Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:26:37PM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 10/31/06, Berk D. Demir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. I took a stopwatch to it and firefox is 2.5 seconds. In other words it loads in under a california second :) but a big improvement nonetheless. good video drivers we need. I prebound the mozilla libraries and it didn't help a ton -- maybe a 10th of a second if that. is the new prebinding code in 4.0? Yes, but stuff like Firefox which relies on non-standard library paths (outside the normal ldconfig paths) can't use it, IIRC. Additionally, as pointed out, it isn't enabled yet. Joachim
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 11/1/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, as pointed out, it isn't enabled yet. I take you mean by default. I've playing with it and it seems to be doing something. I really should go read some of the diffs and tech@ to get an idea where its being loaded. firefox runs without issue prebound or not. # ldconfig -Pv /usr/local/mozilla-firefox /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components loading dir /usr/local/mozilla-firefox processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libgfxpsshar.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libgkgfx.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libgtkxtbin.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libjsj.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libnspr4.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libnss3.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libnssckbi.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libplc4.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libplds4.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libsmime3.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libsoftokn3.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libssl3.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libxpcom.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libxpcom_compat.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libxpcom_core.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libxpistub.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/LICENSE processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/README.OpenBSD processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/mozicon16.xpm processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/mozicon50.xpm processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-bin processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-xremote-client processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/regxpcom processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/run-mozilla.sh loading dir /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libaccessibility.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libappcomps.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libauth.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libautoconfig.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libbrowsercomps.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libbrowserdirprovider.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libcaps.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libchrome.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libcommandlines.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libcomposer.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libcookie.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libdocshell.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libeditor.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libembedcomponents.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libfileview.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libgfx_gtk.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libgfxps.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libgklayout.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libgkplugin.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libhtmlpars.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libi18n.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libimglib2.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libjar50.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libjsd.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libmork.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozfind.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libnecko.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libnecko2.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libnsappshell.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/liboji.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libpermissions.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libpipboot.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libpipnss.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libpippki.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/dom.xpt processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libpref.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/librdf.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libremoteservice.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libsearchservice.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libsystem-pref.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libtoolkitcomps.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libtransformiix.so.14.0 processing /usr/local/mozilla-firefox/components/libtxmgr.so.14.0 processing
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:43:55AM -0800, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 11/1/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, as pointed out, it isn't enabled yet. I take you mean by default. I've playing with it and it seems to be doing something. I really should go read some of the diffs and tech@ to get an idea where its being loaded. firefox runs without issue prebound or not. Yes, that's what I mean. I've not seen a terribly large amount of docs yet. Then again, it isn't 'released' yet and it is possible to figure out what to type, so it all works out in the end. Joachim
