Re: timezone anomalies

[Woodchuck]

On Sun, 25 May 2008, frantisek holop wrote:

> hmm, on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:56:22PM -0400, Woodchuck said that
> > Set your camera to UTC and be happy.
> 
> and have rubbish exif info in every picture?  no thanks.
> at least that is OS independent and the only correct data
> no matter what.
> 
> this is like saying, set your watch to UTC and when
> looking at the time, do the math yourself...

Well, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

man 2 stat.  Read and learn.

Dave

Re: [OT] Python License [WAS: Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?]

[Denis Doroshenko]

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/24/08, Martin Marcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  is  there any chance realistic chance that python will be part of the obsd
>>  default at some point in the forseeable future?
>
> No.

unless perhaps a new developer [messiah] would come who would create
universes in python like it'd be nothing :-)

Re: Problems trunk-ing tun interfaces

[Lord Sporkton]

2008/5/25 Romar Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bump
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Romar Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:46 AM
> Subject: Problems trunk-ing tun interfaces
> To: misc@openbsd.org
>
>
> I need help trunking tun interfaces.
>
> Actual goal - aggregate six ADSL connections from an office to a
> central network with gigE internet access for higher bandwidth to the
> office.
>
> Current state- four layer 2 tunnels that work individually, but which
> fail when part of a trunk virtual interface
> I've tried trunkproto of roundrobin, loadbalance and failover and none
> of them work. When not part of the trunk, the individual tun pass
> traffic properly.
>
> Is there some sysctl setting I'm not aware of that is required for
> trunking the tun interfaces to pass IP traffic across all the tun
> interfaces?
>
> --
> Romar Morales
>
>

This was an interesting one to me as i wanted to do something similar
with cable and dsl, so i looked it up in the man pages and i dont see
anything sticking out wrong with your setup, could you post in some
configs and such? output of interfaces from ifconfig, etc?



-- 
-Lawrence

Re: [OT] C code

[Kendall Shaw]

On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 00:11 -0400, deoxy wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> apue.h is OK I take this of http://safari.oreilly.com/0201433079/app02
> and this is in my folder.
> The err_quit is in line 108 "void err_quit(const char *, ...)i;"
> err_dump and err_sys are similar.
> 
> regards.
> 
> Dmitri.
> 
> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 09:11:51AM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> > > $cc F3_10.c
> > > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> > > :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> > > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> > > :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> > > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> > > :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >
> > > The source is:
> > >
> > >
> > > #include "apue.h"
> > 
> > This is the clue - where do you think is apue.h? Take a look at the
> > last few pages of the book, and you will see.
> > 
> > -Amarendra

It might be that you would prefer to start by learning more about C and
your compiler first, before unix programming in C.

Assuming that 'i;' at the end of the line isn't actually there, you are
probably not passing an object module to the linker. Aside from letting
the precompiler find apue.h, you also have to compile the code that
implements those functions and link it with the object module compiled
from your FE_10.c, or compile them together as someone else suggested.

Kendall

Re: Problems trunk-ing tun interfaces

[Romar Morales]

Bump


-- Forwarded message --
From: Romar Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:46 AM
Subject: Problems trunk-ing tun interfaces
To: misc@openbsd.org


I need help trunking tun interfaces.

Actual goal - aggregate six ADSL connections from an office to a
central network with gigE internet access for higher bandwidth to the
office.

Current state- four layer 2 tunnels that work individually, but which
fail when part of a trunk virtual interface
I've tried trunkproto of roundrobin, loadbalance and failover and none
of them work. When not part of the trunk, the individual tun pass
traffic properly.

Is there some sysctl setting I'm not aware of that is required for
trunking the tun interfaces to pass IP traffic across all the tun
interfaces?

--
Romar Morales

Re: [OT] C code

[Woodchuck]

On Sun, 25 May 2008, deoxy wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a valid 
> cuestion...
> I reading a book recomended in http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is 
> "Advanced programmig in the unix environment".
> In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not compile. the error is:
> 
> $cc F3_10.c
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> The source is:
> 
> 
> #include "apue.h"
> #include 
> 
> int
> main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
>   int val;
>   if (argc != 2)
> err_quit("usage: a.out ");
>   if ((val = fcntl(atoi(argv[1]), F_GETFL, 0)) < 0)
> err_sys("fcntl error for fd %d", atoi(argv[1]));

You might be happier using the err(3) stuff from the standard
library.

See man err

I would replace err_quit(stuff) with  errx(1, stuff)
err_sys(stuff)  with  warn(stuff)

and so on, using err or errx to force the program to end
and dump core, or warn or warnx to keep executing.

Some (old) unix versions may not have err, errx, warn, warnx.

Look in the back of the book and verify that the err/warn stuff
is doing what you expect.

Dave

Re: [OT] C code

[deoxy]

Hello.

apue.h is OK I take this of http://safari.oreilly.com/0201433079/app02
and this is in my folder.
The err_quit is in line 108 "void err_quit(const char *, ...)i;"
err_dump and err_sys are similar.

regards.

Dmitri.

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 09:11:51AM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> > $cc F3_10.c
> > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> > :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> > :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> > /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> > :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> >
> > The source is:
> >
> >
> > #include "apue.h"
> 
> This is the clue - where do you think is apue.h? Take a look at the
> last few pages of the book, and you will see.
> 
> -Amarendra

Re: gnats

[Mark Shroyer]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:12:39AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> Unfortunately (for gnats), many ISPs block outbound port 25
> traffic to anything other than their mail servers.  Even if
> yours doesn't block port 25, I'm pretty sure the target
> machine uses greylisting, so you have to leave the machine
> you used sendbug on up long enough to clear the greylisting.
> 
> /var/log/maillog will tell the story...
> 
> IF you have your own mail server, I've had some luck killing
> sendmail on the local machine, then doing an ssh port
> forwarding of port 25 to your mail server.  Something like
> this might work for you (as root, since you are messing with
> a priv. port)
>   ssh -f -N -L 25:localhost:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (it might not, too.  Something like that worked for me, but
> I didn't jot down exactly what I did, so that might not be
> it.  If this DOES work for you, let me know so I can put it
> in my "notes" (i.e., the FAQ :) properly)
> 
> Don't forget to kill that ssh session and restart sendmail
> to bring the system back up to proper operation when done!

Clever...  but a possibly simpler / more long-term solution is to put

define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.your.isp.net')dnl

in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/openbsd-localhost.mc, rebuild the
configuration with

# m4 /usr/share/sendmail/m4/cf.m4 \
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/openbsd-localhost.mc \
>/etc/mail/localhost.cf

and then restart Sendmail with

# pkill sendmail
# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L sm-mta -C/etc/mail/localhost.cf \
-bd -q30m

Next up, how to redirect to your ISP's mail server using PF ;)

-- 
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/contact/

Re: [OT] C code

[Mark Shroyer]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:41:38PM -0400, deoxy wrote:
> I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a
> valid cuestion...  I reading a book recomended in
> http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is "Advanced programmig in
> the unix environment".  In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not
> compile. the error is:
> 
> $cc F3_10.c
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> The source is:
> 
> 
> #include "apue.h"
> #include 
> 
> int
> main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
>   int val;
>   if (argc != 2)
> err_quit("usage: a.out ");
>   if ((val = fcntl(atoi(argv[1]), F_GETFL, 0)) < 0)
> err_sys("fcntl error for fd %d", atoi(argv[1]));
> 
>   switch (val & O_ACCMODE) {
>   case O_RDONLY:
>   printf("read only");
>   break;
>   case O_WRONLY:
>   printf("write only");
>   break;
>   case O_RDWR:
>   printf("read write");
>   break;
>   default:
>   err_dump("unknown access mode");
>   }
>   if (val & O_APPEND)
>   printf(", append");
>   if (val & O_NONBLOCK)
>   printf(", nonblocking");
>   #if  defined(O_SYNC)
>   if (val & O_SYNC)
>   printf(", synchronous writes");
>   #endif
>   putchar('\n');
>   exit(0);
>   }

The problem is that the author's custom error functions -- err_quit,
err_sys, etc. -- have not been defined anywhere in your program (nor are
they prototyped in apue.h, and unfortunately he isn't really clear about
this fact).  See Appendix B.2 for some example definitions...  you'll
probably want to put these in a separate C file for easy reuse.

