Re: [MMouse]: elliot sucks
OMG!!! for a second there i thought you were goin to say elliott smith sucks and i was goin to shit a brick :) love mike >From: Andrew Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: elliot sucks >Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:25:30 -0500 > >wow, sorry to get defensive here..and to make such a statement...but elliot >really does suck...not only am i not a hige fan of their music (not bad but >certainly overrated) but when i went to go see them i new hampshire they >had really shitty attitudes about certain things..like they made fun of new >hampshire soo badit was a small place they >played at and thge sound system wasnt so great and they were like "sorry >for the technical difficulties, but what do you expect from new hampshire?" >and they went on to make some pretty innapropriate remarks about how all >people from enw hampshire are hicks and complete morons. needless to say >they did not get the warmest reception after that. oh >well. DONT SUPPORT ASSHOLE ROCK! >love >andrew > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: best live
well i've yet to see modest mouse live yet due to the fact that the last time they made it all the way out to atlanta, i was out of town. curse my luck. i do go to quite a few shows though. my favorite live bands would be, in no particular order. FUGAZI, don caballero, at the drive-in, the make-up, tool, hayden. yes indeed. check out my webpage at http://www.come.to/deadwinter thanks, blake b.
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n725
Most people are way off base when they say a band is selling out. But I think it would be a fun contest to come up with a list of the most sell-out bands of all time. My vote would have to go for Metallica. I mean they were a great coked out metal band, at the fore front of that genre, and then out of no where, they become ALTERNATIVE. Yuck. The Get Up Kids are fun and all but I wouldn't say they are sell-outs. There music has never changed much, maybe gotten tighter. I like their music but that video is aweful. andy xoxo
[MMouse]: live bands
On the live band tip, the first shows that come to mind are My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult and Faith No More, both in the early or mid nineties. Those first few real shows that you see in highschool almost become legendary in your head. The first time I saw modest mouse they kicked booty the second time they were too drunk on halloween. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: reply to yur poetry
thank you phil for that ever so poetic reply..sheesh...and in answer to yur questions .precisely ~*tanNer*~ *someone who doesn't watch mtv* In a message dated 3/7/00 8:49:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is this "selling out" thing you speak of? Is that when a band starts to make enough money that they don't have to live off of ramen noodles and generic boxes of macaroni & cheese? Is that when a band decides that they don't want to have to worry about working day jobs anymore as telemarketers or short order cooks or petroleum transferral technicians? Is that when a band gets a video on MTV and wants to get popular enough that they can pay back the money that they owe their record company for studio time, promotion, booking, touring, and other expenses so that they can begin to pay their bills again? Is that when a band begins to gain the appreciation and respect they deserve as an excellent group of musicians instead of simply being relegated to the best kept secret list for the elitest yearnings of a few hundred scenesters? I think if people spent as much time SUPPORTING a band with their time and money as they do worrying about a band's indie cred quotient, then every worthy group wouldn't have to go hungry or even break up to find work that pays for housing, clothing, and sustenance. Kids who watch MTV are worried about bands selling out? *phiL* >>
[Fwd: [MMouse]: Selling Out]
Oh yeah! almost forgot, another band that did this without "selling out" is Pavement! To me selling out is when a band quits making music for themselves and makes it for either their fans, record company, critics, nookie, or just plain out to make money. I for one am all for bands getting appreciated for their talents and getting paid and laid. Such bands who did this without selling out are (again to me) Nirvana, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, Pantera (metal bands are good at this besides metallica), and such. This is why I plan to support MM all the fucking way when they go big..'cause we all know they will. -John Philip Smoker wrote: > > has anyone else noticed that the Get Up > > Kids are starting to really sell out in a way > > ...their first album was great, but after seeing the > > video for action & action, i can't bring myself to > > listen to Something to Write Home about > > What is this "selling out" thing you speak of? > > Is that when a band starts to make enough money that > they don't have to live off of ramen noodles and > generic boxes of macaroni & cheese? > > Is that when a band decides that they don't want to > have to worry about working