Re: free ipv6 KVM-based - cloudspin.me [was - Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only]
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:08:04PM -0500, Jiri B wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 01:54:50AM +, Some Developer wrote: Vultr already support OpenBSD on their servers (you upload the OpenBSD install ISO and install it yourself) and their servers cost the same as Digital Ocean. Performance is good. They support IPv6 and they have more locations than Digital Ocean. Overall very pleased with them. My coll told me about cloudspin.me, it's oVirt/KVM based service, free of charge, public IPv6 only. oVirt is upstream OSS project for Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization. cloudspin.me does not offer OpenBSD image, what a suprise, but I suppose everybody is able to `dd' minirootXX.fs onto virtio disk :) It now offers an OpenBSD iso, runs just fine... Looks like some random dude finally implemented xkcd 908 j. -- I'm not entirely sure you are real.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
I should mention that RamNode offers OpenBSD -release without the need to upload any images: you can choose OpenBSD i386 or amd64 from the pre-loaded CD images for KVM servers. I have to run `cd /dev ./MAKEDEV all` after installation, though [*], to avoid getting daily insecurity reports. (Thanks, Benjamin!) Cheers! Ezequiel [*] https://www.marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=141768511309276w=2
Re: free ipv6 KVM-based - cloudspin.me [was - Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only]
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Florian Obser wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:08:04PM -0500, Jiri B wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 01:54:50AM +, Some Developer wrote: Vultr already support OpenBSD on their servers (you upload the OpenBSD install ISO and install it yourself) and their servers cost the same as Digital Ocean. Performance is good. They support IPv6 and they have more locations than Digital Ocean. Overall very pleased with them. My coll told me about cloudspin.me, it's oVirt/KVM based service, free of charge, public IPv6 only. oVirt is upstream OSS project for Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization. cloudspin.me does not offer OpenBSD image, what a suprise, but I suppose everybody is able to `dd' minirootXX.fs onto virtio disk :) It now offers an OpenBSD iso, runs just fine... Looks like some random dude finally implemented xkcd 908 j. -- I'm not entirely sure you are real. Recently started using Vultr due to this post and it works great.
Re: free ipv6 KVM-based - cloudspin.me [was - Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only]
I am trying to produce images of all the popular distros, but time is always short and I am a one man show. Having a DNS server that people can create their own resolvable hostnames is more pressing. I have iso's uploaded so people can roll their own. You are also free to create your own image an publish it to the community. I don't limit capabilities, only resources because they are finite. Donny Davis cloudspin.me -Original Message- From: Florian Obser [mailto:flor...@openbsd.org] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:43 AM To: Jiri B Cc: Some Developer; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: free ipv6 KVM-based - cloudspin.me [was - Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only] On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:08:04PM -0500, Jiri B wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 01:54:50AM +, Some Developer wrote: Vultr already support OpenBSD on their servers (you upload the OpenBSD install ISO and install it yourself) and their servers cost the same as Digital Ocean. Performance is good. They support IPv6 and they have more locations than Digital Ocean. Overall very pleased with them. My coll told me about cloudspin.me, it's oVirt/KVM based service, free of charge, public IPv6 only. oVirt is upstream OSS project for Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization. cloudspin.me does not offer OpenBSD image, what a suprise, but I suppose everybody is able to `dd' minirootXX.fs onto virtio disk :) It now offers an OpenBSD iso, runs just fine... Looks like some random dude finally implemented xkcd 908 j. -- I'm not entirely sure you are real.
free ipv6 KVM-based - cloudspin.me [was - Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only]
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 01:54:50AM +, Some Developer wrote: Vultr already support OpenBSD on their servers (you upload the OpenBSD install ISO and install it yourself) and their servers cost the same as Digital Ocean. Performance is good. They support IPv6 and they have more locations than Digital Ocean. Overall very pleased with them. My coll told me about cloudspin.me, it's oVirt/KVM based service, free of charge, public IPv6 only. oVirt is upstream OSS project for Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization. cloudspin.me does not offer OpenBSD image, what a suprise, but I suppose everybody is able to `dd' minirootXX.fs onto virtio disk :) j.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 16/12/14 15:10, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D. Vultr already support OpenBSD on their servers (you upload the OpenBSD install ISO and install it yourself) and their servers cost the same as Digital Ocean. Performance is good. They support IPv6 and they have more locations than Digital Ocean. Overall very pleased with them. They also support FreeBSD as well.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Using any OS on top of any virtual machine is like scratching your left year with your right leg as human. What is the noble purpose of doing that?
