Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
Yes, junk, magnifying glasses, acrylic boxes, Omani money (but getting it at the exact exchange rate in middle America is probably not possible.), nesting boxes, mounting adhesive, and other stuff along with these rocks. If you don’t want them, then fine I won’t send you a sample, the rest of my stuff is going to the local high school along with some 100g Dhofar (محافطة ظفار) samples. I realize the person writing under the pseudonym “Tony Balogne” is likely not the persons real name. Have a great day, Rob From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:22 PM To: Rob Holcomb Cc: Tony Balogne; met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Your "meteorite junk"? That doesn't inspire confidence in what you are selling:) I merely pointed out that you were offering currency at a much higher rate than it is worth on the official exchange market. I was talking to Tony Balogne, not you. Do you think that is a real person? Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: Ok, $80. As for the rocks from Oman, They are in a box and I can photograph them, but I know all you cynics would just bah-humbug the pictures. So I’ll ship a sample to anyone that wants a look at what I have in my box. Michael, Of course you haven’t heard of me, I don’t know you either. I’m not a professional meteorite hunter, and I’d guess there are other people on this list that aren’t professional meteorite hunters also. I will also go out on a limb and say there are MANY meteorite experts who have nothing to do with this list. I find many comments on here snarky and unfriendly, chasing away many who might be interested in this topic. I plan to unsubscribe and just wanted to clear out my meteorite junk before I did. Rob H. From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:58 PM To: Tony Balogne Cc: Rob Holcomb; met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Tony Balogne. So who are you? Clearly an alias of someone. I've been dealing meteorites 16 years and never heard of you. I have kilos now:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Tony Balogne wrote: LOL, now that is funny! I'll have almost 2 kilos within a months time if Arnold is interested? He does like the oriented stuff you know? From: Michael Farmer To: Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:49:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade 30 Rials is worth $78. Why would anyone pay $100 for $78? I suggest Steve Arnold of Chicago, he just bought Chelyabinsk on eBay and rapidly listed it on eBay way lower than he paid. He specializes in that form of self-inflicted stupidity. He asked me the other day why I would not sell him any Chelyabinsk. Well, now he knows why. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: > I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can > get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 > USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal > (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these > much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. > > If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country > with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of > Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally > amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't > collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though > I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. > > Rob H. > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
Actually they were from a Ugandan I met on the road to Bikini Bottom. From: Tony Balogne [mailto:balogn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:33 PM To: Rob Holcomb Cc: 'met-list' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade That's fine, no problem. Regardless, I wouldn't want them as you probably stole them from a charity organization. From: Rob Holcomb To: 'Tony Balogne' Cc: 'met-list' Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:25:16 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade Tony, I can box up 2 kilos, but shipping to Bedford Falls isn’t possible though from here in LaLa land. Rob From: Tony Balogne [mailto:balogn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:53 PM To: Michael Farmer; Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade LOL, now that is funny! I'll have almost 2 kilos within a months time if Arnold is interested? He does like the oriented stuff you know? From: Michael Farmer To: Rob Holcomb Cc: met-list Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:49:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade 30 Rials is worth $78. Why would anyone pay $100 for $78? I suggest Steve Arnold of Chicago, he just bought Chelyabinsk on eBay and rapidly listed it on eBay way lower than he paid. He specializes in that form of self-inflicted stupidity. He asked me the other day why I would not sell him any Chelyabinsk. Well, now he knows why. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Rob Holcomb" wrote: > I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can > get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 > USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal > (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these > much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. > > If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country > with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of > Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally > amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't > collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though > I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. > > Rob H. > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD]: Omani Currency for sale/trade
I have 30 Omani Rials for sale, 5 each of the 1 and 5 Rial notes (you can get several tanks of gas for this in Oman! Prices in Salalah are about $1.20 USD OR $0.50 OMR per gallon) . Would trade for $100 US Dollars via PayPal (prefer no-fee payments) or cash. Email me if interested, I've priced these much lower than eBay just to help the meteorite community. If you've never been to Oman you really need to go, it's a beautiful country with a fabulous coast, the blow holes at Mugsail to the cuttlefishermen of Ras Madrakah and then if you love deserts the Empty Quarter is totally amazing with 300+ foot high dunes and 2000+ year old settlements. Don't collect meteorites there, unless you have permission from the Sultan, though I have several kgs of meteorites from Oman if any dealers are interested. Rob H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Chelyabinsk contest
$1.50/gram 15 dealers -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Linda Barany Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:20 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Russian Chelyabinsk contest $30 a gram/ 25 dealers __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Colorado fall or faux?
Check out this article about a rock found in Greely Colorado. True? or False? http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20110612/NEWS/706129976/1051&ParentProfile=1001 Doesn't look like any meteorite I've ever seen, seems more like a schist or something with a high crystalline content. Rob H __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Thread regarding scams
Personally I don't think a "black-balled" list is a good idea at all, it puts the finger pointers at risk and makes the association look bad. What it sounds like is the IMCA needs to get involved and promote members that are dealers in good standing and if any member is caught selling fraudulently they will lose their membership. Consumers and collectors can be educated to only by from members of a reputable association that verifies members and will admonish them if they don't act with utmost honesty and integrity. I certainly wouldn't trust a lawyer that was disbarred or a stock broker that wasn't a member of the NASD. I'm not a dealer and have a very limited collection, and will only buy from a legitimate dealer. Seeing these posts on this forum is distracting from the real discussions and now they have spread to the FB Meteorite group. Rob Holcomb (not an IMCA affiliate) -- From: "Richard Montgomery" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:22 PM To: "'Meteorite-list List'" Subject: [meteorite-list] New Thread regarding scams Hi List, It is no debate that scams should be recognized and exposed, and shared on this List...yet pending un-intended consequences (liable lawsuits and false accusations) will weigh heavily upon us all if they are in fact ill conceived and recklessly tossed about. Our objective is to maintain integrityand the majority of participants here have more than a rudimentary knowledge in things meteoritic, and know already when a sham is under way. This recent suggestion of a blacked-list of scammers is currently directed at all of us, yet not yet directed to the un-informed, and therefore really doesn't reach those new to meteorites...(they are also most likely not members of this List and our discussions...hence the dillema.) I suggest that we simply alert the rest of the community when suspect substitutes or outright fraud appears. Simple as it seems, word of mouth, or word of List, will alert us. And then we'll investigate it. En route, keep the culprit at bay. En route, I don't see an upside to pointing out fraudsters in a formal-format-published-list, since the potential downside would only further the fire; also potentially harm an already fragile public opinion. Remember that most newbie eBayers aren't even aware of this discussion, nor of the List and this thread. Yes, this is a big problem if fraudulent eBay listings spawn and infect collections. What to do, besides writing individual opinions to those infected? Some thoughts: Pointing out fraudulent people is much more volitile than pointing out meteorwongs, and miss-labled true specimens (although, the Mifflin case may offer a compelling counter to this suggestion) since meteoritic knowledge speaks volumes on its own. So, I suggest we follow a true path to a solution to an ongoing issue: spread knowledge of our meteorites, and avoid getting trapped in the process. -Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Seriously?
How about a "Hollow Earth" society? -- From: "Eric Wichman" Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:20 PM To: "Meteorite-list" Subject: [meteorite-list] Seriously? http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert
Yes, so? You've gotta be kidding me that you're criticizing me on this. Lighten up Bill. I was talking about Sterling's comment! (if I build a house in a strewn field do you not deride me when it rains down on me?) The story in specific isn't funny, but after the Kim's story from Oregon and these various desert stories, WHO trusts their GPS? There is a certain amount of common sense, some basic instinct and SOME MORE COMMON sense that needs to be used instead of relying on devices that aren't understood. If you don't know how stuff works (or you don't respect a name like Death Valley!), then STAY HOME! Don't expect me to feel sorry for you. Rob H -- From: "bill kies" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:38 PM To: Cc: Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert I don't see anything hahaable about the story. Bill From: rob.holc...@gmail.com To: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:25:45 -0700 CC: bristo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert haha, I saw this a while back and laughed. If you understand how to to orienteering you don't have a big issue when visiting the Mojave (Death Valley) or Sonoran deserts. But if you go through life not understanding how things work you should just stay home. RobH -- From: "Sterling K. Webb" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:09 PM To: Cc: "Paul H" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert > Has no one noticed the NAME given to > this valley before they decide to take a > stroll (or a roll) through it? > > > Sterling K. Webb > - > - Original Message - > From: "Paul H." > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:32 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert > > >> "Death by GPS" in desert by Tom Knudson, The >> Sacremento Bee, Jan. 30, 2011, >> http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/3362727/death-by-gps-in-desert.html >> >> Experts Warn of 'Death by GPS' as More People Visit >> Remote Wildernesses, FoxNews.com,February 04, 2011 >> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/04/death-gps-rise/?test=faces >> >> Using GPS Navigation - >> http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/directions.htm >> >> yours, >> >> Paul H. >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list I don't see anything am = __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert
haha, I saw this a while back and laughed. If you understand how to to orienteering you don't have a big issue when visiting the Mojave (Death Valley) or Sonoran deserts. But if you go through life not understanding how things work you should just stay home. RobH -- From: "Sterling K. Webb" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:09 PM To: Cc: "Paul H" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert Has no one noticed the NAME given to this valley before they decide to take a stroll (or a roll) through it? Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "Paul H." To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] "Death by GPS" in desert "Death by GPS" in desert by Tom Knudson, The Sacremento Bee, Jan. 30, 2011, http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/3362727/death-by-gps-in-desert.html Experts Warn of 'Death by GPS' as More People Visit Remote Wildernesses, FoxNews.com,February 04, 2011 http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/04/death-gps-rise/?test=faces Using GPS Navigation - http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/directions.htm yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men at NEAF 2011, New York, This Weekend