For example, suppose the contents of Figure B.3 in Appendix B.2 ("Error
functions that output to standard error") have been written to the file
error.c, in the same directory as apue.h and a file fig03-10.c
containing the source code from Figure 3.10.  Then to compile program
3.10 successfully, you could do:

$ cc fig03-10.c error.c

-- 
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/contact/

Re: [OT] C code

[Amarendra Godbole]

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 8:11 AM, deoxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a valid 
> cuestion...
> I reading a book recomended in http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is 
> "Advanced programmig in the unix environment".
> In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not compile. the error is:
>
> $cc F3_10.c
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> The source is:
>
>
> #include "apue.h"

This is the clue - where do you think is apue.h? Take a look at the
last few pages of the book, and you will see.

-Amarendra

Re: [OT] C code

[Kendall Shaw]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 22:41 -0400, deoxy wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a valid 
> cuestion...
> I reading a book recomended in http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is 
> "Advanced programmig in the unix environment".
> In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not compile. the error is:
> 
> $cc F3_10.c
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> The source is:
> 
> 
> #include "apue.h"
> #include 
> 
> int
> main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
>   int val;
>   if (argc != 2)
> err_quit("usage: a.out ");
>   if ((val = fcntl(atoi(argv[1]), F_GETFL, 0)) < 0)
> err_sys("fcntl error for fd %d", atoi(argv[1]));
> 
>   switch (val & O_ACCMODE) {
>   case O_RDONLY:
>   printf("read only");
>   break;
>   case O_WRONLY:
>   printf("write only");
>   break;
>   case O_RDWR:
>   printf("read write");
>   break;
>   default:
>   err_dump("unknown access mode");
>   }
>   if (val & O_APPEND)
>   printf(", append");
>   if (val & O_NONBLOCK)
>   printf(", nonblocking");
>   #if  defined(O_SYNC)
>   if (val & O_SYNC)
>   printf(", synchronous writes");
>   #endif
>   putchar('\n');
>   exit(0);
>   }
> 
> I dont know wath is the problem. your can helpme?
> 
> Sorry my bad english.
> 
> regards.
> 
> Dmitri.-

I think you are supposed to add the definitions for err_quit etc. from
the back of the book. You can download them I think and then you have to
link to them and make sure apue.h is on your include path.

Kendall

Re: Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd

[Nick Holland]

F. Caulier wrote:
...
> I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to
> install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I
> downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on
> a small separate partition in a directory named /boot,
> modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that.
>
> It didn't work out, here's what I get:
> panic: /boot too old: upgrade!

yep, GRUB doesn't know how to load OpenBSD.  It may have
once, but apparently no one has maintained that.

> The operating system has halted.
> Please press any key to reboot

[snip]

> In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0]
> ... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD,
> ...
> 
> Does this probably mean that the install method with
> bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD
> system existing on the harddisk?

yep.  You put it on the OpenBSD partition and use the
OpenBSD boot loader to load it instead of the normal
kernel.

> If that's correct, is there any other suitable
> installation method using a install-image on a
> harddisk?
>
> Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the
> following:
> I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally
> different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install
> method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an
> USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook.
> There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary
> partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again,
> edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd.

oh, the pain.
Hint: grub is not an answer to your question.  The people
who write grub don't care much about OpenBSD, and OpenBSD
developers don't have a lot of use for GRUB.  Anything it
can do, we can do other ways better and easier.  As far
as booting OpenBSD, all grub can do is replace a <500 byte
program...with clumsy monster.

People sometimes ask questions like this, usually posing
it as if it were OpenBSD that is not installable on the
system...yet, as you describe it, from a blank disk, no OS
would be.  Obviously, that's not the case, so the first
guide you should use is "how would I install the intended
OS on this system?"  Odds are, OpenBSD installs in the
exact same way.

However, assuming something like "with a special external
CDROM drive I don't own, and am not willing to spend the
money to get", I'd just pull the disk out of this machine,
plug it (with appropriate adapters) into whatever else you
have that is self-sufficient, and install there, and move
the disk back to the laptop.  OpenBSD (with minor tweaking
for the network adapter) will then Just Work.  (not true
of the "intended OS", and possibly not going to work with
the OS GRUB was intended for, either).  Note: you could
probably even use an external USB enclosure attached to a
machine that can't even boot from USB (load, yes. Test,
no).

IF you happen to have a 3Com network adapter in that thing,
3Com has a PXE boot floppy available, which can turn almost
any 3Com network adapter into a PXE device.  'Course, once
you get it to boot off a floppy, might as well just do as
Ted suggested and install OpenBSD from that...

Nick.

Re: [OT] C code

[Kendall Shaw]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 22:41 -0400, deoxy wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a valid 
> cuestion...
> I reading a book recomended in http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is 
> "Advanced programmig in the unix environment".
> In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not compile. the error is:
> 
> $cc F3_10.c
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_quit'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_sys'
> /tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
> :undefined reference to 'err_dump'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> The source is:
> 
> 
> #include "apue.h"
> #include 
> 
> int
> main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
>   int val;
>   if (argc != 2)
> err_quit("usage: a.out ");
>   if ((val = fcntl(atoi(argv[1]), F_GETFL, 0)) < 0)
> err_sys("fcntl error for fd %d", atoi(argv[1]));
> 
>   switch (val & O_ACCMODE) {
>   case O_RDONLY:
>   printf("read only");
>   break;
>   case O_WRONLY:
>   printf("write only");
>   break;
>   case O_RDWR:
>   printf("read write");
>   break;
>   default:
>   err_dump("unknown access mode");
>   }
>   if (val & O_APPEND)
>   printf(", append");
>   if (val & O_NONBLOCK)
>   printf(", nonblocking");
>   #if  defined(O_SYNC)
>   if (val & O_SYNC)
>   printf(", synchronous writes");
>   #endif
>   putchar('\n');
>   exit(0);
>   }
> 
> I dont know wath is the problem. your can helpme?
> 
> Sorry my bad english.
> 
> regards.
> 
> Dmitri.-

Those functions are defined in the back of the book, as I recall.

[OT] C code

[deoxy]

Hello.

I dont know if this a cuestion for this list, but I think is it a valid 
cuestion...
I reading a book recomended in http://www.openbsd.org/books.html The book is 
"Advanced programmig in the unix environment".
In this book I read Figure 3.1 but this not compile. the error is:

$cc F3_10.c
/tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+027): In function 'main':
:undefined reference to 'err_quit'
/tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.text+0x74): In fuction 'main':
:undefined reference to 'err_sys'
/tmp//ccnsuA79.o(.txt+0xdf): In functiion 'main':
:undefined reference to 'err_dump'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

The source is:


#include "apue.h"
#include 

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
int val;
if (argc != 2)
  err_quit("usage: a.out ");
if ((val = fcntl(atoi(argv[1]), F_GETFL, 0)) < 0)
  err_sys("fcntl error for fd %d", atoi(argv[1]));

switch (val & O_ACCMODE) {
case O_RDONLY:
printf("read only");
break;
case O_WRONLY:
printf("write only");
break;
case O_RDWR:
printf("read write");
break;
default:
err_dump("unknown access mode");
}
if (val & O_APPEND)
printf(", append");
if (val & O_NONBLOCK)
printf(", nonblocking");
#if  defined(O_SYNC)
if (val & O_SYNC)
printf(", synchronous writes");
#endif
putchar('\n');
exit(0);
}

I dont know wath is the problem. your can helpme?

Sorry my bad english.

regards.

Dmitri.-

Re: [OT] Python License [WAS: Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?]

[Ted Unangst]

On 5/24/08, Martin Marcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  How about the python license?

How about them Yankees?

> Given that is
>  there any chance realistic chance that python will be part of the obsd
>  default at some point in the forseeable future?

No.

Re: timezone anomalies

[Ted Unangst]

On 5/25/08, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  what i am trying to say is, that at least for me it doesn't
>  make sense by default to apply TZ to files on the disk

fortunately, they're not.

Re: Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd

[Ted Unangst]

use a usb floppy.

