Error building system binaries
Hi Today I got this problem when build system Binaries after do and update to 3.9 -stable using patch brand. cc -o sshd sshd.o auth-rhosts.o auth-passwd.o auth-rsa.o auth-rh-rsa.o sshpty.o sshlogin.o servconf.o serverloop.o auth.o auth1.o auth2.o auth-options.o session.o auth-chall.o auth2-chall.o groupaccess.o auth-skey.o auth-bsdauth.o auth2-hostbased.o auth2-kbdint.o auth2-none.o auth2-passwd.o auth2-pubkey.o monitor_mm.o monitor.o monitor_wrap.o kexdhs.o kexgexs.o auth-krb5.o auth2-gss.o gss-serv.o gss-serv-krb5.o -L/usr/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd/../lib/obj -lssh -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lkafs -lcrypto -lutil -lz -ldes -lwrap sshd.o(.text+0x1bd): In function `grace_alarm_handler': : undefined reference to `sigdie' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd (line 93 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/ssh. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src (line 73 of Makefile). Any Idea?? Thank you Marcos
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On 14/01/07, Samurai Chef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for > commercial use? > > Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner > to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? > > To quote from http://www.openbsd.org/art4.html: "Most images provided here are copyright by OpenBSD, by Theo de Raadt, or by other members or developers of the OpenBSD group. However, it is our intent that anyone be able to use these images to represent OpenBSD in a positive light. So enjoy them and let the world see them, if that is your wish. " I believe that means I am free to make and sell the cups and glasses. anyone disagree with my interpertation of that statement? Read the archives. Theo explained here the copyright law many times, specifically to your situation about the use of artwork -- unless you are explicitly given the right to sell you don't have such a right [1]. Period, this is misc@ and not legal@, so this is not even worth any further discussion here. Therefore, unless he specifically gives you an OK to sell, you can expect to have legal problems. :) [1] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-03/2490.html
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
> To quote from http://www.openbsd.org/art4.html: > "Most images provided here are copyright by OpenBSD, by Theo de Raadt, > or by other members or developers of the OpenBSD group. However, it is > our intent that anyone be able to use these images to represent > OpenBSD in a positive light. So enjoy them and let the world see them, > if that is your wish. " > > I believe that means I am free to make and sell the cups and glasses. > anyone disagree with my interpertation of that statement? Wrong, no one has given explicit permission to reprint the artwork. Using these on mugs is a copyright violation. Copyright is inherent and has to be explicitly surrendered; in this case it did not happen. What that sentence intends to say is "you can use the artwork on a website to portray OpenBSD in positive light" although that is not necessarily clear either. On a final note Theo has very often, publicly on the mailing lists, prohibited people from reproducing the images.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
>You are correct on the money aspect, see my other post. > >I have asked for permission from Theo out of courtesy. I have not >received a reply yet. Once I have that permission and higher quality >artwork I will place the orders. After that, it will take about 10 >days to get the products. Then I will announce them and make them >available. Theo will be offline for large portions of the next 6 weeks as he is hiking. I would suggest that if you've waiting this long to decide to do this "work", you can probably wait until Theo's return...
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for commercial use? Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? To quote from http://www.openbsd.org/art4.html: "Most images provided here are copyright by OpenBSD, by Theo de Raadt, or by other members or developers of the OpenBSD group. However, it is our intent that anyone be able to use these images to represent OpenBSD in a positive light. So enjoy them and let the world see them, if that is your wish. " I believe that means I am free to make and sell the cups and glasses. anyone disagree with my interpertation of that statement?