I can't get over the "free parking" comment. :-) -- From: "Michael Gilmer" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:42 PM To: "Notkin" Cc: "Meteorite List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men at NEAF 2011, New York,This Weekend Hi List, Geoff is absolutely right about NEAF. If you are interested in optics, astronomy, or meteorites, it is well worth a visit. The latest in cutting-edge optics is always on display and every year Televue has it's famous "Blem Sale" where you can buy eyepieces like Naglers and Panoptics at a substantial discount. Plus, Alan Traino (one of the key organizers of NEAF) is a great guy and he makes sure that NEAF always has interesting vendors and speakers. If you are in the area, don't miss it. (and if you go, join the IDA and help keep our skies dark!) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 4/12/11, Notkin wrote: Dear Listees: Steve Arnold and I are featured guests at the 20th anniversary Northeast Astronomy Forum (NEAF) this coming weekend at Rockland Community College in Suffern, New York. NEAF is one of the country's top science forums, and an important educational outreach event. Vendors demonstrate the latest in telescope technology and there are numerous presentations and workshops. Steve and I will be giving a presentation on meteorite hunting for the International Dark Sky Association on Saturday, April 16 at 1 pm. On Sunday, at 4 pm, we are the NEAF keynote speakers and will host an audio visual presentation about the making of Season Two of "Meteorite Men," and talk about our plans for the upcoming third season. We will also be displaying the 109-lb Alpha pallasite found on the "Meteorite Men" pilot. We'll have an impressive display of meteorites and collectibles on hand, including new finds and acquisitions. In addition, popular author, astronomer, and meteorite specialist Dr. Mike Reynolds will be in attendance, as will our excellent friend Geoff Cintron, formerly of Island Meteorite. "Astronomy" magazine, "Sky & Telescope," and "Astronomy Now" are among the many other noted vendors and publications that will be represented. Details: http://www.rocklandastronomy.com/NEAF/index.html Steve and I warmly invite any List members in the tri-state area to come along and say hello. NEAF is a great event and you will not be disappointed. The college is only about a 45-minute drive from NYC, with plenty of free parking. With best wishes, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT Story
There is a dry and to the point Wikipedia article about Mr. Broad, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Broad. He has covered many technical and scientific events in his career, including continuing coverage of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant event going on in Japan; the meteorite story wasn't among his finest, and it certainly isn't be his worst. I'd really like to hear a response from him on the list, but that's probably unlikely. /rh -- From: "Darryl Pitt" Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:03 PM To: "Adam Hupe" Cc: "Adam" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NYT Story Hi Why would the NYT even use quote marks if what they print is inaccurate? I can see them taking these responses out of context but changing what somebody said and placing quote marks around it is nothing short of liable. While I agree with some of what you've written, the aforementioned is factually inaccurate. What you're referring to has nothing in and of itself to do with libel. Zilch. For those who are interested, The New York Times Manual of Style will explain all stylistic choices employed by the paper While the writer of the piece obviously did a hack job, it should be noted he won the Pulitzer Prize, twice, and is considered by many to a dean of science writers. Overseas list members, if you have the opportunity, please peruse the International Herald Tribune to see if they picked up the story and run it in its entirety. Thanks and all the best / d, On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: It seems some disagree with this statement I made earlier. themselves by putting quotes around something that was completely made up.> I am not defending the NYT and think the article is poor. It used to be when quote marks were printed that this was the exact statement made. Why would the NYT even use quote marks if what they print is inaccurate? I can see them taking these responses out of context but changing what somebody said and placing quote marks around it is nothing short of liable. If this reporter knows nothing about meteorites and was a blank slat start with, then somebody had to put these thoughts into his head. It looks to me that Dr. Harvey might have set the tone for this article. Perhaps, he was quoted out of context but if so, it his responsibility to clarify it since he granted them the interview. If you want to be in the limelight, then you have to take responsibility for any negative fallout. After all, he was acting as a spokesperson for the rest of us by granting this public interview. Everybody else quoted in this article has stepped up to the plate, took responsibility for what was said and explained what they meant to say. I applaud this action and believe most mentioned in this article were completely caught off guard. I do not cherish the thought of somebody else speaking on my behalf publicly, especially when they were not elected to do so. What is printed or plastered on TV affects all of us. Remember this when an interview with the media seems to be getting out of hand. You can always stop the interview and move on. Most media outlets thrive on negative entertainment and it works. One just has to look at the negative political campaigns to see this. If it did not work, then politicians would not use this tactic. It takes ten positive articles to offset one negative one. This ratings over responsibility attitude can be devastating. Just ask any former treasure hunter. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
I think this is where all the meteorite friends could come together and inundate the eBay patrol people with issues. They will bow to pressure and then go outside and play volleyball or soccer, I see them almost daily when I'm driving to work. :-) And yes they are real people. (Though I think the "policy deciders" are not human.) Rob H PS: I still have about 3 kg of my Oman meteorites if anyone wants them, they are boxed up and ready to go. Might be nice for a dealer and they are all 3 grams or more (no little bits). -- From: "Michael Gilmer" Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:18 PM To: Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a "meteorite" on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika wrote: From: Impactika Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Mete
Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner
From friends near Torreón I have a lead on a recent fall that hasn't been reported here yet. I'm hoping to get a guide in the desert to help find something and have a good time too. I'm willing to meet anyone who also heard of a fall there and are willing to risk the Mexican desert. I plan to enter Mexico from Tucson through Nogales and make my way through Chihuahua and then on to Torreón, I have a chemistry project in Torreón and need to be there anyway so will do some Rocks from Space hounding on the way. Rob H -- From: "Greg Hupe" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:14 PM To: "Rob Holcomb" ; "Meteorite-list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner Rob, Was there a fall we didn't hear about? ;-) Have a great weekend!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 ============ -Original Message- From: Rob Holcomb Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:13 PM To: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner You guys are so funny! I love hearing about your competition, but I'm not headed to OK now I'm off to Mexico! Have a great trip, Rob H -- From: "Greg Hupe" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:04 PM To: "Brian Cox" ; "Meteorite-list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner Hey Brian and all... I've heard news and it wasn't from a friendly dinner invite. I heard news from 'boots on the ground' (or in the skies!). Mike Farmer called me in route, on the plane, of where they were going and, "Where the hell are you, Greg?!". Simply put, family first, rocks second!! That said, I will put my money on people who call me and share 'before' they invite, that way all information is shared and enjoyed by those who can zero in on the strewnfield while going out in all directions as a team! Find one, two... on to the little fresh stones who decided to land on Planet Earth!! :) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Brian Cox Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:00 PM To: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner Hi list, I'm sure if there has been anything found that the guys are keeping quiet about it for now. I wouldn't be telling the world, certainly not the news until they've got the area mapped out and found a good sum of specimens. The area is probably more remote than Mifflin, Wisconsin and far less populated than Park Forest, Illinois. I'm sure the guys don't want the Tulsa or Oklahoma City news people out there. Also, I certainly wouldn't depend on the news to get my "news" of a meteorite fall, most of them have no idea what a meteorite looks like or where it's from unless they watch Meteorite Men or follow the hobby. Most of them are too busy chasing other stories to get their face on TV and worrying about their appearance and advancing their careers. ;-) Remember every fall from Park Forest to Mifflin took the news at least a day or two to even report it and even then they all acted like it was unbelievable like an alien sighting, until someone from a major museum or university or a Meteorite Hunter verified the information. All the best to those out there in the fields. Let us know when you can what type you think it is and send photos when possible. thanks for keeping in touch. Brian - Message: 24 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:58:03 + From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner To: "Meteorites USA" , meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <617725545-1301097406-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9526398...@bda2433.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Nothing has been found. Besides, I'm sure we would have seen reports in the news by now. Ryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner
You guys are so funny! I love hearing about your competition, but I'm not headed to OK now I'm off to Mexico! Have a great trip, Rob H -- From: "Greg Hupe" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:04 PM To: "Brian Cox" ; "Meteorite-list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner Hey Brian and all... I've heard news and it wasn't from a friendly dinner invite. I heard news from 'boots on the ground' (or in the skies!). Mike Farmer called me in route, on the plane, of where they were going and, "Where the hell are you, Greg?!". Simply put, family first, rocks second!! That said, I will put my money on people who call me and share 'before' they invite, that way all information is shared and enjoyed by those who can zero in on the strewnfield while going out in all directions as a team! Find one, two... on to the little fresh stones who decided to land on Planet Earth!! :) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Brian Cox Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:00 PM To: Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner Hi list, I'm sure if there has been anything found that the guys are keeping quiet about it for now. I wouldn't be telling the world, certainly not the news until they've got the area mapped out and found a good sum of specimens. The area is probably more remote than Mifflin, Wisconsin and far less populated than Park Forest, Illinois. I'm sure the guys don't want the Tulsa or Oklahoma City news people out there. Also, I certainly wouldn't depend on the news to get my "news" of a meteorite fall, most of them have no idea what a meteorite looks like or where it's from unless they watch Meteorite Men or follow the hobby. Most of them are too busy chasing other stories to get their face on TV and worrying about their appearance and advancing their careers. ;-) Remember every fall from Park Forest to Mifflin took the news at least a day or two to even report it and even then they all acted like it was unbelievable like an alien sighting, until someone from a major museum or university or a Meteorite Hunter verified the information. All the best to those out there in the fields. Let us know when you can what type you think it is and send photos when possible. thanks for keeping in touch. Brian - Message: 24 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:58:03 + From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK dinner To: "Meteorites USA" , meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <617725545-1301097406-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9526398...@bda2433.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Nothing has been found. Besides, I'm sure we would have seen reports in the news by now. Ryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: RISKS OF NUCLEAR POWER
This reminds me of the irrational fears people have over the "body scan" when going through airport security. The amount of harmful non-ionizing radiation from the scanner is significantly less than the radiation from their upcoming flight. According to the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurement (NCRP), the exposure from the 40mm wavelength scanners is approximately equal to 2 minutes of high altitude flight. Rob H -- From: "Sterling K. Webb" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:38 PM To: "Meteorite List" Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: RISKS OF NUCLEAR POWER List, We are invariably abnormally impressed by the sudden occurrence of a rare, high-risk event. We do not appraise them in a strictly rational manner when this happens. The current application of fear caused by a very rare event, as we see in Japan, is weighted heavily. For those interested in the actual data, the human cost, in lives, of the various means of electric power production are listed below. Deaths are for the period 1970 through 1992, the only period for which data could be collected for all the means of production. All deaths are "immediate" deaths, and the figures are on a worldwide basis, which includes countries with less stringent industrial safety requirements than the U.S. This is the picture for the Planet. Hydroelectric production accounted for roughly 4000 deaths, of members of the public, or 883 deaths per terawatt-year. The vast majority of those deaths were from the failure of dams and impoundments. Coal power production produced about 6400 deaths, all of workers, for a death rate of 342 deaths per terawatt-year. (Deaths from the mining of coal are included in proportion to the use of coal in direct power production.) Natural Gas power production resulted in some 1200 deaths, of both industry workers and the general public, for 85 deaths per terawatt-year. Nuclear Power resulted in 31 deaths, all of workers, for a total of 8 deaths per terawatt-year, or 1% of the deaths from "safe" environmentally friendly hydroelectric power. The "other fuel," petroleum, is rarely used for power production but largely for transportation. How deadly, in these terms, is our transportation power use in cars and trucks as compared to the cost in life of power production? The U.S. consumed 0.138 teragallons of gasoline on 2009 (at 4.175 watt-years per gallon), with a total energy content of a "mere" 0.576 terawatt-years. Highway deaths in 2009 were 33,963, which yields 58,943 deaths per terawatt-year of power consumed. Clearly, the use of this power source for transport is many orders of magnitude more dangerous than the production of electrical power, however it is accomplished. Our reaction to this horrendous risk is to complain about how much it costs us to fill'er up. Humans are not rational animals. The reduction in overall life expectancy in the U.S. due to nuclear power production is one-third of the reduction in life expectancy caused by eating 8 ounces. of charcoal-broiled steak per week. Make mine medium-rare, please. Sterling K. Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] "Great News" to eBay sellers.
