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Re: uvm_mapent_alloc: out of static map entries
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:15:50PM -0401, jared r r spiegel wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:13:14PM -0400, jared r r spiegel wrote: > > > > on jul 11 snapshots now, have gone thru i think 2 or 3 snapshot iterations > > since ~early/mid june. > > cracked out again hardcore a bit ago (when it shits out it seems accurate > to call it a deadlock), so now am on: > > OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC.MP) #800: Mon Jul 14 20:28:22 MDT 2008 still on that snapshot; seems to be OK so far. two curious spuriousness happened today tho: Aug 1 22:12:47 iorek /bsd: uvm_mapent_alloc: out of static map entries Aug 1 23:12:49 iorek /bsd: uvm_mapent_alloc: out of static map entries those're the only instances of this message since previous email. two of those log warnings showed up; i corroborated those times against the log for the vmstat_watcher script i made up (which gets all its data from sysctl(1)): --- Aug 1 22:10:38 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 6337000 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 22:12:40 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 6338000 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 22:12:50 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 7014000 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 22:13:51 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 634 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 <...> Aug 1 23:11:56 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 6871000 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 23:12:47 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 7951000 maxused: 865 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 23:12:57 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 6868000 maxused: 8899000 limit: 39322000 Aug 1 23:13:07 iorek vmstat_watcher: vmstat_watcher: name: UVM_amap memuse: 6869000 maxused: 8899000 limit: 39322000 --- no other warnings in dmesg. so... something made the yelp to the ringbuffer, but i've got no guess as to what it was... no instance of unrecoverable deadlock for sure, no instance of recoverable deadlock (comalock?) *afaik*. i'm fine with the notion that the alloc/free or whatever happens faster than any granularity than my script can catch, but what i actually find curious is that the 'maxused' i get from sysctl also doesn't reflect even coming anywhere near the roof. http://www.ice-nine.org/jrrs/UVM.png is updated, fwiw... -- jared
Re: FFS2
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:53:24PM -0400, jmc wrote: > --- John Nietzsche [Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 07:19:11PM -0300]: --- > > Dear OpenBSD friends, > > > > how may i format a slice with FFS2? and what to put into /etc/fstab > IIRC from some list traffic, you have to be careful what filesystems you > format as FFS2 because the install kernels only have FFS compiled in, > and that could spell upgrade troubles. nod, i sent valueless bugreport on this instead of checking the FAQ. > you may not need any fstab mods, i haven't experimented yet... sorry i > can't help more. on this end, for our FFS2 partition, there's no difference in fstab -- jared
Re: Software for backing up files to DVD
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:46:20 -0500 (CDT), L. V. Lammert wrote: >DVDs are, believe it or not, not as reliable as a HD! Sez who? I've dropped a pile of DVDs and never lost a bit and I've seen more HD failures than I can poke a stick at, and those were not failures due to trauma. I use DVD-RAM cartridges to do backups. Those disks are rated at 100K cycles rewrite life. The drive is on a winbox that I must have to use some (government supplied) Tax software that runs on naught else but somebody hinted recently that FreeBSD can run DVD-RAM so it may move. OTOH I'm sort of familiar with XP and FBSD installs are a PITA in my experience. Carrying HDDs off-site is an adventure I don't encourage for backup. (Replies, if any, on list please. Off-list replies to the Sender: address are tarpitted. There is a Reply-to: that works for the shy.) Rod/ /earth: write failed, file system is full cp: /earth/creatures: No space left on device
Re: Software for backing up files to DVD
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Tim Hume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for software for backing up large directories > to DVD? I have many Gigabtyes (more than 20) of digital photos on my OpenBSD > machine, and would like a simple method of backing the files up to several > DVDs (which I can then store offsite). > > Currently I simply copy everything to a removeable hard drive, which is a > good method, but doesn't protect my files should someone steal all my > computer gear, or there was a fire (since I can't take the removeable hard > drive off site, because I use it for other day-to-day tasks as well as > backups). > > Cheers, > > Tim. > > I have been using bacula for several years now with mixed clients (including several openbsd machines) to tape. Bacula d2d(usb) seems like a better choice than to DVD in my opinion, including catalog, restore, encryption and other features that rival netbackup. The windows 'agent' works pretty well too. It can tend to be a little slow to restore if your catalog is amazingly large however. I believe you can choose whatever device you want to write to, cd-r , dvd etc. but i have never considered the latter as a backup medium myself. -mb
Re: sub-notebook computers
Anathae Townsend wrote: Besides the ASUS EEEPCs, has anyone tried to get other sub-notebooks working under OpenBSD? I tried a Fujutsu P1120 a while back. Everything worked except the touchscreen, and I understand that was fixed since then, but I haven't had a chance to try it. Probably would run much better under OpenBSD than WinXP.
