 
a mixed meteoroid stream might do some fancy things with a bucket of creatively 
crushed ice to "dunk" meteoroids in it to measure their density, so the same 
iron now meteoroid, would come out to have a specific gravity of 8.5 using 
water at frozen temperatures.  But that is silly, the specific gravity business 
is most meaningful for geologists as a quick and dirty measurement in the field 
or perhaps precisely, in a comfortable laboratory, so while I don't know why it 
might be needed below freezing reference temperatures, nor whether the 
"definition" excludes solid ice as silly, perhaps a case could be invented to 
have fun with specific gravity and g per mL being different.  Like maybe 
something to do with research on the formation of the dirty snowball in a 
rotating granular comet.  Heck that is a wild stab at it, so back to the 
original point, specific gravity and g/cc (=g/mL, = kg/L) are the same for list 
purposes with the one exception that choice of exotic measurement units will 
not affect the specific gravity.  Now all we need is to be sure the Sri Lankan 
professor didn't mix up the terms as well,,,but I suppose that is the least of 
the questions right now about that decimal/comma deal,,,I agree with Rob on 
that one, but I checked the classified in the Sri Lankan newspaper and they 
seemed to be using the US convention at least there.  Makes a little 
possibility that he has a nuclear powered scale to get milligrams when weighing 
a 47 kg object:)

Saludos, Doug


Herbert wrote in the most friendly manner:

Doug,
yes, indeed, I wrote my message carelessly. I mixed up "density" (which has a 
unit) with "specific gravity", which has, as you correctly stated, no units. I 
promise to use my brain *before* I complain next time... :-)
Greetings,
Herbert
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated

2004-12-06 Thread joseph_town

So would the opposite be occidented or occidentated?

Bill


 -- Original message --
From: Jörn Koblitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A google search yielded roughly 15 times as many hits for "oriented" 
> (24.900.000) than for "orientated" (1.480.000). Both are adjectives according 
> to 
> my online dictionary. 
> 
> May be one hint: I found "orientated" only used in the sense of being 
> "focused" 
> (e.g. market-orientated, customer-orientated, also, market-oriented, 
> customer-oriented), but I could not find "orientated" in the sense of 
> something 
> being "physically aligned" (e.g. there is a term "grain-oriented electrical 
> sheet", but not grain-orientated electrical sheet").
> 
> I have the impressed that both terms are correct, but that "orientated" 
> simply 
> isn't used very often.
> 
> Jörn
> 
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Montag, 6. Dezember 2004 17:45
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks for all the replies. I think I may have the answer.
> > > I think it depends on whether or not you are using the
> > > word as an adjective, noun, or verb.
> > 
> > Hello Robert and List,
> > 
> > Here are some further examples from my databases:
> > 
> > 1) Borkut: "Elliptical chondrules are orientated" (Catalogue 
> > of Meteorites)
> > 
> > 2) Canyon City: "The individual 50-100 µ wide alpha-grains of 
> > the fields
> >are differently orientated  ..." - BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of
> >Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 380-381)
> > 
> > 3) DaG 995: "plagioclase contains small crystallographically 
> > orientated
> >inclusions of augite (Met.Bull. 87, 2003 July, p. A194)
> > 
> > 4) El Carmen: "A single, orientated mass weighing 629 g was found ..."
> >(Meteoritics, 1988, 23, p.171)
> > 
> > 5) Lone Tree: "An orientated, ... mass of 20.676 kg was ploughed up"
> >(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> > 
> > 6) Mount Margaret: "A single, flight orientated stone was found ..."
> >(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> > 
> > 7) A. Fujimura, M. Kato et al. (1983) Preferred orientation 
> > of phyllosilicate
> >(001) in matrix of Murchison meteorite and possible mechanisms of
> >generating the orientated texture in chondrites.
> >(Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 66, 25-32)
> > 
> > 8) Summerfield: "A single orientated stone of 6.2 kg was found ..."
> >(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> > 
> > 9) Waka: "A single, orientated mass weighing 11.875 kg was found ..."
> >(Met.Bull. 66, Jun 1988, Meteoritics 23-2, 1988, p.173).
> > 
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Bernd
> > 
> > __
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> > 
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Al Mahbas Pallasite for sale.

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/AlMahbas.htm
I am putting the Al Mahbas Pallasite up for sale today, as I am off to Japan 
next week and want people to get them before the holidays.
This is the Pallasite which I had such problems getting last week.
It is under classification, but I will sell now as it might take some time 
to finish the lab work.
I am proposing the Name AL Mahbas since I went to the find site personally 
and found pieces myself.

There is almost nothing available.
Less than 600 grams in dealers hands, the rest in Morocco is mostly tiny 
pieces of shale, worthless to collectors.

Buy today, and I can ship with any eBay auctions you win tonight.
Mike Farmer 

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Re: Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

Not according to that walnut sized piece the photos show.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Michael Farmer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite Mailing 
List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

Hi Mike,
It is customary in British/European reports to use periods
instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers.  So
while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this
case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg).
--Rob
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
Farmer
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:01 PM
To: Ron Baalke; Meteorite Mailing List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka
A, I thought it was 47 KILOGRAMS, it is only 47 grams.
No one could have seen a 47 gram iron falling trailing smoke, since the
smoke would have stopped miles in the air.
Forget about this one, sounds like BS to me .
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka

http://www.dailynews.lk/2004/12/07/new12.html
Meteorite lands in Polonnaruwa
by Manjula Fernando
Daily News (Sri Lanka)
December 7, 2004
Further studies are being conducted into the fallen meteorite found at
the Sankabodhi Viharaya, Polonnaruwa by the Arthur C Clarke Institute
for Modern Technologies to find its definite origin.
The tests are to determine whether the object which shows certain
magnetic qualities, is from the asteroid belt, inner solar system or
outside the solar system, Dr. Chandana Jayaratne said.
This asteroid which fell to the Sankabodi Viharaya on November 27,
creating a fissure 3.6 cm in length, 3.3 cm in width and 3 cm in depth
has now been confirmed to be a rare type iron meteorite by the Arthur C
Clarke Institute for Modern Technologies after an X-Ray Fluorescence
Spectrometry analysis and several other tests, Dr. Jayaratne said.
A resident monk has seen a blue smoke tail when it came down. According
to eye witnesses the object was shining metallic blue but within 24
hours it has turned brownish black due to oxidation after contact with
oxygen in the earth's atmosphere.
The meteorite weighing 47.015 grms. consists of elements Ti, Cr, Mn, Fe
and Zn and was the first outer space object to be tested since the
setting up of the meteorite testing laboratory at the Clarke Institute.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Decimal point vs. comma in numbers

Hi Mike,

It is customary in British/European reports to use periods
instead of commas for easier reading of large numbers.  So
while 47.015 grams means 47.015 grams to you and me, in this
case it should be interpreted as 47,015 grams (47.015 kg).

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
Farmer
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:01 PM
To: Ron Baalke; Meteorite Mailing List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka


A, I thought it was 47 KILOGRAMS, it is only 47 grams.
No one could have seen a 47 gram iron falling trailing smoke, since the 
smoke would have stopped miles in the air.
Forget about this one, sounds like BS to me .
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka


>
>
> http://www.dailynews.lk/2004/12/07/new12.html
>
> Meteorite lands in Polonnaruwa
> by Manjula Fernando
> Daily News (Sri Lanka)
> December 7, 2004
>
> Further studies are being conducted into the fallen meteorite found at
> the Sankabodhi Viharaya, Polonnaruwa by the Arthur C Clarke Institute
> for Modern Technologies to find its definite origin.
>
> The tests are to determine whether the object which shows certain
> magnetic qualities, is from the asteroid belt, inner solar system or
> outside the solar system, Dr. Chandana Jayaratne said.
>
> This asteroid which fell to the Sankabodi Viharaya on November 27,
> creating a fissure 3.6 cm in length, 3.3 cm in width and 3 cm in depth
> has now been confirmed to be a rare type iron meteorite by the Arthur C
> Clarke Institute for Modern Technologies after an X-Ray Fluorescence
> Spectrometry analysis and several other tests, Dr. Jayaratne said.
>
> A resident monk has seen a blue smoke tail when it came down. According
> to eye witnesses the object was shining metallic blue but within 24
> hours it has turned brownish black due to oxidation after contact with
> oxygen in the earth's atmosphere.
>
> The meteorite weighing 47.015 grms. consists of elements Ti, Cr, Mn, Fe
> and Zn and was the first outer space object to be tested since the
> setting up of the meteorite testing laboratory at the Clarke Institute.
>
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> 


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] It's a real Juancheng

2004-12-06 Thread Peanut ..

I know Marcin, Maybe the two are likely paired!

Cj
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka

A, I thought it was 47 KILOGRAMS, it is only 47 grams.
No one could have seen a 47 gram iron falling trailing smoke, since the 
smoke would have stopped miles in the air.
Forget about this one, sounds like BS to me .
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka

http://www.dailynews.lk/2004/12/07/new12.html
Meteorite lands in Polonnaruwa
by Manjula Fernando
Daily News (Sri Lanka)
December 7, 2004
Further studies are being conducted into the fallen meteorite found at
the Sankabodhi Viharaya, Polonnaruwa by the Arthur C Clarke Institute
for Modern Technologies to find its definite origin.
The tests are to determine whether the object which shows certain
magnetic qualities, is from the asteroid belt, inner solar system or
outside the solar system, Dr. Chandana Jayaratne said.
This asteroid which fell to the Sankabodi Viharaya on November 27,
creating a fissure 3.6 cm in length, 3.3 cm in width and 3 cm in depth
has now been confirmed to be a rare type iron meteorite by the Arthur C
Clarke Institute for Modern Technologies after an X-Ray Fluorescence
Spectrometry analysis and several other tests, Dr. Jayaratne said.
A resident monk has seen a blue smoke tail when it came down. According
to eye witnesses the object was shining metallic blue but within 24
hours it has turned brownish black due to oxidation after contact with
oxygen in the earth's atmosphere.
The meteorite weighing 47.015 grms. consists of elements Ti, Cr, Mn, Fe
and Zn and was the first outer space object to be tested since the
setting up of the meteorite testing laboratory at the Clarke Institute.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands in Sri Lanka

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Baalke



http://www.dailynews.lk/2004/12/07/new12.html

Meteorite lands in Polonnaruwa
by Manjula Fernando
Daily News (Sri Lanka)
December 7, 2004

Further studies are being conducted into the fallen meteorite found at
the Sankabodhi Viharaya, Polonnaruwa by the Arthur C Clarke Institute
for Modern Technologies to find its definite origin.

The tests are to determine whether the object which shows certain
magnetic qualities, is from the asteroid belt, inner solar system or
outside the solar system, Dr. Chandana Jayaratne said.

This asteroid which fell to the Sankabodi Viharaya on November 27,
creating a fissure 3.6 cm in length, 3.3 cm in width and 3 cm in depth
has now been confirmed to be a rare type iron meteorite by the Arthur C
Clarke Institute for Modern Technologies after an X-Ray Fluorescence
Spectrometry analysis and several other tests, Dr. Jayaratne said.

A resident monk has seen a blue smoke tail when it came down. According
to eye witnesses the object was shining metallic blue but within 24
hours it has turned brownish black due to oxidation after contact with
oxygen in the earth's atmosphere.

