subject:"Re\: \[meteorite\-list\] Re\: Pardon me, dude"

Bill, you hit the nail on the head. As in any field,
there are whacko's around. I hope they do not
discourage you, nor anyone else, no one should keep a
person from persuing their interest. 
Mike Farmer
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For the record. The first experience I ever had with
> a meteorite dealer was 
> only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad
> sites asking for PF 
> meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second
> person I heard from was 
> Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for $40g.
> I told him I was buying 
> for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on the
> met-line and started 
> complaining about people like me making the market
> go to ruin or whatever 
> that gibberish means. There's more to the story but
> the fact is that he was 
> rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some
> crazy kid. If I didn't have 
> so many years of business exp. I might have been
> intimidated or completely 
> turned away from this wonderful new interest. I
> wonder how many other newbies 
> he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I
> know the difference between 
> an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better word, a
> jerk that's trying to con 
> me. I never intended to mention it but now it seems
> to have meaning. This guy 
> is downright bizzare.
> 
> Bill Kieskowski
> 
> 
> > Oh, by the way, I forgot, do you remember a few
> years
> > back, when the Italian theives shot and killed a 2
> > year old American child, the family was on
> holiday,
> > they tried to rob them and killed the baby, what
> did
> > the Americans do? The family gave the babies
> organs to
> > other sick Italian children, so that they might
> live. 
> > Did America scream for them to be hunted down, no.
> 
> > It is lunacy to judge a nation or it's people by
> what
> > any individual does. you have now shown that you
> are a
> > true piece of work. 
> > DO NOT EVER try to buy anything from me again, I
> have
> > blocked you from ebay, and will promptly tell you
> > where to shove your request. 
> > I hope other Italians are not like you.  
> > 
> > Note: forwarded message attached.


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Re: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

Thanks for the compliment, Matteo.

Bill Kieskowski

> another little Farmer
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You incredible idiot!! The only piece I've sold so
> > far was a 40g piece on 
> > ebay with no reserve.
> > 
> > Bill Kieskowski
> > 
> > > hahhahaha nice history, now for how much you find
> > PF
> > > from you? Ask to others for how much give you, if
> > ask
> > > under $30/gr. or $40/gr.
> > > 
> > > Matteo
> > > 
> > > PRIVATE EMAIL
> > > 
> > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > For the record. The first experience I ever had
> > with
> > > > a meteorite dealer was 
> > > > only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad
> > > > sites asking for PF 
> > > > meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second
> > > > person I heard from was 
> > > > Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for
> > $40g.
> > > > I told him I was buying 
> > > > for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on
> > the
> > > > met-line and started 
> > > > complaining about people like me making the
> > market
> > > > go to ruin or whatever 
> > > > that gibberish means. There's more to the story
> > but
> > > > the fact is that he was 
> > > > rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some
> > > > crazy kid. If I didn't have 
> > > > so many years of business exp. I might have been
> > > > intimidated or completely 
> > > > turned away from this wonderful new interest. I
> > > > wonder how many other newbies 
> > > > he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I
> > > > know the difference between 
> > > > an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better
> > word, a
> > > > jerk that's trying to con 
> > > > me. I never intended to mention it but now it
> > seems
> > > > to have meaning. This guy 
> > > > is downright bizzare.
> > > > 
> > > > Bill Kieskowski
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =
> > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
> > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA,
> > ITALY
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com
> > Collection Site: 
> > > http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
> > > International Meteorite Collectors Association
> > #2140
> > > MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
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Re: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

You incredible idiot!! The only piece I've sold so far was a 40g piece on 
ebay with no reserve.

Bill Kieskowski

> hahhahaha nice history, now for how much you find PF
> from you? Ask to others for how much give you, if ask
> under $30/gr. or $40/gr.
> 
> Matteo
> 
> PRIVATE EMAIL
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > For the record. The first experience I ever had with
> > a meteorite dealer was 
> > only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad
> > sites asking for PF 
> > meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second
> > person I heard from was 
> > Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for $40g.
> > I told him I was buying 
> > for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on the
> > met-line and started 
> > complaining about people like me making the market
> > go to ruin or whatever 
> > that gibberish means. There's more to the story but
> > the fact is that he was 
> > rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some
> > crazy kid. If I didn't have 
> > so many years of business exp. I might have been
> > intimidated or completely 
> > turned away from this wonderful new interest. I
> > wonder how many other newbies 
> > he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I
> > know the difference between 
> > an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better word, a
> > jerk that's trying to con 
> > me. I never intended to mention it but now it seems
> > to have meaning. This guy 
> > is downright bizzare.
> > 
> > Bill Kieskowski
> 
> 
> =
> M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
> Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: 
> http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
> International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
> MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/
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RE: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

2003-10-12 Thread Charles R. Viau

Matteo,
The time and money you have invested in learning about
meteorites would have been better spent in therapy.

Buzz off.

Run that through your translator.

CharlyV

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Subject: Re: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon
me, dude

hahhahaha nice history, now for how much you find PF
from you? Ask to others for how much give you, if ask
under $30/gr. or $40/gr.

Matteo

PRIVATE EMAIL

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For the record. The first experience I ever had with
> a meteorite dealer was 
> only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad
> sites asking for PF 
> meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second
> person I heard from was 
> Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for $40g.
> I told him I was buying 
> for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on the
> met-line and started 
> complaining about people like me making the market
> go to ruin or whatever 
> that gibberish means. There's more to the story but
> the fact is that he was 
> rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some
> crazy kid. If I didn't have 
> so many years of business exp. I might have been
> intimidated or completely 
> turned away from this wonderful new interest. I
> wonder how many other newbies 
> he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I
> know the difference between 
> an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better word, a
> jerk that's trying to con 
> me. I never intended to mention it but now it seems
> to have meaning. This guy 
> is downright bizzare.
> 
> Bill Kieskowski


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Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

Stu is so right. Don't get distracted by anything. If you have a beef, take 
it up when you get home!