On 5/25/08, F. Caulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
>  I'm currently trying to install OpenBSD-4.3 on my
>  subnotebook (JVC MP-XP3), the problem is that it
>  doesn't have any CD-ROM and/or floppy drive and it
>  isn't capable of booting using PXE nor booting from
>  USB-HDD. (Already checked that)
>
>  I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to
>  install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I
>  downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on
>  a small separate partition in a directory named /boot,
>  modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that.
>
>  It didn't work out, here's what I get:
>  panic: /boot too old: upgrade!
>
>  The operating system has halted.
>  Please press any key to reboot
>
>  After this I thought that maybe bsd.rd needs some
>  other files which it expects to be usually found in
>  /boot.
>  So I downloaded cd43.iso, extracted its contents to
>  /boot and retried. Still the same problem.
>  Following to that I also tried with install43.iso,
>  same procedure, but the problem remains.
>
>  The Grub menu entry I used for the 2nd and 3rd try:
>  root (hd0,3)
>  kernel --openbsd=openbsd /boot/4.3/i386/bsd.rd
>
>  In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0]
>  ... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD,
>  ...
>
>  Does this probably mean that the install method with
>  bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD
>  system existing on the harddisk?
>
>  If that's correct, is there any other suitable
>  installation method using a install-image on a
>  harddisk?
>
>  Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the
>  following:
>  I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally
>  different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install
>  method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an
>  USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook.
>  There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary
>  partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again,
>  edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd.
>
>  I already searched the web for other installing
>  methods suitable for my case and searched further if
>  there's a possibility of directly booting .iso images
>  using Grub but couldn't find anything useful.
>
>  Suggestions most welcome
>
>  Thanks,
>  ~fc
>
>
>  [0] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd

Re: rtorrent ram issue (using 4.2)

[Lord Sporkton]

2008/5/25 Jesus Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all, I'm using OpenBSD 4.2.
>
> I would like to make my OpenBSD box to download torrents and to add new
> torrents by ssh so I installed rtorrent.
>
> I experienced a really huge memory use of the program to hash (check I
> think) the actual downloads. I know this client has to do the checks but
> I would like to "jail" the program on a 64 MB environment (my box have 1
> GB RAM) to make able to the machine to run a lot of things, but I can't
> stop the hashes eat all my RAM, even setting ulimit -m and the
> .rtorrent.rc max_memory_usage variable to 64M and less, but rtorrent
> still makes my computer to allocate everything I'm using into swap an
> HD, really really slow.
>
> I know that many simultaneous downloads using a "bittorrent-like" client
> may cause system problems but I'm only doing 5 downloads.
>
> I have tested many different configs and always get problems, some times
> the client freezes (loose download time, because it's doing nothing for
> about 10 seconds every minute), some times I lost all the RAM and
> browsing the net, using xchat, compile programs and stuff like that
> becomes really slow.
>
> Anyone have found a good .rtorrent.rc configuration to make
> freeze/ram-use dissapear?
>
> Thanks for your time.  -Jesus
>
>

I have been using rtorrent with no ram max and it never took over 30
megs, that was running up to 30 torrents at a time,

how many torrents are you running at one time?
have you set any limits on IO? perhaps IO is backing up into the ram?
i know my windows client does that.

-- 
-Lawrence

rtorrent ram issue (using 4.2)

[Jesus Sanchez]

Hi all, I'm using OpenBSD 4.2.

I would like to make my OpenBSD box to download torrents and to add new
torrents by ssh so I installed rtorrent.

I experienced a really huge memory use of the program to hash (check I
think) the actual downloads. I know this client has to do the checks but
I would like to "jail" the program on a 64 MB environment (my box have 1
GB RAM) to make able to the machine to run a lot of things, but I can't
stop the hashes eat all my RAM, even setting ulimit -m and the
.rtorrent.rc max_memory_usage variable to 64M and less, but rtorrent
still makes my computer to allocate everything I'm using into swap an
HD, really really slow.

I know that many simultaneous downloads using a "bittorrent-like" client
may cause system problems but I'm only doing 5 downloads.

I have tested many different configs and always get problems, some times
the client freezes (loose download time, because it's doing nothing for
about 10 seconds every minute), some times I lost all the RAM and
browsing the net, using xchat, compile programs and stuff like that
becomes really slow.

Anyone have found a good .rtorrent.rc configuration to make
freeze/ram-use dissapear?

Thanks for your time.  -Jesus

Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd

[F. Caulier]

Hello

I'm currently trying to install OpenBSD-4.3 on my
subnotebook (JVC MP-XP3), the problem is that it
doesn't have any CD-ROM and/or floppy drive and it
isn't capable of booting using PXE nor booting from
USB-HDD. (Already checked that)

I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to
install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I
downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on
a small separate partition in a directory named /boot,
modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that.

It didn't work out, here's what I get:
panic: /boot too old: upgrade!

The operating system has halted.
Please press any key to reboot

After this I thought that maybe bsd.rd needs some
other files which it expects to be usually found in
/boot. 
So I downloaded cd43.iso, extracted its contents to
/boot and retried. Still the same problem.
Following to that I also tried with install43.iso,
same procedure, but the problem remains.

The Grub menu entry I used for the 2nd and 3rd try:
root (hd0,3)
kernel --openbsd=openbsd /boot/4.3/i386/bsd.rd

In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0]
... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD,
...

Does this probably mean that the install method with
bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD
system existing on the harddisk?

If that's correct, is there any other suitable
installation method using a install-image on a
harddisk?

Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the
following:
I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally
different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install
method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an
USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook.
There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary
partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again,
edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd.

I already searched the web for other installing
methods suitable for my case and searched further if
there's a possibility of directly booting .iso images
using Grub but couldn't find anything useful.

Suggestions most welcome

Thanks,
~fc


[0] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd

smtp-vilter -- cmd read returned 0, expecting 5

[Vijay Sankar]

Good day,

The smtp-vilter on my mail exchanger works very nicely except that 
occassionally I see the following message:

May 25 17:40:05 mail01 sm-mta[4943]: n5QWfdTZ004454: 
milter_sys_read(smtp-vilter): cmd read returned 0, expecting 5
May 25 17:40:05 mail01 sm-mta[4943]: n5QWfdTZ004454: Milter (smtp-vilter): to 
error state
May 25 17:40:05 mail01 sm-mta[4943]: n5QWfdTZ004454: Milter: data, reject=451 
4.3.2 Please try again later
May 25 17:40:05 mail01 sm-mta[4943]: n5QWfdTZ004454: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
delay=00:00:01, pri=42414, stat=Please try again later
May 25 17:40:06 mail01 smtp-vilter[4979]: dropped privileges, running as 
539:539

There doesn't seem to be a pattern even though most of the time the sender is 
using a Blackberry or a Pager.

What could this be due to and what makes smtp-vilter return 0 instead of 5? 
When the sending mail server tries later, the message gets delivered. Is this 
due to a misconfiguration on my part? I have smtp-vilter and clamd running as 
539:539. Can that cause this problem?

Please let me know if you know the answer to this.

Thanks very much in advance,

Vijay

-- 
Vijay Sankar, M.Eng., P.Eng.
ForeTell Technologies Limited
59 Flamingo Avenue, Winnipeg, MB Canada R3J 0X6
Phone: +1 204 885 9535, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: E450 stuff

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 08:03:53AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> Johan SANCHEZ wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 May 2008 11:08:32 -0400
> > Christopher Sean Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 

[ snip ]

> > 
> > Can i ask what is the problem you are experiencing with this ?
> > what version of OBP are you using and what OBSD version did you
> > tried ?
> > 
> > Johan
> > 
> 
> I do believe you will find OpenBSD will Just Work, and bsd.mp
> should spin up all four processors.
> I seem to recall there was some work done relatively recently on
> the sensors on an E450, and one usually has to be fully functional
> on a system before you worry much about the sensors. :)
> 
> HOWEVER...  IF you have only worked with PCs, Sun systems are
> different.  Also, the average E450 has sucked a lot of dust through
> its CDROM drive, and functional SCSI CDROM drives are relatively
> rare in most people's spare parts pile.  Fortunately, Suns offer a
> lot of other options for bootstrapping the system, but none of the
> rest are something the average PC user has ever done before.
> 
> But man, E450s are big.  But I'm sure you have noticed that. :)
> 
> Nick.
> 

Thanks,

My first crack at this box was probably 2 years ago, perhaps more. I
do know that the sparc64 MP code was reasonably new in NetBSD at the
time. I didn't really try to hard but OpenBSD (unknown version)
wouldn't boot and NetBSD (2.0, 2.1, 3.0) would all stall at various
places in the boot process. Since I couldn't get Stop-A to bring the
machine back to the OpenBoot prompt reliably I figured that it was a
bad mainboard. I requested another and received one with 2 300MHz
UltraSparc II processors. That's where I went wrong. I installed one
of the 400MHz processors onto the "new" mainboard and attempted to
boot and got nowhere.