The meteorite weighing 47.015 grms. consists of elements Ti, Cr, Mn, Fe
and Zn and was the first outer space object to be tested since the
setting up of the meteorite testing laboratory at the Clarke Institute.

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

Sorry for my spam, but I send this messages only one time


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

- Original Message - 
From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


>
> > Take a look this ebay auction
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
> >
> > For me is many strange this juancheng...many many
>
> ech no, this should be fake.
> This seller offering another piece as Taza, and botch stones looks
identical
> to me, so how one can be chondrite and another iron ? :))
>
> strange
>
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
> [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Hmmmm....

2004-12-06 Thread harlan trammell

nice paint job on the kat.
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] H >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:12:13 + (GMT Standard Time) > >Seems that one of my cats has decided to move in > >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.harris580/comet1.jpg > > >damn! > > >regs > >dave >IMCA #0092 >Sec. BIMS >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Question -Sri Lankan density

2004-12-06 Thread Herbert Raab



Doug,

yes, indeed, I wrote my message carelessly. I mixed up "density" 
(which has a unit) with "specific gravity", which has, as you correctly 
stated, no units. I promise to use my brain *before* I complain 
next time... :-)

Greetings,
  Herbert

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Fw: Metorite Sale 50% OFF Holiday Sale! BUY IT NOW!

2004-12-06 Thread Michael Cottingham

- Original Message -
From: Michael Cottingham
To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: Metorite Sale 50% OFF Holiday Sale! BUY IT NOW!

Hello, (SALE WILL RUN TODAY and Tuesday).

In my Ebay Store there are over 300 Meteorite specimens and 300 other BUY IT
NOW ITEMS.. Including Meteorite Books, Artifacts, Minerals, and other cool
items that some of you find interesting...

This is my End of the Year 50% Off Blowout Sale!  Go to my Ebay Store. Use
the Buy it now feature. Go to Paypal and do a manual invoice (Ebay will not
let you or me deduct 50% off through their normal system) Deduct 50% , add
the appropiate shipping and Pay. I will also except checks or money orders
for this sale too...but you still have to use the Buy it now feature!)

Go to:

http://www.stores.ebay.com/voyagebotanicanaturalhistory

Some of the pieces with a 50% off will be cheaper then you can find anywhere
else!

Thanks & Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals - follow-up

2004-12-06 Thread fcressy

Hello All,

Listed below are the results of my question about oriented Amgalas. A total
of 31 oriented Amgalas were reported to me (including the 20 from Greg Hupe)
and I found another 4 on a couple of websites. The weights of the
magnificent few are listed below:

651.8 gram
350 gram
260 gram
94.6 gram
69.2 gram
58 gram
54.4 gram
45.6 gram
42.16 gram
33.3 gram
33.18 gram
32.5 gram
23.69 gram
20.7 gram
16.1 gram
15.6 gram
15.37 gram
14.68 gram
13.9 gram
13.9 gram
11.8 gram
11.5 gram
10.2 gram
7.6 gram
7.2 gram
6.8 gram
6.51 gram
6.5 gram
5.7 gram
5.5 gram
4.8 gram
4.4 gram
4.1 gram
2.5 gram
2.4 gram

I also think I remember someone referring to about a one kilo oriented
individual a few months back but I couldn't find that post. I'm sure that
there are more oriented individuals out there, but I suspect that it's not a
great number.

Cheers,
Frank





- Original Message -
From: fcressy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Meteorite List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:33 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals


> Hello all,
>
> Todays "Rocks From Space Picture of the Day" of the oriented Amgala
> individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of
"Meteorite"
> magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: "While the Bensour shower was filled with
> wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with
just
> three found to date." Since that time additional Amgala individuals
> obviously have been found and brought to market. As an "oriented Amgala"
> owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out
there.
> So, if you fellow "oriented Amgala owners" out there don't mind sending me
> their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then
report
> to the list.
> As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone.
> Cheers,
> Frank
>
>
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Solar Storms Smack a Comet

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Baalke



http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041206.html

Solar Storms Smack a Comet
By Tariq Malik 
space.com
6 December 2004

Astronomers have pieced together what appears to be the first direct
evidence that solar storms can wreck havoc with comets, destroying the
ion tails of icy wanderers in a collision of highly charged particles. 

But the effect is not permanent and may serve as a marker for scientists
trying to track solar storms known as coronal mass ejections (CMEs) as
they blow out into space.

"What we have now is sort of a new tool of tracking these ejections,"
said Geraint Jones, co-investigator of the comet study and a researcher
at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "It's like dropping paint into a
flowing river of water."

The ion tails of comets constantly stream away from the Sun, pushed back
by solar wind blowing at about 894,774 mph (400 kilometers per second).
But the charged particles of CMEs, among the worst of solar storms, can
slam into a comet's ion tail at about 2.2 million mph (1,000 kilometers
per second), causing kinks, scalloped patterns or disrupting the tail
altogether, Jones' research found. 

"We're still far from having a full understanding of what's going on
[with CMEs]," Jones told SPACE.com.

But by watching comet tail behavior, researchers could learn more about
changes in CME structure and speed as they move through space,
researchers added. 

"When [CMEs] move outward we know there's a lot of change, but that's
it," explained Douglas Biesecker, a physicist with the Space Environment
Center at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
"It would be a little more useful if there were a lot more comets out
there."

The study, conducted by Jones and his colleague John Brandt at the
University of New Mexico, appeared in the online version of the journal
Geophysical Research Letters and will appear in the journal's upcoming
print edition.

Comet distortion

At the heart of Jones' study is the comet 153P/Ikeya-Zhang, which passed
through the inner solar system during spring 2002. 

Jones and Brandt were able to identify specific interactions between
CMEs and Ikeya-Zhang's ion tail by combining data from the
sun-watching NASA/European Space Agency SOHO spacecraft and 
observations collected by amateur astronomers.