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2003-10-12 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites

hahhahaha nice history, now for how much you find PF
from you? Ask to others for how much give you, if ask
under $30/gr. or $40/gr.

Matteo

PRIVATE EMAIL

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For the record. The first experience I ever had with
> a meteorite dealer was 
> only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad
> sites asking for PF 
> meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second
> person I heard from was 
> Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for $40g.
> I told him I was buying 
> for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on the
> met-line and started 
> complaining about people like me making the market
> go to ruin or whatever 
> that gibberish means. There's more to the story but
> the fact is that he was 
> rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some
> crazy kid. If I didn't have 
> so many years of business exp. I might have been
> intimidated or completely 
> turned away from this wonderful new interest. I
> wonder how many other newbies 
> he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I
> know the difference between 
> an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better word, a
> jerk that's trying to con 
> me. I never intended to mention it but now it seems
> to have meaning. This guy 
> is downright bizzare.
> 
> Bill Kieskowski


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Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: 
http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

2003-10-12 Thread Peter Marmet



 
Michael Farmer wrote:
Oh, by the way, I forgot, do you remember a few
years
back, when the Italian theives shot and killed a 2
year old American child, the family was on holiday,
they tried to rob them and killed the baby, what did
the Americans do? The family gave the babies organs to
other sick Italian children, so that they might live.
Did America scream for them to be hunted down, no.
It is lunacy to judge a nation or it's people by what
any individual does. you have now shown that you are a
true piece of work.
DO NOT EVER try to buy anything from me again, I have
blocked you from ebay, and will promptly tell you
where to shove your request.
I hope other Italians are not like you.

Hi list,
I think all this is NOT about Italians or Americans. I know Italy very
well and I know a lot of
Italians. In fact this part of Bern, Switzerland where I live is called
Little Italy. Italy is a wonderful
country with very nice people and - the best food in the world. I'm
sure the same is true for the US - maybe
with one exception concernig food;-). But there is one guy - it doesn't
matter where he is from - who
should no longer be on this list - Excuse me, I'm getting emotional
for a moment: MATTEO, JUST SHUT U!
Leave this list and don't come back unless you have to say something
that REALLY has to do with METEORITES !
Peter M., Bern

Re: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

For the record. The first experience I ever had with a meteorite dealer was 
only months ago. I placed a few adds on free ad sites asking for PF 
meteorites. I figured what the heck. The second person I heard from was 
Matteo. He badgered me to buy pf from him for $40g. I told him I was buying 
for a lot less here in Illinois. He then went on the met-line and started 
complaining about people like me making the market go to ruin or whatever 
that gibberish means. There's more to the story but the fact is that he was 
rude and very aggressive. I thought he was some crazy kid. If I didn't have 
so many years of business exp. I might have been intimidated or completely 
turned away from this wonderful new interest. I wonder how many other newbies 
he tries to stalk on the internet. Believe me, I know the difference between 
an honest inquiry and, for lack of a better word, a jerk that's trying to con 
me. I never intended to mention it but now it seems to have meaning. This guy 
is downright bizzare.

Bill Kieskowski


> Oh, by the way, I forgot, do you remember a few years
> back, when the Italian theives shot and killed a 2
> year old American child, the family was on holiday,
> they tried to rob them and killed the baby, what did
> the Americans do? The family gave the babies organs to
> other sick Italian children, so that they might live. 
> Did America scream for them to be hunted down, no. 
> It is lunacy to judge a nation or it's people by what
> any individual does. you have now shown that you are a
> true piece of work. 
> DO NOT EVER try to buy anything from me again, I have
> blocked you from ebay, and will promptly tell you
> where to shove your request. 
> I hope other Italians are not like you.  
> 
> Note: forwarded message attached.

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RE: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

2003-10-12 Thread Charles R. Viau









Mike, Stu
and list,

 

    What
Stu says about Italy is really true. I spent 2 weeks there last year, and I cannot wait
to see more of it. The people are some of the friendliest on the planet.  You need to free yourself from that Matteo nonsense and just get back to the good old USA safely. 

 

God speed,

 

CharlyV 

 

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7:02 AM
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

 

In a message dated 12/10/2003
11:43:34 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




I hope other Italians are not like
you.  



Mike,

As my best friend - who now lives in Italy - married an Italian girl, and I was
lucky enough to be invited over there to be his Best Man and had an amazing
time (I think, there was so much wine a lot of the wedding reception is a bit
of a blur to be honest...!), I can assure you that Italians are generous,
family-loving, passionate and considerate peple on the whole. True, they drive
like absolute lunatics, and have tempers that can ignite like a Saturn 5
engine, and can't walk past a shop window without checking themselves out (but
you can't blame them for that when 99% of them look like they've just come off
a catwalk anyway ;-) I think they must ship all the ugly kids off to some
island somewhere, cos seriously, everyone is a supermodel; walking down an Italian
street is so distracting it's unbelievable..! ) but you'll be hard pressed to
meet a more welcoming people, believe me. I know you're being severely provoked
here, by some truly disgraceful and despicable insults, but don't tar them all
with the same brush, ok? That's like saying all we Brits are umbrella-carrying,
pinstripe-suit wearing, bowler-hatted hee-haws... or that all Americans are
Hawaiian shirt-wearing, burger-chomping, gun-toting... well, you get the idea.
Stereotypes... dangerous things, you know? 