Poor performance with gem(4)? (reposted from ppc@)
(sorry for the repost, I guess there aren't many eyes on ppc@) Has anyone else noticed extremely poor performance with gem(4) devices, particularly on the Mac Mini G4? dmesg is below, but the summary is that I have a gem(4), and after finally being fed up with the poor performance I plugged in an old axe (4) that I had lying around: gem0 at pci2 dev 15 function 0 "Apple Uni-N2 GMAC" rev 0x80: irq 41, address 00:0d:93:60:bd:36 bmtphy0 at gem0 phy 0: BCM5221 100baseTX PHY, rev. 4 axe0 at uhub5 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 axe0: Linksys USB 2.0 10/100 ethernet controller, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2, AX88172, address 00:10:60:25:d0:17 rlphy0 at axe0 phy 3: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 Using scp(1) on the local network I was seeing about 100KB/s transfer rates (according to scp(1)). I was also noticing that large images were taking a long time to load on the websites I am serving off this machine, even for machines directly connected to the same 100baseTX switch. I ruled out the hard drive as the performance problem by doing several scp operations to /dev/null. The transfer rate was exactly the same. I also noticed that if I had a long-running scp transfer that responses to keyboard input were sluggish, both on the directly attached keyboard & mouse, and through ssh sessions. So I plugged in the axe(4) and repeated the tests, and I was getting 2MB/s - 4MB/s. Still terrible, but much better than the built-in gem (4). All images on the website load *immediately* now, very, very noticeably faster than previous. There is also no sluggishness when the network is busy. Are there any known problems with gem(4) on Macs, or is this likely a case of bad hardware? The cable and switch are both fine. I'm using the same connections with the axe(4) and it's working fine (although at expected USB speeds). [ using 357352 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] console out [ATY,RockHopper2_A]console in [keyboard] USB found using parent ATY,RockHopper2Paren:: memaddr 9800 size 800, : consaddr 9c008000, : ioaddr 9002, size 2: memtag 8000, iotag 8000: width 640 linebytes 768 height 480 depth 8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2006 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http:// www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.0-stable (GENERIC) #0: Fri Nov 10 15:06:55 PST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/macppc/compile/GENERIC real mem = 268435456 (262144K) avail mem = 235343872 (229828K) using 1254 buffers containing 13418496 bytes (13104K) of memory mainbus0 (root): model PowerMac10,1 cpu0 at mainbus0: 7447A (Revision 0x102): 1416 MHz: 512KB L2 cache memc0 at mainbus0: uni-n "hw-clock" at memc0 not configured ki2c0 at memc0 offset 0xf8001000 iic0 at ki2c0 mpcpcibr0 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0xff pci0 at mpcpcibr0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Apple UniNorth AGP" rev 0x00 vgafb0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "ATI Radeon 9200" rev 0x01, mmio wsdisplay0 at vgafb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) mpcpcibr1 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x5 pci1 at mpcpcibr1 bus 0 pchb1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 "Apple UniNorth PCI" rev 0x00 macobio0 at pci1 dev 23 function 0 "Apple Intrepid" rev 0x00 openpic0 at macobio0 offset 0x4: version 0x4614 macgpio0 at macobio0 offset 0x50 "modem-reset" at macgpio0 offset 0x1d not configured "modem-power" at macgpio0 offset 0x1c not configured macgpio1 at macgpio0 offset 0x9 irq 47 "programmer-switch" at macgpio0 offset 0x11 not configured "gpio5" at macgpio0 offset 0x6f not configured "gpio6" at macgpio0 offset 0x70 not configured "extint-gpio15" at macgpio0 offset 0x67 not configured "escc-legacy" at macobio0 offset 0x12000 not configured zsc0 at macobio0 offset 0x13000: irq 22,23 zstty0 at zsc0 channel 0 zstty1 at zsc0 channel 1 aoa0 at macobio0 offset 0x1: irq 30,1,2 audio0 at aoa0 "timer" at macobio0 offset 0x15000 not configured adb0 at macobio0 offset 0x16000 irq 25: via-pmu, 0 targets apm0 at adb0: battery flags 0x0, 0% charged pi2c0 at adb0 iic1 at pi2c0 maxtmp0 at iic1 addr 0xc8: max6642 ki2c1 at macobio0 offset 0x18000 iic2 at ki2c1 wdc0 at macobio0 offset 0x2 irq 24: DMA ohci0 at pci1 dev 24 function 0 "Apple Intrepid USB" rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 "Apple Intrepid USB" rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0, legacy support usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ohci2 at pci1 dev 26 function 0 "Apple Intrepid USB" rev 0x00: irq 29, version 1.0, legacy support usb2 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: Apple OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ohci3 at pc
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
> -Original Message- > From: Marc Balmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:11 PM > To: Umnada Tyrolla > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug > > * Umnada Tyrolla wrote: > > > Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because > > others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they > shouldn't be > > paid for it. > > > > On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating > anything. Maybe a > > profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? > Or how about > > a three-way split, one for OBSD/Theo? > > How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) > artwork for > commercial use? > Of course. > Did he get the permissions? > Does he have an OK from the > copyright owner > to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? That's an important point, but it might be in the artist's best interest to remain "unreachable". If Samurai Chef "makes it big", and franchises his mug retail stores, the copyright holder will really be in for a windfall. On the other hand, if he just sells a gross or so, the artist work will not only be on the screens of OpenBSD users but also in their hands every time they get caffeinated.