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/19/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true, but once everything is loaded and the system has been running long enough to figure out what belongs in swap and what belongs in memory, simple stuff shouldn't take too long. Simple stuff like opening an xterm. following up, I've installed a dual-head matrox g450, using xorg's mga driver and its 2d performance is head and shoulders over the i810 driver. Running in dual-head mode, 1280x1024 16bit color, using xinerama. ive also switched onto a newer hd and a nforce2 mb with a dual-channel memory setup, it has a athlon 1100 in it and performance in kde from ports is acceptable. most apps are loading in under a second (including firefox) and with the eye candy all turned on. thanks to the person who kept a link up to a dual-head mga xorg.conf in the archives, posting it in this message for future installations: OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #1107: Sat Sep 16 19:15:58 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 1.84 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1073250304 (1048096K) avail mem = 971014144 (948256K) using 4256 buffers containing 53764096 bytes (52504K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(70) BIOS, date 08/12/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfbba0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf (37 entries) bios0: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6570 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdaf4 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfda30/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 12 pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x9000 0xcc000/0x1800 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 PCI rev 0xc1 NVIDIA nForce2 rev 0xc1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured NVIDIA nForce2 rev 0xc1 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 not configured NVIDIA nForce2 rev 0xc1 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured NVIDIA nForce2 rev 0xc1 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 not configured NVIDIA nForce2 rev 0xc1 at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 ISA rev 0xa3 nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce2 SMBus rev 0xa2 iic0 at nviic0 unknown at iic0 addr 0x2f not configured iic1 at nviic0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 USB rev 0xa3: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: NVIDIA OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce2 USB rev 0xa3: irq 12, version 1.0, legacy support usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: NVIDIA OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 NVIDIA nForce2 USB rev 0xa3: irq 10 usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: NVIDIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered nfe0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 LAN rev 0xa1: irq 10, address 00:10:dc:fd:a7:d7 icsphy0 at nfe0 phy 1: ICS1893 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 auich0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 AC97 rev 0xa1: irq 5, nForce2 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x414c4720 (Avance Logic ALC650) ac97: codec features 20 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, Realtek 3D audio0 at auich0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 PCI-PCI rev 0xa3 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vendor 3Com, unknown product 0x1050 (class network subclass ethernet, rev 0x00) at pci1 dev 8 function 0 not configured rl0 at pci1 dev 9 function 0 D-Link Systems 530TX+ rev 0x10: irq 12, address 00:40:05:81:5b:d9 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY puc0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 US Robotics 3CP5610 rev 0x01: com pccom3 at puc0 port 0 irq 11 0 : ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pciide0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 IDE rev 0xa2: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD2500JB-00REA0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 488397168 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: LITEON, CD-ROM LTN526S, YS0J SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 NVIDIA nForce2 AGP rev 0xc1 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Matrox MGA G400/G450 AGP rev 0x85 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard,
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
Karsten McMinn wrote: apps are loading in under a second (including firefox) and with the eye candy all turned on. Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. Good for you.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/31/06, Berk D. Demir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under 1 second... Even Firefox... I can not achieve similar even with prebind'ed binaries on an Athlon64 3500+ with more than 1GB empty DDR2 memory to scratch. I took a stopwatch to it and firefox is 2.5 seconds. In other words it loads in under a california second :) but a big improvement nonetheless. good video drivers we need. I prebound the mozilla libraries and it didn't help a ton -- maybe a 10th of a second if that. is the new prebinding code in 4.0?
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
is the new prebinding code in 4.0? The code is there. It is not being used by anything yet. There are things which need to be worked out.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
is the new prebinding code in 4.0? The code is there. It is not being used by anything yet. There are things which need to be worked out. and this stuff is documented in the ldconfig(8) manpage, see -P, if you want to play.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 2006/10/19 10:03, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: dillo is fast but useless. You can get the same thing with any of the console browsers like w3m,lynx,elinks etc... anyone who hasn't tried w3m might have a surprise if they run w3m-*-image in an xterm.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 10:03:37AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:42:45PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: I'm not sure about KDE, but rxvt loads pretty fast (10ms?) on ion. And this is not exactly new hardware (neomagic driver, Thinkpad 390X). aterm takes .5 seconds due to the transparent background, and dillo takes about 1 second before it begins displaying my home page. It's more in the applications than in Xorg, usually. Joachim No need to be not sure about KDE. KDE is bloatware and everyone knows that. Something like the bash shell. That's true, but once everything is loaded and the system has been running long enough to figure out what belongs in swap and what belongs in memory, simple stuff shouldn't take too long. Simple stuff like opening an xterm. bash may be bloatware, but it should still open rather fast on a more-or-less modern machine. dillo is fast but useless. You can get the same thing with any of the console browsers like w3m,lynx,elinks etc... I am especially fond of w3m, and yes, I am aware that it does graphics too. I do use dillo every now and then, but are beginning to lean more and more towards just using w3m. Joachim