CME events recorded by SOHO instruments on March 2, March 9-10 and April
17 appear to have slammed into Ikeya-Zhang's ion tail each about a day
or so after leaving the Sun. None of the CMEs distorted the comet's tail
for more than an hour.

"On their own, the images were fascinating," Jones said. "But it was
only when we put them all together that we saw how the changes were
occurring that we realized what was happening."

Past observations had suggested that CMEs belched from the Sun could
impact a comet's ion tail, including some stunning images
taken by the SOHO spacecraft last year.

During February 2003, SOHO caught the comet C/2002 V1 NEAT swing by the
Sun during a CME event, which researchers believed caused a kink in the
icy wanderer's tail. The catch was a fortunate one, since NEAT's orbit
brought it close to the Sun in astronomical terms, about one-tenth the
distance between the Earth and the star or 0.1 astronomical unit
(AU). One AU is about 93 million miles (150 million kilometers).

But Ikeya-Zhang's closest approach was about five times farther out
at 0.51 AU at a distance where sun-watching spacecraft like SOHO can't see. 

"Our studies have been limited in the past because we're limited to
observations from spacecraft that are just measuring what the solar
activity is near the Sun," Jones said.

Some instruments, such as the Solar Mass Ejection Imager aboard the
Coriolis spacecraft in Earth orbit and the planned
STEREO observatories are seeking a wider view on CMEs, Biesecker added. 

Amateur assets

Part of the success behind the Jones-Brandt study is due to the readily
available network of amateur astronomers from around the world, which
heeded an open call for observations when Ikeya-Zhang swung past the Sun.

"Without the amateur astronomers, this research would not have been
possible," Jones said. "It's a great example of how amateur astronomers
and professionals can work together."

Jones hopes that cooperation will be repeated with a pair of comets that
were observed earlier this year.

"They have more telescope time to themselves then we have sometimes as
professional astronomers," said Biesecker of amateur skywatchers.

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Meteor Explosion Detected Over Australia

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Meteor-lands-with-a-bang/2004/12/06/1102182230350.html

Meteor lands with a bang
By Richard Macey
smh.com.au (Australia)
December 7, 2004

After circling the sun for billions of years it exploded over northern
NSW yesterday with the force of about 500 tonnes of TNT, shaking people
from their sleep and lighting up the pre-dawn sky.

As worried Taree residents phoned police, a shockwave from the meteor's
blast was heard by networks of sensitive microphones set up near Hobart
and Tennant Creek to listen for secret nuclear tests.

"We saw the shockwave for about five minutes," said David Brown, a
scientist from the Federal Government's Geoscience Australia, which runs
the listening posts.

Dr Brown said the data showed that the meteor, travelling west to east,
broke into about five parts high in the sky just north of Taree at 4.18am.

"Any debris would have fallen into the sea," he said, adding that
Geoscience Australia's earthquake monitoring stations did not detect any
ground impact.

Dr Brown said the explosion was probably equal to that of about 500
tonnes of TNT but could have been as big as that of 1000 tonnes.

Graham Bird, of Taree police, was among those who heard the meteor's
arrival. "I certainly woke up," he said. "It sounded like really heavy
thunder."

Police received reports of the blast from Wollongong to Coffs Harbour,
and his own station received about 70 calls, he said.

"We had a few truck drivers say the sky lit up for about four seconds
and that it was like daylight," he said.

The blast woke Warren Burnes, owner of a prawn trawler, who was at home
in Harrington, 40 kilometres north of Taree.

"I thought it was the local petrol station exploding," he said. "It was
very, very loud. I jumped up in bed and looked outside but I saw
nothing. Everyone heard it. It made my sister-in-law's baby cry."

A Manly caller to Angela Catterns's ABC radio program said the jolt
knocked a painting off her wall, smashing the glass. "It scared the
daylights out of me."

Rob McNaught, an astronomer at Siding Spring, near Coonabarabran, said
meteors typically entered the atmosphere at about 20 kilometres a second
and started glowing 90 kilometres up.

The boom heard by residents suggested that yesterday's meteor was less
than 50 kilometres up when it exploded.

If made from stone or iron the meteor was probably at least as big as a
basketball.

Mr McNaught said there was a chance that security cameras in eastern NSW
recorded the fireball, or at least its reflected glow.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated

2004-12-06 Thread Jörn Koblitz

A google search yielded roughly 15 times as many hits for "oriented" 
(24.900.000) than for "orientated" (1.480.000). Both are adjectives according 
to my online dictionary. 

May be one hint: I found "orientated" only used in the sense of being "focused" 
(e.g. market-orientated, customer-orientated, also, market-oriented, 
customer-oriented), but I could not find "orientated" in the sense of something 
being "physically aligned" (e.g. there is a term "grain-oriented electrical 
sheet", but not grain-orientated electrical sheet").

I have the impressed that both terms are correct, but that "orientated" simply 
isn't used very often.

