Re: The Book of PF: Physical copies to be available again soon
On Sat, Nov 04, 2023 at 10:52:01AM -0400, Jay Hart wrote: > > Peter, > > Any plans to update it? Questions of the type "Are you working on a new edition of your book about ?" or the more general "Are you working on a book about ?" or even "When is your next book coming out?" are never going to be answered truthfully, or at all, by any writer or publisher unless a definite publication date has been set and they are confident that all the myriad factors that determine the outcome of the project are firmly under control. If the real question is, "Would it be safe for me to start writing a PF book?" My answer is no. There is no guarantee that the effort you put in will give satisfactory-to-you returns in any form or fashion. Writing is a time sink and publishers may or may not be interested. On the other hand if you are asking, "Should I start writing a book on PF or a related subject?", my take is, please do, if you feel that it is a thing worth doing. But again, keep in mind that writing a book and getting it published will eat up several significantly more than bite-sized chunks of your time, but if you feel that your book needs to be written, please go ahead. The reason The Book of PF exists is that I had a general idea of what kind of PF book I would like to see existing, and a work in progress manuscript existed that I showed to anyone interested. Fortunately enough people relevant to getting the book actually published (and revised twice so far) agreed that this book needed to happen. When I get to the point that a new edition of The Book of PF or any other book relevant to OpenBSD that I am able to write is certain to be published at a specific time, this mailing list will be one of the first public forums that will receive notification. That much I will promise. All the best, Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The Book of PF: Physical copies to be available again soon
Peter, Any plans to update it? R/, Jay > For those interested in physical copies of The Book of PF > (https://nostarch.com/pf3) > -- it has been out of print, only available in electronic formats for a while > -- > I just got word from No Starch Press (the publisher) that they are expecting > to > have a fresh batch arriving at their warehouse within the next few weeks. > > I will share any details with those interested when I have them. > > All the best, > Peter > > -- > Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team > https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/ > "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" > delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. > >
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 09:23:35PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > pe...@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes: > The amount is certainly in the comfortable zone for me, and with three > days to go it's entirely possible that this auction will indeed bring > in more money than Michael Lucas' Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd edition > auction[2]. Bah! Not a chance. If by some bizarre failure of natural law that should happen, I'll be compelled to write an OpenBSD book next year to auction off. Just so MY next auction can CRUSH HANSTEEN'S ABSURD FLUKE OF LUCK AND RESTORE THE NATURAL ORDER. I mean, the footnotes in BoPF3 all contain actual *facts* -- how lame is that? > One other point worth considering is that with both Michael Lucas and > me setting up these auctions, we have essentially created a new rule: > If you write an OpenBSD book, you are morally obliged to auction off > the first signed copy for the benefit of the project. That should not > be seen as a barrier to entry, rather the opposite. Only if you want to be one of the cool kids. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
pe...@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes: > It's that scribe from the fjords again. Today I took delivery of my > The Book of PF 3rd edition author copies, and I blogged about it: > http://bsdly.blogspot.no/2014/10/the-book-of-pf-3rd-edition-is-here.html On OpenBSD 5.6 release day, auction status after one week is this (see [1] for details): A total of 20 bids, with the current high bid at US $1,009.99. The amount is certainly in the comfortable zone for me, and with three days to go it's entirely possible that this auction will indeed bring in more money than Michael Lucas' Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd edition auction[2]. If that happens I'll be very pleased, but regardless of the final amount I hope the successful bidder will allow me to publish their name and that the unsuccessful bidders will make direct donations to the OpenBSD Foundation equal to or larger than the amount of their highest bid. One other point worth considering is that with both Michael Lucas and me setting up these auctions, we have essentially created a new rule: If you write an OpenBSD book, you are morally obliged to auction off the first signed copy for the benefit of the project. That should not be seen as a barrier to entry, rather the opposite. Now enjoy the weekend and the newly arrived OpenBSD 5.6 release, I'll be back with useful updates as soon as I have them. - Peter [1] http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? [2] http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1646 -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