Re: Software for backing up files to DVD
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Tim Hume wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for software for backing up large > directories to DVD? I have many Gigabtyes (more than 20) of digital > photos on my OpenBSD machine, and would like a simple method of backing > the files up to several DVDs (which I can then store offsite). > > Currently I simply copy everything to a removeable hard drive, which is > a good method, but doesn't protect my files should someone steal all my > computer gear, or there was a fire (since I can't take the removeable > hard drive off site, because I use it for other day-to-day tasks as well > as backups). > It would be a lot less hassle in the long run to get three or four USB drives - you can get a 250GB with enclosure for about $150US. Rotate them offsite, and problem solved. Rsync makes the process painless. DVDs are, believe it or not, not as reliable as a HD! In addition, they are a LOT slower to write, IME [YMMV, of course]. Lee == Leland V. Lammert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief ScientistOmnitec Corporation Network/Internet Consultants www.omnitec.net ==
Re: sub-notebook computers
On 08/01/2008 14:55, Anathae Townsend wrote: Besides the ASUS EEEPCs, has anyone tried to get other sub-notebooks working under OpenBSD? I used Sharp Zaurus SL-c3200 with OpenBSD/arm for a while. OpenBSD port is great and its probably the smallest device to run OpenBSD. If you need portability over usability and performance, this machine will fit the bill. But for serious work you need something with more comfortable keyboard, bigger screen and a little bit more power under the hood. -- Alex
Re: Software for backing up files to DVD
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 08:48:07AM +1000, Tim Hume wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for software for backing up large directories > to DVD? I have many Gigabtyes (more than 20) of digital photos on my OpenBSD > machine, and would like a simple method of backing the files up to several > DVDs (which I can then store offsite). The sysutils/shunt package is designed to pump set sizes from a continuous stream to a series of cd9660 images, and in combination with growisofs from sysutils/dvd+rw-tools may be just what you need.
Software for backing up files to DVD
Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for software for backing up large directories to DVD? I have many Gigabtyes (more than 20) of digital photos on my OpenBSD machine, and would like a simple method of backing the files up to several DVDs (which I can then store offsite). Currently I simply copy everything to a removeable hard drive, which is a good method, but doesn't protect my files should someone steal all my computer gear, or there was a fire (since I can't take the removeable hard drive off site, because I use it for other day-to-day tasks as well as backups). Cheers, Tim.
Re: 3.4-release random freeze
Paul M wrote: Hi all I'm attempting to install 4.3-release on an old compac but I'm getting random freezes shortly after boot. The most it has stayed up is about 1/2 hour, usually it'll die within a few minutes, sometimes it'll die during boot - once it even failed during the install process. The only way to recover is to kill the power. I had a similar problem and it was a faulty hdd. Jorge.
Re: sub-notebook computers
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:55:49PM -0600, Anathae Townsend wrote: > Besides the ASUS EEEPCs, has anyone tried to get other sub-notebooks working > under OpenBSD? > > > > Two computers I am thinking of are the MSI WIND (street price around $550 > canadian) and the Acer Aspire One A110-1955 (street price around $380 > canadian) > I am unsure if acer aspire 2920 qualifies as a "sub-notebook" but it is fairly small, not too expensive and is probably the best supported laptop I've ever ran OpenBSD on so far. Hacking in pubs is way more fun when you have a working wifi and battery state ;) Gilles -- Gilles Chehade http://www.poolp.org/~gilles/ Please, contribute to my happiness ;) http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2O09ACKR1A8HD/
sub-notebook computers
Besides the ASUS EEEPCs, has anyone tried to get other sub-notebooks working under OpenBSD? Two computers I am thinking of are the MSI WIND (street price around $550 canadian) and the Acer Aspire One A110-1955 (street price around $380 canadian) Anathae
Presentation: "Introduction to OpenBSD" in JRSL v8 Event - Buenos Aires, Argentina
Hi, for OpenBSD users in Argentina, I present a OpenBSD introduction (thu, 21 Aug 2008, 14pm, in Main Auditorium "Magna"). ** The 8th edition of the "Jornadas Regionales de Software Libre", a.k.a. JRSL, will happen on this August 20, 21 and 22, in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The JRSL is a Free/Open Source conference that has been held alternately in Argentina and Uruguay since the year 2000, and both the quality of its agenda and the number of its participants define the JRSL as one of the most important events of the region. This year the conference is organized by CaFeLUG (the Capital Federal GNU/Linux User Group), usuaria (the Argentinian Association of Telecommunication and Computer Users) and the University of Belgrano, Zabala 1837 which is hosting the conference. The event will also have other important guests, for a total of 80 speakers and 120 sessions. ** Greetings! Hernan -- # /dev/hdc -> OpenBSDeros.org hdc [at] openbsderos [dot] org