Yeah, I've given up on eBay at this point. Not that I've sold more than 4 rocks there, but much other stuff. And I'm not going to simply PASS the shipping charges through to feeBay AND pay them to the post office. There are already too many fees, how about instituting a buyers premium? that would really shoot eBay in the foot. It is a load of ... Rob H -- From: "Marcin Cimala" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:15 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Great News" to eBay sellers. For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this "great news" to take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of Ryan Hmm Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as a punishment But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Pretty easy to verify, but please take this discussion offline. It doesn't belong here, and I do expect some of these comments will be regretted when they show up in internet searches. Rob H -- From: "Brian Cox" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:05 PM To: "Meteorite-list" Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Do I know you Paul Swartz? Who are you, why are you emailing me? Are you a meteorite collector or just someone reading the list and didn't like my post. Are you in the IMCA? Why are you stalking and harassing me? Does anyone know this guy? -Original Message- From: valpar...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok Or, apparently, think straight. Paul Swartz I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. Brian Cox __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Oops, sorry I must be in the wrong group. Please keep it civil. Rob H -- From: "Brian Cox" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:24 AM To: "Meteorite-list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk and others are ok Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post " I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox." I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given "Talk Points" and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a reason that most intelligent people call it the "Unfair and Unbalanced network" and also call it "Faux Noise Channel" and "FUX noise" it's a worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call themselves "The Tea Party," because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS! I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance. Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update. Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news.. All my best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Racetrack Playa redux
Just wanted to share a few images of Racetrack Playa in Death Valley. These are some experimental photos using infrared film and B&W paper. http://4-kats.homeip.net/Racetrack/ Rob H __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oman prison saga
That is a great story! I'm really sorry you had to go through this, but glad you're home safe. And hopefully nobody has to go through this type of detention in the future, glad my trip to Oman didn't end this way. Your statement about being supported and knowing the blessing will be forwarded on is very true, I have my own stories of people that stood with me through tough times. Rob H -- From: "Michael Farmer" Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:36 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Oman prison saga 90% of the meteorite list is interested in the Oman meteorite saga that Robert Ward and Michael Farmer went through from our arrest in early January until our release ordered on March 7th 2011. This is my story, Robert can tell his, as it is a little different as we were separated, interrogated, and housed apart for more than half of the event. On December 31st we headed for Oman, my 20th meteorite hunting expedition there. I have studied the law there since the arrest of the Russian and American hunters back in 2005. There is no law against meteorite hunting in Oman, those who asked why we keep doing it, that is why. It is legal. After months of meeting with lawyers, looking at Oman law, I think we know what we are talking about. We had a very successful trip, I found 35 meteorites, 3 pieces of the Dhofar 1180 Lunar, more than 100 grams, and some other nice things. On the last day we headed out of the desert and towards Dubai. At 1 PM on 13 January we arrived at a police roadblock in Adam, nothing out of the norm, until they rushed my car with M16's and they had heavy belt-fed guns on their trucks. They forced us out of our cars and ripped them apart of course, finding the meteorites immediately. We were taken to the Adam police station and interrogated for 10 hours. The Wali (governor) of the area arrived and was very upset at our confinement, he kept apologizing to us and saying he did not understand why we were being arrested and kept calling Muscat to try and get us released, he was angry at tourists being detained in his district. He then informed that orders from much higher in the government came in that we were to be taken to Muscat and it was out of his hands. The roadblock was for us, they had intel that we were coming. I have intel on who did it.. We were driven to Muscat in shackles, arriving at midnight, taken to an interrogation center in Qurum. Stripped, put into separate rooms, and never saw each other again for the next 25 days except when the embassy came, our lawyers came, or we were taken to the hospital a couple of times. Qurum Criminal Investigation Division is little more than a torture chamber, we heard many times people being beaten, and dragged around. I was interrogated in a conference room after more than 72 hours without sleep. We were kept in small rooms, 9 x 9 x 12 ft, with small pad on the floor and two blankets, horribly filthy, crawling with roaches, and things on the floors and walls which I decline to try to describe. There were 4 rooms, Robert and I in two, and other people in the others, we could hear them crying or screaming sometimes. I tried to speak to Robert a couple of times just to see if he was there, and he would yell he was, then the police would come and threaten me not to speak again, this went on for 25 days and nights, 24 hours a day in that room, cold, a small light on 24/7 you never knew the time of day except when food would come. It was a nightmare that never seemed to end. I was close to losing it, never did, but my military training kicked in and helped with that. It was more than 48 hours since our arrest that I was interrogated, forced to sign a statement of guilt, then driven to a prosecutor's office at midnight on the 15th of Jan. No phone calls in that time, no chance to see lawyer or embassy despite endless pleas. I was charged with various crimes again with no chance to see lawyer beforehand. I begged the prosecutor for a call and he refused, then thankfully after he sent me out into a waiting room, another person handed me a cell phone quietly so I called my wife and in 20 seconds told her I was in jail in Muscat, and to call for help to the embassy,. It took a week for the embassy to find us. Oman violated many laws, they are required to provide lawyer before charges are filed, and contact embassy within 24 hours, neither done. After that, the endless days passed in hell, the toilet a hole in the ground and I will leave the rest to your imagination. We went to trial on 6 Feb, a 15 minute joke in Arabic with one question asked by the judge, who then sentenced us to 6 months in prison and a $250 fine for illegal mining operations. We were sent the next day to the Sumail central prison. Once we arrived at the prison, Robert and I were placed together in a room, for the first time we could talk at will, see the sky and see other
Re: [meteorite-list] All Shook Up!
Initial estimate by the computers is 8.8! 230 mi NE of Tokyo. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0001xgp/ Be safe Dirk! Rob H -- From: "Count Deiro" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:31 PM To: Cc: Subject: [meteorite-list] All Shook Up! Hang on, Dirk! GuysDirk is living through a nearly 8.0 earthquake as this is written. Lets all hope and pray he and his loved ones are safe. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction on nowon Ebay
I don't see anything listed in the shop you have on eBay. http://stores.ebay.com/Steve-Arnold-Meteorites or http://stores.ebay.com/SteveArnoldMeteorites Did I miss out? Rob H -- From: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:02 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction on nowon Ebay Hey List, I'm looking to sell a few items and thought I would offer a limited number of items up on Ebay via my Steve Arnold famous reverse auction format. I have some items that I have listed on Ebay at a fixed price, And starting tonight, I will be periodically dropping the prices by varying degrees over the next few days at random times and possibly at random amounts. At any given time (probably when I sell enough, or when the prices on the unsold items gets too obscenely low, I reserve the right to end the reverse auction and let the prices revert to their starting prices. Check out the items I have for sale including those on sale now here: http://shop.ebay.com/stevearnoldmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thanks, Steve Arnold Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Some of the best paper is at your local art store. Find some 90 pound or 140 pound cold press water color paper which can be made into great looking tags. Arches is a good brand and available almost anywhere. If you need more info, I'd be glad to help Rob H -- From: "Shawn Alan" Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:40 AM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Listers and night owls or morning people I agree about signing ID cards. I always sign the back of the card, with the weight of the fragment and also I print my name and put my IMCA number. I like to use double sided matte paper and I find 50 to 61 lb weight works well. But I wish I could find heavyer paper any LISTERS know of any good matte type white paper that has a high weight lets say about 80 lb plus white minimal texture in the paper? [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 20:37:24 EST 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Next message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Sorry Forgot to mention I like the cards I get from dealers to be signed as well. I'm signing mine. -- Richard Kowalski Previous message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Next message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite slicing, polishing and imaging
I'm thinking about slicing up my 4 kg of unclassified ordinary Chondrite meteorites (since I haven't been able to sell them) and had a few questions. Do those of you that have saws recommended a specific blade? width? type? Do you "etch" the surface the same was you would with typical metallurgical samples? And, what would be the highest polish you'd use? I have access to automatic polishers and can use slurry materials down to about 50nm. Would images be acquired using polarized light? I don't see much crystalline material in my slices so far and wonder if there is a benefit. Can you suggest a surface protectant that can be used on the slices? I'm thinking about using a clear acrylic or silicone material to embed the slices. Anyway, my plan is to supply these slices to a local silversmith to fashion into some great jewelry. Rob H http://www.processchemistry.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help
Hi Marcin, Here are two of the stitched images. Suitable for viewing as large format images, if you would like to print either of these images I can email you a full resolution TIFF image. Using the jpg images as print source may result in odd aberrations. Please let me know if they look good to you. http://4-kats.homeip.net/Apollo16/Rover_With_LMR01.jpg http://4-kats.homeip.net/Apollo16/Rover_With_LMR02.jpg I'd love to live in a land of spaceships. :-) Rob H -- From: "Marcin Cimala" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:53 AM To: "Rob Holcomb" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help thanks I will try to make one :) - Original Message - From: "Rob Holcomb" To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help You can find almost all of the original images from the Apollo missions at the image archive. The panorama was probably made from one of these high res images. http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/images16.html RobH http://www.processchemistry.com -- From: "Marcin Cimala" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:10 AM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help Hi Im looking for high resolution images of this three moon photos. Anyone know where I can download them ? I look on several Nasa websites but there are only small, patrial photos. I hope there is somewhere source of nice free panoramas like this made on Mars. http://moonpans.com/prints/40_A16landing.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/40_A16sta10.htm http://moonpans.com/signed/40a17sta5_tour.htm -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help
You can find almost all of the original images from the Apollo missions at the image archive. The panorama was probably made from one of these high res images. http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/images16.html RobH http://www.processchemistry.com -- From: "Marcin Cimala" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:10 AM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for Moon panoramas - please help Hi Im looking for high resolution images of this three moon photos. Anyone know where I can download them ? I look on several Nasa websites but there are only small, patrial photos. I hope there is somewhere source of nice free panoramas like this made on Mars. http://moonpans.com/prints/40_A16landing.htm http://moonpans.com/prints/40_A16sta10.htm http://moonpans.com/signed/40a17sta5_tour.htm -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock"
Hi All, Of course they deny that the rock is real. There is no reason for them to acknowledge the loss of any material and if they were to confiscate it, these pretenders would simply be encouraged. So ignore them and hope values never get established. RobH http://www.processchemistry.com -- From: "Steve Schoner" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:14 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] The recent Ebay "Apollo Moon Rock" I sent an e-mail to the NASA Johnson Space Center regarding the supposed "authentic" Apollo moon rock that is not a meteorite with the link to that Ebay auction. Here is the first reply that I got: Dear Steve Schoner: Your query was forwarded to me. The rock for sale on eBay is/was not a real Moon rock. Sincerely, Jennifer Ross-Nazzal, Ph.D. Historian, NASA Johnson Space Center ITAMS Contract 17047 El Camino Real, Suite 217 Houston, TX 77058 281-486-3942 jennifer.m.ross-naz...@nasa.gov http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/history_office.htm I might get a few more responses as I sent a couple of e-mails out to other NASA departments that handle Apollo moon rocks. Steve Schoner __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attention Meteorite Collectors who use Facebook -viral spam app warning
Hi MikeG, I would like to add that blocking an app does not remove it from your profile nor does it stop the app from harvesting you and your friends personal information, it simply blocks it from posting on your wall. And if it's posted and you click block then it's already done it's damage. You should also check the Application security area regularly and remove all apps that you don't use or recognize, go to Account >> Privacy Settings >> Apps and Websites >> Apps you use. Facebook doesn't make it easy to check this, intentionally, but it is a good idea to purge the list of apps periodically. My volume of junk messages and emails goes way down after purging. Have a great weekend, Rob http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Michael Gilmer" Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:17 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Attention Meteorite Collectors who use Facebook -viral spam app warning Hi Folks, This is a heads-up for Facebook users. There are some new viral-spam applications going around. These are variations on a previous similar scam. The app will claim to show you who visits your profile, like a stat-tracker does on a personal website. However, visitor data is held in private by FB and nobody or no app can show you this data. It's a complete scam. These apps have names like "See Who Stalks You". If you give the app permission to access your profile, the app will then spam all of your FB friends by posting a link to this garbage app on your wall, thus encouraging others to fall for it. I am posting this to Met-List because I noticed that 3 members of this List have already been tricked by this app. If you are a victim of these apps, simply block them permanently by clicking on the "Block this Application" link on the app's main page. In the future, keep this in mind - scammers use these apps to gain access to your profile information, possibly to steal personal information that can be used to hack into your email account or PayPal account. Often, a security question for your email or PP acount is the name of your pet, mother's maiden name, etc. Such information can be found on some people's FB profiles. That makes it easy for a scammer to use the "Lost Password" trick on your accounts. They will answer the security question (thanks to the info they gained from your FB wall) and then change your password - locking you out of your account and then they will drain your PP account. So just block these apps immediately as soon as someone invites you. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?