I don't claim to be very versed in Sun hardware. If I can make it boot
off of the CD-ROM then I can generally make it work. I can netboot
Intel Machines with PXE ok. I hate floppy drives...

On the advice of a friend who knows Sun Hardware much better than I I
put the 2 300MHZ CPU's back on the second mainboard and the machine is
happily installing NetBSD 4.0 right now. It's still not recognizing
all the disk drives that I have in it but at least it installs now.

Once I can get it to install I'm happy because I don't like giving
away junk. Residential electricity in New England is currently $0.16 /
kWh which means that this machine would probably cost more than $30.00
/ month to run 24/7. It will never be a main line production machine
for me but after successfully installing NetBSD and OpenBSD on it I
can report that it works...

-- Chris

-- 
-- 
Chris Hilton chilton-at-vindaloo-dot-com

"All I was doing was trying to get home from work!"
 -- Rosa Parks

How to know whether I have install this file or avoid collision

[Dan Liu]

pkg_add php5-ldap
Collision: the following files already exist
/usr/local/include/sasl/hmac-md5.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/md5.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/md5global.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/prop.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/saslplug.h (same md5)
/usr/local/include/sasl/saslutil.h (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/libsasl2.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/libsasl2.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2.22 (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libanonymous.so.2.22 (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libcrammd5.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libcrammd5.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libdigestmd5.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libdigestmd5.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libgssapiv2.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libgssapiv2.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libntlm.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libntlm.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libotp.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libotp.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libplain.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libplain.la (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libsasldb.a (same md5)
/usr/local/lib/sasl2/libsasldb.la (same md5)
/usr/local/man/cat8/saslauthd.0 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_authorize_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_auxprop.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_auxprop_getctx.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_auxprop_request.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_callbacks.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_canon_user_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_chalprompt_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_checkapop.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_checkpass.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_client_init.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_client_new.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_client_start.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_client_step.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_decode.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_dispose.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_done.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_encode.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_encodev.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_errdetail.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_errors.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_errstring.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getconfpath_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getopt_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getpath_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getprop.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getrealm_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getsecret_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_getsimple_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_global_listmech.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_idle.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_listmech.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_log_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_init.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_new.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_start.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_step.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_userdb_checkpass_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_server_userdb_setpass_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_setpass.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_setprop.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_user_exists.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man3/sasl_verifyfile_t.3 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man8/pluginviewer.8 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man8/sasldblistusers2.8 (same md5)
/usr/local/man/man8/saslpasswd2.8 (same md5)
/usr/local/sbin/pluginviewer (same md5)
/usr/local/sbin/saslauthd (same md5)
/usr/local/sbin/sasldblistusers2 (same md5)
/usr/local/sbin/saslpasswd2 (same md5)
/usr/local/sbin/testsaslauthd (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/advanced.html (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/appconvert.html (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/components.html (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/draft-burdis-cat-srp-sasl-xx.txt (same
md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/draft-ietf-sasl-anon-xx.txt (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/draft-ietf-sasl-crammd5-xx.txt (same md5)
/usr/local/share/doc/sasl2/draft-ietf-sasl-gssapi-xx.txt (same md5)
/usr/local/share/

Re: [OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[Chris Kuethe]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, elflord woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks everyone
>
> i noticed on this page (http://openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless) that my
> card(ipw) can not be used as AP(access point)
> Does this matter ?

if you only want them to talk to eachother, there's always ad-hoc mode.


-- 
GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?

Re: gnats

[Unix Fan]

Pieter Verberne wrote:

> Sorry for being offtopic: What does -f mean? (I see those 'options' more

> often in mails).



It's his signature, his name is frantisek, thus he signs his messages

using the first letter of his name.. not unusual, but not very identifying..



I sign my messages too.. ;-)







-Nix Fan.

Re: gnats

[Nick Holland]

frantisek holop wrote:
> hi there,
> 
> recently i have sent bug report using sendbug
> and did not get a gnats confirmation.
> 
> it was from a 4.2-current machine, older one
> obviously, and i was wondering if there is
> some incompatibility between the old and new
> sendbug...
> 
> i thought maybe the mail didn't get through
> for some reason, but i can't find it on
> http://www.openbsd.org/query-pr.html
> either...
> 
> -f

Unfortunately (for gnats), many ISPs block outbound port 25
traffic to anything other than their mail servers.  Even if
yours doesn't block port 25, I'm pretty sure the target
machine uses greylisting, so you have to leave the machine
you used sendbug on up long enough to clear the greylisting.

/var/log/maillog will tell the story...

IF you have your own mail server, I've had some luck killing
sendmail on the local machine, then doing an ssh port
forwarding of port 25 to your mail server.  Something like
this might work for you (as root, since you are messing with
a priv. port)
  ssh -f -N -L 25:localhost:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(it might not, too.  Something like that worked for me, but
I didn't jot down exactly what I did, so that might not be
it.  If this DOES work for you, let me know so I can put it
in my "notes" (i.e., the FAQ :) properly)

Don't forget to kill that ssh session and restart sendmail
to bring the system back up to proper operation when done!

Nick.

Re: [OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[elflord woods]

Thanks everyone

i noticed on this page (http://openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless) that my
card(ipw) can not be used as AP(access point)
Does this matter ?

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Douglas" == Douglas A Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Douglas> Of course, without an actual here's-my-problem issue to discuss, its
Douglas> philosophical and hypothetical which allows us to argue over the
Douglas> periphery instead of the core issue.

Douglas> Is there any scenario where one could not easily ship a product that
Douglas> uses OpenBSD with its perl interpreter intact?

How many times do we have to say "Perl's license is Artistic 2.0 which
is roughly as broad (if not even a tiny bit broader) than BSD's own?"

Are you not paying attention in the thread to the three prior times
I (and others) have already said this?

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

Re: [OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[Marc Balmer]

* elflord woods wrote:

> I have two laptops running linux and openbsd, both with a working
> wireless card.
> 
> I am wondering if i can connect these two computers directly and
> communicate between each other wirelessly
> 
> I'm a network nut and have no idea if this is possible.
> Thanks

this is possible and it is easy.  give both machines a (different)
IP address within the same net.  which parts of the IP addresses
are consider "the net" depends on the netmask.  for simplicity,
choose the following values, e.g.:

netmask 255.255.255.0 on both machines
broadcast address 192.168.1.255 on both machines

host A

IP address 192.168.1.1

host B

IP address 192.168.1.2

you configure the network using the ifconfig command (enter it
without any options to see the list of available interfaces).

Once setup, you ping the other host using these (private) IP
addresses.

Good luck, there is a lot information in the man pages and in the
FAQ, go read it if you run into trouble.

Re: [OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[Lars Noodén]

See the "Book of PF" pp 36-38 or online the "Firewalling with OpenBSD's
PF packet filter"I've not had time to try setting up a wireless but
have some cards waiting for when (if) I do ...

-Lars

Re: [OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[Marten Vijn]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 16:36 +0200, elflord woods wrote:
> hi all
> 
> I have two laptops running linux and openbsd, both with a working
> wireless card.
> 
> I am wondering if i can connect these two computers directly and
> communicate between each other wirelessly
> 
> I'm a network nut and have no idea if this is possible.

you can

http://openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless

Marten


> Thanks
> 
-- 

Marten Vijn
Koop mijn huis: http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/huis
http://martenvijn.nl
http://wifisoft.org
http://opencommunitycamp.org

[OT] Can i connect two box directly using wireless cards ?

[elflord woods]

hi all

I have two laptops running linux and openbsd, both with a working
wireless card.

I am wondering if i can connect these two computers directly and
communicate between each other wirelessly

I'm a network nut and have no idea if this is possible.
Thanks

Re: cannot link to ftp

[Lars Noodén]

Dan Liu wrote:
> I just use the command
> #ftp ftp://ftp.openbsd.org
...
> 421 Timeout...

I have gotten that from a number of mirror sites the last few weeks.
Some of it is the fault of my 'ISP' and I'm getting the impression that
the rest is not specific to OpenBSD sites.

HTTP is much worse for file transfer.  Try rsync or also AFS,
e.g.
export PKG_PATH=/afs/stacken.kth.se/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/packages/i386/

Only that one seems to be available (to me) just right now.

-Lars

Re: gnats

[Pieter Verberne]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:22:53PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
> [content]
> -f
Sorry for being offtopic: What does -f mean? (I see those 'options' more
often in mails).

U of A (and associated OpenBSD machines) going offline for up to 4 hours or so.