Re: 4.3 random reboots on Soekris 4501
Paul, Thanks. I will plan upgrading to latests snaps this weekend and report back. Regards Mohamed Paul de Weerd wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:00:58AM -0700, Mohamed Hussein Sayed wrote: Sorry, My wireless card is using the ral driver.It is acting as access point with WEP. CF card is a simpletech. This would have been obvious with a dmesg, so please provide one with these sort of reports. I have a soekris box that I have been using as my firewall/access point for many years. It used to be an older no longer supported release. I wanted to bring it up to 4.3 so I could upgrade to 4.4 in November. The machine in the past has been rock solid, no issues whatsoever. I did not upgrade, I did a complete install on a new cf card, migrated my relevant policies and config files. I have been experiencing some worrisome behavior: The machine randomly rebooted 3 times since Saturday. I also lost my ssh session randomly. I looked in the logs and don't see anything that stands out but perhaps I am not looking close enough. I wanted to check if anyone has experienced similar problems. Is there anything I can do to further debug the issue?Can I change the behavior of a potential crash ? Can you try the latest snapshots to see if you get the same issue ? The current snapshots are "pretty close" to what 4.4 will be, any issues you discover will be important to fix for a solid 4.4 in November. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
Re: 4.3 random reboots on Soekris 4501
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:00:58AM -0700, Mohamed Hussein Sayed wrote: > Sorry, > My wireless card is using the ral driver.It is acting as access point with > WEP. > CF card is a simpletech. This would have been obvious with a dmesg, so please provide one with these sort of reports. >> I have a soekris box that I have been using as my firewall/access point >> for many years. It used to be an older no longer supported release. I >> wanted to bring it up to 4.3 so I could upgrade to 4.4 in November. >> >> The machine in the past has been rock solid, no issues whatsoever. I did >> not upgrade, I did a complete install on a new cf card, migrated my >> relevant policies and config files. >> >> I have been experiencing some worrisome behavior: The machine randomly >> rebooted 3 times since Saturday. I also lost my ssh session randomly. I >> looked in the logs and don't see anything that stands out but perhaps I am >> not looking close enough. I wanted to check if anyone has experienced >> similar problems. Is there anything I can do to further debug the >> issue?Can I change the behavior of a potential crash ? Can you try the latest snapshots to see if you get the same issue ? The current snapshots are "pretty close" to what 4.4 will be, any issues you discover will be important to fix for a solid 4.4 in November. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- >[<++>-]<+++.>+++[<-->-]<.>+++[<+ +++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: 4.3 random reboots on Soekris 4501
Sorry, My wireless card is using the ral driver.It is acting as access point with WEP. CF card is a simpletech. Regards Mohamed Mohamed Hussein Sayed wrote: Hi, I have a soekris box that I have been using as my firewall/access point for many years. It used to be an older no longer supported release. I wanted to bring it up to 4.3 so I could upgrade to 4.4 in November. The machine in the past has been rock solid, no issues whatsoever. I did not upgrade, I did a complete install on a new cf card, migrated my relevant policies and config files. I have been experiencing some worrisome behavior: The machine randomly rebooted 3 times since Saturday. I also lost my ssh session randomly. I looked in the logs and don't see anything that stands out but perhaps I am not looking close enough. I wanted to check if anyone has experienced similar problems. Is there anything I can do to further debug the issue?Can I change the behavior of a potential crash ? Regards Mohamed
4.3 random reboots on Soekris 4501
Hi, I have a soekris box that I have been using as my firewall/access point for many years. It used to be an older no longer supported release. I wanted to bring it up to 4.3 so I could upgrade to 4.4 in November. The machine in the past has been rock solid, no issues whatsoever. I did not upgrade, I did a complete install on a new cf card, migrated my relevant policies and config files. I have been experiencing some worrisome behavior: The machine randomly rebooted 3 times since Saturday. I also lost my ssh session randomly. I looked in the logs and don't see anything that stands out but perhaps I am not looking close enough. I wanted to check if anyone has experienced similar problems. Is there anything I can do to further debug the issue?Can I change the behavior of a potential crash ? Regards Mohamed
hp-2133 info and dmesg
No hits in the archives on the hp-2133...
dmesg at http://henrik.hellerstedt.com/hp2133/dmesg.txt and below.
Installation via a 512mb usb failed, got some strange "ERR R" very
early in the boot process, didnt investigate since pxeboot worked.