On 10/27/14, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:04:48PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: >> "Michael W. Lucas" writes: >> >> > BAH! You think you can steal my idea for supporting OpenBSD? I don't >> > think it's that easy. >> > >> > MY auction raised $1145. >> > >> > There is no way that BoPF3 can POSSIBLY raise more than that! >> > >> > Consider the gauntlet thrown. >> >> :D >> >> After two days, the highest bit lists as US $493.88, which means >> >> a) that bid was likely entered in a non-USD currency (or >>somebody has an odd sense of humor, I'm fine with both) >> >> b) we're on a pretty good trajectory for beating Mr. Lucas on >>the fundraising front > > Humpf. > > It is just BARELY possible that Mr. Hansteen's work will raise more > money than mine. If so, it will clearly be the result of nepotism, > collusion, and intrigue. > > If this happens, I'll have to write another OpenBSD book. One that > will raise EVEN MORE MONEY than this petty little BoPF3 auction. > > ==ml > >> One again, the auction is at >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? Just to give this a bump: Interesting bid patterns by two high bidders. --patrick >> The blog post with the nice pictures is at >> http://bsdly.blogspot.no/2014/10/the-book-of-pf-3rd-edition-is-here.html >> >> And if your bid turns out not to be the successful one, please make >> the amount of your highest bid a direct donation to OpenBSD instead. >> >> Even if you wouldn't consider bidding, go on, head over to >> http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html or >> http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html >> and spend some money! >> >> - Peter
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:04:48PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > "Michael W. Lucas" writes: > > > BAH! You think you can steal my idea for supporting OpenBSD? I don't > > think it's that easy. > > > > MY auction raised $1145. > > > > There is no way that BoPF3 can POSSIBLY raise more than that! > > > > Consider the gauntlet thrown. > > :D > > After two days, the highest bit lists as US $493.88, which means > > a) that bid was likely entered in a non-USD currency (or >somebody has an odd sense of humor, I'm fine with both) > > b) we're on a pretty good trajectory for beating Mr. Lucas on >the fundraising front Humpf. It is just BARELY possible that Mr. Hansteen's work will raise more money than mine. If so, it will clearly be the result of nepotism, collusion, and intrigue. If this happens, I'll have to write another OpenBSD book. One that will raise EVEN MORE MONEY than this petty little BoPF3 auction. ==ml > One again, the auction is at > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? > > The blog post with the nice pictures is at > http://bsdly.blogspot.no/2014/10/the-book-of-pf-3rd-edition-is-here.html > > And if your bid turns out not to be the successful one, please make > the amount of your highest bid a direct donation to OpenBSD instead. > > Even if you wouldn't consider bidding, go on, head over to > http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html or http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html > and spend some money! > > - Peter > -- > Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ > "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" > delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
"Michael W. Lucas" writes: > BAH! You think you can steal my idea for supporting OpenBSD? I don't > think it's that easy. > > MY auction raised $1145. > > There is no way that BoPF3 can POSSIBLY raise more than that! > > Consider the gauntlet thrown. :D After two days, the highest bit lists as US $493.88, which means a) that bid was likely entered in a non-USD currency (or somebody has an odd sense of humor, I'm fine with both) b) we're on a pretty good trajectory for beating Mr. Lucas on the fundraising front One again, the auction is at http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? The blog post with the nice pictures is at http://bsdly.blogspot.no/2014/10/the-book-of-pf-3rd-edition-is-here.html And if your bid turns out not to be the successful one, please make the amount of your highest bid a direct donation to OpenBSD instead. Even if you wouldn't consider bidding, go on, head over to http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html or http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html and spend some money! - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:23:38PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > MY auction raised $1145. > > There is no way that BoPF3 can POSSIBLY raise more than that! > > Consider the gauntlet thrown. > Nice one Michael! :-)
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:59:03AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Ebay situation resolved, the link to the auction is > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? > Peter, BAH! You think you can steal my idea for supporting OpenBSD? I don't think it's that easy. MY auction raised $1145. There is no way that BoPF3 can POSSIBLY raise more than that! Consider the gauntlet thrown. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