[Bob Beck]

We're having some major electrical work done in our data centre.
While I have UPS, the nature of the work means I don't have air conditioning ;)

The result is some of the OpenBSD sites (ftp, www, anoncvs, etc.)
may be unavailable for much of this morning - potentially into the afternoon.

-Bob

Re: cannot link to ftp

[Dan Liu]

I just use the command
#ftp ftp://ftp.openbsd.org

Some welcome message comes,after that the error comes.
421 Timeout.
ftp: Login failed.
ftp: No control connection for command.
ftp: Login failed.
ftp: No control connection for command.
ftp: Can't connect or login to host 'ftp.openbsd.org'

With your help.I found I can simply use the http way.
And all the packages are in the pub/OpenBSD/4.3/packages/i386/
Thanks elflord and Marc Balmer.

Re: cannot link to ftp

[Marc Balmer]

* Dan Liu wrote:
> export PKG_PATH=ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/i386/

The correct path on the server would be pub/OpenBSD/4.3/packages/i386/

> pkg_add -i screen
> Error from ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/i386/:
> ftp: Login failed.
> ftp: No control connection for command.
> ftp: Login failed.
> ftp: No control connection for command.
> ftp: Can't connect or login to host 'obsd.cec.mtu.edu'
> No packages available in the PKG_PATH
> Can't resolve screen
> 
> I can not link to any ftp site listed on the openBSD site.
> The document suggest us to use the binary file not the source file.
> I even can not link them use firefox or gftp.

I can connect to obsd.cec.mtu.edu from Switzerland.  So the problem
seems to be on your side.

cannot link to ftp

[Dan Liu]

export PKG_PATH=ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/i386/
pkg_add -i screen
Error from ftp://obsd.cec.mtu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.3/i386/:
ftp: Login failed.
ftp: No control connection for command.
ftp: Login failed.
ftp: No control connection for command.
ftp: Can't connect or login to host 'obsd.cec.mtu.edu'
No packages available in the PKG_PATH
Can't resolve screen

I can not link to any ftp site listed on the openBSD site.
The document suggest us to use the binary file not the source file.
I even can not link them use firefox or gftp.

Re: bluetooth keyboard on -current

[John Shirley]

I have now got this working, just wanted to post the solution here for
people searching the archives:

btdevctl does not prompt the user to enter the pin on the keyboard in order
to pair the device when attached, it just returns as if it were successful.

However, if you run bthcid -f (that is, in the foreground), and watch the
messages, as you try to attach the keyboard you can see when the device is
queried and it is the correct
time to enter the pin code.  After you hit return, bthcid confirms the code
and the keyboard works perfectly.

Is this desired behaviour for btdevctl, i believe that from an ease of use
perspective that this tool should prompt for the pin to be entered at the
appropriate time.

What do the dev's think?  If it's a wanted feature i'm happy to knock up a
diff..

John.

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM, John Alan Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi misc@,
>
> An Apple Wireless Keyboard has come into my possession, and i'm trying to
> get it working on -current.
>
> I rebuilt the kernel/userland based on cvs update on Friday with all the
> bluetooth devices enabled.
>
> I also installed bluetooth-tools and bluetooth-libs ports.
>
> Initially my bt dongle was claimed by aue*, so i desabled this using config
> -e and rebooted; it is correctly claimed by ubt*.
>
> Below are the steps i've taken to configure the keyboard, followed by a
> dmesg.
>
> I am able to query ubt0 and get the address of the keyboard, generate the
> pin to pair with it, and send sdp messages.
> However I'm never prompted to enter the pin on the keyboard, i.e. when i
> btdevctl it, which i understood was necessary, and when i issue the final
> command to attach,
> the btkbd is attached to bthidev0 and ubt0, then to wskbd, but ultimately
> bthidev0 is disconnecting, and the keyboard doesn't work...
>
> I've tried google, archives, and perusing the source of all the bt drivers
> but can't figure out why it's disconnecting,
> any ideas/advice/solutions would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Shirley.
>
> #sdpd
> #pgrep sdpd
> => 17600
>
> #bthcid
> #pgrep bthcid
> =>15662
>
> #btconfig ubt0 up pscan switch class 0x02010c
> #btconfig -v
> =>ubt0: bdaddr 00:0a:3a:7c:9f:86 flags=3
>num_cmd = 1
>num_acl = 5, acl_mtu = 1017
>num_sco = 0, sco_mtu = 64
>
> #btconfig ubt0 inquiry
> =>Device Discovery from device: ubt0  1 response
>  1: bdaddr 00:1e:52:6e:12:15
>   : name "Apple Wireless Keyboard"
>   : class: [0x002540] Peripheral Keyboard 
>   : page scan rep mode 0x01
>   : clock offset 32614
>
> #btpin -d ubt0 -a 00:1e:52:6e:12:15 -r
> =>PIN: 2339
>
> #btdevctl -a 00:1e:52:6e:12:15 -d ubt0 -s hid -qv
> =>Performing SDP query for service 'HID'..
>  local bdaddr: 00:0a:3a:7c:9f:86
>  remote bdaddr: 00:1e:52:6e:12:15
>  link mode: encrypt
>  device type: HID
>  control psm: 0x0011
>  interrupt psm: 0x0013
>  Collection page=Generic_Desktop usage=Keyboard
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftControl
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftShift
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftAlt Variable,
> logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_Left_GUI
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightControl
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightShift
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightAlt
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_Right_GUI
> Variable, logical range 0..1
>Input id=1 size=8 count=1 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
> 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Num_Lock Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Caps_Lock Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Scroll_Lock Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Compose Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Kana Variable, logical range
> 0..1
>   Output id=1 size=3 count=1 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
> 0..1
>Input id=1 size=8 count=6 page=Keyboard usage=No_Event, logical range
> 0..255
>  End collection
>  Collection page=Consumer usage=Consumer_Control
>  Collection page=Generic_Desktop usage=Keyboard
>Input id=71 size=8 count=1 page=0x0006 usage=0x0020 Variable, logical
> range 0..255
>  End collection
>  End collection
>Input id=17 size=1 count=3 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
> 0..1
>  Collection page=Consumer usage=Consumer_Control
>Input id=17 size=1 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Eject Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>Input id=17 size=0 count=1 page=0x00ff usage=0x0003 Variable, logical
> range 0..1
>Input id=17 siz

Re: openbsd multiboot

[Jonathan Thornburg]

Hi,

In message ,
I wrote
| Basically I keep a single fdisk partition containing the entire disk,
| but two sets of OpenBSD root, usr, and now var partitions inside that,
| both sharing /home and /data (where I keep my user files):
|   wd0a   rootfstab mounts root, usr, var, home, data
|   wd0b   swap
|   wd0c   entire disk
|   wd0d   root2   fstab mounts root2, usr2, var2, home, data
|   wd0e   var
|   wd0f   var2
|   wd0g   usr
|   wd0h   usr2
|   wd0j   home
|   wd0k   data
| 
| I use the standard OpenBSD bootloader; typing "boot wd0a:/bsd"
| (or just doing nothing and waiting for the 5 second default timeout)
| boots the wd0[aeg] set of partitions, while "boot wd0d:/bsd" boots
| the wd0[dfh] partitions.


On Sun, 25 May 2008, Leo Baltus wrote:
> This is still pretty obtrusive, i.e. making a backup, then
In practice, the backup takes an hour or two once every 6 months
(when the new OpenBSD comes out), which I don't find too much of a
burden.


> overwrite filesystems you normally use,

The backup (copy a,e,g to d,f,h) doesn't overwrite filesystems I
"normally use"; it overwrites a *backup* set of filesystems which
I typically haven't even mounted for some months.  That is, my wd0a
/etc/fstab mounts *only* the a,e,g,j,k partitions, so when booting
from wd0a, the d,f,h partitions are not mounted.  Similarly, my wd0d
/etc/fstab doesn't mount the a,e,g partitions.  (The idea is that
having the "other" set of partitions unmounted keeps them safe from
a great many rm-in-the-wrong-directory type sysadmin blunders.)


> hoping the backup is a copy
> you can rely on.