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com wrote: Using any OS on top of any virtual machine is like scratching your left year with your right leg as human. What is the noble purpose of doing that? Gee whiz. How incredibly insightful.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Rather than discuss provider by provider, when looking for an OpenBSD VPS, look for KVM. OpenBSD runs on virtually any KVM provider and there are many, at both the low $3-4/month end and at the high end. I've run OpenBSD on KVM for several years at a variety of providers. OpenBSD obviously does not run on OpenVZ or Virtuozzo (as they are only virtualizing the OS, not the machine). With Xen, it depends as there are a couple different modes, but in the commercial marketplace, it seems most providers are supporting Linux only. Some providers (DO, Vultr, 6sync, etc.) are setup to only handle Linux but under the hood they'e running KVM and there is no technical barrier, though they may not want to support BSD. Other providers (AWS, Azure, etc.) are using internally modified Xen which may or may not provide full machine virtualization. People run FreeBSD at AWS and Azure, though I have not yet heard of anyone running OpenBSD there. OpenBSD also runs fine in VMware's server products but I haven't seen a lot of providers using that. In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. Andrew Fabbro and...@fabbro.org https://raindog308.com
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. I have to take issue with that statement... The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small. What do you do if one day you're only getting 100kbps throughput? Call support, who - as soon as they learn you're running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... same thing. Not naming names, but this isn't just a theoretical problem. If you're lucky, great - go get bargain-basement VPS hosting on KVM (or Xen or whatever happens to work for you). If you're not so lucky, or you need better guarantees that it might work, then your options are quite limited. -- -Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net Cell: +1 204 291-7950 Fax: +1 204 489-6515
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small Yes, this is true. With the unmanaged providers, OpenBSD is no better or worse than any other OS. The provider will help if there's something broken on the hardware they manage, but inside your VPS, you're on your own. And unfortunately, and perhaps not surprisingly, Linux distros running on a Linux virutalization tech (KVM) generally run fine out of the box while OpenBSD requires a bit more special handling (setting vio flags, turning APIC off, etc.) and tends to reveal more bugs in KVM. Even there, often times unmanaged providers are familiar with the typical problems a Debian or Centos VPS will have and will assist, while OpenBSD is alien to them. With managed providers...there are very few who support OpenBSD. running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... I haven't had it go haywire per se, but sometimes have to turn it off during install, back on during regular use, and I have to turn APIC off. Oddly, the exact same settings with the exact same bsd.rd will cause a panic on one KVM and not on another.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24:45PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. I have to take issue with that statement... The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small. What do you do if one day you're only getting 100kbps throughput? Call support, who - as soon as they learn you're running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... same thing. Not naming names, And your bug report for this is ... where? -ml
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
2014-12-18 19:37 GMT+01:00 andrew fabbro and...@fabbro.org: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small Yes, this is true. http://www.bsws.de/en/ http://www.bsws.de/en/sicherheit/ It is based on OpenBSD, if someone is interested. BS actively supports the development of OpenBSD (yup developers). Maybe it's worth to publish on openbsd.org a list of companies with such an offer (OpenBSD based VPS)? btw. I do not have nothing to do with them, provides a link only. Best regards, Daniel
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 12/18/14 13:57, Mike Larkin wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24:45PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. I have to take issue with that statement... The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small. What do you do if one day you're only getting 100kbps throughput? Call support, who - as soon as they learn you're running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... same thing. Not naming names, And your bug report for this is ... where? It was a hypothetical situation not a known issue. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Mike Larkin mlar...@azathoth.net wrote: And your bug report for this is ... where? I thought about filing a bug report regarding a couple panics I've had on install (that went away with ACPI disabled in the provider's KVM control panel), but when I started to think about actually saying hey OpenBSD developers, I have a problem when running OpenBSD inside a Linux Kernel Virtualization Mode machine I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I was guessing that running OpenBSD inside the Linux kernel was not something that developers would be very interested in, particularly as the bugs are probably more likely to be outside OpenBSD than within it. However, if it would be beneficial to the project, I can certainly document and submit them.