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/17/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if anyone experiences this kind of performance in any xorg environment, please share your hardware/app/config setup and any non-standard xorg config options, thanks ladies and gents. _Karsten Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find a card based on this series with a dvi port. mga is also promising.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find a card based on this series with a dvi port. mga is also promising. I've got a G450 on order already to see how that guy works. I've read in places that the 2d performance with those cards under the mga driver is fast. Besides 2d performance though I'd love to answer questions like why one has to wait 2 seconds to load apps like konsole or kedit (on kde 3.5). kde is probably a bad example, but its usually the same stuff with other apps in the other windows managers. I may be preaching to the choir, but for some reason after years of using X-apps/windows I just have to know if there a faster way to do xorg that I may have missed somewhere, some faq, some manpage, some better (faster) app and window setup that I may have missed somewhere
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/18/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find a card based on this series with a dvi port. mga is also promising. I've got a G450 on order already to see how that guy works. I've read in places that the 2d performance with those cards under the mga driver is fast. Besides 2d performance though I'd love to answer questions like why one has to wait 2 seconds to load apps like konsole or kedit (on kde 3.5). kde is probably a bad example, but its usually the same stuff with other apps in the other windows managers. I may be preaching to the choir, but for some reason after years of using X-apps/windows I just have to know if there a faster way to do xorg that I may have missed somewhere, some faq, some manpage, some better (faster) app and window setup that I may have missed somewhere I have an old IBM T20 laptop using Windowmaker, default untweaked install, and the smaller apps open in a flash. The only apps slow to open on it are Firefox and Thunderbird. Greg
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 09:55:10AM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote: On 10/18/06, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation is key! http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/CategoryHardwareChipset http://www.xfree86.org/current/manindex4.html It took me about 30 minutes to find a $30 ati card that is well supported. The 9200 looks promising. I was able to find a card based on this series with a dvi port. mga is also promising. I've got a G450 on order already to see how that guy works. I've read in places that the 2d performance with those cards under the mga driver is fast. Besides 2d performance though I'd love to answer questions like why one has to wait 2 seconds to load apps like konsole or kedit (on kde 3.5). kde is probably a bad example, but its usually the same stuff with other apps in the other windows managers. I may be preaching to the choir, but for some reason after years of using X-apps/windows I just have to know if there a faster way to do xorg that I may have missed somewhere, some faq, some manpage, some better (faster) app and window setup that I may have missed somewhere I'm not sure about KDE, but rxvt loads pretty fast (10ms?) on ion. And this is not exactly new hardware (neomagic driver, Thinkpad 390X). aterm takes .5 seconds due to the transparent background, and dillo takes about 1 second before it begins displaying my home page. It's more in the applications than in Xorg, usually. Joachim
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:42:45PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: I'm not sure about KDE, but rxvt loads pretty fast (10ms?) on ion. And this is not exactly new hardware (neomagic driver, Thinkpad 390X). aterm takes .5 seconds due to the transparent background, and dillo takes about 1 second before it begins displaying my home page. It's more in the applications than in Xorg, usually. Joachim No need to be not sure about KDE. KDE is bloatware and everyone knows that. Something like the bash shell. dillo is fast but useless. You can get the same thing with any of the console browsers like w3m,lynx,elinks etc... I have been very very happy with windowmaker so far. Performance is amazing, very clean neat design and works very well on old hardware. I believe X does play a role as long as apps don't screw up which they usually do. Best, Girish -- Duty for duty's sake without hope for reward or fear of punishment
Fast Xorg Performance
I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if anyone experiences this kind of performance in any xorg environment, please share your hardware/app/config setup and any non-standard xorg config options, thanks ladies and gents. _Karsten
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/17/06, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to get fast 2d xorg (and friends) performance. I term fast as not having to wait for window operations, with most every application and xorg opertation taking no longer than 100ms. if anyone experiences this kind of performance in any xorg environment, please share your hardware/app/config setup and any non-standard xorg config options, thanks ladies and gents. do you mean if anyone experiences anything that bad? i've never had a window operation take as long as 100ms even using the vesa driver.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On 10/17/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you mean if anyone experiences anything that bad? i've never had a window operation take as long as 100ms even using the vesa driver. the example closest to me at the moment is a desktop I work on: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2 02:26:48 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID real mem = 527495168 (515132K) vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82845G/GL Video rev 0x01: aperture at 0xe800, size 0x800 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) running xfce, opening the file manger takes about 1500ms, dragging windows is choppyish. Display is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get similar performance in kde as well, but this seems to be the norm on most machina that I work on, typically running on the i810 xorg driver on different platforms.
Re: Fast Xorg Performance
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 02:37:32PM -0700, Karsten McMinn wrote: OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar 2 02:26:48 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID real mem = 527495168 (515132K) vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82845G/GL Video rev 0x01: aperture at 0xe800, size 0x800 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) My laptop: OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #2: Sat Sep 2 09:49:35 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.10GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 599 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 600 MHz (812 mV): speeds: 1100, 1000, 900, 800, 600 MHz real mem = 258437120 (252380K) vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82852GM AGP rev 0x02: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x800 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) X runs fine with the X i810 driver. I can watch movies with mplayer, and my window manager switches between windows just fine.