For what it’s worth, first bid. That and $4.00 will get me a nice cappuccino. ;-) Thanks for both the book (I received my No Starch copy a week or two ago) and for donating the signed edition to the OpenBSD Foundation. —Aaron On Oct 25, 2014, at 17:59, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Ebay situation resolved, the link to the auction is > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? > > I will look into extending the auction's lifetime toward the original > 30 days. The interface for doing so is not the most intuitive I've > encountered. > > If you do not win this auction, I strongly urge you to donate the > amount of your highest bid to the OpenBSD Foundation. > > > -- > Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ > "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" > delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
Ebay situation resolved, the link to the auction is http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Book-of-PF-3rd-ed-signed-by-the-author-First-Copy-signed-/321563281902? I will look into extending the auction's lifetime toward the original 30 days. The interface for doing so is not the most intuitive I've encountered. If you do not win this auction, I strongly urge you to donate the amount of your highest bid to the OpenBSD Foundation. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
In addition to a missing 'can' in the subject, there is a problem that the auction as outlined at first is in fact not feasible. But I'm working to fix that; for some weird reason setting up an ebay auction for this item was not straighforward, as you can glean from the updated blog entry (which also will by now show that the book has been signed, with two blanks to be filled at a future date). Some form of auction of that copy of the book where the proceeds will be forwarded to the foundation in full will go forward, but the exact how and when is still to be worked out. I will update as soon as I have useful information on this. In the meantime, if you want to donate, please go ahead. Donating will however not influence your chance of owning the first signed copy of The Book of PF, 3rd edition All the best, Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
The Book of PF, 3rd ed: You own the first author signed copy and support OpenBSD!
Hi, It's that scribe from the fjords again. Today I took delivery of my The Book of PF 3rd edition author copies, and I blogged about it: http://bsdly.blogspot.no/2014/10/the-book-of-pf-3rd-edition-is-here.html The main point here is that in cooperation with the OpenBSD Foundation I'm auctioning off the first author signed copy to whoever makes the most generous online donation between now and November 25th. The Foundation picks the winner, I send the book to their stated mailing address. More details in the blog post. Have a nice weekend, then donate, donate donate! - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: The book of PF
Pleased you're flattered ;) Found the last one to be really helpful and an enjoyable read when I was first getting into OpenBSD. HFSC is a complex algorthm and it took a *lot* of trail and error to understand all the parameters and their interactions, and so with the recent syntax changes to the queuing system I'm hoping for some nice examples and explanations of the parameters :) Keep up the good work :) Andy. On 01/05/14 20:40, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Andy writes: When is the next edition of 'The book of PF' expected? Want to read this to fully understand the new queuing subsystem before rewriting our PFs :) The Book of PF, 3rd edition is slithering through the later editing stages at the moment. I'll do my best to speed the thing along, but unfortunately I can't give you an exact ETA, other than that it's likely that you'll see my BSDCan slides on the topic before the book materializes. I'm deeply flattered and a bit horrified that anyone would see my scribblings as a prerequisite for trying out an exciting new OpenBSD feature. Thank you very much! I will do my best to make that book and other material I poduce live up to expectations (as in, being as useful and correct as I am able to make them, with the help of a few really excellent people). All the best, Peter
Re: The book of PF
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > From: Peter N. M. Hansteen > To: Andy > Cc: "misc@openbsd.org" > Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 20:40:13 > Subject: Re: The book of PF > > Andy writes: > > > When is the next edition of 'The book of PF' expected? ... > I'm deeply flattered and a bit horrified that anyone would see > my scribblings as a prerequisite for trying out an exciting new > OpenBSD feature. Well, some of us with the first two editions of the book of PF are hoping to see a pecuniary advantage here. We're hoping that, as they fade into the past, early editions will appreciate massively in value. Much as early CD releases of OpenBSD have. At least according to the prices listed at the Computer Shop of Calgary :-) -- Dennis Davis
The book of PF
Hi, When is the next edition of 'The book of PF' expected? Want to read this to fully understand the new queuing subsystem before rewriting our PFs :) Cheers, Andy.
