Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Brodey Dover]

I’m using Cirrus Hosting based out of Toronto.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 06:30, Steve Litt  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan Thornburg said on Mon, 10 Jul 2023 03:13:46 -0700
> 
>> I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  That is,
>> I'm looking for a provider who will host my html, jpeg, css, etc.,
>> files on their web server and manage certificates and DNS entries
>> for my domain.  I don't need super-high performance (the websites
>> will be relatively small, low-traffic, and static), but I'd like a
>> provider based in Canada whose interface and "management console"
>> don't require a proprietory Windows/Mac/Android client.  Any
>> recommendations?
> 
> There are many web hosts worldwide who have all your preceding
> requirements except for being Canada based. My new web host is hosting
> me out of West Chicago, Illinois, which is pretty close to Canada if
> latency is your motive. Is there any reason you prefer a Canada based
> host?
> 
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt 
> Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm
> 

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Jonathan Thornburg]

I wrote:
> I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
> isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
> low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
> core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?

Thank you to the many people who replied, both privately and here in
misc@.  But, in hindsight I didn't express my actual question very well.
What I should have written was more like this:

  I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  That is,
  I'm looking for a provider who will host my html, jpeg, css, etc.,
  files on their web server and manage certificates and DNS entries
  for my domain.  I don't need super-high performance (the websites will
  be relatively small, low-traffic, and static), but I'd like a provider
  based in Canada whose interface and "management console" don't require
  a proprietory Windows/Mac/Android client.  Any recommendations?

I'm sorry for confusing people with my original sloppily-worded query.

thanks, ciao,
-- 
-- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" 
   currently on the west coast of Canada
   "!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH" -- slashdot.org page footer, 2022-10-16
   "eHpl !'I mrtpaep dnia P PD1 /107" -- slightly more plausible message given
 the PDP-11's little-endian byte order

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[latincom]

> I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
> isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
> low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
> core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> -- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]"
> 
>currently on the west coast of Canada
>"!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH" -- slashdot.org page footer,
> 2022-10-16
>"eHpl !'I mrtpaep dnia P PD1 /107" -- slightly more plausible message
> given
>  the PDP-11's little-endian byte
> order
>

vch.bc.ca CAN 1 /month or free!

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Stuff Received]

On 2023-07-07 01:31, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:

I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?

Thanks,


Sentex.ca offers a variety of choices -- unknown about OBSD.  (We use 
their FreeBSD.)

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Daniele B.]

I sincerelly reccomend you the software platform I'm using daily and
since 8 years or so: Digital Ocean. They still own "Best software platform 
there is around"
award at my side. They are in Toronto too (or wherever you need).

Beside the usual commercial gems, budget conscious you can build
whatever you like with they full understanding and support.

Complex stuff is not forbidden too.

But, live, you should adapt to Linux, no OpenBSD. FreeBSD was erased too.
Thought: is it bad to have local stuff different from the live deployment?
I reccomend you a custom installation of Docker then.

Indeed for one static website (but Perl?) you ahould maybe wonder about any
shared hosting offer. I know one but in North Europe.

Tags: best vps software, easie, complex stuff: yes, budget: yes

Jul 7, 2023 07:34:36 Jonathan Thornburg :

> I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
> isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
> low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
> core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> -- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" 
> 
>    currently on the west coast of Canada
>    "!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH" -- slashdot.org page footer, 2022-10-16
>    "eHpl !'I mrtpaep dnia P PD1 /107" -- slightly more plausible message given
>  the PDP-11's little-endian byte order

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Sean Kamath]

On Jul 6, 2023, at 23:09, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda  
wrote:
> vultr seems to have vps in toronto, canada and last time I checked they
> supported OpenBSD via its deployment webapp

I literally deployed a Vultr VPS with OpenBSD 7.3 last night.  Took about 10 
minutes.  I only mention it because, well, it is apropos.

Generally, I’ve found their service fairly reliable, though they occasionally 
have network maintenance, and sometimes the VPS pukes — but they are responsive 
and don’t seem to be idiots when I contact them (there was some kerfuffle about 
the VM setting for OpenBSD, but they informed ME about the issue, and worked 
with me to get them properly set at the appropriate juncture).