Hi all! I studied geology (back when plate-tectonics was still an interesting theory ) and there was absolutely zero mention of meteorites or even lunar materials. But now that I've gotten meteorites in the blood I find that my old professors and colleagues find these very interesting . I currently work in an academic metallurgy lab and there are several faculty that are totally enthralled in meteorites (even though their main research interest might be stainless steels or brasses.). So I agree that most geologists wouldn't know a moon rock. Rob Rob Holcomb ... PO Box 1306 650-223-4757 ... Palo Alto, CA 94302 -- From: "Michael Gilmer" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:08 PM To: "Murray Paulson" Cc: "tett" ; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? Hi List, No offense to geologists, but many geologists are not experienced with meteorites. Some are, some are not. I have a friend who is a geologist who worked at the Yucca Mountain complex. His knowledge is very extensive, yet I know more about meteorites than he does. We discussed this, and he told me that not all geologists extend their learning into the realm of meteorites. While all geologists know what a meteorite is, many cannot identify one or speak authoritatively on them. So, asking a geologist is better than asking a plumber, but it's not a sure thing when it comes to meteorites. It all depends on the individual geologist and what areas of expertise he/she has. Given the fact that the majority of geologists have never seen an Apollo sample first-hand, I wouldn't expect one to positively identify such a specimen from just looking at it. So, this seller's testimonial carries no weight. Does the item have any bids on it yet? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 2/3/11, Murray Paulson wrote: Ya, I know, it should have been a "meteorologist" and he would have slipped through ... Murray ; ) On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:26 PM, tett wrote: Total B.S. As soon as he wrote, "I showed it to a geologist.." I knew this was fake. Cheers! Mike Tettenborn On 03/02/2011 7:52 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: If the sample is real, it is an extraordinarily large one (comparatively speaking). As such, it's surprising that someone would be dumb enough to try to sell it on eBay. --Rob -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:42 PM To: mike; Matson, Robert D. Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay? All: Appears it is illegal to own one - but as to it being real - probable? http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/07/can-you-legally-own-a-piece-of-the-moon/ Can You Legally Own a Piece of the Moon? A Moon rock on Mt. Everest: Not for keeps Mr. Ian Sheffield of Edinburgh Scotland is miffed. He claims to have not one, but two dust samples of the Moon-one from the Apollo 11 mission and another from the Apollo 15 mission. He explains that he bought these lunar samples "from a dealer" about 3 years ago. The article does not indicate how much he paid for them, but he does allow that each is valued at "around £2000" (about $3300) each. A problem arose when he planned to display his samples to the public. He apparently wrote to NASA asking if he could exhibit them. To his astonishment, NASA refused to give him permission and demanded the return of the samples, claiming that the lunar dust in his possession was property of the United States government. Mr. Sheffield's story of how the samples came into his possession is interesting. He states the dust came off a camera film pack to which a technician in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory was accidentally exposed. Because no one was sure the lunar samples would not contain some possible primitive (and pathogenic) organisms when the Apollo 11 crew first returned to Earth, they had to spend three weeks in quarantine. Anybody in the LRL exposed to lunar material was compelled to join the astronauts in their quarantine. The technician who was exposed went into isolation and (the story claims) upon his release, "was given the dust as a memento." My antennae went up at this point. No lunar samples are "given" to private individuals. Each piece of the M
Re: [meteorite-list] Sponsored met adds in google search
Ditto! Adwords, FaceBook ads and LinkedIn ads all add up and I was running out of money. So no more advertising until the economy picks up again. Though it is disingenuous to lump Google in with the rest since I actually got traffic from Google. I have 3 Kilos of classified chondrites if anyone is in the market for a big boxful of rocks? From a small country between the Red Sea and the Persian Sea. Rob Http://www.rholcomb.com Rob Holcomb ... PO Box 1306 650-223-4757 ... Palo Alto, CA 94302 -- From: "Meteorites USA" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sponsored met adds in google search Melanie, You're talking about Google Adwords. It's the advertising program that shows vendor ads (sponsored ads) in the right had column when you do a Google search. It's based on keywords, and/or keyword phrases, and what any vendor "bids" on those keywords. Some dealers may or may not be running their ads during the show, or may have cut back on their daily budget. MikeG is right, it could be economic. I think it's a combination... Vendors bid on keywords and "Pays Per Click" every time a user clicks the ad. It's rightly called PPC advertising, and how Google makes BILLIONS! Type in "How to make money online" in Google and you'll be bombarded with Adwords ads in the right hand column of most any browser. However type the single keyword "chondrite" and it shows nothing, or only 1 or 2 ads at random. This is because not many people/vendors are bidding on that keyword. Type in "Meteorites for Sale" and a few more results show up. The reason my Meteorites USA does not show any more in the "Sponsored Ads" column, is because I turned off my Adwords ads. ;) It's not cheap, and it was only pulling 25-100 visits per day. I get 5-10 times that traffic through organic search each day, so it's pointless for me to run my ads constantly unless I have a special promotion. Also, Tucson Show is going on right now. Meteorite dealers may have turned off their ads while they are at the show. Hope this helps... Regards, Eric On 2/3/2011 7:13 PM, Melanie Matthews wrote: It would be nice if when one punches in the key words: "meteorite", "chondrite", "chondrule", "achondrite", "pallasite", "Martian", "Lunaite", etc...that a sponsored link (or links) would appear in the upper right of the page to online stores that sell mets such as "Meteorites USA", "Meteorite Market", and so forth.. In fact think I remember a few years ago that was the case, but what happened? Search those keywords now and nothing comes up other than search contents.. --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Unique Meteorite
Are you sure it's not a gastrolith? I've been fed some lines before and this looks tasty. Rob http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Rob McCafferty" Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:37 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Unique Meteorite Arrgh! I am such a grammar nazi! It cannot be very unique. It's either unique or it isn't. I'm so very, very sorry. Please beat me around the head with a set of clubs for being such an appalling pedant. Rob McC --- On Sun, 30/1/11, Ruben Garcia wrote: From: Ruben Garcia Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Unique Meteorite To: "Meteorite List" Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 1:59 Hi all, Currently emailing from Tucson and thought I'd post one of my latest Gem Show purchases. I bought this meteorite yesterday because it was so odd. Has anyone ever seen anything like it? If so, how could this have happened? http://www.mr-meteorite.net/chondrules.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Crater in New Mexico – Part 2 Lincoln County
Looking at these features in Google Earth, they appear to be capped limestone structures rather than depressions. Has anyone on the discussion list actually been there? Rob http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Paul H." Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:34 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Impact Crater in New Mexico – Part 2 Lincoln County Abe wrote in “Impact Crater in New Mexico” at http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2011-January/072191.html ; “How about these 34° 0'51.00" N 105° 8'41.46" W? I notice a huge scatter of craters. Is much known about these or what they are? There are a lot of these ancient scars for several miles around. If they aren't impact craters it would be interesting to know what they are.” The features that are located at and near 34° 0'51.00" N 105° 8'41.46" W lie within the S1/2 of the SE1/4, of Section 27 and the N1/2 of the NE 1/2 of Section 34 of T. 3S., R. 17E. within Lincoln County, New Mexico. According to Scholle, P. A. (2003), this area is underlain by the San Andres Formation, which is described as “Limestone and dolomite with minor shale.” Judging from what can be seen in the images, the depressions in this area are natural features. Their morphology exhibits all the characteristics of typical sinkholes developed in the local limestone and dolomite bedrock. Unfortunately, I cannot at this time find anything specific about the geology of this part of Lincoln County, New Mexico. If a person wants to look for features to investigate as possible impact craters, they can check out the potential impact crater that Skotnicki (2009) reported finding within the Lincoln 7.5 quadrangle, Lincoln County, New Mexico. References; Scholle, P. A., 2003, Geologic Map of New Mexico. scale 1:500,000, New Mexico Bureau of Geology and Mineral Resources, Socorro, New Mexico. Skotnicki , S. J., 2009, Preliminary Geologic Map of the Lincoln Quadrangle, Lincoln County, New Mexico. scale: 1:24,000. Open-file Digital Geologic Map OF-GM 188. New Mexico Bureau of Geology and Mineral Resources, Socorro, New Mexico. http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/publications/maps/geologic/ofgm/details.cfml?Volume=188 Map at http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/publications/maps/geologic/ofgm/downloads/188/Lincoln_v1p-00.pdf Text at http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/publications/maps/geologic/ofgm/downloads/188/Lincoln_Report.pdf Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 4 kilo hoard of unclassified meteorites
Here's an opportunity for a dealer to get a nice selection of meteorites for study or resale. They are 3 grams or larger, with no chips, slivers or other small hard to identify pieces. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250743129936 Free shipping in the US an GUARANTEED delivery before Christmas if paid today. Shipping to Europe and most of the rest of the world is $45 by USPS Priority Mail (6-10 day delivery), check with me if you are not in the US or Western Europe and I'll give you a firm price. Happy Holidays to everyone! Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse photos from nr Barwell
Here's a photo from the San Francisco Bay Area, a friend setup his equipment and then stood out in the balmy (compared to most of you!) weather and took a whole series of photos. I like this one with the stars in the background. http://4-kats.homeip.net/andrewlunar.jpg Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "e-mail ensoramanda" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:57 AM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse photos from nr Barwell Hi All, Just uploaded 3 shots of the frosty solstice landscape near Barwell in the UK with the lunar eclipse just before totality... http://s760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/Lunar%20Eclipse%202010/ Seasons greetings, Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo
Thanks for sharing! I love night photography and to catch multiple meteors is tough to do. Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Mike Hankey" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:24 PM To: "Global Meteor Observing Forum" ; "meteoritelist" Subject: [meteorite-list] Double Geminid Photo Over 2 nights of cold and mostly cloudy weather I was able to capture 21 meteor photos. I was really impressed with how active this shower was especially the peak night. One of these exposures caught two meteors within the same shot (a 25 second time frame) http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/double-geminid.jpg Photo Details: Canon 40d camera with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fish eye lens; 25 second ISO 800 exposure Pretty cool! I think they are brothers. Mike Hankey Freeland MD http://mikesastrophotos.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List of known Rusters?