This is a very important point.  I completely agree, backups are
useless if I can't rely on them.  So I test them as best I can
before proceeding with an upgrade/reinstall on the a,e,g partitions.
For example, for my 4.2-stable --> 4.3-release transition, my sequence
was:
1. copy 4.2-stable a,e,g --> d,f,h, run installboot on d
2. reboot from d,f,h and use laptop normally for 4 or 5 days to make
   sure that the d,f,h 4.2-stable works normally
3. fresh install of 4.3-release on a,e,g
4. reboot from a,e,g 4.3-release, work through my usual post-install
   checklist of config file edits, packages, one or two ports, etc etc
5. use laptop normally running a,e,g 4.3-release; track down & fix any
   remaining glitches that come up (I might hand-mount d,f,h read-only
   for a while, just to have them handy for glitch-fixing)

After step 2 I don't have to just "hope" the d,f,h backup is a copy I
can rely on.  Rather, at that point I've been using the d,f,h partitions
for all my day-to-day work for 4 or 5 days, so I'm pretty confident that
they're ok.  (If they didn't work ok, then I'd want to fix the problems
before proceeding.)  Of course that "testing time" can be adjusted to
taste; it's probably more usefully measured in what-tasks-I've-done
rather than wall-clock-days.

  
> This would all be unnecessary if the bootloader could be informed that
> it should boot from wd0d:/bsd from now on, so you could leave wd0a: et.
> all unharmed. Is there really no way to do that, other than by typing it
> on the boot prompt?
> 
> Alternatively, is there a way to safely switch labels in the
> labeleditor, so that wd0a would become wd0d and vice versa?


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   School of Mathematics, U of Southampton, England
   "Space travel is utter bilge" -- common misquote of UK Astronomer Royal
Richard Woolley's remarks of 1956
   "All this writing about space travel is utter bilge.  To go to the
moon would cost as much as a major war." -- what he actually said

gnats

[frantisek holop]

hi there,

recently i have sent bug report using sendbug
and did not get a gnats confirmation.

it was from a 4.2-current machine, older one
obviously, and i was wondering if there is
some incompatibility between the old and new
sendbug...

i thought maybe the mail didn't get through
for some reason, but i can't find it on
http://www.openbsd.org/query-pr.html
either...

-f
-- 
in hell, you can't send people to hell...

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

[Henning Brauer]

* comfooc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-05-24 11:29]:
> What about python? I think that it's license is better (but i might be wrong).

it
is
not in
base
and the people
in
charge don't
like
it
anyway

-- 
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Re: timezone anomalies

[frantisek holop]

hmm, on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:56:22PM -0400, Woodchuck said that
> Set your camera to UTC and be happy.

and have rubbish exif info in every picture?  no thanks.
at least that is OS independent and the only correct data
no matter what.

this is like saying, set your watch to UTC and when
looking at the time, do the math yourself...

what i am trying to say is, that at least for me it doesn't
make sense by default to apply TZ to files on the disk
(apart perhaps from the newly created ones).

but that's just me, perhaps i'll just set the bios to my
TZ and point /etc/localtime to GMT and turn off ntpd
i prefer my file dates untouched--TZ agnostic, and i hate this
timezone business altogether.

> Among your options, you forgot the whole set of variations where
> the BIOS does daylight/summer time corrections.  Invariably, the
> BIOS is set up for general US rules, and wrong ones at that.

with nptd -s the bios time doesnt matter at all anymore.

-f
-- 
light doesn't emit energy; it emits little dark eaters

Re: openbsd multiboot

[Leo Baltus]

Op 23/05/2008 om 15:57:52 +0100, schreef Jonathan Thornburg :
> > I would like to have more than one openbsd root filesystem on my  
> > hardrive. Could somebody please explain how to go about this?
> [[...]]
> > Using openbsd I could use multiple bios-partitions each having an a: label 
> > but how do I tel the bootloader to use a specific partition?
> 
> I have kept two copies of OpenBSD on my laptop for a long time (going
> back to 2.8, I think).  I've described my scheme in this list several
> times, eg .

I like it.

> Basically I keep a single fdisk partition containing the entire disk,
> but two sets of OpenBSD root, usr, and now var partitions inside that,
> both sharing /home and /data (where I keep my user files):
>   wd0a   rootfstab mounts root, usr, var, home, data
>   wd0b   swap
>   wd0c   entire disk
>   wd0d   root2   fstab mounts root2, usr2, var2, home, data
>   wd0e   var
>   wd0f   var2
>   wd0g   usr
>   wd0h   usr2
>   wd0j   home
>   wd0k   data
> 
> I use the standard OpenBSD bootloader; typing "boot wd0a:/bsd"
> (or just doing nothing and waiting for the 5 second default timeout)
> boots the wd0[aeg] set of partitions, while "boot wd0d:/bsd" boots
> the wd0[dfh] partitions.
> 
> I normally boot & run from the wd0[aeg] partitions; currently these
> contain OpenBSD 4.3-release, while wd0[dfh] contain 4.2-stable.  When
> I do an OS upgrade or reinstall, I only do one of the two sets of
> partitions, leaving the other unchanged as a backup.  For example,
> prior to a few weeks ago, both partition sets contained 4.2-stable;
> when I was ready to install 4.3-release I first copied (dump|restore
> and then running installboot on the wd0d /boot) the wd0[aeg] partitions
> to the wd0[dfh] partitions, and verified that I could boot & run
> normally from the wd0[dfh] partitions.  (In fact, as a test I ran
> from them for 5 days or so before finally doing the 4.3-release
> install.)  This way if anything had gone wrong with the 4.3-release
> install (nothing did), I could have aborted and rebooted from the
> wd0[dfh] ones and (still) had a working computer.

This is still pretty obtrusive, i.e. making a backup, then
overwrite filesystems you normally use, hoping the backup is a copy
you can rely on.

This would all be unnecessary if the bootloader could be informed that
it should boot from wd0d:/bsd from now on, so you could leave wd0a: et.
all unharmed. Is there really no way to do that, other than by typing it
on the boot prompt?

Alternatively, is there a way to safely switch labels in the
labeleditor, so that wd0a would become wd0d and vice versa?

-- 
Leo Baltus

Re: OpenBSD and "VIA VT6105M RhineIII"

[Arno Hechenberger]

hello wim,

thanks for your intervention.

the problem is that all WRAP boards worked very well.

now I have installed a pcengines ALIX board (same chipset and design as
soekris) with OpenBSD 4.3. everything is working fine just to that point when
configuring isakmpd. to eliminte configuration failures I took the
isakmpd.conf and the few neccessary files from a IPSec working WRAP system and
copied them to the new ALIX with the VIA chipset.

this configuration now does not establish a tunnel, so I traced the IKE
traffic and discovered a difference in the IKE communication which is probably
responsible for the failure that phase II of IKE does not complete and
therefore no IPSec security association is generated.

greetings from austria
 arno hechenberger
 citydata



trace: new ALIX machine with vr interfaces

No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
  1 0.00194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  2 0.058193194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  3 0.150492194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  4 0.208460194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  5 0.304038194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  6 0.358672194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  7 0.437001194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP   Quick
Mode
  8 0.469804194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  9 0.483476194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP   Quick
Mode
 10 0.494387194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP   Quick
Mode




trace: old WRAP machine with sis interfaces

No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
  1 0.00194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  2 0.055112194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  3 0.089738194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  4 0.135278194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  5 0.147892194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  6 0.199866194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP
Identity Protection (Main Mode)
  7 0.211054194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP   Quick
Mode
  8 0.285228194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ISAKMP   Quick
Mode
  9 0.286238194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ISAKMP   Quick
Mode
 10 26.826381   194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ESP  ESP
(SPI=0xfb95abfa)
 11 26.906322   194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ESP  ESP
(SPI=0x0f34b701)
 12 27.836780   194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ESP  ESP
(SPI=0xfb95abfa)
 13 27.876157   194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ESP  ESP
(SPI=0x0f34b701)
 14 28.840978   194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ESP  ESP
(SPI=0xfb95abfa)
 15 28.886188   194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ESP  ESP
(SPI=0x0f34b701)
 16 29.857408   194.208.37.21 194.208.33.217ESP  ESP
(SPI=0xfb95abfa)
 17 29.901540   194.208.33.217194.208.37.21 ESP  ESP
(SPI=0x0f34b701)









demesg:

