Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-31 Thread Mostaf Faridi
Thanks all guys,  but I need guide about Asus or Sony. Can I find Asus or
Sony can work great with OpenBSD?
On Dec 31, 2011 9:28 AM, "Richard Thornton" 
wrote:

> buy an i3 instead, but what is the deign flaw which cannot be fixed via
> microcode updates?
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:16 PM, STeve Andre'  wrote:
>
> > On 12/30/11 21:23, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0500
> >> "STeve Andre'" wrote:
> >>
> >>  It's not the newest model, but the W500 is a wonderful laptop.  I
> >>> am using it now.  2.8G core two
> >>>
> >> Should that be w500 with dual core. Core two duos have botched microcode
> >> with security risks according to Theo, though I'm not sure of the
> >> specifics/severity.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Yes, W500's do have that potential problem.  It's a real issue,
> > which makes me think that not running Windows is a grand
> > idea.  I'm not sure there is a solution to this.  Laptops are
> > special--you can't take parts out or add them as easily as a
> > desktop.  *sigh*
> >
> > --STeve Andre'



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Richard Thornton
buy an i3 instead, but what is the deign flaw which cannot be fixed via
microcode updates?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:16 PM, STeve Andre'  wrote:

> On 12/30/11 21:23, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0500
>> "STeve Andre'" wrote:
>>
>>  It's not the newest model, but the W500 is a wonderful laptop.  I
>>> am using it now.  2.8G core two
>>>
>> Should that be w500 with dual core. Core two duos have botched microcode
>> with security risks according to Theo, though I'm not sure of the
>> specifics/severity.
>>
>>
>>  Yes, W500's do have that potential problem.  It's a real issue,
> which makes me think that not running Windows is a grand
> idea.  I'm not sure there is a solution to this.  Laptops are
> special--you can't take parts out or add them as easily as a
> desktop.  *sigh*
>
> --STeve Andre'



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread STeve Andre'

On 12/30/11 21:23, Kevin Chadwick wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0500
"STeve Andre'" wrote:


It's not the newest model, but the W500 is a wonderful laptop.  I
am using it now.  2.8G core two

Should that be w500 with dual core. Core two duos have botched microcode
with security risks according to Theo, though I'm not sure of the
specifics/severity.



Yes, W500's do have that potential problem.  It's a real issue,
which makes me think that not running Windows is a grand
idea.  I'm not sure there is a solution to this.  Laptops are
special--you can't take parts out or add them as easily as a
desktop.  *sigh*

--STeve Andre'



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado

On 12/30/2011 10:06 AM, Mostaf Faridi wrote:

Thanks all guys .
Sorry for my bad English , I must use laptop , but I used labtop .
For me model is very important ,for example I want know which model of
Lenovo work good with OpenBSD . For example I want know Lenovo ThinkPad
7000t work good or no


Don't worry about the wireless adapter. If It isn't compatible, buy a 
nano wifi adapter [1] (are very cheap and compatible).


The other hardware is more important because you can't change this if 
your election is bad. Just buy a good laptop :)


1.- http://www.andahammer.com/assets/Uploads/HomePage/EDUPNano2.jpg

Cheers.

--
Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:42:43 -0500
"STeve Andre'" wrote:

> It's not the newest model, but the W500 is a wonderful laptop.  I
> am using it now.  2.8G core two

Should that be w500 with dual core. Core two duos have botched microcode
with security risks according to Theo, though I'm not sure of the
specifics/severity.



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Dave Anderson
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Mostaf Faridi wrote:

>Hello all guys,
>After long time I want buy labtop and I want use it in my work place , in
>my work place we have only wireless network and we do not have wire network
>and we have linksys router and other guys connect to linksys and use
>network .other guys use Windows ,but I want use OpenBSD , and I do not know
>which models ,I must buy .my new labtop must work in wireless network .
>Please help me which model I must buy . I can find Lenovo and Asus in here
>and I can find some model of Sony too.
>I want use OpenBSD with GNOME and I want use it as Desktop.
>Please guide me which model I must buy ? My notebook or my labtop must has
>6 gigabytes of RAM and has very powerful CPU

This can be very difficult to deal with since most manufacturers not
only won't tell you exactly what parts they're using but will change
them without notice.  What I did was to install the latest amd64
snapshot to a USB stick, boot that on the demo machines in stores, and
save the dmesg to the stick so I could analyze it later for unsupported
hardware.  Most (but not all) stores here were willing to let me do
this.  I eventually found a model where everything I cared about worked.