I have no experience with any other provider.  I’m not shilling for them 
(though the do ask you to refer people, and get some benefit, but I don’t 
care).  They just basically do what I need them to do.  And for $5/VPS (plus 
other costs for backups and snapshots, of course), it’s a fine solution for a 
personal email+dns+http setup.

Sean

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda]

On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 11:32 PM Jonathan Thornburg 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
> isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
> low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
> core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?
>
>
vultr seems to have vps in toronto, canada and last time I checked they
supported OpenBSD via its deployment webapp



> Thanks,
> --
> -- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" <
> dr.j.thornb...@gmail-pink.com>
>currently on the west coast of Canada
>"!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH" -- slashdot.org page footer,
> 2022-10-16
>"eHpl !'I mrtpaep dnia P PD1 /107" -- slightly more plausible message
> given
>  the PDP-11's little-endian byte
> order
>
>

Re: recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Steve Williams]

Hi,

Small town British Columbia here...

I know it's not what you are asking, but...

I have a Telus business plan (fiber) which gives me 2 static IP 
addresses and host it myself.  You can't do it on a "Residential" 
because some of the ports are filtered.  I had a huge battle with Telus 
over this and the only resolution was to get a business plan that 
"allows" me to run servers :(


A UPS and things are amazing.  Web (https via acme), email, nextcloud, etc.

I'm using a simple fanless system with a Canadian source 
(https://ca.protectli.com/vault-2-port/)


If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out to me.

Cheers,
Steve W.

On 06/07/2023 10:31 p.m., Jonathan Thornburg wrote:

I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?

Thanks,

recommendations for web hosting in Canada?

[Jonathan Thornburg]

I'm looking for a web hosting provider based in Canada.  Performance
isn't critical (the websites will be relatively small, static, and
low-traffic), but I'd like a firm whose customer support doesn't
core-dump if I mention Perl or OpenBSD.  Any recommendations?

Thanks,
-- 
-- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply]" 
   currently on the west coast of Canada
   "!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH" -- slashdot.org page footer, 2022-10-16
   "eHpl !'I mrtpaep dnia P PD1 /107" -- slightly more plausible message given
 the PDP-11's little-endian byte order

Re: web hosting

[Roderick]

On Wed, 15 May 2019, Gustavo Rios wrote:


I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written.
Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too?


I think, the first step is to see what you need: web hosting or server?
For what do you need ssh?

Do you need to run programs there or just store them? And are they for
the public? Perhaps you only need a public repository, there are a lot,
they offer not only storage.

Yesterday I discovered this one: http://chiselapp.com/

fossil allows you also to write a web page. See here:

https://www.fossil-scm.org

Rodrigo

Re: web hosting

[ropers]

AFAICT, devio.us has been in maintenance mode for a while now.
I'm not sure it's coming back, or is it?

On 15/05/2019, Solène Rapenne  wrote:
>
> Le 15 mai 2019 21:06, Gustavo Rios  a écrit :
>>
>> I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written.
>> Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too?
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> --
>> Pag Bem Fácil Ltda
>> www.pagbemfacil.com.br
>>
>
> You can try some community shell provider like devio.us, sdf.org or
> tilde.town
> You'll have some http space and a ssh shell.
>
>

Re: web hosting

[Solène Rapenne]

Le 15 mai 2019 21:06, Gustavo Rios  a écrit :
>
> I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written. 
> Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too? 
>
> Thanks a lot 
>
> -- 
> Pag Bem Fácil Ltda 
> www.pagbemfacil.com.br 
>

You can try some community shell provider like devio.us, sdf.org or tilde.town
You'll have some http space and a ssh shell.