Hi Ed, If you would prefer to not use oil or other materials on your meteorites another way to prevent rust is to store in a dry container. In BC you probably have high humidity like in the San Francisco area and I find storage with desiccant and a vapor proof container to be sufficient for most meteorites. Rob Holcomb http://rholcomb.com -- From: "Ed Majden" Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:28 AM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] List of known Rusters? Does anyone have a list of known Iron meteorite rusters? The sample of Nantan China I have split into several pieces. I have been using WD40 on the pieces to retard further problems but this does not work all that well. Have to repeat this every few weeks! Ed Majden Courtenay B.C. Asteroid Majden 142368 (Thanks to Rob Matson) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite storage boxes & Humidity control
Hello Meteorite Collectors, Finally got the slice boxes up on my website, slice storage boxes are available as 40mm round boxes and 30x50mm rectangular boxes with PDMS liner to hold your small piece securely! These are great storage solutions for small fragments, chips and slices (up to 1.5mm thick) because you'll be able to see all sides without getting it out of the storage box. They are quite affordable and offer a simple storage solution for small pieces. Label options include a larger case to hold all similar samples, a simple numeral and key label system or small labels embedded in the case with the meteorite sample. Every order over $100 ships free to US addresses and $8.00 to the rest of the world! Shipping options to Europe have been updated! Thank you to everyone that has been taking advantage of my offerings and I hope that you will consider me for your next purchase of meteorite and fossil storage boxes. If there is any sizes you want that are not offered, please contact me for off the shelf sizes up to bowling balls. :-) Have a great weekend! Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Preservation and storage boxes
Hello Meteorite Collectors, Preservation of the fusion crust or slice surfaces requires storage at less than 30% humidity. All box orders from my website will receive silica gel desiccant sachets and 30-50% humidity indicator cards (small boxes require purchase of larger storage box to use desiccant.). Another add-on that isn't offered elsewhere is a PDMS (poly dimethylsiloxane) lining that prevents your meteorite from sliding in the storage box when it is moved, a very NICE feature to prevent the Rock from Space scratching up the acrylic box. Every order over $100 ships free to US addresses and $8.00 to the rest of the world! Shipping options to Europe have been updated! Thank you to everyone that has been taking advantage of my offerings and I hope that you will consider me for your next purchase of meteorite and fossil storage boxes. If there is any sizes you want that are not offered, please contact me for off the shelf sizes up to bowling balls. :-) Watch the website this week and 2 new products are introduced, Slice storage boxes available as 40mm round boxes and 30x50mm rectangular boxes with PDMS lining! These are great storage solutions for small fragments, chips and slices that you want to show off because you'll be able to see all sides without getting it out of the storage box. Have a great weekend! Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] US shipping restrictions Was-Question for Europeandealers
Actually the 1 pound limit was imposed by Japan Post; Japan Post will not accept packages larger than 1 pound bound for the US. As far as the USPS there are no other countries imposing a similar ban on Airmail. Though security will be tighter than it was before the fan mail from Yemen arrived. (All ground and sea based shipments are unaffected.) ALSO if you are a registered Japanese commercial business making shipments to the US (on the international safe shippers list) this ban will not impact your shipments to the US. http://www.majiroxnews.com/2010/11/13/japan-post-to-stop-parcels-to-us/ http://www.post.japanpost.jp/whats_new/2010/1112_02_c01.pdf Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "drtanuki" Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: "Marcin Cimala" ; Subject: [meteorite-list] US shipping restrictions Was-Question for Europeandealers List, The Japan post announced that due to recent events the US was now only accepting parcels of UP TO 453grams for airmail. Dirk...Tokyo --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Marcin Cimala wrote: From: Marcin Cimala Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers To: "meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral. Com" , "Sergey Vasiliev" Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 12:54 AM > I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. >> From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. > Regards Mirko I can send registered (air/ground) mail up to 2000grams and not matter if this is for Poland, for EU or international shipment. But try to go to other post office. Sometimes they have crazy ideas on posts. They can tell me that my box is wrong secured by my protective tape or that I write address in not correct place or whatever they can invent on their coffy break. But the best idea will be calling Your post infoline and ask them if this new regulations are official. :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] thin section storage
Hi Matt, Have you looked at membranebox.com? These are great for large slabs but can become a little expensive if you buy many. This is not an AD but it is regarding a product aimed at small slices and chips I'm trying to introduce to my website, I have an animation of a 1x2" slice box here, http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/MBoxes/SliceBox.mp4 This allows you to see all sides of the slice without having to remove it from the box. I can send you a sample if you want to test it out and give me some feedback. I AM NOT SELLING these at this time, but am still seeking feedback. So if you are willing to give me feedback, I'd be glad to send one of these out for your evaluation. If your slice is thicker than 1mm please let me know and I can adjust the gap between cap and bottom. If you are interested in round holders I can provide 40mm round cases that are about 6mm thick, these cases also have siloxane coatings on the top and bottom to hold your section securely and allow views of all surface without removing slice from case. These will only accommodate slices up to 3mm thick. THESE ARE ALSO NOT FOR SALE! I am only offering to share them with you to get feedback and maybe offer them in the future. If you have micro pieces, I can provide smaller round cases that will accommodate 1mm thick chips and slices that don't exceed 20mm in any dimension. Please contact me if you are interested in getting samples, I generally mail tem out once a week and just ask for feedback in return. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 1:24 PM To: "Chris Spratt" Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] thin section storage Hi Gang, Look on eBay for microscope slide cases. There are tons of them of various designs and sizes. Some are the nice "vintage" wooden ones and some are modern plastic. Prices vary with the selection. I've seen some large ones that hold hundreds of slides. With such a container, even the largest collection could fit into a single container. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/14/10, Chris Spratt wrote: David New had a great box. Held 25 thin sections and made of wood but his supplier dried up. I managed to acquire three cardboard type over the years from Russ Kempton but he is out of that type. He may have a lead on new boxes. I recently acquired a thin section which is longer than the others in my collection it came in a snap together plastic holder. Ward's can be pricey and difficult to deal with, if you only want to place a small order. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 14, 2010
That SEM image is amazing! Do you know how much was etched away for that? is it microns or more? Thanks for sharing, Rob Holcomb Meteorite Preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Michael Johnson" Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:18 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 14, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_14_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Thank you! Now I'll have something to do in the dark evenings now that DST has past. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Meteorites USA" Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN You can watch Season 2 Episode 1 & 2 on Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Site-Kansas/dp/B004AUELE2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1289443607&sr=8-13 Season 1: http://www.amazon.com/Odessa-Iron-Meteorite-Crater-Texas/dp/B004AKCMN4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1289443607&sr=8-8 Enjoy... Eric On 11/10/2010 6:26 PM, Rob Holcomb wrote: Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels and would like to see what all the excitement is about. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Stuart McDaniel" Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM To: "Michael Blood" ; "Meteorite List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Confirmed details and graphic -- a jet contrail
One issue I find hard to understand is the video clearly shows a "slow" moving object compared to a missile launch. rockets tend to be very fast, you can visibly see the movement relative to clouds and alien space craft, where with an aircraft the movement is had to see sometimes when you see it from hundreds of miles away. watch around 30 seconds to see the speed of ascent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnWpJZkvq0o Robert Ellsworth pointed out it could be a ICBM, since it looks like an air-breathing flight instead of sub-orbital. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "R N Hartman" Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:51 AM To: "Ted Bunch" ; "Meteorite1" ; "George Blahun" Cc: Subject: [meteorite-list] Confirmed details and graphic -- a jet contrail Plane identified as being exactly in the path of the contrail at the exact time and correct altitude. Coming from Hawaii and passing over Catalina Island on way to Phoenix. Exact match and all details explained. See the explanation: http://www.examiner.com/weather-in-los-angeles/missile-launch-over-southern-california-explained and details of the plane's flight and flight path graphic. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX. Google search: southerncaliforniaweatherauthority Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: "George Blahun" To: "Ted Bunch" Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail After reserving judgement I find myself in the "probably aircraft" camp. What I find somewhat unsettling is after a couple days of wondering, the FAA, the military and the government aren't able to say with certainty what it was. This isn't an illegal alien slipping across the border, it's a big contrail leaving craft. If it can leave a contrail, there should be a record of it. I suppose it could have been a black project, but even then I'd expect a cover story which was definitive. George __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN
Are these shows available on the Internet? I don't get any premium channels and would like to see what all the excitement is about. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Stuart McDaniel" Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM To: "Michael Blood" ; "Meteorite List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Yes it was!!! AWESOME!!! Geoff and Steve both episodes so far have been great!! -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE MEN Did y'all see the latest METEORITE MEN? Killer Vaca Muerta recovery. Possibly the Best specimen ever - certainly the best I have seen. Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
I thought it was Sarah Palin's ego taking a spaceship to the moon. :-) There are rather common sightings here, the actual missile contrail is usually very fast. I remember the ABM tests over the Pacific and it was pretty cool to watch. Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Meteorites USA" Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:53 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Nancy and Rush got married and that was their spaceship to the Moon... ;) On 11/10/2010 5:41 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: You got it all wrong. Nancy is fine. It was Rush Limbaugh who finally blew up! Good riddance. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 11/10/2010 6:36:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Dr. Ted, best one yet. - Original Message - From: "Ted Bunch" To:; Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail Not a meteorite, Nancy Pelosi. Ted __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorite display and storage boxes
Hello Meteorite Collectors, Keeping your meteorites below 30% humidity can significantly extend their original appearance and reduce the corrosion observed after extended storage. For all order from my website ( http://www.rholcomb.com ) 3 gram silica gel desiccant sachets and 30-50% humidity indicator cards are added to every box larger than 4 cubic inches. For the smaller 1.5 (1x2x3/4") & 3 (2x2x3/4") cubic inch boxes I provide 1 gram silica gel sachets for each box and will provide the humidity indicator card with the tall storage box (it's 2x3" and won't fit in the little cases.). If anyone desires meteorite encapsulation in transparent silicone (use as a paperweight or super balls.) this can be offered on a piece by piece basis. My normal encapsulant is a two-part, clear, room temperature cured silicone so it won't damage your meteorites, this material offers good strength, UL and Mil Spec compliance and can be removed entirely at any time in the future. This is the same lining offered that prevents the sample from sliding in the storage box when it is moved, a very NICE material. Every order over $100 ships free to US addresses and $8.00 to the rest of the world! Shipping options to Europe have been updated! Thank you to everyone that has been taking advantage of my offerings and I hope that you will consider me for your next purchase of meteorite and fossil storage boxes. If there is any sizes you want that are not offered, please contact me for off the shelf sizes up to bowling balls. :-) Have a great evening! Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Petroglyphs or Yoni questions
Hi Thomas, If I remember correctly there was a usage for Yoni as a description of canyons or rock formations that resemble female genitals and the hoodoo resembled a male. And in Nevada there were several places with these formations with names like "virgin valley" (famous for opals) and Queen Valley... Check some of the Goddess and Earth Mother sources for references to Yoni, try "Sacred Places of Goddess" by Karen Tate, isbn: 9781888729115 Rob Holcomb Safer Storage for your meteorites www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Thomas" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:52 PM Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Petroglyphs >On 11/4/2010 9:00 AM, Count Deiro wrote: >Dave Holt, has never heard of the "Valley of the Yoni" in Nevada, Count, I was concerned that I might not be remembering this correctly so I rechecked the source. It was in a story by Tom Robbins titled "Canyon of the Vaginas", so I did get it wrong, but in my defense I think he refers to it as valley of the yonis in the text. Canyon of the Vaginas may not be the correct name either. Robbins made it clear that he was aware of the potential for abuse at these sights so he may have altered the name to help protect the place, or may have simply created a name that he thought was more humorous. Thomas M __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps ?
Hi Thomas, There are petroglyphs all over the desert Southwest and many of the best are not recorded on public sources. There are many scholarly sources that show these sights, but that means you need access to the archeological peer reviewed journals to find them. I've found that many times I might be looking down at the dry lake for meteorites and don't find anything, but if I spend 20 minutes going up a canyon I'll find other treasures. This could be petroglyphs, stone tools, or even a buffalo jump of two on the eastern side of the Rockies. The caves are everywhere, even here in the San Francisco Bay Area there are outcrops in the coastal mountains that have evidence of early life, particularly stone tools and carvings. Do they have secret maps? Maybe, but I've never found any, even back when I did land title data work for the BLM. Rob Holcomb Meteorite Boxes for collectors, http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: "Thomas" Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:33 PM Cc: Subject: [meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps ? Last week I was walking along a dry lake bed and looked up to see the inevitable white truck parked next to mine. I walked back and had a nice talk with a BLM officer. He was concerned that we were picking up artifacts, which we were not. My wife mentioned that we were going to look for some petroglyphs and asked him about the roads in that area. "No Mam", he says. "We can't tell you anything about locations. In fact there are many more petroglyphs and over a hundred caves that are not on your maps and we can't tell you anything about." Which makes me think that these locations must be a matter of record somewhere. Does the BLM have secret maps not available to the public? Thomas M Petroglyph pictures if anyone's interested : http://www.photoblog.com/GreyDX/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Earth!
That's a pretty cool app to use. I found out I need to be a long way away from the epicenter if a rock the size of San Francisco impacts near me! Rob Holcomb www.rholcomb.com PS: I've added free desiccant and humidity indicators to every order from my website! Keeping your meteorites at or below 30% RH should greatly reduce the corrosion rate (Dang thermodynamics!). -- From: "Meteorites USA" Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:29 PM To: "Meteorite-list" Subject: [meteorite-list] Impact Earth! Impact Earth! - Ever wondered what would happen if an asteroid hit your city? Well now you can find out! http://www.mhcmagazine.com/blog/impact-earth/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Worried about meteorite storage? I've got boxes galore!
Hello Meteorite Friends! I posted a nice selection of meteorite boxes on my website, http://www.rholcomb.com, ranging from small 1" x 2" x 0.75" clear acrylic boxes to 9.5" cubes to hold your large samples. All boxes are made from clear acrylic/styrene and can be sealed permanently if desired (as a service since I can't ship the solvent or you can get it done at most local plastics shops.). There is also an option to include a silicone elastomeric liner if you desire to prevent sliding around and scratching the box. The silicone doesn't outgas acetic acid or methanol, instead it is a platinum catalyzed product that retains a night tackiness. Two items that you'll want to include in your box are desiccant packets or small drying button and a humidity indicator. They are on order and should be available this week. I am also working on a slice holder that allows all of the surface of the slice to be viewed or even displayed with a rear illuminating light. It is a little different that the Membrane Box. Here's a little movie showing how my idea works, http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/MBoxes/slicebox.mp4 Hope you find this interesting and appropriate. Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Worried about meteorite storage? I've got boxes galore!
Hello Meteorite Friends! I posted a nice selection of meteorite boxes on my website, ranging from small 1" x 2" x 0.75" clear acrylic boxes to 9.5" cubes to hold your large samples. All boxes are made from clear acrylic/styrene and can be sealed permanently if desired (as a service since I can't ship the solvent or you can get it done at most local plastics shops.). There is also an option to include a silicone elastomeric liner if you desire to prevent sliding around and scratching the box. The silicone doesn't outgas acetic acid or methanol, instead it is a platinum catalyzed product that retains a night tackiness. Two items that you'll want to include in your box are desiccant packets or small drying button and a humidity indicator. They are on order and should be available this week. I am also working on a slice holder that allows all of the surface of the slice to be viewed or even displayed with a rear illuminating light. It is a little different that the Membrane Box. Here's a little movie showing how my idea works, http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/MBoxes/slicebox.mp4 Hope you find this interesting and appropriate. Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com/MBoxes.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) Large selection of Omani Meteorites
Listing is for a collection of Chondrite Meteorites found in the Dhofar / Al Wusta region of Oman during 2008. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250713148220 ITEM DETAILS: This listing is for OVER 200 (4000+ grams) assorted meteorites, all bagged and tagged! http://4-kats.homeip.net/rfs/pile-anon.jpg Also there is a link to a complete list of the meteorites at the end of the description! And pictures of the in-situ rocks can be seen in this document, http://4-kats.homeip.net/RfS/Meteorite_Contactsheet.pdf, with a nice fusion crust. These are ordinary Chondrites found embedded in the desert pavement so there may be some siliceous or carbonaceous caliche material on the rock. This can often be removed using a soft brush or even compressed air. The smallest meteorites are ~3.1 grams and the largest is 367 grams. This collection isn't full of little chips and small fragments, but instead has great rocks that show fantastic fusion crust and some are complete fragments. These meteorites are from the Mystical Arabian Peninsula country of Oman (Rub al Khali) and are available directly from me or through eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250713148220. Please email and we can discuss terms and such. Other Info: Most meteorites found on trips to Oman are ordinary chondrites and are small and not suitable for scientific study, but make excellent gifts for space fans, geological travelers and rock-hounds all around the world. And so I am letting this one go for a very good price. Many meteorites that have fallen in desert areas, like The Arabian Desert in Oman (Close to the Empty Quarter), don't weather quickly, but instead remain at or near the surface. The wind moves sand and debris to cover the meteorites one year and then exposes them the next so even when others have searched an area their tires can disturb the desert pavement enough that new meteorites are exposed during the next winds storm. Link to the table of meteorites: Click Here http://4-kats.homeip.net/rfs/list.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Art - Art with meteorites?