The world's an angry enough place right now as it is without hurling this kind
of language about. It's hard not to rise to it, I know, but in situations like
this there's much more dignity in taking a deep breath and not stooping to the
other guy's level. I think - no, I know - you're a better man than that. 

Take care out there, and forget this nonsense and just try to keep your mind on
getting out - and back here to your friends on the List - in one piece, ok? :-)

Stu

Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

2003-10-12 Thread Martin Altmann

Hi Mike,

this is just the personal and sick opinion of Matteo.
Especially the people, who collect meteorites or ar in this business have a
larger horizon and a differnet perspective.
>From a point of view of a meteorite approaching the little blue ball in
space, there is no place for simple minded nationalisms.
So please write "he" instead of "they".

Martin A.

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude


> This is what Matteo writes, I hope every American sees
> this, you have a guy who spits in our faces, and hates
> us, do any of you want to do business with that kind
> of person? My grandfather fought and was shot in
> France, fighting to free them from Nazi Germany. What
> do they say now, they hate us.
> Yes, some pilots caused a terrible accident, killing
> some people. Matteo, do you remember the Italian air
> force flying team that screwed the pooch in Germany,
> at the airshow, killing over 100 people? Oh, that was
> just an accident too. You are a piece of human filth.
>
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
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2003-10-12 Thread STUARTATK

In a message dated 12/10/2003 11:43:34 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I hope other Italians are not like you.

Mike,

As my best friend - who now lives in Italy - married an Italian girl, and I was lucky enough to be invited over there to be his Best Man and had an amazing time (I think, there was so much wine a lot of the wedding reception is a bit of a blur to be honest...!), I can assure you that Italians are generous, family-loving, passionate and considerate peple on the whole. True, they drive like absolute lunatics, and have tempers that can ignite like a Saturn 5 engine, and can't walk past a shop window without checking themselves out (but you can't blame them for that when 99% of them look like they've just come off a catwalk anyway ;-) I think they must ship all the ugly kids off to some island somewhere, cos seriously, everyone is a supermodel; walking down an Italian street is so distracting it's unbelievable..! ) but you'll be hard pressed to meet a more welcoming people, believe me. I know you're being severely provoked here, by some truly disgraceful and despicable insults, but don't tar them all with the same brush, ok? That's like saying all we Brits are umbrella-carrying, pinstripe-suit wearing, bowler-hatted hee-haws... or that all Americans are Hawaiian shirt-wearing, burger-chomping, gun-toting... well, you get the idea. Stereotypes... dangerous things, you know?

The world's an angry enough place right now as it is without hurling this kind of language about. It's hard not to rise to it, I know, but in situations like this there's much more dignity in taking a deep breath and not stooping to the other guy's level. I think - no, I know - you're a better man than that.

Take care out there, and forget this nonsense and just try to keep your mind on getting out - and back here to your friends on the List - in one piece, ok? :-)

Stu

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Oh, by the way, I forgot, do you remember a few years
back, when the Italian theives shot and killed a 2
year old American child, the family was on holiday,
they tried to rob them and killed the baby, what did
the Americans do? The family gave the babies organs to
other sick Italian children, so that they might live. 
Did America scream for them to be hunted down, no. 
It is lunacy to judge a nation or it's people by what
any individual does. you have now shown that you are a
true piece of work. 
DO NOT EVER try to buy anything from me again, I have
blocked you from ebay, and will promptly tell you
where to shove your request. 
I hope other Italians are not like you.  

Note: forwarded message attached.
--- Begin Message ---
ohhh hour we also put in means the Italian Police, we
see well if I amuse myself to send this email to who
of it must to care the bases Americans in Italy
you read the list:

Aviano - Friuli Venezia Giulia
Vicenza - Veneto
Verona - Veneto - Nato Comand
Pisa - Tuscany
Napoli  - Campania
La Maddalena - Sardinia
Sigonella - Sicily

All this informations is available via internet.
In order not to remember the infame massacre of the
Cermis where two pilots of US Airforce airplane, in
order make themselves to see good, have shear the
cable of one air cableway killing 20 persons. These if
they are escaped it from the Italian justice and have
been judge in USA, where they have been alone degrades
but any 1 year of jail they have not been made. Not
only, one has been also promoted to other degree.
Shame.
I will report to the person that go in Libya to
recover the meteorites that practically you have given
to it the name mafia, you will find it in Monaco if
you want to give explanations to it. A lot
probably you cannot go in Libia why the Americans very
are not seen well from the Libyans.
Now I am broken to answer to your insignificant
emails, plus you write to them and more you become
ridicule. Goodbye marines