Re: The Book of PF, second edition
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen spoke thusly: > It seems that every three years or so, I get to spam this list about a > product I'm responsible for, and in fact I hope to make it into a > tradition. > > With the syntax changes in 4.7, the book needed an overhaul. The > result is here, finally, up to date as of 4.8. I got my author's > copies yesterday, and my initial reactions can be found at > > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2010/11/book-of-pf-2nd-ed-its-here.html > > If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post, > you can go directly to the source via at least two routes: The > OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order > (with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page > at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm > > As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep > making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting. > > All the best, > Peter > > -- > Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team > http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ > "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" > delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. > Already got the pdf. Waiting on the book now. As usual, great stuff. Thanks for all the hard work. -- === Denny White - denny...@cableone.net GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === () ASCII ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ===
Re: The Book of PF, second edition
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > > If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post, > you can go directly to the source via at least two routes: The > OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order > (with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page > at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm > > As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep > making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting. > Thanks for the book :-) It is really nice I got it from the OpenBSD website a month back for the new admin struggling with pf . --Siju
The Book of PF, second edition
It seems that every three years or so, I get to spam this list about a product I'm responsible for, and in fact I hope to make it into a tradition. With the syntax changes in 4.7, the book needed an overhaul. The result is here, finally, up to date as of 4.8. I got my author's copies yesterday, and my initial reactions can be found at http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2010/11/book-of-pf-2nd-ed-its-here.html If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post, you can go directly to the source via at least two routes: The OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order (with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting. All the best, Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
The Book of PF, 2nd edition is becoming available
It hasn't quite been announced yet, but The Book of PF, 2nd ed (up to date with OpenBSD 4.8) is available now as PDF, with print copies expected to be available around November 10th. As in, at the printers right now. See http://nostarch.com/pf2.htm for details. It turned into a more extensive rewrite than I had initially anticipated, I hope you will enjoy the result. - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: "The Book of PF" exists, physical copies documented
On 12/19/07 6:05 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > I'm not directly involved in > distribution and can not make any guarantees about when you'll get > yours I checked yesterday with No Starch, and the company says "it should ship in early January." Mine's pre-ordered; looking forward to reading it. dn
Re: "The Book of PF" exists, physical copies documented
--- "Peter N. M. Hansteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I have just taken delivery of my box of /The Book of PF/[1] author's > copies, and I'm finding I'm a bit at a loss for words when it comes > to > describing the feeling. The thing exists. And it feels great to > finally see the thing for real. [...] > [1] http://nostarch.com/pf.htm Applause. / juan Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
"The Book of PF" exists, physical copies documented
Dear friends, I have just taken delivery of my box of /The Book of PF/[1] author's copies, and I'm finding I'm a bit at a loss for words when it comes to describing the feeling. The thing exists. And it feels great to finally see the thing for real. (OK, I cheated a bit and had five copies printed locally for OpenCON[2], but these are the real ones, slightly different binding) We didn't manage to release the book the same date as OpenBSD 4.2 (yes, that was the original plan), but the thing has been written, printed and should be on its way to all those who preordred as well as to better bookshops everywhere. I'm not directly involved in distribution and can not make any guarantees about when you'll get yours (a slightly more experienced author has written an explanation of that[3] - only this one was printed in Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA), but even if it's late for the holidays I hope you'll enjoy your copy and find the book useful. Now of course the usual factors interfered even with the author copies. There is a thing about courier companies and 18th century buildings. Even faced with a relatively small one such as the one I live in, DHL managed to make two attempts at delivery at the disused entrance clearly marked 'deliveries at the other door please', so the delivery finally happened at my office - also located in a 18th century building, but at least one where the DHL people have been before. But it finally arrived and life's good :) One interesting factoid (fsvo) is that this happened within hours of the twenty-five thousandth unique visitor (since EuroBSDCon 2006 that is) hitting the book's predecessor, the online PF tutorial[4]. So happy hacking holidays everyone, [1] http://nostarch.com/pf.htm, also see http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/freshbooks.jpg or (slightly faster) http://home.nuug.no/~peter/freshbooks.jpg [2] http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20071207191612 - that's me completely obscured at the back to the right in the third picture (ok, I'm in a few others ;)) [3] http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=105723966516199&w=2 [4] http://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/ -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.