OpenBSD 4.3 (GENERIC) #698: Wed Mar 12 11:07:05 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80
cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS ("AuthenticAMD" 586-class) 432
MHz
cpu0: FPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CFLUSH,MMX
real mem  = 133791744 (127MB)
avail mem = 121331712 (115MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80 mainbus0 at root bios0 at
mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/10/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfceb2 pcibios0 at
bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable.
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xe/0xa800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 1
function 0 "AMD Geode LX" rev 0x33 glxsb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 "AMD Geode
LX Crypto" rev 0x00: RNG AES vr0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "VIA VT6105M
RhineIII" rev 0x96: irq 10, address 00:0d:b9:14:09:a0 ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1:
Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0034
vr1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "VIA VT6105M RhineIII" rev 0x96: irq 11, address
00:0d:b9:14:09:a1
ukphy1 at vr1 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI
0x004063, model 0x0034
vr2 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "VIA VT6105M RhineIII" rev 0x96: irq 12, address
00:0d:b9:14:09:a2
uk

Re: Intel D201GLY2 and OpenBSD 4.3

[Stuart Henderson]

On 2008-05-25, Sergey Aikinkulov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After upgrade to OpenBSD 4.3 from 4.2 my Intel D201GLY2 based gateway
> go to reboot on kernel initializing. Intel D201GLY2 bios was upgrated
> to latest but problem was not fixed.
>
> Any ideas?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#getdmesg

Re: E450 stuff

[Johan SANCHEZ]

On Sat, 24 May 2008 08:03:53 -0400
Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Johan SANCHEZ wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 May 2008 11:08:32 -0400
> > Christopher Sean Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On May 23, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I inherited an E450 from my old job. It booted Solaris just fine but  
> >> > I was never able to get any of (Free|Net|Open)BSD to install on it.  
> >> > I feel that this is probably more do to me than anything else. As  
> >> > time has passed it's become pretty obvious between the problems with  
> >> > the install and the cost for power to run, my chances of running  
> >> > this machine in my environment are NULL. I'd like to make just one  
> >> > more attempt at getting the machine running. But ultimately I will  
> >> > have it carted away.
> >> >
> >> > This is what I have:
> >> >
> >> > Sun E450
> >> >
> >> >  4 x 400 MHz UltraSparc II processors (Sun P/N 501-5446)
> >> >  4 x DC power regulator boards (Sun P/N 300-1322)
> >> >  4GB of RAM (16 x Sun P/N 501-4743)
> >> >
> >> > Spare E450 Mainboard
> >> >  2 x 300 MHz UltraSparc II processors (Sun P/N 501-4849)
> >> >  2 x DC power regulator boards (Sun P/N 300-1322)
> >> >  4GB of RAM (16 x Sun P/N 501-4743)
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to spend an hour today working on this to see if I can get  
> >> > a working install but even if I do the whole things going to have to  
> >> > go away. If anyone is interested in any of this equipment please  
> >> > feel free to email or xmpp me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> >
> > 
> > Can i ask what is the problem you are experiencing with this ?
> > what version of OBP are you using and what OBSD version did you
> > tried ?
> > 
> > Johan
> > 
> 
> I do believe you will find OpenBSD will Just Work, and bsd.mp
> should spin up all four processors.
> I seem to recall there was some work done relatively recently on
> the sensors on an E450, and one usually has to be fully functional
> on a system before you worry much about the sensors. :)
> 
> HOWEVER...  IF you have only worked with PCs, Sun systems are
> different.  Also, the average E450 has sucked a lot of dust through
> its CDROM drive, and functional SCSI CDROM drives are relatively
> rare in most people's spare parts pile.  Fortunately, Suns offer a
> lot of other options for bootstrapping the system, but none of the
> rest are something the average PC user has ever done before.
> 
> But man, E450s are big.  But I'm sure you have noticed that. :)

Some U80 and E450 may have unusual reaction when used in this
configuration 4*cpu and 4gb of memory .
Just have to check OBP version DC DC state also the PN on the
system board could be helpful ...
You can also keep only the first cpu  in the box and see the
results I personnally owned an E3500 running an 4.x few  monthes
ago ...
hth

Johan SANCHEZ

http://www.chatou-informatic.com

Re: SPARC64-V support

[Lars Noodén]

Mark Kettenis wrote:
> As of yesterday, OpenBSD/sparc64 has full support for Fujitsu's
> SPARC64-V processor.  As far as I know OpenBSD is the first free
> operating system that supports this processor...

Congrats!  That is excellent news in many ways.

Regards,
-Lars

Re: OpenNTPD configuration?

[Paul de Weerd]

This confirms that your problem is in the ntpd configuration, as
already pointed out by Julien Cabillot. OpenNTPD does not act as an
NTP-server by default. It even says so in the config file :

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:03:40AM -0700, Fred Snurd wrote:
| # Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default)
| #listen on *

What you must do, is remove the # and optionally change the * into
192.168.0.4. Read the ntpd.conf(5) manpage for more details on how to
configure OpenBTPD.

Cheers,

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

-- 
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+++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-]
 http://www.weirdnet.nl/ 

Re: OpenNTPD configuration?

[Jordi Espasa Clofent]

Sure!  I've attached a cheap USB GPS unit.  The idea came from a thread back in 
October:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=configuring+ntpd+to+use+GPS&q=b

server $ cat rc.conf.local
nmeaattach_flags='/dev/cuaU0'
ntpd_flags='-v'
server $ cat ntpd.conf
# $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.8 2007/07/13 09:05:52 henning Exp $
# sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5)

# Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default)
#listen on *

# sync to a single server
#server ntp.example.org

# use a random selection of 8 public stratum 2 servers
# see http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers
#servers pool.ntp.org

sensor *
$ 


?Why do you use a USB GPS unit? Simply curiosity.

?Has do you tried with a 'classic' ntp servers pool? ?Do you get the 
same error in clients?


Another useful outputs:

* launch the OpenNTPd server with -d flag (not daemonize, log on stderr)
* launch a 'tcpdump -i  -n -vvv port 123' in clients

--
Thanks,
Jordi Espasa Clofent

Re: OpenNTPD configuration?

[Fred Snurd]

Jordi Espasa Clofent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write:
?Can you attach some log/info from _server_?
Sure!  I've attached a cheap USB GPS unit.  The idea came from a thread back in 
October:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2&r=1&s=configuring+ntpd+to+use+GPS&q=b

server $ cat rc.conf.local
nmeaattach_flags='/dev/cuaU0'
ntpd_flags='-v'
server $ cat ntpd.conf
# $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.8 2007/07/13 09:05:52 henning Exp $
# sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5)

# Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default)
#listen on *

# sync to a single server
#server ntp.example.org

# use a random selection of 8 public stratum 2 servers
# see http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers
#servers pool.ntp.org

sensor *
$ 

Re: OpenNTPD configuration?

[Julien Cabillot]

Le Sat, 24 May 2008 22:41:36 -0700 (PDT),
Fred Snurd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a C)crit :