--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And you cry about "Corrupt Italina Policemen"? 
> Matteo, thanks for answering me. all now know how
> you
> are. Oh, only americans get drunk. Try to remember
> why
> there are American bases in Italy, if you do not
> know
> your own history, it is because we had to save your
> asses from yourselves two times now. 
> And you talk about the Italian meteorite hunters
> like
> they are Mafia, OK, so you JUST PROVED what I said,
> they are crimanal theives who steal from Libya, and
> by
> saying that I have put myself at risk. ALL this
> after
> you just said that Bob Haag and I are corrupt
> theives.
> Dude, you need to get a clue you are so stupid.  So,
> it is good that the Italians can go to Libya and an
> steal meteorites for you to sell, and it is bad that
> Bob Haag and I steal meteorites to sell from
> different
> countries? This is your argument? I am so very
> confused right now. 
> Anyway, I dont want to be thrown off the list for
> this
> useless argument with you, since you are so dense,
> no
> amount of logic can break through that incredible
> Italian intellect. I will not try. Let others deal
> with you. I will not reply to your idiotic emails
> anymore. Your comments speak for your stupidity. 
> 
> Sorry for the poor typing, it is not the esiest
> keboard I have ever used, so many spelling errors in
> these emails from India. 
> 
> Anyone else see the lunacy in Matteo's logic, the
> contradictions in his emails, or am I the one who is
> an idiot?  Please let me know. Matteo need not
> respond. 
> 
> 
> Mike Farmer
> --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hahahahahahaha...well well well we have
> also
> > the threats hour, well if we go for this road I
> can
> > report to you that I have the port of gun from 10
> > years and that I always have with me my beloved
> gun,
> > in order not to speak about the rest of the armory
> > that I have in house. Therefore if a personage
> > begins
> > to break off the face to me, it will be mine
> hurries
> > to use my methods as others have made here in
> Italy
> > with americans military drunk who go to annoy
> people
> > in the roads before ring-enter to their bases or
> > their
> > ships berthed here to Venice. Perhaps I will
> > be probably to Monaco, with to other Italians and
> > there will be also what it has recovered
> meteorites
> > in
> > Dar al Gani, even if you could say these things to
> > it
> > in Ensisheim, but probably you had fear.
> > Ah, how many years you have? Last thing, I am a
> > collaborating of the Italian Police from beyond 3
> > years, your threats you can put where I know and
> > stop
> > to broken me.
> > 
> > P.s. NWA 482 wher is the paper of exportation?
> > 
> > 
> > --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call
> me
> > a
> > > boy again, I will break your face! I spent over
> 4
> > > years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I
> > > think
> > > that I am no lo

Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

Oh, by the way, I forgot, do you remember a few years
back, when the Italian theives shot and killed a 2
year old American child, the family was on holiday,
they tried to rob them and killed the baby, what did
the Americans do? The family gave the babies organs to
other sick Italian children, so that they might live. 
Did America scream for them to be hunted down, no. 
It is lunacy to judge a nation or it's people by what
any individual does. you have now shown that you are a
true piece of work. 
DO NOT EVER try to buy anything from me again, I have
blocked you from ebay, and will promptly tell you
where to shove your request. 
I hope other Italians are not like you.  

Note: forwarded message attached.
--- Begin Message ---
ohhh hour we also put in means the Italian Police, we
see well if I amuse myself to send this email to who
of it must to care the bases Americans in Italy
you read the list:

Aviano - Friuli Venezia Giulia
Vicenza - Veneto
Verona - Veneto - Nato Comand
Pisa - Tuscany
Napoli  - Campania
La Maddalena - Sardinia
Sigonella - Sicily

All this informations is available via internet.
In order not to remember the infame massacre of the
Cermis where two pilots of US Airforce airplane, in
order make themselves to see good, have shear the
cable of one air cableway killing 20 persons. These if
they are escaped it from the Italian justice and have
been judge in USA, where they have been alone degrades
but any 1 year of jail they have not been made. Not
only, one has been also promoted to other degree.
Shame.
I will report to the person that go in Libya to
recover the meteorites that practically you have given
to it the name mafia, you will find it in Monaco if
you want to give explanations to it. A lot
probably you cannot go in Libia why the Americans very
are not seen well from the Libyans.
Now I am broken to answer to your insignificant
emails, plus you write to them and more you become
ridicule. Goodbye marines

--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And you cry about "Corrupt Italina Policemen"? 
> Matteo, thanks for answering me. all now know how
> you
> are. Oh, only americans get drunk. Try to remember
> why
> there are American bases in Italy, if you do not
> know
> your own history, it is because we had to save your
> asses from yourselves two times now. 
> And you talk about the Italian meteorite hunters
> like
> they are Mafia, OK, so you JUST PROVED what I said,
> they are crimanal theives who steal from Libya, and
> by
> saying that I have put myself at risk. ALL this
> after
> you just said that Bob Haag and I are corrupt
> theives.
> Dude, you need to get a clue you are so stupid.  So,
> it is good that the Italians can go to Libya and an
> steal meteorites for you to sell, and it is bad that
> Bob Haag and I steal meteorites to sell from
> different
> countries? This is your argument? I am so very
> confused right now. 
> Anyway, I dont want to be thrown off the list for
> this
> useless argument with you, since you are so dense,
> no
> amount of logic can break through that incredible
> Italian intellect. I will not try. Let others deal
> with you. I will not reply to your idiotic emails
> anymore. Your comments speak for your stupidity. 
> 
> Sorry for the poor typing, it is not the esiest
> keboard I have ever used, so many spelling errors in
> these emails from India. 
> 
> Anyone else see the lunacy in Matteo's logic, the
> contradictions in his emails, or am I the one who is
> an idiot?  Please let me know. Matteo need not
> respond. 
> 
> 
> Mike Farmer
> --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hahahahahahaha...well well well we have
> also
> > the threats hour, well if we go for this road I
> can
> > report to you that I have the port of gun from 10
> > years and that I always have with me my beloved
> gun,
> > in order not to speak about the rest of the armory
> > that I have in house. Therefore if a personage
> > begins
> > to break off the face to me, it will be mine
> hurries
> > to use my methods as others have made here in
> Italy
> > with americans military drunk who go to annoy
> people
> > in the roads before ring-enter to their bases or
> > their
> > ships berthed here to Venice. Perhaps I will
> > be probably to Monaco, with to other Italians and
> > there will be also what it has recovered
> meteorites
> > in
> > Dar al Gani, even if you could say these things to
> > it
> > in Ensisheim, but probably you had fear.
> > Ah, how many years you have? Last thing, I am a
> > collaborating of the Italian Police from beyond 3
> > years, your threats you can put where I know and
> > stop
> > to broken me.
> > 
> > P.s. NWA 482 wher is the paper of exportation?
> > 
> > 
> > --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call
> me
> > a
> > > boy again, I will break your face! I spent over
> 4
> > > years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I
> > > think
> > > that I am no lo

Fwd: [MeteoriteCollectors] Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

This is what Matteo writes, I hope every American sees
this, you have a guy who spits in our faces, and hates
us, do any of you want to do business with that kind
of person? My grandfather fought and was shot in
France, fighting to free them from Nazi Germany. What
do they say now, they hate us. 
Yes, some pilots caused a terrible accident, killing
some people. Matteo, do you remember the Italian air
force flying team that screwed the pooch in Germany,
at the airshow, killing over 100 people? Oh, that was
just an accident too. You are a piece of human filth. 


