[meteorite-list] Re: New Swiss Fall
.This lovely specimin, I'm sure, will be guarded, cherished, and never less than the brightest star! Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gravitational Hot-Spots?
I'm sitting here wondering why I never had a meteorite come crashing down through my roof; why I can't afford the time nor expense to casually buz over to Forrest Park and pick up a goodie on the streets; why, it seems that the only way I can get a meteorite is by submitting THREE entries in the "Meteorites are Cool Because" contest. I detected some jealousy from the list when I won the Gao Guenie. Now it's time for ME to be jealous. WAH! WAH! BOO HOO! I'm jealous of all you lucky duckies who live near Forrest Park, or who simply have the leisure to travel there and look! There! I said it! Quick! Somebody give me a binky! O.K.Now that Iv'e vented, Here is a question to the group. Does it seem that meteorite falls are more consistent in certain areas? If so, why? Is it possible that when matter enters the atmosphere, it is conducted to um.areas where the gravitational pull is greater than in other areas? Is it possible that magnetic forces might pool in certain areas throughout the world, drawing meteorites to specific places? Could this be why nobody hardly EVER has found any meteorites here in my native Utah? Hey Y'all! I'm poor! I can't afford to go to the Sahara, the Arctic, Forrest Park Canada...or even to my neighboring Arizona! Am I on to something? Could this be true? Am I doomed to never find a meteorite as long as I'm looking in Utah? Rand
[meteorite-list] Propagation
Um...I had my two meteorites fixed. They make much better pets. Rand. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation
I think we are talking about what happens when you drink too much on the golf course: Too STONED to find the right IRON! Um, This may be considered, STONE-cold IRONy. In any case, your post made it difficult to remain STONEfaced. Later! I've got to go IRON my shirt. Got a date tonight at the PALACE HEIGHTS Ball Room. Rand __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] All Stars
Hi everybody. This is Rand. No, I'm not a scientist. I don't work for NASA. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have a collection of meteorites. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm just a regular, average guy trying to figure things out the best I can. So far I've spent 18.5 years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. How ironic! I despise war. I have a profound respect for life and the environment. I saw a military career as an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family. I served in the war zone, but not as a combatant. I served in a combat support hospital in the Arabian Desert providing humane treatment for fellow soldiers and prisoners of war alike. Recently I was almost deployed again. Officials deemed it best that I stay home this time. I concur with their decision. My wife, Gina is severely disabled in advanced stages of multiple sclerosis. She needs me here. I'd like to share something with the list. One night my wife lay in her bed watching television. Observing the performers on screen she said, I wish I could be a star. I responded, You ARE a star! Right now as you fight this disease with all of your determination, You are a star! As you raised our children and worked to supplement our income, You were a star! As you aided your parents, their lives dwindling in their twilight, you were a star. As you continue your life, doing the very best you can do, you will continue on as a star! So are YOU ALL STARS! Each of you in your own way! Here in this list we have people from many walks of life, from countries around the world. Whatever your strengths may be, in each or your distinct assemblage of personality traits and talents, as you do your bestYou are ALL STARS! I'm honored to be among your associates. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites RAP Style
Meteorites are Cool RAP Style I was chill'n on da lawn neath a starry-speckled dawn, when I saw up in da sky what was candy to my eye; made my arm hairs stand on end and my knees give in and bend so I lay down on da ground, hoping no one was around 'cause I knew I looked insane, like a preacher in da rain singin glory Halelujah! Let me see dat once again! Der's a party goin on in da starry-speckled dawn! Der's a party goin on! Der's a party goin on! Der be meteors in flight dey be flyin left an right like a thousand fireflies through a magic summer night. It's a shower from beyond; from da fairie's magic wand. It's a scattering of stardust dat I see above da lawn. Der's a party goin! Der's a party goin on! Der's a party goin on or'e da court yard in da dawn. We be lookin in da sand. We be lookin left an right. Wanna find one when it lands, when its burned up in its light. Gotta find a thing dey call a mee-dee-eee-dee-odor-ite Gotta put one in my hand. Gota search all through da land! Gotta find a piece o heaven. Gotta hold it in my hand! Der's a party goin on in da starry-speckled dawn! Der's a party goin on! Der's a party goin on! Gotta find a piece o heaven. Gotta hold it in my hand! Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Are...