Re: web hosting

[noah pugsley]

Second that. Great service, super reliable, and they donate a percentage to the 
foundation.Mischa will take care of you..‎

Sent from mobile.
  Original Message  
From: mathijs
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:12
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: web hosting

If you want to get a OpenBSD VM, I would suggest openbsd.amsterdam.


https://openbsd.amsterdam/


Cheers,


Mathijs Hengst

On 5/15/19 9:06 PM, Gustavo Rios wrote:
> I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written.
> Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too?
>
> Thanks a lot
>

Re: web hosting

[mathijs]

If you want to get a OpenBSD VM, I would suggest openbsd.amsterdam.


https://openbsd.amsterdam/


Cheers,


Mathijs Hengst

On 5/15/19 9:06 PM, Gustavo Rios wrote:

I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written.
Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too?

Thanks a lot

web hosting

[Gustavo Rios]

I am in need to host my homepage and programs i have written.
Do have any suggestion on web hosting services that alllow ssh access too?

Thanks a lot

-- 
Pag Bem Fácil Ltda
www.pagbemfacil.com.br

small web hosting

[Tomasz Marszal]

Hi Group
Lets imagine there are 4 computers and one managable switch with vlan and
qos.
the scenerio look like this



| firewall 1 + deamons (www dns webmail )  firewall 3 database
internet - switch | |pfsync   |rsync 
|pfsync   |replication
| firewall 2 + deamons (www dns webmail )  firewall 4 database


or maybe like this 

| firewall 1 + deamons (www dns webmail ) 
internet - switch | |pfsync   |rsync  
| firewall 2 + deamons (www dns webmail ) 
|
| firewall 3 database
||pfsync   |replication
| firewall 4 database

firewall 1 & 2 vlan 1
firewall 2 & 3 vlan 2

My question is scenerio 2 beter then 1 and is there a sens of doing
redundant firewall with pfsync carp rsync and duplicated servers or is it
beter to use this two computers to spred services for example firewall 1
for web and dns and second for emails.
There is no doubt db should be replicated but should i duplicate web serwer
if using raid mirroring what is beter ?
asuming i have only 4 computers and relativly slow upload link like 3-4
Mb/s. This is not the problem because the company is destined  for the
local market and serv no movies radio and music.

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Matt Bettinger]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Jan Stary  wrote:

> This is a good one again. Thanks!
>
>

Yeah!  even fwd it to a couple of buddies not on the list.  Surely
much more important things to talk about like why NFS is so fucking
slow on openbsd?

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Hugo Osvaldo Barrera]

 On 10/31/10 18:12, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.
>
> One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
> and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
> to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.
>
> I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
> how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
> for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
> perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
> many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
> I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
> also work without issue.
>
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?
>
> Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
> but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
> exists, I better use it.
>
> So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
> with .COM web applications?
>
> PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
> discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
> project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining 
> details.
> Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being 
> IPv6 only
> (it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your 
> machines),
> so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.
>
> Thanks,
> bsdmaster
>

It's a good thing we have people like you making a stand against
incompetent web hosting companies.

This list is getting funnier every day.  Good one :-)


-- 
--
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Jan Stary]

On Oct 31 17:12:17, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> 
> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.
> 
> One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
> and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
> to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.
> 
> I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
> how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
> for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
> perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
> many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
> I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
> also work without issue.
> 
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?
> 
> Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
> but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
> exists, I better use it.
> 
> So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
> with .COM web applications?
> 
> PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
> discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
> project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining 
> details.
> Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being 
> IPv6 only
> (it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your 
> machines),
> so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.
> 
> Thanks,
> bsdmaster


This is a good one again. Thanks!

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[David Coppa]

Why not filtering hushmail and living in peace again?

-david-

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Mikle Krutov]

Sir,
You Are Awesome.

> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.


-- 
Old mercenaries never die. They go to hell and regroup.

With best regards, Mikle Krutov, Bercut ltd. Technical Support department

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Tony Abernethy]

Marcos Laufer wrote

> 

> Is this a prank message?

> 



starting my very own 



Obviously I take security seriously, 

and therefore will be using OpenBSD exclusively.



One thing is bothering me though.

I hope you friendly folks would help me.



---to quote a rabbit "He don't know me do he?"

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Marcos Laufer]

Is this a prank message?


bsdmas...@hushmail.com escribiC3:

Dear Friends,

I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
will be using OpenBSD exclusively.

One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.

I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
also work without issue.