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 14-12-18 12:57 PM, Mike Larkin wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24:45PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. I have to take issue with that statement... The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small. What do you do if one day you're only getting 100kbps throughput? Call support, who - as soon as they learn you're running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... same thing. Not naming names, And your bug report for this is ... where? -ml The last time I filed a bugreport on OpenBSD in a virtualized environment, I got flamed for not running it on real hardware. Haven't bothered since. However, that was a few years ago, and the ACPI shutdown issue is a big enough PITA that I'll file again soon. Difficult to debug, though, since the all I/O except wscons just freezes upon receipt of the ACPI signal. -- -Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Maybe it's worth to publish on openbsd.org a list of companies with such an offer (OpenBSD based VPS)? Maybe it is worth publishing a list of laptops OpenBSD works on? Or, maybe a list of ethernet cards. Is this purpose's project to maintain lists, or to try to make the code better as best as we can? I think it is better to just make things work as best we can, and let the market sort itself out. Managing the supply side is properly your burden.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 01:21:47PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-18 12:57 PM, Mike Larkin wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24:45PM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-18 12:06 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: In short - the list of VPS providers who can support OpenBSD is actually very big. I have to take issue with that statement... The list of VPS providers where OpenBSD will run, more or less correctly, more or less all of the time, is actually very big. It will even run correctly all of the time on a fairly large list of providers. However, the list of VPS providers who are willing to *support* OpenBSD is extremely small. What do you do if one day you're only getting 100kbps throughput? Call support, who - as soon as they learn you're running OpenBSD - tell you that's not supported, sorry and hang up. When ACPI goes haywire (normal under KVM so far)... same thing. Not naming names, And your bug report for this is ... where? -ml The last time I filed a bugreport on OpenBSD in a virtualized environment, I got flamed for not running it on real hardware. Haven't bothered since. However, that was a few years ago, and the ACPI shutdown issue is a big enough PITA that I'll file again soon. Difficult to debug, though, since the all I/O except wscons just freezes upon receipt of the ACPI signal. -- -Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net It would be useful to at least see if this is a real ACPI issue or if this some problem KVM is causing. The former will elicit more sympathy than the latter. -ml
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014, andrew fabbro wrote: Rather than discuss provider by provider, when looking for an OpenBSD VPS, look for KVM. OpenBSD runs on virtually any KVM provider and there are many, at both the low $3-4/month end and at the high end. I've run OpenBSD on KVM for several years at a variety of providers. FYI, Xen [free] is also usable with OpenBSD, .. makes a great VM platform, been using it for years here in the shop. Lee
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 19/12/14 08:21, Adam Thompson wrote: The last time I filed a bugreport on OpenBSD in a virtualized environment, I got flamed for not running it on real hardware. Haven't bothered since. Ummm... Harden up. Flames are common around here. But I feel your pain. I use VPS to run OpenBSD in two places. I have been following this thread with interest. Some cheap VPS providers allow you to use a custom ISO which is a straight forward process, but looking at this thread I am wondering if I have the whole picture. Is this a suggestion for a new chapter in the FAQ? Worik -- Why is the legal status of chardonnay different to that of cannabis? worik.stan...@gmail.com 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand) I voted for love
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Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 11:14 PM, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Dec 16 17:58:37, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: I think the typical user will eventually realize that OpenBSD is one of the most valuable assets he or she can use in the pursuit of happiness and livelihood for ones family. Once that time comes, he or she will most definitely be looking for something like DigitalOcean. Right, because once you realize OpenBSD is a valuable asset, you are obviously gonna need cloud-based storage. Idiot. I don't see the need to twist my words like that. Should the average user decide to become a web or mobile app developer, cloud-based hosting would surely be the most convenient, and surely OpenBSD would give him or her a competitive advantage over the others. O.D.
DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:10:00PM +, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Plonk.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
What is digital ocean? On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
What is digital ocean? They're touted as the new rock stars of the hosting industry. Cheap SSD-enabled cloud hosting for your apps. You do have apps don't you? O.D. On 16. desember 2014 at 3:43 PM, Richard E. Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: What is digital ocean? On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585- digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 16.12.2014 16:52, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: What is digital ocean? They're touted as the new rock stars of the hosting industry. Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. Cheap SSD-enabled cloud hosting for your apps. You do have apps don't you? I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. Lars
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Hi OD, On 16 December 2014 at 07:10, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: I have not personally tested openBSD on https://www.vultr.com/ but I have read (tweets, probably) that it will work. https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D. Best, Jungle -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 16.12.2014 17:25, jungle Boogie wrote: I have not personally tested openBSD on https://www.vultr.com/ but I have read (tweets, probably) that it will work. There are quite a few of them. https://www.transip.eu/vps/ officially support OpenBSD and FreeBSD. Also completely SSD enabled. It seems to be just hype Lars
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:17 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Call them The Beatles, The Bob Marley and the Wailers or what have you. I wrote this thread for the people who do care, and I know a lot of you are lurking out there. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:20 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: I have not personally tested openBSD on https://www.vultr.com/ but I have read (tweets, probably) that it will work. I'm not so sure about Vultr. Icelandic Greenqloud (https://www.greenqloud.com/) are nice though. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
Thanks for sharing this. This is awesome, best news in all day. I was using Debian but when this is ready, I will use FreeBSD. If you're a student I invite you to join ( https://education.github.com/pack ), you get $100 in DO credit. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:10 AM, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 05:21:16PM +, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:44 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: There are quite a few of them. https://www.transip.eu/vps/ officially support OpenBSD and FreeBSD. Also completely SSD enabled. It seems to be just hype I quit using them after they refused to enable virtio for OpenBSD, despite having enabled it for FreeBSD. O.D. That has changed, they now do support virtio. -Otto
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 05:20:27PM +, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:20 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: I have not personally tested openBSD on https://www.vultr.com/ but I have read (tweets, probably) that it will work. I'm not so sure about Vultr. Icelandic Greenqloud (https://www.greenqloud.com/) are nice though. I personally use vultr for my OpenBSD vps. Their prices are reasonable, you can install from any ISO, and I have never had a problem. Currently hosting, my website, email, jabber server, and code repositories. O.D. -- Benjamin Scher Purcell PGP: CCB787BA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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So, its a cloud based server farm? What's the point for the typical user? On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:17 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Call them The Beatles, The Bob Marley and the Wailers or what have you. I wrote this thread for the people who do care, and I know a lot of you are lurking out there. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 16. desember 2014 at 5:46 PM, Richard E. Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: So, its a cloud based server farm? What's the point for the typical user? I think the typical user will eventually realize that OpenBSD is one of the most valuable assets he or she can use in the pursuit of happiness and livelihood for ones family. Once that time comes, he or she will most definitely be looking for something like DigitalOcean. Thanks. O.D. On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:17 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Call them The Beatles, The Bob Marley and the Wailers or what have you. I wrote this thread for the people who do care, and I know a lot of you are lurking out there. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Richard E. Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: So, its a cloud based server farm? What's the point for the typical user? Inexpensive VPS hosting with fast storage. I have one of their small instances (1 vCPU, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB storage) I'm paying $5/mo for. I'm pretty happy with it. $ sudo dd if=/dev/vda of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=2048 2048+0 records in 2048+0 records out 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 7.31609 s, 294 MB/s On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:17 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Call them The Beatles, The Bob Marley and the Wailers or what have you. I wrote this thread for the people who do care, and I know a lot of you are lurking out there. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 12/16/2014 06:18 PM, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Wanna bet? http://xkcd.com/1102
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
online.net is also a great cloud based server hosting service... -Message d'origine- De : owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] De la part de Gene Envoyé : mardi 16 décembre 2014 19:19 À : Richard E. Thornton Cc : misc Objet : Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Richard E. Thornton thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: So, its a cloud based server farm? What's the point for the typical user? Inexpensive VPS hosting with fast storage. I have one of their small instances (1 vCPU, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB storage) I'm paying $5/mo for. I'm pretty happy with it. $ sudo dd if=/dev/vda of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=2048 2048+0 records in 2048+0 records out 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 7.31609 s, 294 MB/s On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, On 16. desember 2014 at 4:17 PM, Lars li...@srdn.de wrote: Says who? Now it's digital ocean - next month it will be somebody else. I seem to fall out of the target group for this. As I don't share your obvious enthusiasm and just don't care - so many rock stars rise and fall. There's never been anyone as cheap, as well-designed and as quickly growing as DigitalOcean. Call them The Beatles, The Bob Marley and the Wailers or what have you. I wrote this thread for the people who do care, and I know a lot of you are lurking out there. O.D.
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On 17/12/14 05:25, jungle Boogie wrote: I have not personally tested openBSD on https://www.vultr.com/ but I have read (tweets, probably) that it will work. I am doing so, twice. Working well. You can use a custom ISO, they do not specifically enable OpenBSD. I have a digital Ocean instance too, but they do not (last time I checked) allow custom ISOs. Worik -- Why is the legal status of chardonnay different to that of cannabis? worik.stan...@gmail.com 021-1680650, (03) 4821804 Aotearoa (New Zealand) I voted for love
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
FWIW I have an OpenBSD 'box' with rootbsd.net. Never a single issue ever. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:10 AM, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems that DigitalOcean's BSD debut is going to be FreeBSD only. We, in the OpenBSD community, are being asked to open up a separate UserVoice vote for OpenBSD -- despite the fact that we've worked so hard to promote the existing one. So, please drop by and share your frustrations: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os -- I reckon around half the votes are from OpenBSD users. Many thanks! O.D.