Jörn


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 6. Dezember 2004 17:45
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated
> 
> 
> > Thanks for all the replies. I think I may have the answer.
> > I think it depends on whether or not you are using the
> > word as an adjective, noun, or verb.
> 
> Hello Robert and List,
> 
> Here are some further examples from my databases:
> 
> 1) Borkut: "Elliptical chondrules are orientated" (Catalogue 
> of Meteorites)
> 
> 2) Canyon City: "The individual 50-100 µ wide alpha-grains of 
> the fields
>are differently orientated  ..." - BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of
>Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 380-381)
> 
> 3) DaG 995: "plagioclase contains small crystallographically 
> orientated
>inclusions of augite (Met.Bull. 87, 2003 July, p. A194)
> 
> 4) El Carmen: "A single, orientated mass weighing 629 g was found ..."
>(Meteoritics, 1988, 23, p.171)
> 
> 5) Lone Tree: "An orientated, ... mass of 20.676 kg was ploughed up"
>(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> 
> 6) Mount Margaret: "A single, flight orientated stone was found ..."
>(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> 
> 7) A. Fujimura, M. Kato et al. (1983) Preferred orientation 
> of phyllosilicate
>(001) in matrix of Murchison meteorite and possible mechanisms of
>generating the orientated texture in chondrites.
>(Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 66, 25-32)
> 
> 8) Summerfield: "A single orientated stone of 6.2 kg was found ..."
>(Catalogue of Meteorites)
> 
> 9) Waka: "A single, orientated mass weighing 11.875 kg was found ..."
>(Met.Bull. 66, Jun 1988, Meteoritics 23-2, 1988, p.173).
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Bernd
> 
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> 
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Question -Sri Lankan density

Herbert Raab carelessly wrote:(D

>> Doug wrote from a cold and dreary Mexico:
>>> But, No, the specific gravity has NO units to be 
>>> right or wrong about.

>I need to disagree. The SI unit of density is the
>kilogram per cubic metre (kg/m^3). In these units,
>water has a density of 1,000 kg/m^3, and iron of 
>7,870 kg/m^3. Density is frequently expressed in 
>g/cm^3, however, and expressed in these units, water
>has a density of 1.0 g/cm^3 and iron 7.87 g/cm^3. 
>One might also express the density in ounces per 
>cubic inch (which would certainly a give very 
>different numeric value), or whatever, as long 
>as it's "mass divided by volume".
>Best greetings,
>Herbert

Hola Herbert,
Well if you insist to disagree, would you check with the engineers at Anton 
Paar, the accomplished Austrian company, regarding the definition of specific 
gravity, popular maker of some of the world's most innovative and finest 
density measurement systems.  Austria has always impressed me as a brilliant 
node in physics and instrumentation.  Or maybe your mind just translates 
specific gravity into your language(s) equivalent(s) for density?  The words 
are very different although the pure numbers the same for list purposes.  And 
if you learn something new about specific gravity, you can submit it to the  
Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_density
since they have have a wonderful plain English mineral-geological explanation 
of the why of specific gravity ("Relative Density").
Check also:
http://www.anton-paar.com/ap/apinternet/html/default/fsin-5p3dc9.en.0?bstabe=R

http://www.anton-paar.com/ap/apinternet/html/default/fsin-5p3dc9.en.0?bstabe=R
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated

2004-12-06 Thread bernd . pauli

> Thanks for all the replies. I think I may have the answer.
> I think it depends on whether or not you are using the
> word as an adjective, noun, or verb.

Hello Robert and List,

Here are some further examples from my databases:

1) Borkut: "Elliptical chondrules are orientated" (Catalogue of Meteorites)

2) Canyon City: "The individual 50-100 µ wide alpha-grains of the fields
   are differently orientated  ..." - BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of
   Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 380-381)

3) DaG 995: "plagioclase contains small crystallographically orientated
   inclusions of augite (Met.Bull. 87, 2003 July, p. A194)

4) El Carmen: "A single, orientated mass weighing 629 g was found ..."
   (Meteoritics, 1988, 23, p.171)

5) Lone Tree: "An orientated, ... mass of 20.676 kg was ploughed up"
   (Catalogue of Meteorites)

6) Mount Margaret: "A single, flight orientated stone was found ..."
   (Catalogue of Meteorites)

7) A. Fujimura, M. Kato et al. (1983) Preferred orientation of phyllosilicate
   (001) in matrix of Murchison meteorite and possible mechanisms of
   generating the orientated texture in chondrites.
   (Earth Planet. Sci. Lett. 66, 25-32)

8) Summerfield: "A single orientated stone of 6.2 kg was found ..."
   (Catalogue of Meteorites)

9) Waka: "A single, orientated mass weighing 11.875 kg was found ..."
   (Met.Bull. 66, Jun 1988, Meteoritics 23-2, 1988, p.173).


Best wishes,

Bernd

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] AD-Oriented Amgala individuals ending tonight

2004-12-06 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear list,
Just a quick note to let you know that my Oriented Amgala individuals sale 
will end tonight at 11:00PM EST (USA). At this time or tomorrow, I will 
contact those who have the winning offers. Please see picture and 
description links below in my original post from Thursday the 2nd.

Best regards and good luck,
Greg

Dear Frank and List,
This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my 
collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I 
have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and 
have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along 
with some that have a nice florescent "sheen" on the trailing end. There 
are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the 
black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer.

Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I 
will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will 
review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will 
contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I 
will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your 
offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make 
an offer up until the deadline.

Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an 
offer, they are worth looking at:

33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg
2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg
4.1g 100% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg
5.7g 99% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg
4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg
5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg
2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg
11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg
6.5g 99% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg
7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg
16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg
10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg
13.9g 99% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg
7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg
20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg
54.5g 100% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg
45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg
94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg
58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg
260g 99% crust, lip-over
http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg
Email your highest offers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the weight 
and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the 
highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to 
refuse any offer.

Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
naturesvault (eBay)
- Original Message - 
From: "fcressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals


Hello all,
Todays "Rocks From Space Picture of the Day" of the oriented Amgala
individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of 
"Meteorite"
magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: "While the Bensour shower was filled with
wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with 
just
three found to date." Since that time additional Amgala individuals
obviously have been found and brought to market. As an "oriented Amgala"
owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out 
there.
So, if you fellow "oriented Amgala owners" out there don't mind sending 
me
their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then 
report
to the list.
As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone.
Cheers,
Frank

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread JKGwilliam

Jonathan Gore's response on this issue explains why the word "orientated" 
doesn't seem correct usage with us Americans.  Like Mike and Rob, my brain 
automatically labels it as incorrect when I read it even though it is 
considered interchangeable with "oriented."