The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?

Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
exists, I better use it.

So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
with .COM web applications?

PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining 
details.
Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being 
IPv6 only
(it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your 
machines),

so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.

Thanks,
bsdmaster

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Luca Corti]

On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 18:16 -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
> Whatever works out better for you I guess. It's a great
> technology, in my opinion, specially when you take in account that it's
> 33% faster than IPv4.

Only if your router has a last generation 3D graphics chip onboard.

ciao

Luca

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Andres Perera]

2010-10-31 17:12 -0400, bsdmas...@hushmail.com:
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.

Well, FreeBSD has jails and MAC, so I'd reconsider your platform choice
if you say that security is the top priority. China adopted FreeBSD
presumably because of its security benefits. Wether the simplicity
weighs against this or not, is up to the site's peculiarities. In my
case, I choose OpenBSD because of its straightfowardness.

> One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
> and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
> to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.
> 
> I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
> how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
> for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
> perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
> many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
> I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
> also work without issue.
> 
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?
> 
> Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
> but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
> exists, I better use it.
> 
> So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
> with .COM web applications?

The last string is the tld (top-level domain) and has nothing to do with
the interpeter used by your site's scripts; e.g., ".pl" is supposed to
represent domains hosted for/from Poland, whereas ".com" domains are
usually purchased by _com_panies.

> PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
> discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
> project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining 
> details.
> Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being 
> IPv6 only
> (it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your 
> machines),
> so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.

Whatever works out better for you I guess. It's a great
technology, in my opinion, specially when you take in account that it's
33% faster than IPv4.

> Thanks,
> bsdmaster

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda]

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:12 PM,   wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.
>
> One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
> and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
> to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.
>
> I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
> how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
> for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
> perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
> many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
> I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
> also work without issue.
>
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?
>
> Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
> but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
> exists, I better use it.
>
> So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
> with .COM web applications?
>
> PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
> discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
> project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining
> details.
> Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being
> IPv6 only
> (it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your
> machines),
> so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.
>
> Thanks,
> bsdmaster
>
>

Hahahaha

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[patric conant]

I have been successfully trolled, I honestly believe this was written
sincerely by someone stupid enough to believe these things.

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM,  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
> as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
> field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
> will be using OpenBSD exclusively.
>
> One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
> and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
> to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.
>
> I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
> how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
> for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
> perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
> many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
> I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
> also work without issue.
>
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?
>
> Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
> but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
> exists, I better use it.
>
> So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
> with .COM web applications?
>
> PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
> discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
> project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining
> details.
> Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being
> IPv6 only
> (it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your
> machines),
> so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.
>
> Thanks,
> bsdmaster
>
>


-- 
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 \ /Respect for low technology.
 X Keep e-mail messages readable by any computer system.
 / \Keep it ASCII.

Re: Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[Chris Smith]

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:12 PM,   wrote:
> The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
> How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
> are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
> manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?

bsdmaster:

Use a very small software wrapper, something really micro in size (micro-soft).

You certainly are a master baiter :)

Dynamic web hosting and OpenBSD

[bsdmaster]

Dear Friends,

I am currently starting my very own hosting business,
as I'm horribly tired of all the incompetence in the
field. Obviously I take security seriously, and therefore
will be using OpenBSD exclusively.

One thing is bothering me though. I've searched the web
and the archives trying to clarify one single point, but
to no avail. I hope you friendly folks would help me.

I want to host my customers websites, but I'm unclear
how OpenBSD web scripting languages support works. I know
for a fact that the base system includes perl, so hosting
perl websites should work without issues. That is good because
many of my customers will be using domains such as domain.pl
I also see Mono is part of the ports, so domain.net should
also work without issue.

The one thing I'm unclear about is example.com domains.
How can I get OpenBSD to run .com files? I found that these
are actualy very old DOS binaries. How do other OpenBSD folks
manage them? Is it with Wine? Qemu running a stripped down XP?

Of course I could write a very good .COM wrapper for ELF I guess,
but I don't want to reinvent the wheel, so if a solution already
exists, I better use it.

