Re: PLEASE STOP NOW! (Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world')

2007-11-04 Thread Coleman Kane
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Anders Magnusson wrote:
> I do not want to start moderating the mail that goes to the
> pcc-list. Please spend the time finding and fixing bugs in pcc
> instead. If anyone of you have personal issues with each other, DO
> NOT DISCUSS IT HERE.
>
> And, as Kjell Wooding wrote, I can top-post to the mailing list as
> much as I want :-)
>
> -- Ragge
I took this off the PCC list (by request). I figured I would share an
article as I think that it pertains (and might help convince some that
others here aren't degenerate or offensive lunatics):
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i0uWMHXnLI6Ob4YfsDQU8BC8Vtvg
http://www.infoniac.com/science/swearing-workplace-boosts-productivity.html

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Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread Ray Percival

On Nov 4, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Timo Schoeler wrote:



Timo
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Stop fucking signing mails to a public list that is BEYOND fucking  
annoying and all by itself proves that you're a clueless fuckwit.  
STFU and GTFO. 



PLEASE STOP NOW! (Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world')

2007-11-04 Thread Anders Magnusson

I do not want to start moderating the mail that goes to the pcc-list.
Please spend the time finding and fixing bugs in pcc instead. 
If anyone of you have personal issues with each other, DO NOT DISCUSS IT 
HERE.


And, as Kjell Wooding wrote, I can top-post to the mailing list as much 
as I want :-)


-- Ragge

Tony Abernethy skrev:

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:39 +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote:
  
What part of my email did *you* read 


None.
My understanding is that it is demented gibberish.




Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread Tony Abernethy
> > On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:39 +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> > > What part of my email did *you* read 
None.
My understanding is that it is demented gibberish.



Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:39 +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> What part of my email did *you* read _and_ understand? Obviously _not_
> the part that I _like_ OpenBSD, but I _dislike_ how it's being
> destroyed? :)

Then fork OpenBSD. Sitting here and whining about how it is "being
destroyed" just makes you look like a jerk. BSD puts the power in the
your hands to fix things when you don't like how they are going. This is
done by forking. If everything was a perfect world, then there would
only be one version of BSD which solved everybody's problems, one
distribution of Linux which solved everybody's problems, etcetera, but
it isn't.

If you're not willing to fork, or provide objective criticism of
something other than "Theo is an asshole" (I mean come on, we've heard
about this for like 15+ years), then that makes you an asshole too.
While Theo might not have the best etiquette, at least he gives a damn,
and really when it comes to it, that's all that matters, because BSD and
free software in general are about _computing_, not manners and
etiquette.

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Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread Timo Schoeler
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Thus William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake Sun, 04 Nov
2007 09:17:53 -0600:

> On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:39 +0100, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> > What part of my email did *you* read _and_ understand? Obviously
> > _not_ the part that I _like_ OpenBSD, but I _dislike_ how it's being
> > destroyed? :)
> 
> Then fork OpenBSD.

No reason.

> Sitting here and whining about how it is "being
> destroyed" just makes you look like a jerk.

First, I'm not whining. I pointed something out. That's a big
difference even a developer should know. (I do.)

Second, it does not really affect _me_ if OpenBSD passes by. But it
will affect others.

Being Cassandra always was a job nobody wanted to have.

> BSD puts the power in the
> your hands to fix things when you don't like how they are going. This
> is done by forking.

Then why don't you fork instead of answering to this email?

> If everything was a perfect world, then there
> would only be one version of BSD which solved everybody's problems,
> one distribution of Linux which solved everybody's problems,
> etcetera, but it isn't.

(No. There were no computers.)

> If you're not willing to fork, or provide objective criticism

What part of my email did you actually read _and_ understand? (I like
this sentence!)

> of
> something other than "Theo is an asshole" 

I _did_ _not_ _write_ this.

> (I mean come on, we've heard
> about this for like 15+ years),

Obviously, there must be a reason for this, no?

> then that makes you an asshole too.

Logic.

> While Theo might not have the best etiquette, at least he gives a
> damn, and really when it comes to it, that's all that matters,
> because BSD and free software in general are about _computing_, not
> manners and etiquette.

What a tiny world you live in. Who uses computers? Think of Henry Ford.

Best wishes,

Timo
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Re: OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread Timo Schoeler
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Thus Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake Sun, 04
Nov 2007 13:15:27 +0100:

> Timo Schoeler wrote:
> > Thus Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake Thu, 01 Nov 2007
> > 05:43:06 -0600:
> > 
> >> Where's the diffs Timo?
> > 
> >> Are you going to continue preaching bullshit, and then not showing
> >> diffs?
> > 
> > (Please see the bottom of the email for my reply. As it used to be.)
> [massive fullquote]
> > 
> > Hi list, hi Theo,
> [OT rant]
> 
> Who are you to complain about top-posting and then running in a
> fullquote?

A member of this fucking email lists. :)

> Who are you to waste precious developer time by writing
> such a nonsensical mail to multiple(!) mailing lists?

Dito.

> Who are you
> wanting to teach manners to a grown up?

Ouch. Who is the grown up? Theo? No, he continually uses the language
of a three-year-old child stuck in the anal phase.

You? No. Grown ups are able to _discuss_. You are not.

> Your goal might be noble,

See.

> but in this context you're nothing but a troll, since the moment you
> appeared on this list.  Fuck! (sic)

Ah. That hurts s much.

> Grow up and ignore the stuff you
> don't like or simply walk away.

What part of my email did *you* read _and_ understand? Obviously _not_
the part that I _like_ OpenBSD, but I _dislike_ how it's being
destroyed? :)

> That was the last brownie from me, no more food for you.

I don't take food from you either, so don't mind.

>   simon

Have a nice day!

Timo
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OT: Re: Theo's new compiler and etiquette both in cyberspace and the 'real world'

2007-11-04 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Timo Schoeler wrote:
> Thus Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake Thu, 01 Nov 2007
> 05:43:06 -0600:
>
>> Where's the diffs Timo?
>
>> Are you going to continue preaching bullshit, and then not showing
>> diffs?
>
> (Please see the bottom of the email for my reply. As it used to be.)
[massive fullquote]
>
> Hi list, hi Theo,
[OT rant]

Who are you to complain about top-posting and then running in a
fullquote?  Who are you to waste precious developer time by writing such
a nonsensical mail to multiple(!) mailing lists?  Who are you wanting to
teach manners to a grown up?  Your goal might be noble, but in this
context you're nothing but a troll, since the moment you appeared on
this list.  Fuck! (sic)  Grow up and ignore the stuff you don't like or
simply walk away.

That was the last brownie from me, no more food for you.
  simon

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