Re: php mail() function fails
On Friday 12 January 2007 23:59, Ste Jones wrote: > Just out of interest does femail need a sh in the chroot like > mini_sendmail? mini_sendmail doesn't need it, it's PHP that does. --- Lars Hansson
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On 1/15/07 1:11 AM, Marc Balmer wrote: * Umnada Tyrolla wrote: Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid for it. On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Isn't he programming the website http://www.discountmugs.com/ ? He is creating mugs that people seem to want to pay for and those mugs will leave a message in favor of OpenBSD everywhere. >> Maybe a profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? Or how about a three-way split, one for OBSD/Theo? How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for commercial use? Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? Samurai Chef should make sure he sends Theo at least one cent and loses at least one cent on his project so it's not commercial and over all a donation to OpenBSD. +++chefren p.s. Make sure the "RTFM" is as bold and big as possible, if artwork is needed for that, please mail me.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On 1/14/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? Not yet. I'm working on it however. My understanding is that Theo is the copyright holder. I have an sent an email to Theo for this use. From what I have been told, Theo is hiking for the next 5 weeks.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
At this point, I leave it to samurai, theo and the artist to work it out. It shouldn't matter to us what the split is as long as those 3 are happy, and anyone of them can kill the project if they're not individually happy. Having said that, a metal mug like suggested, would be more of what I want, if I could afford it :-) -Tai On 1/14/07, Umnada Tyrolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid for it. On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Maybe a profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? Or how about a three-way split, one for OBSD/Theo? --volunteer consultant > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Nick Davey > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:08 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not marketing a brand, he's > fulfilling a market request. He's keeping some of the > proceeds that he > earned by spending his time, and initially, his money, so > that we have > these products available. It doesn't seem quiet unreasonable > > Nick > > Deanna Phillips wrote: > > Samurai Chef writes: > > > > > >> Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > >> and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I > >> > > ^ > > > > Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent > > "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth > > money. > > > > > >> will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a > >> little profit
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 01:11:24AM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: > How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork > for commercial use? > > Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright > owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork? All those questions are the reason why I would have loved the project itself to take action and sell mugs :) Regards, Martin [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
* Umnada Tyrolla wrote: > Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because > others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be > paid for it. > > On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Maybe a > profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? Or how about > a three-way split, one for OBSD/Theo? How about thinking if he is allowed to use the (copyrighted) artwork for commercial use? Did he get the permissions? Does he have an OK from the copyright owner to market these mugs using a copyrighted artwork?