So, what is this solution? Or maybe OpenBSD is not compatible yet
with .COM web applications?

PS: by the way, I am ready to offer the OpenBSD project a very good
discount, so maybe it's a good idea to move all the hosting of the
project to my new company once I've ironed out the few remaining 
details.
Service will be very good, high bandwidth and very modern, being 
IPv6 only
(it's the new version of DHCP and DNS with more addresses for your 
machines),
so very future-proof. Just contact me if you need more information.

Thanks,
bsdmaster

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Joel Wiramu Pauling]

lightty does however. So you may want to look into it over apache.

On 23/08/2010, Benny LC6fgren  wrote:
> Chris Cappuccio wrote:
>> Benny L??fgren [bl-li...@lofgren.biz] wrote:
>>> (I've long wished for a privsep apache with separate chroot():s for
>>> every virtual domain... one of these days I'm gonna have to look
>>> into it, but I suppose it's not trivial to implement or someone
>>> would have done it by now. :-) )
>> I think people do this today by just running multiple daemons, one
>  > under each uid, binding each one to a different IP (or to a different
>  > port and using a reverse proxy on port 80)
>>
>> Of course it would be convenient if the system could multiplex it for
>  > you with one master daemon
>
> Yes, that's how I currently do things too, but it's an inconvenient
> solution to the problem, mainly because Apache doesn't lend itself well
> to be run in multiple instances on the same server (and the hassle of
> needing a reverse proxy introduces another level of complexity).
>
>
> /B
>
> --
> internetlabbet.se / work:   +46 8 551 124 80  / "Words must
> Benny Lvfgren/  mobile: +46 70 718 11 90 /   be weighed,
>  /   fax:+46 8 551 124 89/not counted."
> /email:  benny -at- internetlabbet.se

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Benny Löfgren]

Chris Cappuccio wrote:

Benny L??fgren [bl-li...@lofgren.biz] wrote:

(I've long wished for a privsep apache with separate chroot():s for
every virtual domain... one of these days I'm gonna have to look
into it, but I suppose it's not trivial to implement or someone
would have done it by now. :-) )

I think people do this today by just running multiple daemons, one

> under each uid, binding each one to a different IP (or to a different
> port and using a reverse proxy on port 80)


Of course it would be convenient if the system could multiplex it for

> you with one master daemon

Yes, that's how I currently do things too, but it's an inconvenient 
solution to the problem, mainly because Apache doesn't lend itself well 
to be run in multiple instances on the same server (and the hassle of 
needing a reverse proxy introduces another level of complexity).



/B

--
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Benny Lvfgren/  mobile: +46 70 718 11 90 /   be weighed,
/   fax:+46 8 551 124 89/not counted."
   /email:  benny -at- internetlabbet.se

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Chris Cappuccio]

Benny L??fgren [bl-li...@lofgren.biz] wrote:
> 
> (I've long wished for a privsep apache with separate chroot():s for
> every virtual domain... one of these days I'm gonna have to look
> into it, but I suppose it's not trivial to implement or someone
> would have done it by now. :-) )
> 
> 

I think people do this today by just running multiple daemons, one under each 
uid, binding each one to a different IP (or to a different port and using a 
reverse proxy on port 80)

Of course it would be convenient if the system could multiplex it for you with 
one master daemon

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[openbsd]

Thank a lot for your reply.

Now, it works, what i done :
All users (firstorg,2ndcom,thirdnet are members of users)
cd /var/www/domains
chown -R firstorg www.first.org
chown -R 2ndcom www.2nd.com
chown -R third.net www.third.net
chgrp -R users *
chmod -R 745 *

Now, user "2ndcom" can only view, modify only his folder "www.2nd.com"

** And for MTA choice, i will try to install postfix ;-)

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Lars Nooden]

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:

i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload ...


You may wish to reconsider that and use sshd's built in chroot with sftp.
Easier to set up and use.  A lot of people 'ask' for FTP by name meaning 
a generic way to up load.  Even lame clients like Filezilla work with 
SFTP.


/Lars

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Stuart Henderson]

If you have already setup each user in /etc/ftpchroot, then it sounds
like you haven't set the home directories correctly in the user accounts.