Note: forwarded message attached.

--- Begin Message ---
ohhh hour we also put in means the Italian Police, we
see well if I amuse myself to send this email to who
of it must to care the bases Americans in Italy
you read the list:

Aviano - Friuli Venezia Giulia
Vicenza - Veneto
Verona - Veneto - Nato Comand
Pisa - Tuscany
Napoli  - Campania
La Maddalena - Sardinia
Sigonella - Sicily

All this informations is available via internet.
In order not to remember the infame massacre of the
Cermis where two pilots of US Airforce airplane, in
order make themselves to see good, have shear the
cable of one air cableway killing 20 persons. These if
they are escaped it from the Italian justice and have
been judge in USA, where they have been alone degrades
but any 1 year of jail they have not been made. Not
only, one has been also promoted to other degree.
Shame.
I will report to the person that go in Libya to
recover the meteorites that practically you have given
to it the name mafia, you will find it in Monaco if
you want to give explanations to it. A lot
probably you cannot go in Libia why the Americans very
are not seen well from the Libyans.
Now I am broken to answer to your insignificant
emails, plus you write to them and more you become
ridicule. Goodbye marines



--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And you cry about "Corrupt Italina Policemen"? 
> Matteo, thanks for answering me. all now know how
> you
> are. Oh, only americans get drunk. Try to remember
> why
> there are American bases in Italy, if you do not
> know
> your own history, it is because we had to save your
> asses from yourselves two times now. 
> And you talk about the Italian meteorite hunters
> like
> they are Mafia, OK, so you JUST PROVED what I said,
> they are crimanal theives who steal from Libya, and
> by
> saying that I have put myself at risk. ALL this
> after
> you just said that Bob Haag and I are corrupt
> theives.
> Dude, you need to get a clue you are so stupid.  So,
> it is good that the Italians can go to Libya and an
> steal meteorites for you to sell, and it is bad that
> Bob Haag and I steal meteorites to sell from
> different
> countries? This is your argument? I am so very
> confused right now. 
> Anyway, I dont want to be thrown off the list for
> this
> useless argument with you, since you are so dense,
> no
> amount of logic can break through that incredible
> Italian intellect. I will not try. Let others deal
> with you. I will not reply to your idiotic emails
> anymore. Your comments speak for your stupidity. 
> 
> Sorry for the poor typing, it is not the esiest
> keboard I have ever used, so many spelling errors in
> these emails from India. 
> 
> Anyone else see the lunacy in Matteo's logic, the
> contradictions in his emails, or am I the one who is
> an idiot?  Please let me know. Matteo need not
> respond. 
> 
> 
> Mike Farmer
> --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hahahahahahaha...well well well we have
> also
> > the threats hour, well if we go for this road I
> can
> > report to you that I have the port of gun from 10
> > years and that I always have with me my beloved
> gun,
> > in order not to speak about the rest of the armory
> > that I have in house. Therefore if a personage
> > begins
> > to break off the face to me, it will be mine
> hurries
> > to use my methods as others have made here in
> Italy
> > with americans military drunk who go to annoy
> people
> > in the roads before ring-enter to their bases or
> > their
> > ships berthed here to Venice. Perhaps I will
> > be probably to Monaco, with to other Italians and
> > there will be also what it has recovered
> meteorites
> > in
> > Dar al Gani, even if you could say these things to
> > it
> > in Ensisheim, but probably you had fear.
> > Ah, how many years you have? Last thing, I am a
> > collaborating of the Italian Police from beyond 3
> > years, your threats you can put where I know and
> > stop
> > to broken me.
> > 
> > P.s. NWA 482 wher is the paper of exportation?
> > 
> > 
> > --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call
> me
> > a
> > > boy again, I will break your face! I spent over
> 4
> > > years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I
> > > think
> > > that I am no longer a boy. Call me what you
> like,
> > > all
> > > of your DAR AL GANI meteorites are STOLEN, do
> you
> > >

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

And you cry about "Corrupt Italina Policemen"? 
Matteo, thanks for answering me. all now know how you
are. Oh, only americans get drunk. Try to remember why
there are American bases in Italy, if you do not know
your own history, it is because we had to save your
asses from yourselves two times now. 
And you talk about the Italian meteorite hunters like
they are Mafia, OK, so you JUST PROVED what I said,
they are crimanal theives who steal from Libya, and by
saying that I have put myself at risk. ALL this after
you just said that Bob Haag and I are corrupt theives.
Dude, you need to get a clue you are so stupid.  So,
it is good that the Italians can go to Libya and an
steal meteorites for you to sell, and it is bad that
Bob Haag and I steal meteorites to sell from different
countries? This is your argument? I am so very
confused right now. 
Anyway, I dont want to be thrown off the list for this
useless argument with you, since you are so dense, no
amount of logic can break through that incredible
Italian intellect. I will not try. Let others deal
with you. I will not reply to your idiotic emails
anymore. Your comments speak for your stupidity. 