Networking via cabel works fine, wifi fails.
Speedstep on the VIA C7-M seems to fail, cpu is running at max
all the time.
X via openchrome fails right now:
(EE) CHROME(0): Unknown Card-Ids (3371|103C|3030); please report to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.
(EE) CHROME(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
But there is hope:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.openchrome.user/910
X via the vesa driver works fine at native resolution:
http://henrik.hellerstedt.com/hp2133/Xorg.vesa.log.txt
http://henrik.hellerstedt.com/hp2133/xorg.conf.txt
The integraded webcam attaches to uvideo and video,
but fswebcam fails to grab an image:
http://henrik.hellerstedt.com/hp2133/fswebcam.txt
Everything else is pretty much untested.
Help to get wifi (and other devices) to work is gladly accepted.
Sincerely
Henrik Hellerstedt
OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #1000: Wed Jul 30 03:02:19 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 2
cpu0: VIA C7-M Processor 1200MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 1.20 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3,EST,TM2,xTPR
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
real mem = 937717760 (894MB)
avail mem = 898232320 (856MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 2
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/02/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfc550 (19 entries)
bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version "68VGU Ver. F.02" date 04/02/2008
bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP 2133
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 3.0 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf5ed0/208 (11 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 ("VIA VT8237S ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #128 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xca00 0xcd000/0x1600
cpu0 at mainbus0
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x0406060904000609
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1200 MHz (844 mV): speeds: 1200, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
"VIA P4M900 IOAPIC" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 6 "VIA P4M900 Security" rev 0x00
pchb6 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 "VIA P4M900 Host" rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT8377 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "VIA Chrome9 HC IGP" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
agp0 at vga1: v3, aperture at 0xf000, size 0x1000
ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "VIA P4M900 PCI-PCI" rev 0x80: irq 10
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
vendor "Broadcom", unknown product 0x4315 (class network subclass
miscellaneous, rev 0x01) at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured
ppb2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "VIA P4M900 PCI-PCI" rev 0x80: irq 10
pci3 at ppb2 bus 5
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "VIA VT8237S SATA" rev 0x00: DMA
pciide0: using irq 5 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0xb0: irq 11
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0xb0: irq 3
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0xb0: irq 7
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 "VIA VT6202 USB" rev 0x90: irq 3
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "VIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "VIA VT8237S ISA" rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
iic0: addr 0x1d 0f=3b 10=8e 11=82 12=81 13=11 14=11 15=02 16=04 17=84
18=01 19=c1 1a=0d 1b=48 20=07 27=0f 8f=3b 90=8e 91=82 92=81 93=11
94=11 95=02 96=04 97=84 98=01 99=c1 9a=0d 9b=48 a0=07 words 00=
01= 02= 03= 04= 05= 06= 07=
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5 SO-DIMM
pchb7 at pci0 dev 17 function 7 "VIA VT8251 VLINK" rev 0x00
ppb3 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "VIA VT8237A PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
pci4 at ppb3 bus 128
azalia0 at pci4 dev 1 function 0 "VIA HD Audio" rev 0x10: irq 5
azalia0: codec[s]: Analog Devices/0x194a
audio0 at azalia0
ppb4 at pci0 dev 19 function 1 "VIA VT8237A PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
pci5 at ppb4 bus 7
bge0 at pci5 dev 3 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5788" rev 0x03, BCM5705 A3
(0x3003): irq 11, address 00:1f
Re: Iwi, wireless bad behavior
Nick Guenther gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Edd Barrett gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > If you get the wep key (or network name) wrong when configuring iwi network > > drivers the card becomes useless until you reboot. This is annoying when at > > a friends house and I mistype the key for example. I have tried taking the > > interface down and back up, it makes no difference. > > > > Is there a way of resetting the card altogether? > > Have you tried pulling it out? That usually fixes my zyd(4) (though it > has other problems than yours). > -Nick ... maybe netstart(8) can help? I used when trashing my wireless configuration. Quoting from netstart(8): After the system is completely initialized, it is possible to start a newly created interface or bridge(4), or reset an existing interface to its default state, by invoking the following, where foo0 is the interface or bridge name: # sh /etc/netstart foo0
Re: Trying to compile cwm on Linux
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:35:36PM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:20:22PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > +#define strlcpy(dst, src, size) (strncpy((dst), (src), (size) - 1)) > > +#define strlcat(dst, src, size) (strncat((dst), (src), (size) - 1)) > > > > That is utterly and completely wrong. > > Yep, I'm a noob when it comes to these kinds of things. I'll look into > it. And so I did. Travelling and other work delayed me though. The result: http://martintoft.dk/?p=cwm Martin
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