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jean-Daniel Beaubien > > I just wanted to say that if your worried about the cost of broken > mugs (like bofh mentioned a few post earlier) you could simply sell > the 'Travel mugs'. Since they are made of stainless steel, I very > much doubt they would break during shipping or spill! No, seriously though, Samurai Chef wouldn't have to pay for mugs that were broken in transit. Might have to raise the price above book-rate shipping. > ...Also I find them more practical. > > > You would even have more possibiliy with the travel mugs I think: > > Normal type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/steel_stbistro-travel.htm > Car/travel type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/travel-mugs-dm399.htm > Vaccuum flask (thermos): > http://www.discountmugs.com/vacuum-flask-large-travel.htm > > Anyways, those are just my 2 cents. > > Jd > > P.S. I'd probably be interested to buy some of your product if you > followed through with your idea.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Seems to me like Samurai Chef is providing a service. Just because others do things (like program) for free doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid for it. On the other hand, Samurai Chef isn't really creating anything. Maybe a profit split between the artwork creator and Samurai Chef? Or how about a three-way split, one for OBSD/Theo? --volunteer consultant > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Nick Davey > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:08 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not marketing a brand, he's > fulfilling a market request. He's keeping some of the > proceeds that he > earned by spending his time, and initially, his money, so > that we have > these products available. It doesn't seem quiet unreasonable > > Nick > > Deanna Phillips wrote: > > Samurai Chef writes: > > > > > >> Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > >> and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I > >> > > ^ > > > > Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent > > "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth > > money. > > > > > >> will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a > >> little profit
pf freezing with MS remote desktop
I am using OBSD 3.8 as a firewall for a small office and I have an XP user that connects to a remote host via MS Remote Desktop (TCP 3389). Occasionally, this user complains that her connection is severed and that afterwards she can no longer reconnect. (She has taken the bad habit, of which I have recently became aware, of goig into the next room and cold booting the machine; which solves the problem.) So far, this appears to be a random occurence. I have a fairly beefy system that is a dedicated firewall: 1 GHz intel CPU with 128 MB of RAM. The network interfaces: rl and ste. I do not have any logs yet to help diagnose the problem. I was wondering that maybe others have experienced the same issue or whether people have some ideas on how to troubleshoot. Peter
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Thanks for taking on the project. I'm good for a couple of mugs. On 1/14/07, Samurai Chef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are free to do the same thing and donate all profits to whomever you wish. If you don't agree, then don't buy. I've stated my position and if you don't agree, then you don't agree. I have no intentions on engaging you on a long discussion of the merits of this project. On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Samurai Chef writes: > > > Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > > and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I > ^ > > Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent > "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth > money. > > > will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a > > little profit -- Jan Mason Registered Linux User #156002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
I just wanted to say that if your worried about the cost of broken mugs (like bofh mentioned a few post earlier) you could simply sell the 'Travel mugs'. Since they are made of stainless steel, I very much doubt they would break during shipping...Also I find them more practical. You would even have more possibiliy with the travel mugs I think: Normal type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/steel_stbistro-travel.htm Car/travel type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/travel-mugs-dm399.htm Vaccuum flask (thermos): http://www.discountmugs.com/vacuum-flask-large-travel.htm Anyways, those are just my 2 cents. Jd P.S. I'd probably be interested to buy some of your product if you followed through with your idea.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not marketing a brand, he's fulfilling a market request. He's keeping some of the proceeds that he earned by spending his time, and initially, his money, so that we have these products available. It doesn't seem quiet unreasonable Nick Deanna Phillips wrote: Samurai Chef writes: Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I ^ Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth money. will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a little profit
Re: Friendly registrar
Not sure if they are specifically OpenBSD friendly, but gandi.net is alternative-friendly and opensource friendly (see http://www.gandi.net/soutient/ ) . And they are french, which might be a plus on your book ;) I think Henning's company also did registrar services ( http://www.bsws.de/ ), in which case you know what's being used infrastructure-wise, and where the bling bling goes. Kind regards, P Jean-Daniel Beaubien schreef: Hi everyone, I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, contributions, etc...). Thanks, JD
Re: Friendly registrar
Hi Jean-Daniel, > I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are > any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, > contributions, etc...). I like GoDaddy. They're on donations.html. HTH... Nico
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
You are free to do the same thing and donate all profits to whomever you wish. If you don't agree, then don't buy. I've stated my position and if you don't agree, then you don't agree. I have no intentions on engaging you on a long discussion of the merits of this project. On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samurai Chef writes: > Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I ^ Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth money. > will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a > little profit