Meteorites are Cool- 3rd Entry O.K. You've heard from me before, but here goes again. Here are the REAL reasons why meteorites are cool...from my own personal perspective: Somehow the universe and everything in it is tied together by one common thread. Like an eternally lengthy necklace strung with a myriad of beads, we, the trees, the whales and the birds, the plankton and the amarilis, the primrose and the lynxs.are all part of one whole, strung together on a force whose nature we seek to understand. This force is the essence of creation. We call it God, Nature, carma, the Great Spirit.(Among many names.) We have tried to define it throughout our history. We have organized religions. We have fought wars over it. We have marveled at the overwhelming futility of trying to define eternity, the beginning of creation and the intelligence behind it all. We are agnostics, nostics, Christian Scientists, Shintos, Budhists, Muslim, Jew, Mormon, Quaker...We are a quilt-work of hundreds or disciplines which all attempt to define our existence. We reach out to find something physical to touch and see, which is ancient, magical, and from the very heavens from which our creation originated. This is why meteorites are cool from my point of view. A meteorite IS physical! I can touch a meteorite! I can see a meteorite! A meteorite indeed seems magical and IS from the heavensmore ancient and magical than any concrete object I know of. A meteorite is a capsule of creational clues which, to an imaginative mind such as mine, comes straight from the hand of the creator bearing an invitation to us; saying, STUDY ME! PRESERVE ME! TREASURE ME! I bare the answers to the mystery you seek to solve.THE MYSTERY OF CREATION! Rand Kluge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Are...
Meteorites are Cool- 3rd Entry O.K. You've heard from me before, but here goes again. Here are the REAL reasons why meteorites are cool...from my own personal perspective: Somehow the universe and everything in it is tied together by one common thread. Like an eternally lengthy necklace strung with a myriad of beads, we, the trees, the whales and the birds, the plankton and the amarilis, the primrose and the lynxs.are all part of one whole, strung together on a force whose nature we seek to understand. This force is the essence of creation. We call it God, Nature, carma, the Great Spirit.(Among many names.) We have tried to define it throughout our history. We have organized religions. We have fought wars over it. We have marveled at the overwhelming futility of trying to define eternity, the beginning of creation and the intelligence behind it all. We are agnostics, nostics, Christian Scientists, Shintos, Budhists, Muslim, Jew, Mormon, Quaker...We are a quilt-work of hundreds or disciplines which all attempt to define our existence. We reach out to find something physical to touch and see, which is ancient, magical, and from the very heavens from which our creation originated. This is why meteorites are cool from my point of view. A meteorite IS physical! I can touch a meteorite! I can see a meteorite! A meteorite indeed seems magical and IS from the heavensmore ancient and magical than any concrete object I know of. A meteorite is a capsule of creational clues which, to an imaginative mind such as mine, comes straight from the hand of the creator bearing an invitation to us; saying, STUDY ME! PRESERVE ME! TREASURE ME! I bare the answers to the mystery you seek to solve.THE MYSTERY OF CREATION! Rand Kluge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Cool 'cause
Meteorites are cool because they come to us from places in space where we would never be able to travel. They're cool because they're like nothing earthly. They've been called rocks, but they're not really. In fact, they seem to be alive in ways. When I see a meteorite with it's fusion crust, it reminds me of a poor, sore little puppy with it's fur singed off and a toasted hide. My often over-imaginative mind can almost hear a whimper when I look at one of these wonderfully ancient messengers from the heavens. Ouch! atmospheric entry hurts! They're cool because they bring us clues concerning the nature of creation. They contain elements of life! They're cool because they seem to plan where they're going to land so that we have to work hard to find them, and they're cool because their mystique has brought you and me together and made us friends. Rand Kluge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Faux Pas
