Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
After i filled the bug the package maintainer changer from recommand to suggest: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:31:12 +0100 Source: mimedefang Binary: mimedefang graphdefang Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.67-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christoph Martin christoph.mar...@uni-mainz.de Changed-By: Christoph Martin christoph.mar...@uni-mainz.de Description: graphdefang - grapher for MIMEDefang spam and virus logs mimedefang - e-mail filter program for sendmail Closes: 531530 555657 Changes: mimedefang (2.67-3) unstable; urgency=low . * because of change in apt-get/aptitude change recommends on tk8.3 | wish, sendmail to suggests (closes: #555657, #531530) He was quick, thanks to him for responding quickly like that :) so it should be ok for the future ! :) For information if another package is doing this you can use aptitude -R to install it without recommended packages. I still have the issue with the socket user/group/rights now :) -- Cordialement, Ghislain ADNET. AQUEOS. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
Richard Laager a écrit : On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:30 +0100, ADNET Ghislain wrote: i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) Does this solve the problem: sudo adduser postfix defang Richard no as the socket is created 750: srwxr-x--- 1 defang defang 0 Nov 11 09:54 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mimedefang/mimedefang.sock (root) adduser postfix defang The user `postfix' is already a member of `defang'. (i allready tried that ;) ) Nov 11 09:55:38 postfix/smtpd[29124]: warning: connect to Milter service unix:/var/run/mimedefang/mimedefang.sock: Permission denied -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
hi,
I have a silly question. As i try to install mimedefang and postfix on
debian it seems debian want to install sendmail and remove postfix as
soon as i say the 'mimedefang' word. Is there any way to make this work
or are we doomed to sendmail on debian ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libconvert-binhex-perl{a} libdrm2{a} libfontenc1{a} libgl1-mesa-glx{a}
libice6{a} libio-stringy-perl{a} libmilter1.0.1{a} libmime-tools-perl{a}
libperl5.10{a} libsm6{a} libunix-syslog-perl{a} libxaw7{a} libxdamage1{a}
libxfixes3{a} libxft2{a} libxi6{a} libxinerama1{a} libxmu6{a}
libxrender1{a} libxt6{a} libxtst6{a} libxv1{a} libxxf86dga1{a}
libxxf86vm1{a} m4{a} mimedefang sendmail{a} sendmail-base{a}
sendmail-bin{a} sendmail-cf{a}
sensible-mda{a} tcl8.3{a} tk8.3{a} x11-utils{a} xbitmaps{a} xterm{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
postfix{a}
--
Cordialement,
Ghislain
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Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ok i think i got it working by: - installing mimedefang - stopping sendmail - purging sendmail - installing postfix again strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. According to Debian site mimedefang package for stable (lenny) sendmail at recommends list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/mimedefang -- [plen: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu They spell it da Vinci and pronounce it da Vinchy. Foreigners always spell better than they pronounce. -- Mark Twain ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
Andrzej Adam Filip wrote: According to Debian site mimedefang package for stable (lenny) sendmail at recommends list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/mimedefang I think that's a bug. It should be suggests, because AFAIK apt-get now pulls in recommends packages unless you tell it otherwise. There are at least two good reasons to want to run MIMEDefang on a machine that isn't also running Sendmail, so the Debian policy should change. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 13:00 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. (I'm not the package maintainer, nor affiliated with him.) The mimedefang package [1] in Debian, regardless of which version of Debian you're running, doesn't depend on sendmail, it only recommends it. Thus, you should be able to have it installed without sendmail. Is MIMEDefang useful in any way without either sendmail or postfix installed? It seems to me that the package should say: Depends: sendmail | postfix. Richard [1] http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mimedefang signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
Richard Laager wrote: The mimedefang package [1] in Debian, regardless of which version of Debian you're running, doesn't depend on sendmail, it only recommends it. Thus, you should be able to have it installed without sendmail. Except, AFAIK, Debian is moving towards automatically installing recommended packages, or at least some of its package-management tools do this. Is MIMEDefang useful in any way without either sendmail or postfix installed? Sure. You could have a dedicated scanner that doesn't run an MTA. It could communicate via TCP/IP with the machines that run the MTA. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 13:35 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: I think that's a bug. It should be suggests, because AFAIK apt-get now pulls in recommends packages unless you tell it otherwise. As an aside, I was never a fan of this change, as it seems to lead to exactly this. There are at least two good reasons to want to run MIMEDefang on a machine that isn't also running Sendmail, so the Debian policy should change. One of those is that you'd want to use Postfix, Recommends: sendmail | postfix (or even Depends, from my last email) should address that one. What's the other use? Is it to run watch-mimedefang? If that's the case, maybe that should just be split out into a separate package. I see there's already an open bug suggesting that. Richard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, David F. Skoll wrote: Richard Laager wrote: What's the other use? I mentioned it in another post: You might want a standalone scanner that communicates with your MTAs via TCP. I don't really like that arrangement, but I'm pretty sure there are real-life MIMEDefang deployments that work that way. Yes, there are :-) Particularly when the number of MTA and mdf servers is large but not equal and the mdf servers run older-style memory file systems. Len ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
David F. Skoll a écrit : ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ADNET Ghislain gad...@aqueos.com wrote: David F. Skoll a écrit : ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) Add postfix user to defang group. -- [plen: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. -- motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:30 +0100, ADNET Ghislain wrote: i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) Does this solve the problem: sudo adduser postfix defang Richard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