Hi Sergey, My listings have been messed up today, but it appears that it has been fixed this afternoon. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250709559875 Regards, Rob Holcomb -- From: "Sergey Vasiliev" Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 1:13 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Art - Art with meteorites? If anybody knows how to ask ebay for some compensation for their outworking service? ;-) I have my ebay page looking like that: http://sv-meteorites.com/gallery/ebay.doc Regards, Sergey On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Sergey Vasiliev wrote: Agree with Count, Just walk out to see the sunrise or sunset. Sergey On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Count Deiro wrote: Martin and List, Not ART...but NATURE... Thin sections as art equate with opening a geode and proudly showing the contents in the light of day. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann Sent: Oct 11, 2010 10:08 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Art - Art with meteorites? Art. http://www.meteorite-pictures.org/Meteorite-Thin-Section-Pictures/NWA-2977-1 0.jpg http://www.meteorite-pictures.org/Meteorite-Thin-Section-Pictures/Mount-Taze rait-1.jpg -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von JoshuaTreeMuseum Gesendet: Montag, 11. Oktober 2010 18:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Art - Art with meteorites? Hello Martin, Yes, I like that. Quite a lot, actually. But that's performance art, not conceptual art. Thanks for the links, you're always very helpful and a great asset to the List. Phil Whitmer --- Hi Phil, but maybe you like that? Artist Agnes Meyer-Brandis put on a meteorite impact on public space in Yekaterinburg in 2009. http://www.goethe.de/ins/ru/lp/prj/art/kue/mey/akt/ruindex.htm http://www.ffur.de/impact Also a Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] International Shipping/Customs Questions
That is a very interesting discussion and clearly points out the nuances of the labeling and not the actual package contents. I had a package of "geologic samples" opened once in US Customs, it was resealed with approximately 2 rolls of TSA sealing tape because they couldn't figure out how to close the container once they opened it. "The agent doesn't care what it is, so long as it fits neatly and legally in the paperwork" is SO true! Do you know about Vogons and their bureaucratic BS? Rob H http://www.insanecows.com http://robholcomb.redbubble.com -- From: "MEM" Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:44 PM To: "Matthew Martin" ; "meteorite list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] International Shipping/Customs Questions Hello Matt, List Disclaimer: This below discussion is for entertainment purposes only and the reader should consult their own legal services for legal advice as applicable. All those terms you mention apply to "meteorites" legally and legitimately. Meteorites are a subset of rocks so they are "geological samples". If you mark the contents as "meteorite" you are inviting pilferage and the kind of inquiry noted. To my knowledge "meteorite" is not a classification in the tariff tables so it can be subjectively placed within a more expensive tariff class if the customs agent is having a bad day. I prefer the declaration "geological specimen for study" vs "scientific" as it removes any question of it not being a "biological sample". So if you declare it a "geological sample for study" the customs agent can check the little box on the computer screen and your packages is on its way. The agent doesn't care what it is, so long as it fits neatly and legally in the paperwork. Don't give them a motive to think outside the box. Here are several facts regarding the nuances of shipping into the US and an example of how items can have multiple "values" legally. Under US import rules, scientific samples are not duty-able, however biological samples can be embargoed/quarantined for additional information-- invite inspection at a Level 3 containment facility and be arbitrarily destroyed if everything is not letter perfect including CITES compliance certification( Endangered Species Compliance). Technically, if importing/mailing "rocks" vs "geological samples" into the US, you may have also have to certify that they have been autoclaved in an oven at 250(?) degrees F for 2 hours(?) to kill nematodes. Once again, "geological samples for study" invites the least attention both by customs agents and thieves. One gray area is the value declaration "No Commercial value(NCV)". My rule of thumb is, if the intrinsic value of a specimen is substantially less then its study value ( NOTE: I am not addressing "collector's value" for then is may have commercial value) then you can still insure it under the theory of asset/replacement value and still legally and legitimately declare "No commercial value". Importing small quantities of rocks and or minerals into the US is generally not taxed. If shipping a specimen outside the US where they have hard line import/VAT fees I believe you are entitled declare NCV but if you insure it for extraordinary value then depending on country to country the insurance value might invoke Duty/Vat charges on the customer. CAVEATS: If you are importing "ruby facet rough" for the purpose of making your own finished stones, then I am not sure you are entitled to use "NCV or Geological sample for study" in the customs declaration. If however you are redistributing/reselling it or reshipping it to others who may be only buying it for a "study sample", then you might be able to legally use "NCV/Specimen for study". It is a gray area and depends on if you are receiving a small packet or a Sea-Land 40ft container. "Country of Origin" can a problem if importing material which was originally recovered in Mymimar or pearls from Tahiti(?) unless they contain within the packing the words " Collected before embargo" assuming they were in fact from old collections. Intrinsic vs Commercial vs Asset valuation. You go to on expedition to Greenland for 4 weeks and collect fossil bearing rocks for distribution to other researchers or for your own amateur study ( NOTE: "Research" includes "study" but "study" doesn't always imply "research". The exclusion wording in US law is " specimens for study"). The rocks themselves, in the low quantity you are shipping/importing, are "intrinsically" equal to "gravel" in value-- limestone is limestone is limestone--10 cents per lb at your local landscaper. In and of itself. a specimen, or crate thereof, may not have intrinsic value. Exceptions maybe precious metal nuggets where intrinsic value could be argued but are generally never questioned by customs unless they have extraordinary value like several thousand coin of the realm. If they are
[meteorite-list] Sale: 4 Kilos of meteorites
Hi listers, I have a small pile of meteorites from listed for sale. Over 200 individuals offered, or about 4 Kilograms of fine rocks. These were all collected on a trip to the Middle East in 2008 and have been stored ever since. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260672921870 If you are within 100 miles of the SF Bay area, give me a personal email and we can arrange a meeting. Rob Holcomb http://www.insanecows.com http://robholcomb.redbubble.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: CA,AZ, NV,UT Meteor 24SEP2010
That would be one amazing fireball, persistence of over 30 minutes over southern California? Probably a military launch rather than a meteor. After the Anti-Missile trials of Oct 2005, I don't trust these reports that aren't supported by radar. Have a great Sunday hunting the Sonoran desert! Rob -- From: "John.L.Cabassi" Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:45 PM To: "'drtanuki'" ; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: CA,AZ, NV,UT Meteor 24SEP2010 G'Day Dirk and List Come on now, something finally crosses my area and everything goes quiet. No radar images. It's a perfect weekend here in LA. Clear skies, nice and hot. In fact, I'm sitting back waiting for 9.41 tonight to watch the launch of Minotaur IV from Vandenberg AFB. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of drtanuki Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: CA,AZ, NV,UT Meteor 24SEP2010 Dear List, Meteor detected in CA, AZ, and UT about one hour ago. Dirk Ross...Tokyo Chino Valley, Arizona meteor arizona 24 september 2010. 14:08:36 -- 25 seconds ago Hesperia, California Fireball September, 24 2010. 14:06:18 -- 2 minutes ago San Bernardino, California a meteor sightings sept 24 2010. 13:59:59 -- 9 minutes ago Los Angeles, California fireball sightings in inland empire california sept 24 2010. 13:55:56 -- 13 minutes ago Lakeside, California shooting star sightings sept. 24 2010. 13:43:38 -- 25 minutes ago Las Vegas, Nevada meteor in california on september 24, 2010. 13:36:18 -- 32 minutes ago Lake Hughes, California large meteor in West Sept 24 2010. 13:30:58 -- 38 minutes ago United States glowing fireball over mi sept 24 2010. 13:29:56 -- 39 minutes ago Goodyear, Arizona r Sep 24 2010 meteor sighting Phoenix Az 2010. 13:20:02 -- 48 minutes ago Chino Hills, California meteor september 24 2010. 13:16:16 -- 52 minutes ago __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Was: GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting Now:Ethics and Meteorite Find Locations
Hi All, I know some people who totally agree with the statement, "There are folks out there who consider the location of their finds their personal strewn fields and intentionally desseminate inaccurate coordinates to throw off competitors and collectors. I suppose they can make a good argument for doing it." So I guess the locations should be suspect. Rob H -- From: "drtanuki" Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:25 PM To: ; "Countdeiro" Subject: [meteorite-list] Was: GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting Now:Ethics and Meteorite Find Locations Count and List, This would involve ethics or the lack of them on the part of the finder IF true? Would a person or persons willing to lie on a find location lie about other things? Good work Count! Others? Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Mon, 9/13/10, countde...@earthlink.net wrote: From: countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting To: "David Norton" , "'Michael Blood'" Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 3:14 AM David said, "Any coordinates in the MetBul prior to the advent of the GPS system must be considered suspect." I'm afraid that the accuracy of locations since the introduction of the GPS system are still suspect. In just a few months of field research on recent finds in the Western USA, I came across GPS coordinates that were obviously off by miles. For instance, there's a rare CM1 find whose Googled MetBul location puts it a vacant lot in a residential sub-division. There are folks out there who consider the location of their finds their personal strewn fields and intentionally desseminate inaccurate coordinates to throw off competitors and collectors. I suppose they can make a good argument for doing it. Regards, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: David Norton Sent: Sep 12, 2010 9:25 AM To: 'Michael Blood' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting On a conceptual this sounds great. One flaw in deployment is the accuracy of the gps coordinates that you may have for any given find. There are coordinates in MetBul that are accurate within 20 miles or sothats' a lot of dirt. Any coordinates in MetBul prior to the advent of the GPS system must be considered suspect. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting Hi all, I have come to realize there is a crucial tool for meteorite Hunting that I have yet to hear of anyone using: iPad using "Google Earth" with the GPS coordinates. To use this tool in the field, you must have one of the Models with G3 capability. That said, you can not only locate Coordinates easily, you can SEE the area you are searching With great clarity - and also check any "Utube" videos of other Hunts in the given area, and any other information you may Want from the internet WHILE you are in the field, the price Sounds compelling, since I hear the better GPS units start at about $200 and the cheaper ones are at least $100. I have located the cheapest method of purchasing a unit. It goes from $629- with FREE shipping to $829 depending on Gigabytes you Desire, so and have decided to provide a link from my site. However, the best anyone can explain me is the more gigabytes you have the more movies and videos you can STORE on the device, so, personally, I see little to be gained by spending the additional $ for more gigs unless you, personally make a LOT of videos and want all of them on your iPad. Otherwise, any other source can be accessed by the device, so, why store it IN the device? Perhaps I am wrong here, if so, would someone on the list please clarify additional advantages To purchasing massive Gigs on this unit. Regardless, 1) Go to: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ 2) Click on the RED banner ad: "Sales and Freebies" left of The Banner Ad for IMPACTICA. 3) On the new page, near the top, click on "iPad" 4) On the newer page, again click on "iPad" 5) On this page, scroll down to "iPad Starting at $499" go to The right of it and UNDER "On Line Store" click on "Buy Now" (this will NOT be committing you to any purchase) 6) you will now be on a page offering the lowest prices for An iPad possible: 16GB1 * Ships: Within 24hrs * Free Shipping * $629.00 * Pre-Order iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G 16GB 32GB1 * Ships: Within 24hrs * Free Shipping * $729.00 * Pre-Order iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G 32GB 64GB1 * Ships: Within 24hrs * Free Shipping * $829.00 Best wishes, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecen
Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?