On 2010-08-13,   wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
> So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) : 
> www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
> www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
> www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
>
> All web pages are stored in /var/www/domains/
> So in /var/www/domains we have 3 folders :
> www.first.xx folder (owner : firstxx ; chmod 755)
> www.2nd.xx folder (owner : 2ndxx ; chmod 755)
> www.third.xx folder (owner : thirdxx ; chmod 755)
>
> i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
> configured).
> My problem, user can see content of others.
> For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
> "firstxx" folder.
> How can i restrict that ?
> thank's.

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Benny Löfgren]

Daniel Ouellet wrote:

i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
configured).
My problem, user can see content of others.
For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the 
content of

"firstxx" folder.
How can i restrict that ?


Well, you could setup no login in the master.passwd for that user and 
assign the home directory to their web site folder. They will change 
root to that and can't get out of it via ftp.




Or use for example PureFTPd which have similar functionality built-in 
and can be used with *SQL or LDAP authentication so there would be no 
need to use actual unix accounts.


That approach works only, however, if the web server isn't set up to run 
 CGI scripts or some scripting language like PHP, in which case it is a 
piece of cake to write a script to look around in apaches entire 
chroot():ed environment.


(I've long wished for a privsep apache with separate chroot():s for 
every virtual domain... one of these days I'm gonna have to look into 
it, but I suppose it's not trivial to implement or someone would have 
done it by now. :-) )



/B

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Benny LC6fgren/  mobile: +46 70 718 11 90 /   be weighed,
/   fax:+46 8 551 124 89/not counted."
   /email:  benny -at- internetlabbet.se

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Bret S. Lambert]

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:04:56AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
> So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) : 
> www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
> www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
> www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
> 
> All web pages are stored in /var/www/domains/
> So in /var/www/domains we have 3 folders :
> www.first.xx folder (owner : firstxx ; chmod 755)
> www.2nd.xx folder (owner : 2ndxx ; chmod 755)
> www.third.xx folder (owner : thirdxx ; chmod 755)
> 
> i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
> configured).
> My problem, user can see content of others.
> For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
> "firstxx" folder.
> How can i restrict that ?

Somewhere between the monitor_init and yyparse calls in ftpd.c

> thank's.

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Daniel Ouellet]

i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
configured).
My problem, user can see content of others.
For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
"firstxx" folder.
How can i restrict that ?


Well, you could setup no login in the master.passwd for that user and 
assign the home directory to their web site folder. They will change 
root to that and can't get out of it via ftp.

Re: Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[Joachim Schipper]

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:04:56AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
> So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) : 
> www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
> www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
> www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
> 
> All web pages are stored in /var/www/domains/
> So in /var/www/domains we have 3 folders :
> www.first.xx folder (owner : firstxx ; chmod 755)
> www.2nd.xx folder (owner : 2ndxx ; chmod 755)
> www.third.xx folder (owner : thirdxx ; chmod 755)
> 
> i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
> configured).
> My problem, user can see content of others.
> For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
> "firstxx" folder.
> How can i restrict that ?

Look into suexec, something other than Apache, or one of PHP's built-in
mechanisms. Note that suexec is slow, Apache is standard for a reason,
and PHP's security record is pretty bad.

Joachim

Web hosting, restrict user to access only his folder

[openbsd]

Hi,

I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) : 
www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)

All web pages are stored in /var/www/domains/
So in /var/www/domains we have 3 folders :
www.first.xx folder (owner : firstxx ; chmod 755)
www.2nd.xx folder (owner : 2ndxx ; chmod 755)
www.third.xx folder (owner : thirdxx ; chmod 755)

i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
configured).
My problem, user can see content of others.
For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
"firstxx" folder.
How can i restrict that ?
thank's.

Re: openbsd web hosting

[Chris Bennett]

On 05/10/10 12:19, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:

Hello,

I need some infos about web hosting companies that offer openbsd based
web hosting, please.
The other requests are apache, php, postgresql and maybe mysql, decent
monthly fee ( 5 - 10 euro /month).
I got some google hits, but I trust some suggestions made here.