Sorry for the poor typing, it is not the esiest
keboard I have ever used, so many spelling errors in
these emails from India. 

Anyone else see the lunacy in Matteo's logic, the
contradictions in his emails, or am I the one who is
an idiot?  Please let me know. Matteo need not
respond. 


Mike Farmer
--- M come Meteorite Meteorites
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hahahahahahaha...well well well we have also
> the threats hour, well if we go for this road I can
> report to you that I have the port of gun from 10
> years and that I always have with me my beloved gun,
> in order not to speak about the rest of the armory
> that I have in house. Therefore if a personage
> begins
> to break off the face to me, it will be mine hurries
> to use my methods as others have made here in Italy
> with americans military drunk who go to annoy people
> in the roads before ring-enter to their bases or
> their
> ships berthed here to Venice. Perhaps I will
> be probably to Monaco, with to other Italians and
> there will be also what it has recovered meteorites
> in
> Dar al Gani, even if you could say these things to
> it
> in Ensisheim, but probably you had fear.
> Ah, how many years you have? Last thing, I am a
> collaborating of the Italian Police from beyond 3
> years, your threats you can put where I know and
> stop
> to broken me.
> 
> P.s. NWA 482 wher is the paper of exportation?
> 
> 
> --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call me
> a
> > boy again, I will break your face! I spent over 4
> > years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I
> > think
> > that I am no longer a boy. Call me what you like,
> > all
> > of your DAR AL GANI meteorites are STOLEN, do you
> > think that Libya allows them to be legally taken,
> > millions of dollar of stones leaving the country
> > without the government making a penny! You are a
> > hipocrite! do not say another word about me Matteo
> > until you look into a mirror and proclaim yourself
> a
> > sinless god. 
> > 
> > End of story, Bob saved Zagami. corruption is the
> > norm
> > in all third world countries, try to fight it and
> > you
> > will get killed. Of course you wouldnt know that,
> > you
> > are too cowardly to leave Italy, see the world,
> take
> > risks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Mike Farmer
> > --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From Space Rocks:
> > > 
> > > Haag finaly had his Mars rock - if he could just
> > > hang
> > > on to it. He left Kaduna the same day and headed
> > > southwest to the city of Lagos on the Atlantic
> > > coast.
> > > There he was stopped cold by an official who was
> > > checking baggage. The meteorites set off the
> metal
> > > detectors. " What is this rock?" the official
> > > asked.Haag told her it was a meteorite given to
> > him
> > > by
> > > the museum director of Kaduna. "That can't leave
> > the
> > > country " she said coldly and set it aside. Haag
> > > grabbed it back, determinated to " walk across
> > > Africa
> > > barefoot or swim the Atlantic Ocean " to get it
> to
> > > Tucson. The main problem was that he had no
> papers
> > > from the museum releasing the meteorite. The
> line
> > > behind him was filled with impatient travelers,
> > and
> > > the plane was scheduled to leave momentarily.
> The
> > > official was under pressure. " Well, I've got
> > these
> > > papers " Haag said, and thrust all his Nigerian
> > > money
> > > on the table. " I have something back here " he
> > > continued and turned around to retrieve a bag.
> In
> > > that
> > > instant the " papers " vanished. With a smile
> and
> > a
> > > thank-you, the official motioned Haag to the
> > waiting
> > > plane. This meteorite had a price on the world
> > > market
> > > of $1 milion. ((c) R.Norton )
> > > 
> > > well, this is corr

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

2003-10-11 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites

hahahahahahaha...well well well we have also
the threats hour, well if we go for this road I can
report to you that I have the port of gun from 10
years and that I always have with me my beloved gun,
in order not to speak about the rest of the armory
that I have in house. Therefore if a personage begins
to break off the face to me, it will be mine hurries
to use my methods as others have made here in Italy
with americans military drunk who go to annoy people
in the roads before ring-enter to their bases or their
ships berthed here to Venice. Perhaps I will
be probably to Monaco, with to other Italians and
there will be also what it has recovered meteorites in
Dar al Gani, even if you could say these things to it
in Ensisheim, but probably you had fear.
Ah, how many years you have? Last thing, I am a
collaborating of the Italian Police from beyond 3
years, your threats you can put where I know and stop
to broken me.

P.s. NWA 482 wher is the paper of exportation?