UmMy dear friends, Earlier I posted a message informing you of my obligatory meteorite exhibition to the other side of the world, complements of Uncle Sam. Well, I must inform you that, at least for me, that exhibition has been canceled. My leaders very appropriately ruled that I should remain here in the States. My wife...(She is wonderful.) has progressive multiple sclerosis. It would be very difficult for her should I leave. I was very worried about this. I'm glad and proud to say that the U.S. Army .though a forceful organization.still demonstrates a humane and compassionate faction. Rand Kluge P.S. I remain combing the deserts of Utah with hopes of finding my piece of the heavens. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Expedition
Hi everybody. Thought I might let y'all know that I'm going to have the chance to look for meteorites somewhere on the other side of the world. See, I'm a career military guy, U.S. Army. I will go this morning and get my shots and go through all of the other administrative stuff. I'm sure that I'll have access to a computer and will probably be able to keep posting to the group. Well, if I happen to find any meteorites over there, I'll surely be telling y'all about it. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Your Student
Hi! This is Rand. I've posted a few messages, but mostly, I've been reading your posts and visiting your sites. I'm far from being any kind of expert, soMay I be your student? I'd like to ask some questions, and would greatly appreciate any replies. O.K.? So...I really like getting out to prospect for meteorites. I have a Goldbug II detector, which I really like, and a very strong magnet connected to a beaded chain. I dangle it over stones as I walk, and see what sticks. Recently I passed my magnet over a few stones strewn over the ground and picked up a black, heavy little thing about 1.5 in diameter and .5 thick. It stuck to my magnet as though it were pure iron, yet there seemed to be nothing ferrous about it. I brought it home and examined it with my jeweler's glass, and discovered that it had little white balls in it. Carbonaceous chondrite?I don't know. I sawed off a piece which I sent to the University of New Mexico Meteoritic center. I haven't received the results of the PIXE test yet. My question is this: Why did this little black stone stick to my magnet? It had no rust on it and frankly, didn't look like a meteorite. If it isn't a meteorite, what could it contain to stick so readily to my magnet? Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Big WOW
In Kalpana Chawla's last words to the media, she described one of her big WOWs of being an astronaut. She told about sitting next to a window of the space shuttle while looking down at our wonderful blue planet and it's swirling firmament of clouds. Refocusing, she then saw her own reflection in the shuttle window. Refocusing again, she saw the reflection of the earth in her own eyes. This, she said, was definitely a big WOW. Now, I've chosen to post this message to this list for various reasons. Firstly, I believe that the membership of our meteorite list is comprised of an extremely select group of highly intelligent human beings. Your common interest in meteorites, vessels of information about our existence; about, perhaps, the very creation of the entire universe,... is an omen of a deeper appreciation and reverent respect for that which is greater than us all. (I don't even begin to comprehend it.) There is, however, a feeling I get about space, the stars, the planets, meteorites, and US...that sets my mind spinning as would the needle of a compass in a void. The beautiful dark eyes of Kalpana no longer exist, but I can't help believing that the memory of her big WOW is somehow remembered in a plane of existence beyond my comprehension. Yet I continue to try to understand, and as I do, a feeling for humanity floods over me which I can only describe aslove. Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BRECCIA
Wow, Mohammed. If only I had the wonderful photographic equipment and abundance of time to dedicate to meteorite hunting that you evidently have! That large inclusion in your stone is suspiciously reminiscent of brain coral. What a find! evidence of life from exospace? Remember what I said previously about your hunting grounds having once been at the bottom of an ancient sea? Your specimens are clear evidence of this. I'm learning on this list my friend. I'm paying very close attention...VERY CLOSE ATTENTION on how to recognize a meteorite. VERY CLOSE ATTENTION! Thanks for your condolences for our astronauts. Rand Kluge Dear List; First we regret to hear news about the space shuttle, we express our deep sorrow for this horrible accident that remind us with Challenger. Back to my rocks and I suppose this is the last update of mu hunts because my holiday is over (you will be happy I know!). I wonder if you still have any doubt that this nice rock here: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/pl9/ is (luner or not) breccia. Please check it out and send me your comments. Please notice the FLOW LINES in one part of this rock is identical to what I showed you before here: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/fl/ It seems to me that these latter rocks are from the original meteor that made the breccia. Sincerely Mohamed H. Yousef -- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] very exciting breccia