JKGwilliam
At 10:33 PM 12/5/2004, Matson, Robert wrote:
Have to agree with Mike on this one -- "orientated" has an awful
sound to it.  I flinch nearly as much when I see that word as I do
reading "proof" when "prove" is meant, and "prove" when "proof" is
meant (how do people confuse the two?)
So that this post is somewhat more meteorite-related, I note (as
I believe another list member did a day or so ago) that something
is wrong with the story about the supposed iron fall in Sri Lanka:
"The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was
fallen..."
Either the specific gravity is wrong (or in unfamiliar units), or
the mass is wrong, or the object isn't an iron meteorite.  I suppose
it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?)
--Rob
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Looking for volunteers

2004-12-06 Thread Bernhard Rems

Hi,

I am looking for volunteers for two sites:

http://www.meteoritenews.com
I need people posting news about meteorites there, like new classifications, 
new falls, links to interesting articles elsewhere.
The only HTML knowledge you need is how to place  and  tags, how to 
place a  tag and how to write a link that opens in a 
new window :-)

http://www.meteoritecollecting.com
I am looking for poeple willing to post articles for beginners and intermediate 
collectors, stories from expeditions, reports from fairs and so on.


If you always wanted to do something productive for the meteorite community on 
the net, here's your chance. Just contact me.


Ah, and all the others, please don't forget to feed meteoritegallery.com with 
your pics and metsale.com with your auctions/sales.

Don't just consume, produce. :-)

--
Liebe Grüße/best regards
Bernhard Rems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] $15, 000 to $20, 000 meteorite sale ending tonight!

Hi everyone, I have another clean-out-the-collection sale on eBay.
Every year around the holidays I load a lot of collection meteorites on 
eBay.
I have so much that I have to thin out the collection a little.

I have loaded over 60 meteorites on eBay ending tonight.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2291946404
Here is one of the top flight-oriented meteorites I have ever seen. Same 
shape as Lafayette.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288804314
Large complete slice of NWA 1941. Beautiful cheap display piece.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288797977
$3000 piece of NWA 2085, impact-melt breccia similar to Cat Mountain.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288999360
Main mass of the Salar de Imilac meteorite from Chile!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288800398
Yet another stunning flight-oriented meteorite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2288794073
Here is the big one, a 1.2 kilo NWA 978. R3.8. I got this one last year, the 
main mass
of this rarest of rare meteorites. This is a $8000-$10,000 piece!
UP FOR ONE CENT.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2289035098
Sikhote-Alin Bullet. See the photos, you will know what I mean.
Over $15,000 to $20,000 in meteorites up for one cent.
Good luck, and make sure to see the others, with 60 items, there is alot of
rare stuff in there.
Michael Farmer
See the whole list at the links below.
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewUserPage&userid=meteoritehunters
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=meteorite-hunter

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Oriented vs orientated

2004-12-06 Thread Robert Woolard

Hello List,

  Thanks for all the replies. I think I may have the
answer. I think it depends on whether or not you are
using the word as an adjective, noun, or verb. See
these examples:

  1. It is an oriented meteorite.
  2. It exhibits orientation.
  3. As it was falling, one side was orientated toward
 the ground.

  So, in most cases that we would see here on the list
or on eBay describing a meteorite with obvious front
and back sides, it seems the correct term would be
oriented, as it would most likely be being used as an
adjective.

  Robert Woolard

  

  




__ 
Do you Yahoo!? 
The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do?
http://my.yahoo.com 
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

NO way jose. I bought some Juancheng recently found, still black fusion 
crust with a lot of oxidation.
This is either not a meteorite, or just an extremely old find.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:55 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

Take a look this ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
For me is many strange this juancheng...many many
Matteo
_
Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! 
http://toolbar.msn.it/

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented SHIELD meteorite, 1,469 grams. Superb

Ill try today.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented SHIELD meteorite, 1,469 grams. Superb

how about snapping a pic of a close up of a few of the flow lines, without 
worrying about retaining the perspective of the full stone? i know it can 
be a pain int he rear but it should be doable

From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "stan ." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented SHIELD meteorite, 1,469 grams. 
Superb
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:28:18 -0700

Stan and everyone, maybe it is. it isn't cut in any way.
It is magnetic though.
IT IS BETTER THAN THE PHOTOS.
Anyone who has tried to take pictures of these stones, showing the whole 
shape, while showing the subtle flow lines, knows that it is nearly 
impossible.
Mike
- Original Message - From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented SHIELD meteorite, 1,469 grams. 
Superb

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2291946404
that is one HECK of an orientated stone... now only if it was a martian 
:)

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende

2004-12-06 Thread Anita Westlake

Hi Walter:
   The Allende that was stolen was special only in the sense that it was my
very first meteorite. It was only about a 5 gram slice, and had one large
light grey chondrule off center. I suspect it was a kid who took it. 
   I wish I had known you were in Atlanta. I would have been happy to
navigate this incredible race track for you! You are right: if you don't go
80mph, you don't survive. 
   Any time any of you find yourselves in Atlanta, let me show you some
"southern hospitality" and my meteorite collection.

Anita D. Westlake


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:41 PM
To: Anita Westlake; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende

Hi Anita and List,

Just got in from a professional conference in Atlanta.  Boy, do I hate
driving in Atlanta.  The posted speed limit on I-85 in downtown is 55 mph
but if you do less than 70 mph you get run over!

Athens, GA?  I spent 4 year there working on a Ph.D. from UGA.  Nice college
town but I am very sorry your Allende was stolen.  I love Allende.  I once
passed around a nice large slice that was inside a Riker box and when it was
returned to me is was broken.  My heart nearly fell out of my chest.