--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call me a
> boy again, I will break your face! I spent over 4
> years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I
> think
> that I am no longer a boy. Call me what you like,
> all
> of your DAR AL GANI meteorites are STOLEN, do you
> think that Libya allows them to be legally taken,
> millions of dollar of stones leaving the country
> without the government making a penny! You are a
> hipocrite! do not say another word about me Matteo
> until you look into a mirror and proclaim yourself a
> sinless god. 
> 
> End of story, Bob saved Zagami. corruption is the
> norm
> in all third world countries, try to fight it and
> you
> will get killed. Of course you wouldnt know that,
> you
> are too cowardly to leave Italy, see the world, take
> risks. 
> 
> 
> Mike Farmer
> --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From Space Rocks:
> > 
> > Haag finaly had his Mars rock - if he could just
> > hang
> > on to it. He left Kaduna the same day and headed
> > southwest to the city of Lagos on the Atlantic
> > coast.
> > There he was stopped cold by an official who was
> > checking baggage. The meteorites set off the metal
> > detectors. " What is this rock?" the official
> > asked.Haag told her it was a meteorite given to
> him
> > by
> > the museum director of Kaduna. "That can't leave
> the
> > country " she said coldly and set it aside. Haag
> > grabbed it back, determinated to " walk across
> > Africa
> > barefoot or swim the Atlantic Ocean " to get it to
> > Tucson. The main problem was that he had no papers
> > from the museum releasing the meteorite. The line
> > behind him was filled with impatient travelers,
> and
> > the plane was scheduled to leave momentarily. The
> > official was under pressure. " Well, I've got
> these
> > papers " Haag said, and thrust all his Nigerian
> > money
> > on the table. " I have something back here " he
> > continued and turned around to retrieve a bag. In
> > that
> > instant the " papers " vanished. With a smile and
> a
> > thank-you, the official motioned Haag to the
> waiting
> > plane. This meteorite had a price on the world
> > market
> > of $1 milion. ((c) R.Norton )
> > 
> > well, this is corruption and illegal export. Our
> > Indian boy will make the same one?
> > 
> > Matteo
> > 
> > 
> > --- Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kevin,
> > > 
> > > Give me a break.
> > > I couldn't care less about your accomplishments
> or
> > > who you know.
> > > 
> > > After $5,000 and a week in hell , tell me you
> > > wouldn't keep a meteorite the size of a nickel.
> > > Lets be realistic , if you say that you wouldn't
> ,
> > > you would be lying.
> > > 
> > > Do you collect meteorites? I assume that you do.
> > > Were all of your meteorites legally exported
> from
> > > the locations that they were found?
> > > Seeing as this is such a sensitive issue for you
> ,
> > > I'd assume that you researched them all before
> you
> > > acquired them. Or did you?
> > > I know you couldn't possibly find them all your
> > > self. But purchasing meteorites that were
> > illegally
> > > exported would be as bad as illegally exporting
> > them
> > > yourself.
> > > 
> > > So , do you really care about legalities or are
> > you
> > > just an envious hypocrite?
> > > 
> > > Have a good day!
> > > 
> > > Bob Evans
> > >   - Original Message - 
> > >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >   Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:42 PM
> > >   Subject: Pardon me, dude
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Bob Evans:
> > > 
> > >   I don't recognize your name, aside from being
> a
> > > restaurant with daily "early bird " specials,
> and
> > > would encourage you in the future to research
> the
> > > people you address before directing ignorant,
> > > child-like public messages in their direction. 
> > > 
> > >   FYI - I've twice been to India for a month at
> a
> > > time on my way to mountaineering i

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call me a
boy again, I will break your face! I spent over 4
years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I think
that I am no longer a boy. Call me what you like, all
of your DAR AL GANI meteorites are STOLEN, do you
think that Libya allows them to be legally taken,
millions of dollar of stones leaving the country
without the government making a penny! You are a
hipocrite! do not say another word about me Matteo
until you look into a mirror and proclaim yourself a
sinless god. 

End of story, Bob saved Zagami. corruption is the norm
in all third world countries, try to fight it and you
will get killed. Of course you wouldnt know that, you
are too cowardly to leave Italy, see the world, take
risks. 


Mike Farmer
--- M come Meteorite Meteorites
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From Space Rocks:
> 
> Haag finaly had his Mars rock - if he could just
> hang
> on to it. He left Kaduna the same day and headed
> southwest to the city of Lagos on the Atlantic
> coast.
> There he was stopped cold by an official who was
> checking baggage. The meteorites set off the metal
> detectors. " What is this rock?" the official
> asked.Haag told her it was a meteorite given to him
> by
> the museum director of Kaduna. "That can't leave the
> country " she said coldly and set it aside. Haag
> grabbed it back, determinated to " walk across
> Africa
> barefoot or swim the Atlantic Ocean " to get it to
> Tucson. The main problem was that he had no papers
> from the museum releasing the meteorite. The line
> behind him was filled with impatient travelers, and
> the plane was scheduled to leave momentarily. The
> official was under pressure. " Well, I've got these
> papers " Haag said, and thrust all his Nigerian
> money
> on the table. " I have something back here " he
> continued and turned around to retrieve a bag. In
> that
> instant the " papers " vanished. With a smile and a
> thank-you, the official motioned Haag to the waiting
> plane. This meteorite had a price on the world
> market
> of $1 milion. ((c) R.Norton )
> 
> well, this is corruption and illegal export. Our
> Indian boy will make the same one?
> 
> Matteo
> 
> 
> --- Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > Give me a break.
> > I couldn't care less about your accomplishments or
> > who you know.
> > 
> > After $5,000 and a week in hell , tell me you
> > wouldn't keep a meteorite the size of a nickel.
> > Lets be realistic , if you say that you wouldn't ,
> > you would be lying.
> > 
> > Do you collect meteorites? I assume that you do.
> > Were all of your meteorites legally exported from
> > the locations that they were found?
> > Seeing as this is such a sensitive issue for you ,
> > I'd assume that you researched them all before you
> > acquired them. Or did you?
> > I know you couldn't possibly find them all your
> > self. But purchasing meteorites that were
> illegally
> > exported would be as bad as illegally exporting
> them
> > yourself.
> > 
> > So , do you really care about legalities or are
> you
> > just an envious hypocrite?
> > 
> > Have a good day!
> > 
> > Bob Evans
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >   Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:42 PM
> >   Subject: Pardon me, dude
> > 
> > 
> >   Bob Evans:
> > 
> >   I don't recognize your name, aside from being a
> > restaurant with daily "early bird " specials, and
> > would encourage you in the future to research the
> > people you address before directing ignorant,
> > child-like public messages in their direction. 
> > 
> >   FYI - I've twice been to India for a month at a
> > time on my way to mountaineering in Nepal, so I do
> > know something of the country. I've also twice led
> > expeditions to Bolivia (you can read about them in
> > several issues of Meteorite Magazine) where we
> found
> > Sevaruyo, Bolivia's first authenticated meteorite
> at
> > probably the highest altitude a meteorite has ever
> > been recovered. I hope that addresses the "balls"
> > issue.
> > 
> >   I travel to Costa Rica several times a year
> where
> > I own a second house. I'll be in France for a
> couple
> > of weeks next November for a vacation. I assure
> you
> > I can "afford" a little trip to India if I care to
> > go. 
> > 
> >   Bob Haag is a friend of mine (is he a friend of
> > yours?) and he didn't break any Nigerian laws
> > regarding Zagami.
> > 
> >   I'm addressing a serious point. The hobby of
> > meteorites has devolved to a point that makes it
> > acceptable for people to intentionally break the
> > laws of the country and be applauded by some for
> > their efforts. Adults consider this very bad and
> > people go to jail for less. The jails in India are
> > far less comfortable than the life we've read
> about.
> > I hope that Mike is indeed seeking out a legal
> > mechanism to remove the meteorite fragment from
> > India. 
> > 
> >   Apparently it's a all bit beyond your
> > com

