Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
This has been a nice discussion withought negative bashing of peoples beliefs. Meteorites and cosmic dust is the closest we may come in our lives to setting on soil outside our solar system. Time will tell what the truth is. Just love everyone as best you can. Cheers Steve --- On Mon, 3/12/12, e...@meteoritesusa.com e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: e...@meteoritesusa.com e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 4:08 AM Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically are absolutely a vital clue to unlocking the secrets of the universe because they (the asteroids and comets that make them) not only are they the very material that formed our planet, every single planet, planetesimal, asteroid, comet, meteoroid, and spec of dust floating around our star was once part of another star before, as are we. It's a cycle, a system, a circular system of formation and destruction, somewhere in between life formed. Why create a creator to explain the unexplainable? Why not instead use science to determine origins rather than speculate on a divine supernatural beginning. Empirical evidenced fact outweighs speculative assumption every time. We are in fact part of nature, not separate from it. We need not transpose an anthropomorphic creatot to explain something we don't yet know. Regardless of whether there is a divine creator, or not, no one can prove it empirically either way. (yet) That's what science is for. If there is, science will find out, if there is not, science will find out. Either way, the truth will only be the truth when we prove it with evidence, not speculative assumption of the observable. Regards, Eric Quoting Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net: Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!) Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion hereallow me this thought: A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory; it simply expands the pie. A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand, as it disrupts the entire reality from which their foundation is built. In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three to co-existjust a thought Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Hi Richard, As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT Viewed God as male - some
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Wow! The depth and unbiased nature of this post, and the ones responding to it, is truly amazing. Greg L. Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:44:27 -0700 From: mlbl...@cox.net To: richardli...@comcast.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Count et. al., I had the same thought about conducting any such discussion offlist. I just neglected to say so in my initial email. Forgive my momentary lapse. Anyone interested in participating or simply listening in please email me directly using the topic 'Science and Faith' and I will set up a list for this purpose. In the name of privacy and a fully open discussion I intend to strip all comments to the new list of all participant's identities. Gary Maybe on some other LIst? Please. Count Deiro __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically are absolutely a vital clue to unlocking the secrets of the universe because they (the asteroids and comets that make them) not only are they the very material that formed our planet, every single planet, planetesimal, asteroid, comet, meteoroid, and spec of dust floating around our star was once part of another star before, as are we. It's a cycle, a system, a circular system of formation and destruction, somewhere in between life formed. Why create a creator to explain the unexplainable? Why not instead use science to determine origins rather than speculate on a divine supernatural beginning. Empirical evidenced fact outweighs speculative assumption every time. We are in fact part of nature, not separate from it. We need not transpose an anthropomorphic creatot to explain something we don't yet know. Regardless of whether there is a divine creator, or not, no one can prove it empirically either way. (yet) That's what science is for. If there is, science will find out, if there is not, science will find out. Either way, the truth will only be the truth when we prove it with evidence, not speculative assumption of the observable. Regards, Eric Quoting Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net: Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!) Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion hereallow me this thought: A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory; it simply expands the pie. A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand, as it disrupts the entire reality from which their foundation is built. In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three to co-existjust a thought Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Hi Richard, As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender Specific spirit. Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why People of faith would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest). Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most religions
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
Modern science is no slouch at persecution. Stand on a soap box and speak out against the no-threshold concept for toxins and radiation, statins, global warming (oops - climate change), decreasing polar bear population, or the viability of alternate energy. You'll get plenty of persecution. You won't be tortured to death, but it wont be from lack of desire - it's just because it's not so easy to do any more. Paul Swartz They damned Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest). Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient facts has always been part of history and continues to this day ... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Eric postulates... And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it. Eric, I think the attached article published in the national media today will go a long way toward answering your question. This NASA scientist is described by his fellow workers as an evangelical Christian that insisted on proselytizing at work. http://www.centredaily.com/2012/03/11/3122308/suit-nasa-specialist-axed-over.html Most persons of faith believe they have had revealed to them the entire creation story and aren't interested in anyone trying to change their beliefs. They know, and I believe fear, that to accept any of the science would mean having to strip whole pages out of what they are taught is divine revelation. Respectfully, I suggest you give it up, or take it somewhere else. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to MakeLife's Components Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically are absolutely a vital clue to unlocking the secrets of the universe because they (the asteroids and comets that make them) not only are they the very material that formed our planet, every single planet, planetesimal, asteroid, comet, meteoroid, and spec of dust floating around our star was once part of another star before, as are we. It's a cycle, a system, a circular system of formation and destruction, somewhere in between life formed. Why create a creator to explain the unexplainable? Why not instead use science to determine origins rather than speculate on a divine supernatural beginning. Empirical evidenced fact outweighs speculative assumption every time. We are in fact part of nature, not separate from it. We need not transpose an anthropomorphic creatot to explain something we don't yet know. Regardless of whether there is a divine creator, or not, no one can prove it empirically either way. (yet) That's what science is for. If there is, science will find out, if there is not, science will find out. Either way, the truth will only be the truth when we prove it with evidence, not speculative assumption of the observable. Regards, Eric Quoting Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net: Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!) Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion hereallow me this thought: A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory; it simply expands the pie. A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand
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I promise this is the last on this issue. I always believed religions were created after the first humans began to become aware what the meaning of death really meant. Maybe that's when emotions took a giant leap and evolved into affection and love.The creation of religion eased their grief by believing in a after life for the loss of a loved one or friend. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Eric postulates... And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it. Eric, I think the attached article published in the national media today will go a long way toward answering your question. This NASA scientist is described by his fellow workers as an evangelical Christian that insisted on proselytizing at work. http://www.centredaily.com/2012/03/11/3122308/suit-nasa-specialist-axed-over.html Most persons of faith believe they have had revealed to them the entire creation story and aren't interested in anyone trying to change their beliefs. They know, and I believe fear, that to accept any of the science would mean having to strip whole pages out of what they are taught is divine revelation. Respectfully, I suggest you give it up, or take it somewhere else. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically are absolutely a vital clue to unlocking the secrets of the universe because they (the asteroids and comets that make them) not only are they the very material that formed our planet, every single planet, planetesimal, asteroid, comet, meteoroid, and spec of dust floating around our star was once part of another star before, as are we. It's a cycle, a system, a circular system of formation and destruction, somewhere in between life formed. Why create a creator to explain the unexplainable? Why not instead use science to determine origins rather than speculate on a divine supernatural beginning. Empirical evidenced fact outweighs speculative assumption every time. We are in fact part of nature, not separate from it. We need not transpose an anthropomorphic creatot to explain something we don't yet know. Regardless of whether there is a divine creator, or not, no one can prove it empirically either way. (yet) That's what science is for. If there is, science will find out, if there is not, science will find out. Either way, the truth will only be the truth when we prove it with evidence, not speculative assumption of the observable. Regards, Eric Quoting Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net: Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!) Contrary to the often mis-conception
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Breaking away from invisible men in the sky and back to science.. Amino acids alone make up 60 ppm of Murchison, by weight. PAHs make up 0.3% of its weight. Earth formed with huge quantities of organic molecules. Today’s biosphere has ~ 3 x 1041 C atoms. If the early Earth had this many C atoms all in building block molecules with ~ 10 C atoms each, that’s ~ 3 x 1040 total molecules. Say there are ~ 105 molecules with up to 10 C atoms (uracil, dihydroxyacetone, naphthalene, etc.). That means there are ~ 3 x 1035 copies of each molecule on Earth. The volume of Earth's oceans and land is 1025 cm3. Each thimbleful (cubic centimeter) of ocean had 3 x 1010 cm3 copies of each of these different organic compounds. Each one can bang into each other one in a matter of minutes, potentially making ~ 1010 new combinations. Each day, lightning, solar radiation, volcanic heat, heat from impacts, breaks apart molecules, making more new combinations possible. Mixing in the oceans increased the combinations possible. This went on, day after day after day, for 100 billion days (300 Myr) [Erik] - Original Message - From: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components I promise this is the last on this issue. I always believed religions were created after the first humans began to become aware what the meaning of death really meant. Maybe that's when emotions took a giant leap and evolved into affection and love.The creation of religion eased their grief by believing in a after life for the loss of a loved one or friend. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Eric postulates... And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it. Eric, I think the attached article published in the national media today will go a long way toward answering your question. This NASA scientist is described by his fellow workers as an evangelical Christian that insisted on proselytizing at work. http://www.centredaily.com/2012/03/11/3122308/suit-nasa-specialist-axed-over.html Most persons of faith believe they have had revealed to them the entire creation story and aren't interested in anyone trying to change their beliefs. They know, and I believe fear, that to accept any of the science would mean having to strip whole pages out of what they are taught is divine revelation. Respectfully, I suggest you give it up, or take it somewhere else. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically
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A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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As a Christian and a lover of meteorites and all things scientific I think this is a perfect topic for a full blown treatise. If you will all bear with me, offering your questions and opinions along the way, I would love to tackle this in a manner that will hopefully meld as many issues/questions as possible into a singular 'answer' that may be enlightening and logical. Interested? I sure am! Great topic Michael. Gary On Sun, March 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Dick Lipke wrote: Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Richard, As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender Specific spirit. Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why People of faith would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest). Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most religions holding the view, the way we see things IS the way things are while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone when sees things differently - hence 9/11. Weird, weird, weird weirder. Michael On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m ak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac t best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!) Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion hereallow me this thought: A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory; it simply expands the pie. A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand, as it disrupts the entire reality from which their foundation is built. In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three to co-existjust a thought Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Hi Richard, As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender Specific spirit. Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why People of faith would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest). Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most religions holding the view, the way we see things IS the way things are while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone when sees things differently - hence 9/11. Weird, weird, weird weirder. Michael On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m ak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac t best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
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I apologize for for unconsciously grouping all religions into the same kind of thinking and beliefs. There are probably as many different religions as there are stars. I stopped following any religious beliefs when I was about 8 or 9 years old when all my questions regarding all the tragedies happening around me or around the world always managed to end up with the answer well God works in mysterious ways. Even at that age I could sense a fear in their voices to avoid giving me a answer that could offend their God. This got way off the path of meteorites. This subject is over and done with. Thanks everyone one for their opinions. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Hi Richard, As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender Specific spirit. Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why People of faith would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house arrest). Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most religions holding the view, the way we see things IS the way things are while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone when sees things differently - hence 9/11. Weird, weird, weird weirder. Michael On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m ak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac t best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
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Dear List, I, for one, have been down this road more than a few times in the past three quarters of a century. It started when someone poured water on my head, without asking, shortly after birth. Gary's request to bear with him, so that he can field issues, questions and opinions that will hopefully meld into a singular answer that may be elightening and logical, I can only equate with answering a Sunday morning knock on the door to find nicely dressed atrangers with thick books under their arms who would just love to enlighten you. Maybe on some other LIst? Please. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Gary K. Foote g...@webbers.com Sent: Mar 11, 2012 4:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components As a Christian and a lover of meteorites and all things scientific I think this is a perfect topic for a full blown treatise. If you will all bear with me, offering your questions and opinions along the way, I would love to tackle this in a manner that will hopefully meld as many issues/questions as possible into a singular 'answer' that may be enlightening and logical. Interested? I sure am! Great topic Michael. Gary On Sun, March 11, 2012 5:23 pm, Dick Lipke wrote: Micheal, That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never understand the thinking of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world wide have always been considered a male. Which brings up the problem, Which came first, the chicken or the egg. I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a female. That would answer the question, she God was a female carrying the first egg that resulted in the birth of the universe. Richard Lipke - Original Message - A major element in the problem with most of those calling Themselves Christians these days is that they See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it Difficult to see the glory or creation in anything other Than comic book images. They actually envision God as a big (male) human who Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud. They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is For evolution arising from a primeval soup. Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse Them with facts. Odd Michael On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-mak e-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
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Apsosositivutely. Michael On 3/11/12 6:21 PM, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three to co-existjust a thought Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-make-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity when I brought up the idea of meteorites being the Johny Appleseed of of life on Earth to members of my astronomy club. Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage. They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe. Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then they still burnt people at the stake for being possessed by satin. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-make-life-s-components.html The paper is: Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P. Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic meteorites. Meteoritics Planetary Science. Article first published online: 8 March 2012 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstract best wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