I Recently picked up a beautiful 56 gram King piece from Steve Arnold
(Arkansas) for $2.88/gram. It is a nice chunk of this great meteorite.

On the off chance one of us get offered it for purchase, do you have any
pictures of you Allende?  Was it special or different in any way?

Mark Bostick:  Very nice gesture.  Class all the way!

I need some rest...

-Walter
-
- Original Message - 
From: "Anita Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende


Dear List:
   A few weeks ago I was asked to bring my meteorites to a small gem show in
Athens, GA and talk about them to the wandering public. I made a point to
highlight my Allende specimen because of its age, and told how this small
piece was the catalyst that started my whole collection (and my
fascination).
   Well, I must have been pretty convincing, because when I got home I
realized that someone else had wanted to use my Allende to start their
collection.
   I know I'll get over this feeling of violation and disgust, but I will
always wonder: how can the person who took my specimen ever look at it with
anything other than shame?

Anita D. Westlake


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende

2004-12-06 Thread Anita Westlake

I sure do appreciate all the offers that have come in to replace my stolen 
Allende. You guys are the best. Knowing there is so much love and caring in
the meteorite world, certainly takes some of the sting away!

Anita D. Westlake

-Original Message-
From: GERALD FLAHERTY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:09 PM
To: MARK BOSTICK; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende

Mark, What a nice gesture. I wish I could have made a similar offer but all 
I own is my one peice. Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen Allende


> Hello Anite and list,
>
> Anite wrote: Dear List:  Well, I must have been pretty convincing, because

> when I got home I
> realized that someone else had wanted to use my Allende to start their
> collection.
>
> Sorry to hear about your lost.  My experience with the public...in the 
> education of meteorite...has been rather positive.  Few kidsyoung or 
> old...do not find meteorites of interest.  We won't talk about the 600-700

> meteor-wrongs I have suffled through..:-)
>
> Perhaps you would like me replace your missing Allende specimen with a 
> piece from the Elbert King collection.  I understand our first meteorite 
> is somewhat dear and while I can not replace it, I can provide you...free 
> of charge...a nice (fresh) representive specimen in which hopefully, you 
> would continue taking it to Gem shows.
>
> Just e-mail your address off list,
>
> Clear Skies,
> Mark Bostick
> www.meteoritearticles.com
>
>
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> 


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

ech no, this should be fake.
This seller offering another piece as Taza, and botch stones looks identical
to me, so how one can be chondrite and another iron ? :))

strange

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

ech no, this should be fake.
This seller offering another piece as Taza, and botch stones looks identical
to me, so how one can be chondrite and another iron ? :))

strange

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

ech no, this should be fake.
This seller offering another piece as Taza, and botch stones looks identical
to me, so how one can be chondrite and another iron ? :))

strange

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

ech no, this should be fake.
This seller offering another piece as Taza, and botch stones looks identical
to me, so how one can be chondrite and another iron ? :))

strange

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

Hmm, for 60% looks like meteorite. But Juancheng ? maybe any new find,
weathered ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

Hmm, for 60% looks like meteorite. But Juancheng ? maybe any new find,
weathered ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

Hmm, for 60% looks like meteorite. But Juancheng ? maybe any new find,
weathered ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

> Take a look this ebay auction
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
>
> For me is many strange this juancheng...many many

Hmm, for 60% looks like meteorite. But Juancheng ? maybe any new find,
weathered ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ]

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Re: Question -Sri Lankan density

2004-12-06 Thread Herbert Raab


> But, No, the specific gravity has NO units to be right or wrong about.

I need to disagree. The SI unit of density is the kilogram per cubic
metre (kg/m^3). In these units, water has a density of 1,000 kg/m^3,
and iron of 7,870 kg/m^3. Density is frequently expressed in g/cm^3,
however, and expressed in these units, water has a density of 1.0 g/cm^3
and iron 7.87 g/cm^3. One might also express the density in ounces per
cubic inch (which would certainly a give very different numeric value),
or whatever, as long as it's "mass divided by volume".

Best greetings,
  Herbert




__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

2004-12-06 Thread Göran Axelsson

Last week he had an uncut martian meteorite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2288601328&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
I would not trust this seller for anything concerning expensive meteorites.
H, he claimes that the martian meteorite were acquired together
with some Taza meteorites in 1968. But Taza was discovered in 2001.
It puts a rather big dent in his credibility.
  :-)
/Göran
Rob Wesel wrote:
It's a real Wrongcheng
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971

- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:55 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?


Take a look this ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
For me is many strange this juancheng...many many
Matteo
_
Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! 
http://toolbar.msn.it/

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread Jason Utas

Hello All,
Well, Lets see...
O. Richard Norton refers to Adamana as "oriented" in "Rocks From
Space." (2nd edition).
H. H. Nininger refers to Glen Rose as "oriented" in "Find a Falling Star."
and lastly,
Vagn F. Buchwald refers to Cabin Creek in his "Handbook of Iron Meteorites" 
(book 2, meteorites A-M) as an "oriented fall."
Orientated doesn't look like too good a choice for describing any
meteorites at this point.

-The Kid.
14 yrs old if ne1 needs 2 no.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread Comcast Mail

Well,

The Orientated form should only be used in the word "Orientation ".I dont
think Orientated is even a word. Even though a few on the list use that form

Oriented is the proper way to describe a meteorite that had a stablized
flight path.