Friendly registrar
Hi everyone, I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, contributions, etc...). Thanks, JD
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Samurai Chef writes: > Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up > and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I ^ Aha, that's where I thought this was going. So your time spent "marketing" a "brand" created by unpaid volunteers is worth money. > will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a > little profit
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
You are correct on the money aspect, see my other post. I have asked for permission from Theo out of courtesy. I have not received a reply yet. Once I have that permission and higher quality artwork I will place the orders. After that, it will take about 10 days to get the products. Then I will announce them and make them available. On 1/14/07, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Samurai Chef writes: > > > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. > > Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious. Probably some upfront costs, and you need some capital for the next batch, etc. Also need some $$ to cover for broken ones, people who didn't follow through on their orders, etc. It is a pain to deal with brokenware, which, I think is one of the reasons Theo doesn't want to do it. Before anything gets done, if I were doing it, I'll probably want 2 things, permission from the artist of the wireframe puffy, and if the word "OpenBSD" appears anywhere, permission from Theo, just to be nice, if nothing else.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Because I have a risk involved. I am placing my own money up and spending my time to fill a market request. Therefore I will keep some of the money to cover my costs and have a little profit to provide more products in the future. Some of the money will go back to the project. I could be a real bastard and not donate any money back, but I feel that would be wrong. IMHO, profiting from the excellent work that has been done on the project and not returning anything is selfish. I am not a programmer and really don't have the inclination to become one. This is my way of providing something back to the OpenBSD community. I hope that explains my position. On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samurai Chef writes: > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On 1/14/07, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samurai Chef writes: > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious. Probably some upfront costs, and you need some capital for the next batch, etc. Also need some $$ to cover for broken ones, people who didn't follow through on their orders, etc. It is a pain to deal with brokenware, which, I think is one of the reasons Theo doesn't want to do it. Before anything gets done, if I were doing it, I'll probably want 2 things, permission from the artist of the wireframe puffy, and if the word "OpenBSD" appears anywhere, permission from Theo, just to be nice, if nothing else.
Re: VOIP NAT
Brian Candler wrote: What, specifically is your issue? One huge issue has to do with pf and SIP protocol design. SIP signaling messages go over a well-known port (5060/tcp), but the media traffic (the actual voice packets) go over some random port negotiated during call setup. I believe that what you describe is what my VOIP provider (teliax.com, fwiw) does on their Asterisk box. It works great, and we (the customers) don't have to do any funny NAT config, just the stock configuration works great. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson | Xenon @ 3D Nature | http://www.3DNature.com/ "I set the wheels in motion, turn up all the machines, activate the programs, and run behind the scenes. I set the clouds in motion, turn up light and sound, activate the window, and watch the world go 'round." -Prime Mover, Rush.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Samurai Chef writes: > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. Huh. What portions? Why not all proceeds? Just curious.
Re: compiling kernel for sparc64 target on a i386 machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i saw that, but i can't found the cross-compiling tools, that are > on the system. :-( i there anyone who use that ? > > Thomas AGAIN, cross compiling is not supported. How can we make that more clear? If you wish to do this, you are ON YOUR OWN (that means you don't get hand-holding, and asking questions will be greeted with responses you may consider almost as rude as we consider asking the questions after you have been told "DON'T!"). You need to spend a LOT of time learning the tools (which are there! Hint: it's the exact same tools), reading the Makefiles, FIXING the Makefiles (as they are not typically maintained, they are likely broken, and will likely be broken in the future, even if you get it all to work today), and fixing and dealing with a snootload of tools that are full of annoying little flaws that will make your life unpleasant. If you gotta ask "how" and "where", the answer is "no". Sorry... Nick.
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:23:11PM -0600, Samurai Chef wrote: > There has been quite a bit of response so far, that's very > encouraging. Thank you to all who have responded so far. > > Here is what I am planning on ordering: white coffee cups with puffy > and OpenBSD logo wraped around the cup. planning on using the logo > from http://www.openbsd.org/art/puffy/puflogh1000X248.gif. Nice, sign me up for one of those. > pint glasses with the wirehead puffy logo from > http://www.openbsd.org/images/tshirt-23.gif > > if sales go well with those two items, i will expand the merchandise > selections. > > portions of the sales will be donated back to the project. > > if anyone has information about the artist for these logos, please > forward that information as I need higher quality images for good > imprinting. > > thanks again everyone. The same to you. Regards, Martin [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
Samurai Chef wrote: > I'll do it. I'll order some and announce here. I'll set up a ebay > store for the merchandise. contact me with requests. I'd take a few if you got them done. Tom