Well, well. I'm always impressed by the nice photos of wour wonderful rocks. See, I'm not an expert, but I'm paying very close attention to what's being presented through this list, and I'm learning. I understand that quartzite in any form is strictly terrestrial, and it seems that your rocks all have quartz in them. They all look like old stones from the bottom of an ancient sea of something. Just a humble observation. Rand a reay exciting breccia,, any comments are appreciated: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/pl5/ Mohamed Yousef == _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] very exciting breccia
Well, well. I'm always impressed by the nice photos of your wonderful rocks. See, I'm not an expert, but I'm paying very close attention to what's being presented through this list, and I'm learning. I understand that quartzite in any form is strictly terrestrial, and it seems that your rocks all have quartz in them. They all look like old stones from the bottom of an ancient sea of something. Just a humble observation. Rand a reay exciting breccia,, any comments are appreciated: http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/pl5/ Mohamed Yousef == _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] getting around in tucson
Forgive me Steve. Maybe there are things here I don't know about. Since I don't plan on going to Tucson, I haven't been paying much attention to what's been planned. But I'm sure that your trip will be much enhanced if you rent a car. It's really no fun to rely on inter-city transportation, especially if you are unfamiliar with the area. AND...It's very uncomfortable to limit yourself to someone else's itinerary if you happen to find someone gracious enough to haul you around. HOWEVER!...If you DO find someone kind enough to offer you their um..chauffeur services, I'm sure wou will tip them generously. Rand Kluge Hey there list. When I get to tucson, I was wondering, how am I going to get from place to place? Shuttle? Bus? Cab? Walk? Someone driving me?I do not plan to rent a car.I need suggestions please. steve Steve R. Arnold, Chicago, USA!! The Midwest Meteorite Collector! I.M.C.A. #6728 stormbringer60120.tripod.com - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Benben Stone
To those of you who have read my posts, I know that It's obvious that I lack the profound meteroritical knowledge I'm observing as I brouse through the wealth of information available on this list. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist. I haven't even found my first meteorite yet. I'm just an average guy with a wife and two almost-adult offspring who drive me crazy, and an equally maddening career in the U.S. Army. Oh, I'm not a total Jed Clampet. I do have a BA in Speech-communications and enough certificates of academia to wallpaper my house(military courses, community college courses and stuff.) I lived in Latin America and often surprise Native Spanish speakers when they hear this big nordic looking guy spout off the Castillian I love to speak. OH NO! I'M mot bragging! To the contrary! I'm just trying to say that the little education I have looks like a B.B. in the middle of the freeway compared to the genius I see here in your postings. SO...I venture to ask a question:Does anyone know about the Benben stone? You know, the oriented meteorite from which ancient Egyptians believe bore the beginnings of life to this planet. I think it's really interesting that chondrules contain amino acids; that salt crystals containg water have been found in meteorites and that, according to my often too active imagination, chondrites seem to be a strange combination of organic and mineral. Doesn't it almost seem like a meteorite is saying, OUCH! Gee I'm sore with this scabby fusion crust and gallactic scars Has anyone thought about this? I meanWhat if meteorites are the very seeds of universal birth, vessels of life-giving elements raining down upon the plethera of planets throughout the expanse of existence? Am I nuts? I know I'm not well informed butWhat say ye scientists? Has this idea been pondered? Did the ancients know something we have forgotten? are the megalithic pyrimids found throughout the world, representations of the original Benben stone, an oriented meteorite sitting on it's base and pointing to the heavens from whence it came? What say ye to this wondering man? Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Utah Salt flats