> I'm a bit confused by what I am seeing in the logfiles when compared
> to the information found in the manpages and FAQ.  I would appreciate
> if someone could provide some perspective.
>
> I've set up OpenNTPD on a 4.3-current server (192.168.0.4), and the
> time has finally reached synchronization as best I can tell:
>
> server $ sudo tail /var/log/daemon
> May 24 17:38:17 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by
> 12.518122 to 37.282963ppm May 24 18:06:18 server ntpd[32321]:
> adjusting clock frequency by -3.055956 to 34.227007ppm May 24
> 18:34:19 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by 1.532853 to
> 35.759861ppm May 24 19:02:20 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock
> frequency by -1.548559 to 34.211301ppm May 24 19:30:21 server
> ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by 27.436873 to 61.648175ppm
> May 24 19:58:22 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by
> -16.620842 to 45.027332ppm May 24 20:26:24 server ntpd[32321]:
> adjusting clock frequency by -21.159011 to 23.868321ppm May 24
> 20:54:25 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by -8.922065
> to 14.946257ppm May 24 21:22:26 server ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock
> frequency by 19.461742 to 34.407999ppm May 24 21:50:27 server
> ntpd[32321]: adjusting clock frequency by -14.422098 to 19.985901ppm
> server $
>
> I also have a 4.3-current client on the same subnet (192.168.0.6) &
> switch (no firewalls involved), and see "Connection refused"
> in /var/log/daemon on the client's side:
>
> client $ sudo tail /var/log/daemon
> May 24 17:12:11 client dhclient[273]: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1
> May 24 17:12:11 client dhclient[273]: bound to 192.168.0.6 -- renewal
> in 43200 seconds. May 24 21:11:00 client ntpd[16786]: ntp engine ready
> May 24 21:11:00 client ntpd[16786]: recvfrom 192.168.0.4: Connection
> refused May 24 21:11:01 client savecore: no core dump
> May 24 21:29:45 client ntpd[8992]: ntp engine ready
> May 24 21:29:45 client ntpd[8992]: recvfrom 192.168.0.4: Connection
> refused May 24 21:29:46 client savecore: no core dump
> May 24 22:24:27 client ntpd[8992]: 0 out of 1 peers valid
> May 24 22:24:27 client ntpd[8992]: bad peer 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)
> client $
>
> The client has the following contents for its configuration files:
>
> client $ cat /etc/rc.conf.local
> ntpd_flags="-v"
> client $ cat /etc/ntpd.conf
> # $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.8 2007/07/13 09:05:52 henning Exp $
> # sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5)
>
> # Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default)
> #listen on *
>
> # sync to a single server
> #server ntp.example.org
> server 192.168.0.4
>
> # use a random selection of 8 public stratum 2 servers
> # see http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers
> #servers pool.ntp.org
> client $
>
> I saw in the archives someone else having a similar error, but no
> definitive reply.  It appears that the server is sending out traffic
> correctly on port 123:
>
> server $ netstat -f inet -na
> Active Internet connections (including servers)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign Address
> (state) ip 0  0  *.*
> *.*17 Active Internet connections (including
> servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign
> Address(state) tcp0224  192.168.0.6.22
> 192.168.0.125.43307ESTABLISHED tcp0  0
> 192.168.0.6.48455  192.168.0.4.22 ESTABLISHED tcp
> 0  0  192.168.0.6.22 192.168.0.125.44198ESTABLISHED
> tcp0  0  127.0.0.1.587  *.*
> LISTEN tcp0  0  127.0.0.1.25
> *.*LISTEN tcp0  0
> *.22   *.*LISTEN tcp
> 0  0  *.37   *.*LISTEN
> tcp0  0  *.13   *.*
> LISTEN tcp0  0  *.113
> *.*LISTEN Active Internet connections (including
> servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign
> Address(state) udp0  0  127.0.0.1.512
> *.* udp0  0  192.168.0.6.32093  192.168.0.4.123
> udp0  0  *.514  *.* server $
>
> I know that it can take some time for the client to synchronize with
> an NTP server, but the "Connection refused" message has me wondering
> if I have missed something else in the configuration.  Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>

Do you have in your ntpd.conf :
listen on 192.168.0.4
?

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

[Denis Doroshenko]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 07:39:34PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote:
>> A final word.
>>
>> For all you backseat drivers: this is OpenBSD.
>>
>> Those who do the work get to call the shots.
>
> In reading the thread, I don't get the impression that anyone is
> second-guessing just that people thought it an interesting decision and
> couldn't find the relevant discussion in the archives to learn how that
> decision was made.

wow, really? the answers are pretty obvious, so all this makes me
wonder if the archives are some kind of substitute for a brain...

Re: Intel D201GLY2 and OpenBSD 4.3

[LÉVAI Dániel]

On Sunday 25 May 2008 05.28.41 Sergey Aikinkulov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After upgrade to OpenBSD 4.3 from 4.2 my Intel D201GLY2 based gateway
> go to reboot on kernel initializing. Intel D201GLY2 bios was upgrated
> to latest but problem was not fixed.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Just a confirm. Exactly the same here, with the same board.

This is what we are talking about:
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D201GLY2/index.htm

direct link to technical documentation:
http://download.intel.com/products/motherboard/D201GLY2/tps.pdf

Daniel

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Re: OpenNTPD configuration?

[Jordi Espasa Clofent]

Hi Fred,

Currently I've an old box with a OpenBSD 4.2 and OpenNTPd as a server 
working on. It serves the time for my complete network (a /23 range, 512 
servers) without any poblem. The clients are a lot FreeBSDs and some 
OpenBSDs and Debians.


OpenNTPd simply rocks. It's safe, reliable and easy to manage 
(congratulations to Henning and others).


According to symon, the old box is completely relaxed and all works fine 
in any client.


?Can you attach some log/info from _server_?

--
Thanks,
Jordi Espasa Clofent

bluetooth keyboard on -current

[John Shirley]

Hi misc@,

An Apple wireless keyboard has come into my possession, and i'm trying to
get it working on -current.

I rebuilt the kernel/userland based on cvs update on Friday with all the
bluetooth devices enabled.

I also installed bluetooth-tools and bluetooth-libs ports.

Initially my bt dongle was claimed by aue*, so i disabled this using config
-e and rebooted; it is correctly claimed by ubt*.

Below are the steps i've taken to configure the keyboard, followed by a
dmesg.

I am able to query ubt0 and get the address of the keyboard, generate the
pin to pair with it, and send sdp messages.
However I'm never prompted to enter the pin on the keyboard, i.e. when i
btdevctl it, which i understood was necessary, and when i issue the final
command to attach,
the btkbd is attached to bthidev0 and ubt0, then to wskbd, but ultimately
bthidev0 is disconnecting, and the keyboard doesn't work...

I've tried google, archives, and perusing the source of all the bt drivers
but can't figure out why it's disconnecting,
any ideas/advice/solutions would be appreciated.

Cheers,

John Shirley.

#sdpd
#pgrep sdpd
=> 17600

#bthcid
#pgrep bthcid
=>15662

#btconfig ubt0 up pscan switch class 0x02010c
#btconfig -vvv
=>ubt0: bdaddr 00:0a:3a:7c:9f:86 flags=3
   num_cmd = 1
   num_acl = 5, acl_mtu = 1017
   num_sco = 0, sco_mtu = 64
   HCI version: 2.0
   class: [0x00]
   name: "BCM2045B3 Initialization Configuration Record File w/o UHE"
   voice: [0x0060]
   Input Coding: Linear PCM [16-bit, pos 0], 2's complement
   Air Coding: CVSD
   pin: variable
   options: -iscan -pscan -auth -encrypt -switch -hold -sniff -park
-rssi
   ptype: [0xcc18] DM1 DH1 DM3 DH3 DM5 DH5 2-DH1 3-DH1 2-DH3 3-DH3 2-DH5
3-DH5
   page timeout: 20 ms

#btconfig ubt0 inquiry
=>Device Discovery from device: ubt0  1 response
 1: bdaddr 00:1e:52:6e:12:15
  : name "Apple Wireless Keyboard"
  : class: [0x002540] Peripheral Keyboard 
  : page scan rep mode 0x01
  : clock offset 32614

#btpin -d ubt0 -a 00:1e:52:6e:12:15 -r
=>PIN: 2339

#btdevctl -a 00:1e:52:6e:12:15 -d ubt0 -s hid -qv
=>Performing SDP query for service 'HID'..
 local bdaddr: 00:0a:3a:7c:9f:86
 remote bdaddr: 00:1e:52:6e:12:15
 link mode: encrypt
 device type: HID
 control psm: 0x0011
 interrupt psm: 0x0013
 Collection page=Generic_Desktop usage=Keyboard
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftControl
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftShift
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_LeftAlt Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_Left_GUI Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightControl
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightShift
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_RightAlt Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=1 count=1 page=Keyboard usage=Keyboard_Right_GUI
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=1 size=8 count=1 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
0..1
  Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Num_Lock Variable, logical
range 0..1
  Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Caps_Lock Variable, logical
range 0..1
  Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Scroll_Lock Variable, logical
range 0..1
  Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Compose Variable, logical range
0..1
  Output id=1 size=1 count=1 page=LEDs usage=Kana Variable, logical range
0..1
  Output id=1 size=3 count=1 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
0..1
   Input id=1 size=8 count=6 page=Keyboard usage=No_Event, logical range
0..255
 End collection
 Collection page=Consumer usage=Consumer_Control
 Collection page=Generic_Desktop usage=Keyboard
   Input id=71 size=8 count=1 page=0x0006 usage=0x0020 Variable, logical
range 0..255
 End collection
 End collection
   Input id=17 size=1 count=3 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
0..1
 Collection page=Consumer usage=Consumer_Control
   Input id=17 size=1 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Eject Variable, logical
range 0..1
   Input id=17 size=0 count=1 page=0x00ff usage=0x0003 Variable, logical
range 0..1
   Input id=17 size=1 count=3 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
0..1
   Input id=18 size=1 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Pause/Play Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Fast_Forward Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Rewind Variable, logical
range 0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Scan_Next_Track Variable,
logical range 0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 page=Consumer usage=Scan_Previous_Track
Variable, logical range 0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 page=0x usage=0x Const, logical range
0..1
   Input id=18 size=0 count=1 pag