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude

Matteo, I am losing my temper now, If you call me a
boy again, I will break your face! I spent over 4
years in the Army, and that was 10 years ago! I think
that I am no longer a boy. Call me what you like, all
of your DAR AL GANI meteorites are STOLEN, do you
think that Libya allows them to be legally taken,
millions of dollar of stones leaving the country
without the government making a penny! You are a
hipocrite! do not say another word about me Matteo
until you look into a mirror and proclaim yourself a
sinless god. 

End of story, Bob saved Zagami. corruption is the norm
in all third world countries, try to fight it and you
will get killed. Of course you wouldnt know that, you
are too cowardly to leave Italy, see the world, take
risks. 


Mike Farmer
--- M come Meteorite Meteorites
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From Space Rocks:
> 
> Haag finaly had his Mars rock - if he could just
> hang
> on to it. He left Kaduna the same day and headed
> southwest to the city of Lagos on the Atlantic
> coast.
> There he was stopped cold by an official who was
> checking baggage. The meteorites set off the metal
> detectors. " What is this rock?" the official
> asked.Haag told her it was a meteorite given to him
> by
> the museum director of Kaduna. "That can't leave the
> country " she said coldly and set it aside. Haag
> grabbed it back, determinated to " walk across
> Africa
> barefoot or swim the Atlantic Ocean " to get it to
> Tucson. The main problem was that he had no papers
> from the museum releasing the meteorite. The line
> behind him was filled with impatient travelers, and
> the plane was scheduled to leave momentarily. The
> official was under pressure. " Well, I've got these
> papers " Haag said, and thrust all his Nigerian
> money
> on the table. " I have something back here " he
> continued and turned around to retrieve a bag. In
> that
> instant the " papers " vanished. With a smile and a
> thank-you, the official motioned Haag to the waiting
> plane. This meteorite had a price on the world
> market
> of $1 milion. ((c) R.Norton )
> 
> well, this is corruption and illegal export. Our
> Indian boy will make the same one?
> 
> Matteo
> 
> 
> --- Comcast Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > Give me a break.
> > I couldn't care less about your accomplishments or
> > who you know.
> > 
> > After $5,000 and a week in hell , tell me you
> > wouldn't keep a meteorite the size of a nickel.
> > Lets be realistic , if you say that you wouldn't ,
> > you would be lying.
> > 
> > Do you collect meteorites? I assume that you do.
> > Were all of your meteorites legally exported from
> > the locations that they were found?
> > Seeing as this is such a sensitive issue for you ,
> > I'd assume that you researched them all before you
> > acquired them. Or did you?
> > I know you couldn't possibly find them all your
> > self. But purchasing meteorites that were
> illegally
> > exported would be as bad as illegally exporting
> them
> > yourself.
> > 
> > So , do you really care about legalities or are
> you
> > just an envious hypocrite?
> > 
> > Have a good day!
> > 
> > Bob Evans
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >   Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:42 PM
> >   Subject: Pardon me, dude
> > 
> > 
> >   Bob Evans:
> > 
> >   I don't recognize your name, aside from being a
> > restaurant with daily "early bird " specials, and
> > would encourage you in the future to research the
> > people you address before directing ignorant,
> > child-like public messages in their direction. 
> > 
> >   FYI - I've twice been to India for a month at a
> > time on my way to mountaineering in Nepal, so I do
> > know something of the country. I've also twice led
> > expeditions to Bolivia (you can read about them in
> > several issues of Meteorite Magazine) where we
> found
> > Sevaruyo, Bolivia's first authenticated meteorite
> at
> > probably the highest altitude a meteorite has ever
> > been recovered. I hope that addresses the "balls"
> > issue.
> > 
> >   I travel to Costa Rica several times a year
> where
> > I own a second house. I'll be in France for a
> couple
> > of weeks next November for a vacation. I assure
> you
> > I can "afford" a little trip to India if I care to
> > go. 
> > 
> >   Bob Haag is a friend of mine (is he a friend of
> > yours?) and he didn't break any Nigerian laws
> > regarding Zagami.
> > 
> >   I'm addressing a serious point. The hobby of
> > meteorites has devolved to a point that makes it
> > acceptable for people to intentionally break the
> > laws of the country and be applauded by some for
> > their efforts. Adults consider this very bad and
> > people go to jail for less. The jails in India are
> > far less comfortable than the life we've read
> about.
> > I hope that Mike is indeed seeking out a legal
> > mechanism to remove the meteorite fragment from
> > India. 
> > 
> >   Apparently it's a all bit beyond your
> > com

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Pardon me, dude