day jobs anymore as > telemarketers or short order cooks or petroleum > transferral technicians? > > Is that when a band gets a video on MTV and wants to > get popular enough that they can pay back the money > that they owe their record company for studio time, > promotion, booking, touring, and other expenses so > that they can begin to pay their bills again? > > Is that when a band begins to gain the appreciation > and respect they deserve as an excellent group of > musicians instead of simply being relegated to the > best kept secret list for the elitest yearnings of a > few hundred scenesters? > > I think if people spent as much time SUPPORTING a band > with their time and money as they do worrying about a > band's indie cred quotient, then every worthy group > wouldn't have to go hungry or even break up to find > work that pays for housing, clothing, and sustenance. > > Kids who watch MTV are worried about bands selling > out? > > *phiL* > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [MMouse]: stuff and best shows
not to be an ass about it, but if we skip buying gas from april 7-9, wont we just end up buying it on the tenth? What i mean is that, i think its going to have to be our voices rather than our actions that lower gas prices, these oil barrons are going to get our money no matter what. The only thing that is gonna change is what day they get it on. -- Dustin "keep your lamp light trimmed and burning" -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: stuff and best shows >Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2000, 6:14 PM > > The best band to see live is Ben Folds Five...the energy that they > have...it's so great to see a band have that much fun on stage... i highly > recommend seeing them if you can > > also, was modest mouse in 120 minutes or something? i saw a post referring to > the show, but i couldnt find the post it was in response to...i have not > checked my mail in a while > > One more thing for now, that i will probably post more than once > There Is a GAS STRIKE april 7-9 > Dont buy gas on these days as an effort to lower ridiculous gas prices... > Tell everyone you know about this so it works...thanks > > > Anna >
Re: [MMouse]: expressed concern
>minutesblahapart from them being on MTV!, they expressed >WANTING >to be on TRL every secondi dunno...did anyone else see that? um, I saw that show. I think your confusing that whole conversation where the new guy said something along the lines of "Oh, I though you guys might be too cool to be on this show" and they replied by saying how they always wanted to be on 120 minutes. I don't remember a single thing being said about TRL. So, no need to be concerned. All is well. You can sleep now. Emily __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music
Yeah...Mouse and the Dismemberment plan are the only two bands I've ever heard that play soft at first, and then play loud. Nobody else writes songs about girls either. Sorry if that sounded mean. ___ Ben Hubbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > although the 'sound' isnt exactly the same in the way the mouse and pixies > sound similar, i often find similarities between the feelings given off by > the mouse and the dismemberment plan. mainly the transitions from calm, > serene songs to frantic and bewildered. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music" 000307-08:57 > > i'm just new to this list too, but one band that i've found is fairly > > similar to modest mouse is the pixies. you might not recognize it right > > away, but the influence is definitely there. > > > > -- > ben >
[MMouse]: the get up kids
Lord, if i hear of one more person that labels the get up kids "sell outs", i'll just shoot myself. They are an amazing band, they are going to get big. And what exactly are they "selling out" to? Did they promise all the kids that watched them play in basements back in the day that some day they would reject mtv if they had the chance, or tell people not to like them if they became unbelievably popular? Too many people try to break bands down with the "sell out" shit. I don't know what there reasoning is.. maybe it's that they fear that the band will become far from there "awesome secret" that few people know about, or they won't get to see them for 8 bucks anymore... but whatever, be happy for them. As for the albums though, i do like their older stuff better, but they are still good. Anyway, to finish they most likely worked really hard to get where they are. So just try not be as concerned. .jacqueline. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
RE: [MMouse]: stuff and best shows
<> yeah..cause the last one did so much. I'm all for fighting the power, and what not, but market demand pressures will eventually force the oil prices back down to reasonable levels, a gas strike will not. As long as one geographic portion of world controls so much of such a precious recourse, fluxuations like this are inevitable. If you want to have any kind of impact on market forces, stop using gas, don't stop buying it in spits and spurts, you just end up looking silly. Mark ~the steel of freedom does not stain.