That's amazing for only $1.7 million! Makes my volcanic breccia from the North Cascades look real good. Rob H. -- From: "Michael Blood" Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:35 PM To: "Met. Michael Gilmer" ; "Meteorite List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars? This might be one. http://cgi.ebay.com/North-American-Lunar-Meteorite-/120618283540?pt=LH_Defau ltDomain_0&hash=item1c1568f214 Michael On 9/6/10 2:05 PM, "Met. Michael Gilmer" wrote: Hi List, Is there a theory for why there have been no witnessed falls of lunar meteorites? It seems odd to me that we have 4 Martian witnessed falls (Shergotty, Chassigny, Zagami, Nakhla, and almost Lafayette) and no lunars. I also find it odd that no lunaites have been recovered from the Americas or Europe. It would seem that we are long overdue for two things to happen - for a lunaite to be recovered in the Americas/Europe and for a lunar witnessed fall. I wonder which will happen first? Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale oneBay
Hi Tom, Sorry to hear about your loss. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have experienced their "protection" before and in cases where they have offered the buyer or seller protection PayPal has paid the claim directly. but that is ONLY valid on eBay sales. If you accept or pay for a non-eBay sale using PayPal, you are totally out of luck if there are no funds available to do a chargeback. The best case in that instance is that you used a bank issued credit card to fund the payment, that way you can dispute the charge with the issuer and they WILL take action to get your money back from PayPal (because PayPal is a vendor and not a bank they can easily run charge-backs on them.). Happy Hunting, Rob H Some of my favorites: http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/rock/DSC_5165e.jpg http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/rock/DSC_5134.jpg http://4-kats.homeip.net/auctionpics/rock/5333 jpg -- From: Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:41 PM To: ; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale oneBay Hi Count, Great to hear from you. This is getting off topic for meteorites but I thought I would share that, as of yet, no one has said they have had any dealings with this seller. I lost out on a $360 microscope part that was not sent. It was a total loss for me. Paypal only helps if they still have $ in the account. If it is a scam and the account is drawn down before you know the item has not arrived (and is never going to arrive), Paypal offers no help. Tom In a message dated 8/30/2010 1:35:55 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, countde...@earthlink.net writes: Hi Tom, I believe this purchase would be covered under eBay's Buyer Protection Plan. Give it a look. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: starsinthed...@aol.com Sent: Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale on eBay Hi list, I am looking at a nice Gebel Kamil meteorite listed on eBay but the seller has 0 feedback and absolutely no history of happy buyers. I have attached the link to the auction. I was wondering if any of you know this seller and can say anything positive or negative. I would gladly purchase this example for the price it is offered at if I had some certainly I would receive it. Thanks, Tom Phillips Auction title: Egypt, Jabel Kamil new meteorites 480.0 gm wow big sale Auction link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260657796857 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Yeah, sure-gettite
Also the magnet was probably coated with double stick tape since he said it sticks to magnets in some parts. I think that is Red-Neck for in that one specific place where the tape is. I like the "artwork" explanation for the claim about being Martian. Go out and look at the Moon and Mars tonight! Rob H -- From: "Ed Deckert" Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:25 PM To: "meteorite list" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Yeah, sure-gettite I really love ebay's definition of used that they manage to insert into all auctions for "used" items... Used: An item that has been used previously. I'm sure glad they pointed that out for everyone! LOL! Ed - Original Message - From: "Don Giovanni" To: "meteorite list" Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Yeah, sure-gettite If anyone has been looking for a Martian meteorite with the specific lithologies of "shinny looking crystal type things" (and better yet, they're "imbeded") but maybe you only have $7,500.00 to spend, I may be able to point you in the right direction. It must be a sweet deal, as it was found in the "high dessert". http://cgi.ebay.com/MARTIAN-METEORITE-micro-ART-ROCK-FOUND-DESERT-/320580714564?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_500wt_1154 (PS - In case you're going back and forth but just not sure, the clincher.free shipping) (PPS - "item condiion" is listed as "Used") Don __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15740) http://www.pctools.com/ === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15740) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SouthWest Dry Lake Bed Thunderstorm pictures
Looks like the khareef in the southern Arabian Peninsula. Flash floods are a real killer, I was in one in '98 that killed 5 people and don't ever want to in one again. Hunt the Lunar! But take a peek at the Moon and Mars tonight. Rob H -- From: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:04 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] SouthWest Dry Lake Bed Thunderstorm pictures Hi All, I added a few pictures from one of my recent hunting trips on my web page. Thanks, Sonny P.S. I am still looking for that first USA lunar in Nevada! ; ) http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Thunderstorm_over_a_Southwest_Dry_lakebed.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August20, 2010
Great find Bob! I've been out in that area south of Trona and have had good luck. But I'm a newbie at this and want to ask 2 questions: Is the Nomenclature Committee part of IMCA? And if I find something how do I report it? Thanks for your help Rob -- From: "Richard Kowalski" Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:26 PM To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August20, 2010 Shocking! A new find and not only the location but the Lat & Long are visible in the image! Congrats to Rob & Bob on their find. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Michael Johnson wrote: From: Michael Johnson Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 20, 2010 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:07 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/August_20_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
I'm normally just a lurker here on the forum, soaking up info and playing with my meteorites. Barry, This is such a great response to the message below, and quite reasonable in the rebuke area considering the original message. I've considered membership in IMCA just so I could better connect to other collectors and dealers to both buy and sell rocks from space. Everyone have a great weekend! Rob http://rob.holcomb.redbubble.com -- From: "Norbert Classen" Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:21 AM To: "'Barry Hughes'" ; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram Hello Barry, I usually won't even respond to that kind of unqualified "IMCA bashing" emails, but since you seem to be new to meteorites and the meteorite community I'd like to say a few words, just for the records & in public: You actually applied for IMCA membership less than a few weeks ago, but when I told you that your recommending members would have to write us a short recommendation letter you backed out and told me that you weren't aware that recommendation letters were required - even though this is clearly stated on our "Join" page and repeated in the confirmation email sent out by our system. I didn't hold this against you, and I still don't. I even helped you with the identification of the "lunar meteorite wrong" that kindled your interest in meteorites about six months ago. You thanked me for that, and wrote: "I think of the IMCA as an organization representative of honesty and responsibility and will some day be happy to join if you will have me." And I told you that you would be welcome. So what made you change your mind that fast? Now you are calling our Vice-President words (which I won't repeat, and for which you already apologized, somewhat halfheartedly), and you are calling the IMCA a "corrupt organization"... Based on what? The "confidential information" of people who weren't accepted as IMCA members in the past, or former members who have been expelled from our Association for not respecting our simple Code of Ethics (to which each member agrees to adhere prior to joining)? People that might have an interest in instrumentalizing you as a newbie to "pay back" to the bad people at the big bad IMCA? Make sure where you get your "information" from. You seem to be easily impressed, and I recommend you not to take everything at face value what you are told. The IMCA is run by a Board of Directors consisting of 9 elected Board Members from 5 different countries, and most of us Board members are no meteorite dealers. And if the minority of Board Members who are dealers and could have "conflicting interests" were as "corrupt" as you might think, how does it come that they are elected and re-elected by our membership? How does it come that "conflicting interests" don't play any role when it comes to votes and decisions on our Board of Directors? I think I, as the President of this Association, should be aware of that, right? I can assure you that you are totally wrong, not just about Anne Black but also about our Association. The IMCA Board of Directors, including Anne Black, have been involved in helping clearing up the pairing situation of NWA 5400 and its aleged pairings ever since this subject has been brought to our attention. Many questions still need to be answered, but that's in the nature of the subject as it requires oxygen isotope testing and more - something that takes time; so please be patient in this regard, and don't jump to premature conclusions. Yes Barry, silence might be a plague sometimes, but it's sure better than to rant about people you barely know, and about subjects you are not familiar with. I still won't hold this against you as you are obviously a newbie, and easily impressed. Anyway, since you brought this up in public I thought a public response would be appropriate. And I think another apology to the entire IMCA would be in order - we are surely no "corrupt organization", and I and many other IMCA find it insulting that you are making such outrageous and unqualified statements in public. All the best, Norbert Classen President IMCA Inc. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- I'll tell you right know...I wanted to become a member of IMCA and asked a couple of good friends who agreed. .. RANT Snip! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids.
Just thought you all would enjoy this image. You've gotta see this! Great night photo of the meteor showers, by David A. Harvey, a professional photographer based in Tucson Arizona. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kYou0sYtaeI/TGUgBSFiZ3I/BwE/siGQmmSozig/s1600/_MG_6972sum_web.jpg Rob H. Meteorite Newbie (anyone want to sponsor me for IMCA membership?) -- From: "Linton Rohr" Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: "Michael Murray" ; "GREG LINDH" Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids. Greg, Michael, List, Glad to hear that many of you were able to enjoy the show. I spent three days up in the White Mountains, east of Bishop, CA, near the Nevada border. The area is home to the Bristlecone Pines - the oldest living things, at up to 4,000 years old. Being in the rain shadow of the Sierra Nevada, we didn't see a single cloud the whole time. The sky was very transparent, and dark enough that we were able to easily see the zodiacal light beginning around 3:00 or 3:30. We enjoyed plenty of DSO observing early on, when we weren't just sitting back watching for meteors. I didn't have a counting device, but I'd estimate we saw about 100 before midnight, and another 200 between midnight and 4:00. They seemed to be almost equally divided between bright ones with ion trails and faint ones without. Of the bright ones, almost half of them had persistent trains, visible over 60-90 degrees across the sky. The shorter ones probably spanned 10-15 degrees. We had a couple of long "skippers", an orange "firework" that seemed to explode and then fall, and even a very bright one that might have qualified as a bolide. A great night, all in all. One that I'll always remember. Linton - Original Message - From: "Michael Murray" To: "GREG LINDH" Cc: "meteorite-list" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids. We had clear skies here in southwest CO. I was out watching starting at about 9 PM. Saw an eyepopper of a meteor at about 9:15. Long tail, orange tint to it. I'm certainly no expert on meteors but sure looked to me like this one made it into dark flight. I've seen a daytime fireball and watched the big one that went over to California a while back at night but the first one I saw last night was by far more spectacular to see. Last night, I also watched several that were multiple pieces of 3 or more traveling side by side. They went pretty much directly overhead going north to south. For the last few years we had clouds during the Persieds. Nice to finally get to watch some of the shower. Mike in CO On Aug 13, 2010, at 6:06 AM, GREG LINDH wrote: I stayed up all night to watch the Perseids. I laid back on a chaise lounge, put my IPod on, and looked up. I live in Prescott Valley AZ. which is about 5100 feet elevation, so the sky was dark and crystal clear. Well, it's now 5:00 in the morning and the eastern sky is starting to lighten, so I came in. I counted a total of 183 meteors. Some were quite brilliant. Also a number of satellites. Nice night. Greg L.__ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