It was over 100 degrees. The sky was bare-blue, as only a Utah sky can be, and the salt flats were as great mirrors, blinking back at the face of the sun. There I was, sure as sure that I could walk out on the eye-blinding sea of salt and harvest dark rocks from the sky as one would do on the arctic ice. I set out briskly, hearing the salt crystals crunch under my feet, pausing periodically to skan the gleaming expanse with my binoculars. My heart skipped. There were all kinds of little dark patches out there. Naive me thought that all I had to do was scoop 'em uptreasures from the heaven's. Yeah, right! Dried up grasshoppers unfortunate enough to fall on the scorching surface of this saline hotplate, and little gems of feces of some sort...not exactly what I was looking for. But The rugged beauty of miles of white beneath that turquoise sky, and the bare mountains in the distance drew me further and further out into the great expanse of NACL2, and kept me chasing little dark spots for hours. OOPS! I realized that I had to walk back to my little Toyota Tacoma which was now miles behind me, and He**! it was hot! Thank whatever, (goodness or God or such.) that I'm in good shape and not yet dehydrayed! I hoofed it full-stride, dripping with sweat, all the way back to the Toyota...not realizing that I was being observed by tourists at the rest- stop where I had parked. Yup, there was a group of guys just waiting for me so they could see just what a REAL NUT looked like. Mister! What's on your mind?, came the inquisitive voice of one of the onlookers. Why, NOTHING. I answered. only an IDIOT would be walking out there on a day like this. He stood stunned and speechless as I walked back to my Toy and downed my entire gallon of springwater. Happy hunting, Rand Kluge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] highly weathered chondrites
Ever let an arrow fly and then wish you hadn't? This response is probably WAY WRONG. I've been thinking about it and have to admit that I was talking through my hat here. Sorry. Rand UmSure. (pardon the belated response.) Concerning the pic you sent of the highly coroded chondrite, I say yes. It's exactly that...or a clump of lawn ferlilizer. (your'e supposed to laugh.) Well, concerning the crystaline material, it may just be build-up of terrestrial mineral which has formed on the exterior of your specimem. I mean, in order for this meteorite to have suffered such extensive corosion, it must have been lying undisturbed for millinia...long enough for earthly mineral deposits to materialize. I doubt that you would find such material within the virgin matrix of your specimin. Rand Kluge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] highly weathered chondrites
UmSure. (pardon the belated response.) Concerning the pic you sent of the highly coroded chondrite, I say yes. It's exactly that...or a clump of lawn ferlilizer. (your'e supposed to laugh.) Well, concerning the crystaline material, it may just be build-up of terrestrial mineral which has formed on the exterior of your specimem. I mean, in order for this meteorite to have suffered such extensive corosion, it must have been lying undisturbed for millinium...long enough for earthly mineral deposites to materialize. I doubt that you would find such material within the virgin matrix of your specimin. Rand Kluge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] utah meteorites
Steve, I live in Salt Lake City, and have been hunting all over Utah for meteorites. Iv'e combed the deserts, and have even given the Bonneville Salt Flats a try. I figured that searching on the salt flats would be comparable to searching on the poles or in glacial areas. Well...I found nothing but salt ,a few dried up grasshoppers and a few lumps of feces of some sort. I remember when I was young there was a large iron meteorite on display in the lobby of the Utah state capitol. It was supposedly found on the salt flats. A couple of months ago the pilot of a small aircraft reported a near collision with a fragmenting meteorite just before impacting somewhere in the San Raphael Desert near Green River, Utah. I searched that desert. I found some very beautiful stones, some dinosaur bones, and some ancient petroglyphsbut no meteorite yet. Oh butOne night this past summer, while hiking at night in Spanish Fork Canyon, I saw a huge fireball sweep through the glittery night sky so close it seemed that I could have touched it! It only lasted a second or two, but thrilled me to gooseflesh. Yup...Theyr'e out there somewhere. And I'm gonna find one! LUCKY NEW YEAR! Rand Kluge. I'll take a stab at this one: how about utah meteorites? I have not heard from anyone on this state. Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107 The midwest meteorite collector! I.M.C.A. member #6728 Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list