[MMouse]: Selling Out
> has anyone else noticed that the Get Up > Kids are starting to really sell out in a way > ...their first album was great, but after seeing the > video for action & action, i can't bring myself to > listen to Something to Write Home about What is this "selling out" thing you speak of? Is that when a band starts to make enough money that they don't have to live off of ramen noodles and generic boxes of macaroni & cheese? Is that when a band decides that they don't want to have to worry about working day jobs anymore as telemarketers or short order cooks or petroleum transferral technicians? Is that when a band gets a video on MTV and wants to get popular enough that they can pay back the money that they owe their record company for studio time, promotion, booking, touring, and other expenses so that they can begin to pay their bills again? Is that when a band begins to gain the appreciation and respect they deserve as an excellent group of musicians instead of simply being relegated to the best kept secret list for the elitest yearnings of a few hundred scenesters? I think if people spent as much time SUPPORTING a band with their time and money as they do worrying about a band's indie cred quotient, then every worthy group wouldn't have to go hungry or even break up to find work that pays for housing, clothing, and sustenance. Kids who watch MTV are worried about bands selling out? *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n724
best shows: shudder to think. as i've said before, nathan and craig make this straight, married little boy question his sexuality. hot damn! godspeed you black emperor w/labradford and scarnella . . . just something you have to experience to even begin to comprehend, really. juno, opening for modest mouse at the redmond fire house about three years ago . . . there were three other bad, tiresome bands that played before juno, so i didn't bother to hear them, until the last two songs of their set. . .and it still stands as one of the greatest show experiences of all time. modest mouse left after three songs, so that wasn't very exciting. jawbox, opening for stone temple pilots at the gorge in washington. . . a transforming experience. modest mouse, fighting hecklers from the stage, opening for i fergit? and gas huffer back in 96 (? it was about half a year before long drive... was released). . . the realization that i was watching something truly amazing, even as the rest of the crowd was flipping them off. viva la punk rock or something. it's good to see that i fergit? (who made some slightly disparaging comment about the mouse upon taking the stage) never made it anywhere. star
[MMouse]: stuff and best shows
The best band to see live is Ben Folds Five...the energy that they have...it's so great to see a band have that much fun on stage... i highly recommend seeing them if you can also, was modest mouse in 120 minutes or something? i saw a post referring to the show, but i couldnt find the post it was in response to...i have not checked my mail in a while One more thing for now, that i will probably post more than once There Is a GAS STRIKE april 7-9 Dont buy gas on these days as an effort to lower ridiculous gas prices... Tell everyone you know about this so it works...thanks Anna
Re: [MMouse]: expressed concern
120 mins isnt that bad, promise ring was on there as well, and they sometimes play a refused video here or there. so what im saying is maybe you shouldnt equate 120 mins with selling out. Get Up Kids are indeed getting rather popular, but no more than your pavements or your built to spills. if they get more poppy, so be it. Plus with their growing popularity they are doing some damn good things on the side, Heroes and Villians (their label) has put out some good music in the past couple months, i cant seem to get anniversary out of my stereo or my head. so there is my argument supporting the GUK. Now here is the one thing i must complain about -When the played here in philly earlier in the year they rolled up to the First Unitarian Church in a grand ole tour bus. Most bands on major labels dont have tour buses, whats up with that? -- Dustin "keep your lamp light trimmed and burning" -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: expressed concern >Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2000, 5:14 PM > > i don't know if it's just me, buthas anyone else noticed that the Get Up > Kids are starting to really sell out in a way..i saw them on mtv's 120 > minutesblahapart from them being on MTV!, they expressed WANTING > to be on TRL every secondi dunno...did anyone else see that? if you > did..pleeease tell me they were just kidding (or that you think they > were)...their first album was great, but after seeing the video for action & > action, i can't bring myself to listen to Something to Write Home > abouthconcerned > > ~*tanNer*~ > > *june of '44 is great >
[MMouse]: expressed concern
i don't know if it's just me, buthas anyone else noticed that the Get Up Kids are starting to really sell out in a way..i saw them on mtv's 120 minutesblahapart from them being on MTV!, they expressed WANTING to be on TRL every secondi dunno...did anyone else see that? if you did..pleeease tell me they were just kidding (or that you think they were)...their first album was great, but after seeing the video for action & action, i can't bring myself to listen to Something to Write Home abouthconcerned ~*tanNer*~ *june of '44 is great
[MMouse]: oh my golly
The best show ever was Man or Astro-man at the Metro in chicago way back in dec.96. And although the current man or astro man is still amazingly great live, they were even better then. They had so much energy and humour... it was great. i cant describe the pure fun they bring to a show. granted, they arnt top-notch music artistically but as far as rocknroll fun goes theyre the best. Another great live band is Rocket From The Crypt and of course Nirvana... __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: elliot sucks
all i can say is...you are fucked in the head..elliott is the most gracious and polite band I have ever met...they have put me up in their apartment/loft for days on end, bought me dinner, been just amazingly polite and generousthey are so anti-asshole rock it's not even funnymaybe you/they had a bad nightbut you could not be further from the truth and am a huge supporter of them...they are so humble it's not even patheticbefore you jump out there and put your nuts in your mouth i think you should know who your really talking about... chris
[MMouse]: boys boys boys
Could someone please tell me (I know I should have been paying better attention) what the address to the MM boys page is? have there been any updates to either page recently? thank you *jae* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music
Yes, Modest Mouse is blatantly influenced by the Pixies, lyrics as well as music composition. It was really good to hear someone mention The Feelings. Great band, similar at times I guess, but a completely different level of appreciation. As far as other bands that sound like Modest Mouse, there are going to be the ones that you'll hear very often like Red Stars Theory, 764-HERO, Built to Spill, Pavement... and thats what comes to me quickly. I'm sure others will respond to this with a more extensive list. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[MMouse]: memory lane
> No, but I do miss Dave Kendall... > > Jaded, old and bitter (at 19), > > Karina You were watching 120 Minutes when you were 11? Precocious young lady... *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[MMouse]: Upcoming Red Carpet Ring Shows...