Just my 2 cents

Bob E
- Original Message -
From: Robert Woolard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites


> Hello List and Mike,
>
> Mike just posted this a short while ago:
>
> *
>
>   " Subject: Oriented meteorite listed now.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2291946404
>
>
>   Here it is, just loaded.
> Mike  "
>
>  
>
>   First of all.. WOW!! Awesome specimen, Mike!
>
>   Secondly, this is a good time to ask a question that
> I've wondered about now and then. I, too would have
> used the exact word " oriented " to describe this
> stone, and I know that is correct. But I often see
> other list members using the term "orientated" (with
> an extra "-at-"in the word). So my question is: Are
> both terms proper, or is "oriented" the ONLY correct
> term to use to describe such a meteorite as this?
>
>   Thanks for any help with this question,
>
>   Robert Woolard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
> http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
> __
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] cool pix

2004-12-06 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson

Hello List,  My daughter got a Nikon cool pix 2200 for her birthday and I am
hear to say that all this talk about cool pix being so good for meteorite
photos is true I love that thing and I am glad I raised my daughter to
share

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread MarkF

Hi Mike
What can you say, its British and sits right in there with marmite (a 
disgusting substance) and loo (term for toilet).

Mark
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Birdsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

H, I hate to be proven wrong, but if the shoe fits To me though, 
that word sounds absolutely stupid.
I'll stick with oriented.
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "John Birdsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

Hello allI would have thought that Bob and Mike were right on this, 
but I was surprised to find the word "orientated" in Webster's New 
Unabridged Dictionary, being defined as being synonymous with "oriented".

Cheers
-John
Michael Farmer wrote:
Robert, there is no such word as orientated. I have seen it too, never 
knew where people got that word from.
Mike
- Original Message - From: "Robert Woolard" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

Hello List and Mike,
   Mike just posted this a short while ago:
   *
 " Subject: Oriented meteorite listed now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2291946404
 Here it is, just loaded.
   Mike  "

 First of all.. WOW!! Awesome specimen, Mike!
 Secondly, this is a good time to ask a question that
I've wondered about now and then. I, too would have
used the exact word " oriented " to describe this
stone, and I know that is correct. But I often see
other list members using the term "orientated" (with
an extra "-at-"in the word). So my question is: Are
both terms proper, or is "oriented" the ONLY correct
term to use to describe such a meteorite as this?
 Thanks for any help with this question,
 Robert Woolard

__
Do you Yahoo!?
Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list 
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

2004-12-06 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite

Take a look this ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
For me is many strange this juancheng...many many
Matteo
_
Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! 
http://toolbar.msn.it/

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

2004-12-06 Thread Rob Wesel

It's a real Wrongcheng
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971

- Original Message - 
From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:55 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Its a real Juancheng?

Take a look this ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2292198685&rd=1
For me is many strange this juancheng...many many
Matteo
_
Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! 
http://toolbar.msn.it/

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Orientated.

2004-12-06 Thread McCartney Taylor

Hate to bust everyone's bubble, but orientated is a word.  But I don't 
think you mean to use it. 

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=orientated

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

Have to agree with Mike on this one -- "orientated" has an awful
sound to it.  I flinch nearly as much when I see that word as I do
reading "proof" when "prove" is meant, and "prove" when "proof" is
meant (how do people confuse the two?)

So that this post is somewhat more meteorite-related, I note (as
I believe another list member did a day or so ago) that something
is wrong with the story about the supposed iron fall in Sri Lanka:

"The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was
fallen..."

Either the specific gravity is wrong (or in unfamiliar units), or
the mass is wrong, or the object isn't an iron meteorite.  I suppose
it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?)

--Rob
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] "f" instead of "s" - 1770'sstyle

2004-12-06 Thread joseph_town

Ok Doug,

That's clear enough.

Thanks,

Bill


 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hola Bill,
> 
> I had promised some creative writing to relax from some of the recent terror 
> on 
> the list, in part upon your kind prodding, so please don't be maddened, as I 
> am 
> just trying to hold my word the best I know how.  Sufistically speaking, my 
> Tasawwuf and your Baatinic reaction would determine the fitting meaning you 
> seek 
> I should contemplate for you, whether it be the amicable chit-chat for which 
> I 
> hoped, a suspiciously erroneous spelling of congratulations, or a unreal 
> psychophysiological fantasia founded by an aneurystic anomoly. No, I take 
> that 
> back, I cannot be at peace offering the latter tonight.  It is just for you 
> to 
> decide within the guidelines of the true Fuqaha and I will of course must 
> accept 
> gracefully relinquishing takabbur.  Does this orientated but very well 
> intentioned technobabble help?  I will immediately stop my creative writing 
> as 
> the list seems open for business as usual for the swap meet and challenging 
> linguistically of late, and other nice things, with a notable absense of the 
> other stuff.
> 
> Salutations, Doug
> 
> En un mensaje con fecha 12/06/2004 12:57:34 AM Mexico Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
> Doug,
> 
> I try to understand what you say but how does confabulations translate into 
> the 
> point you're making? I've read it several times and I just don't get it. The 
> other variations make sense.
> 
> Bill
> 


__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Question about oriented meteorites

2004-12-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, Jason, and All,

Half right. Way too light to be iron, but way too heavy to be stone
(with densities generally below 3). But if you mix roughly equal volumes
of iron (at 7-8) with stone (at 3 or so), you get an object in the 4.5 to
5.5 density range. Good examples are the Earth or the planet Mercury, or
on a smaller scale, a stoney-iron meteorite!
On the other hand, one should never accept a reporter's word on math
or meteorites at face value.

Sterling K. Webb
---

Jason Utas wrote:

> Hello Rob and All,
> In Response to this:
>
> >> "The object weighing 47.015 kg with a 4.75 specific gravity was
> >> fallen..."
> ...
> > it could still be another type of meteorite (meso or pallasite?)
> >Rob [Matson]
>
> A mesosiderite or pallasite seems pretty improbable -- if the density
> of iron is 7.874g/cm^3,
> then either this meteorite has verrry little iron in it and is a stony
> or it's made of half iron and half air (or some other nearly
> weightless substance [yeah right]).
>
> The Kid

__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] "f" instead of "s" - 1770'sstyle