Dave

-- 
Dave Anderson




Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread STeve Andre'

On 12/30/11 04:06, Mostaf Faridi wrote:

Thanks all guys .
Sorry for my bad English , I must use laptop , but I used labtop .
For me model is very important ,for example I want know which model of
Lenovo work good with OpenBSD . For example I want know Lenovo ThinkPad
7000t work good or no
On Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM, "Vitali"  wrote:



It's not the newest model, but the W500 is a wonderful laptop.  I
am using it now.  2.8G core two, 8G ram, one or two disks, Intel
em ethernet and iwn wireless, USB 2, ATI Raedon video.

Look for them; since they are not new, the price has come
down.

--STeve Andre'



Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:36:11PM +0330, Mostaf Faridi wrote:
> Thanks all guys .
> Sorry for my bad English , I must use laptop , but I used labtop .
> For me model is very important ,for example I want know which model of
> Lenovo work good with OpenBSD . For example I want know Lenovo ThinkPad
> 7000t work good or no
> On Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM, "Vitali"  wrote:

Most distributors have only 1 bit to deal with this info:

- wifi
- no wifi

In such places, asking just for the brand is ask to much
already. Depending on where you live, you'll have to figure it out
yourself.

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Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Vitali
> Lenovo work good with OpenBSD . For example I want know Lenovo ThinkPad
> 7000t work good or no
>

I also got Lenovo G565 with Broadcom 4313 unsupported yet by OpenBSD,
but this is not an issue to me, so I can wait until the driver is
ported.
You should print out the list of supported WiFi's and consult your
notebook distributor when buying a note to be sure.
Some distributors may provide hardware configuration according to the
client's wish. I don't know how it is in your country.

> On Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM, "Vitali"  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mostaf Faridi 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello all guys,
>> > After long time I want buy labtop and I want use it in my work place ,


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Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Mostaf Faridi
Thanks all guys .
Sorry for my bad English , I must use laptop , but I used labtop .
For me model is very important ,for example I want know which model of
Lenovo work good with OpenBSD . For example I want know Lenovo ThinkPad
7000t work good or no
On Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM, "Vitali"  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mostaf Faridi 
> wrote:
> > Hello all guys,
> > After long time I want buy labtop and I want use it in my work place , in
> > my work place we have only wireless network and we do not have wire
> network
> > and we have linksys router and other guys connect to linksys and use
> > network .other guys use Windows ,but I want use OpenBSD , and I do not
> know
> > which models ,I must buy .my new labtop must work in wireless network .
> > Please help me which model I must buy . I can find Lenovo and Asus in
> here
> > and I can find some model of Sony too.
> > I want use OpenBSD with GNOME and I want use it as Desktop.
> > Please guide me which model I must buy ? My notebook or my labtop must
> has
> > 6 gigabytes of RAM and has very powerful CPU
> >
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless
> Please, look here. There is a list of the supported WiFie devices.
>
>
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Re: I want buy labtop ,work OpenBSD, wireless network must work

2011-12-30 Thread Vitali
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mostaf Faridi 
wrote:
> Hello all guys,
> After long time I want buy labtop and I want use it in my work place , in
> my work place we have only wireless network and we do not have wire network
> and we have linksys router and other guys connect to linksys and use
> network .other guys use Windows ,but I want use OpenBSD , and I do not know
> which models ,I must buy .my new labtop must work in wireless network .
> Please help me which model I must buy . I can find Lenovo and Asus in here
> and I can find some model of Sony too.
> I want use OpenBSD with GNOME and I want use it as Desktop.
> Please guide me which model I must buy ? My notebook or my labtop must has
> 6 gigabytes of RAM and has very powerful CPU
>

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Wireless
Please, look here. There is a list of the supported WiFie devices.


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