Thanks


In the US, I use corenetworks.net

I have an older model that costs $24.95 a month
The new low end is $29.95 month.
They also offer higher end, more bandwidth options.
Includes IP-KVM and remote power.

They offer the above as preinstalled or you may install all remotely 
yourself (You may use ANY operating system)

openbsd web hosting

[Mihai Popescu B.S.]

Hello,

I need some infos about web hosting companies that offer openbsd based
web hosting, please.
The other requests are apache, php, postgresql and maybe mysql, decent
monthly fee ( 5 - 10 euro /month).
I got some google hits, but I trust some suggestions made here.

Thanks

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[Info]

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Re: Dedicated OpenBSD web hosting.

[Gilles Chehade]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 01:56:11PM -0600, Francisco Valladolid wrote:
> Hi folks.
> 
> Dedicated OpenBSD web Hosting ?,  In the past this theme has been too
> discussed.
> Now I want to know if some people have experience using some OpenBSD web
> hosting in dedicated enviroment such as www.servepronto.com or some other.
> if any, please let me know, I'm searching a good service running OpenBSD for
> migrate a old Linux server.
> 
> Best Regards.
> 

I started a thread similar to yours a few months ago as I was trying several
companies to host a dedicated server running OpenBSD. I was told that
layeredtech was real nice and well ... they really rock ;-)

-- 
veins @ { epitech } - futur ancien - ex-astek en metal
http://www.evilkittens.org

Re: Dedicated OpenBSD web hosting.

[Jason Beaudoin]

> On 2/5/07, Francisco Valladolid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks.
> >
> > Dedicated OpenBSD web Hosting ?,  In the past this theme has been too
> > discussed.
> > Now I want to know if some people have experience using some OpenBSD web
> > hosting in dedicated enviroment such as www.servepronto.com or some
> > other.
> > if any, please let me know, I'm searching a good service running OpenBSD
> > for
> > migrate a old Linux server
>
>

If it has been "too discussed," why are we discussing it any further? Do you
have specific questions or issues that you are having difficulty with?


Regards,
Jason

Dedicated OpenBSD web hosting.

[Francisco Valladolid]

Hi folks.

Dedicated OpenBSD web Hosting ?,  In the past this theme has been too
discussed.
Now I want to know if some people have experience using some OpenBSD web
hosting in dedicated enviroment such as www.servepronto.com or some other.
if any, please let me know, I'm searching a good service running OpenBSD for
migrate a old Linux server.

Best Regards.


-- 
---
2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV)
---
Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{Open}{Net}BSD user.
http://blog.bsdguy.net

Re: WHM ( Web Hosting Management) in OpenBSD

[Sevan / Venture37]

sonjaya wrote:
> i have already open  that link but nothing haven't
> 
>>
>> openisp??
>>
>> www.openisp.org

Sorry my bad,
try http://www.openisp.net/


-- 
"The truth, the half-truth, and nothing like the truth." - Mark Brandon Read

Re: WHM ( Web Hosting Management) in OpenBSD

[sonjaya]

i have already open  that link but nothing haven't



openisp??

www.openisp.org

--
"The truth, the half-truth, and nothing like the truth." - Mark Brandon Read





--
-sonjaya-

Re: WHM ( Web Hosting Management) in OpenBSD

[Sevan / Venture37]

sonjaya wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> Any body here have install GPL WHM ( Web Hosting Management ) in
> OpenBSD such as ISP config , i have plant to use OpenBSD for
> WebHosting .
> Mya be can be give some success story instal WHM ( IN GPL ) OpenBSD.
> 
> -sonjaya-

openisp??

www.openisp.org

-- 
"The truth, the half-truth, and nothing like the truth." - Mark Brandon Read

WHM ( Web Hosting Management) in OpenBSD

[sonjaya]

Dear all

Any body here have install GPL WHM ( Web Hosting Management ) in
OpenBSD such as ISP config , i have plant to use OpenBSD for
WebHosting .
Mya be can be give some success story instal WHM ( IN GPL ) OpenBSD.

-sonjaya-