Hey everyone! Just a reminder about some very exciting shows coming up this week at the wonderful Flywheel in Easthampton, MA. Tuesday, March 8th 8:00 PM, the Brittle Stars (Shelflife), the Musical Chairs (Harriet), and My Place in Space (Red Carpet Ring) Saturday March 11th (Matinee Show) 2:00 PM Calvin Johnson (K), the Princeton Reverbs Colonial (Red Carpet Ring) and other special guests. We have made up more copies of the s/t My Place In Space debut cassette and the "A Bunch of Beatniks Riding A Rocket" comp to sell at these shows. Most likely these will be the last copies ever made up, so if you haven't gotten these releases before, here is your chance! Also at the March 11th show, we will have a selection of Happy Happy Birthday to Me releases for sale including the new issue of Bee's Knees and the new cassette comp, as well as the issue before that which comes with an excellent CD compilation featuring Elf Power, The Masters of The Hemisphere, Marshmallow Coast, and many more great bands... Hope to see some of you guys at these shows! If you make it please come say "Hi!". Take Care, Darren r e d c a r p e t r i n g http://www.redcarpetring.com/
Re: [MMouse]: FRANK BLACK PICS
Maybe this is my misunderstanding, but the only person that the ticket guy AND the soundboard guy would ask is Mike, who said NO WAY to cameras or recording devices. I went to Eugene the next night and one guy is at the soundboard and my friend is all over taking pictures of the band. They didn't care as long as we were not video taping. So H. Guess I'll have to walk the talk and set up an apppointment with Mike. Thanks for the scrutiny. Ryan >>> Jason McQuilliams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/06/00 07:05PM >>> > Mike Thrasher (a local promoter) doesn't allow cameras or recording devices at any >of his shows. this statement isn't true, i bring my camera and/or recorder to "thrasher presents" shows all the time. i've even spoken to mike about it in the past, and he said it's a rule that bands have to request... i wish i could have made it to that show...! jason.
RE: [MMouse]: elliot sucks
<> Maybe they just didn't like New Hampshire..I can understand the sentiment. Mark
Re: [MMouse]: elliot sucks
BASTARDS! i'll have their heads on stakes! russ <--- complete moron hick Andrew Hager wrote: > played at and thge sound system wasnt so great and they were like "sorry for the >technical difficulties, but what do you expect from new hampshire?" and they went on >to make some pretty innapropriate remarks about how all people from enw hampshire are >hicks and complete morons. needless to say they did not get the warmest reception >after that. oh
[MMouse]: elliot sucks
wow, sorry to get defensive here..and to make such a statement...but elliot really does suck...not only am i not a hige fan of their music (not bad but certainly overrated) but when i went to go see them i new hampshire they had really shitty attitudes about certain things..like they made fun of new hampshire soo badit was a small place they played at and thge sound system wasnt so great and they were like "sorry for the technical difficulties, but what do you expect from new hampshire?" and they went on to make some pretty innapropriate remarks about how all people from enw hampshire are hicks and complete morons. needless to say they did not get the warmest reception after that. oh well. DONT SUPPORT ASSHOLE ROCK! love andrew
Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music
although the 'sound' isnt exactly the same in the way the mouse and pixies sound similar, i often find similarities between the feelings given off by the mouse and the dismemberment plan. mainly the transitions from calm, serene songs to frantic and bewildered. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music" 000307-08:57 > i'm just new to this list too, but one band that i've found is fairly > similar to modest mouse is the pixies. you might not recognize it right > away, but the influence is definitely there. > -- ben
Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse-ish music
i'm just new to this list too, but one band that i've found is fairly similar to modest mouse is the pixies. you might not recognize it right away, but the influence is definitely there. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
