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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Neil Jaworski

Hi Kirby
I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most of 
the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
dealing via being collectors themselves.
Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and what 
would you collect if you did?
Cheers
Neil

From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Neil, et al

I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
But that did not work out and I started selling posters.

The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
owns thousands of them.  

I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.

I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.

Every poster that I have may be purchased.

Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from the
MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.

Best,
Kirby

On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:

quid pro quo agent mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.
>
>
>not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?
>
>
>what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.
>
>
>
>
>;-)
>
>
>
>
> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
>Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
>Were the teasers for this film 27x40?
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Kirby
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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became 
dealers they stopped collecting.

the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:

Hi Kirby
I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I 
suspect most of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a 
lot of dealers got into dealing via being collectors themselves.
Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a 
collection and what would you collect if you did?

Cheers
Neil


From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Neil, et al

I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
But that did not work out and I started selling posters.

The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
owns thousands of them.

I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.

I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.

Every poster that I have may be purchased.

Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from the
MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.

Best,
Kirby



On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:


quid pro quo agent mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.

not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?

what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.


;-)


From: Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.net>
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Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Were the teasers for this film 27x40?

Any help appreciated.

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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Kirby McDaniel

Exactly.  Thanks, Rich, for answering this.  I think for me, as a dealer, it's 
better to have one head
rather than two.  Apologies to Lambert, Hendricks and Ross!

Kirby

On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:14 AM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:

> I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
> they stopped collecting.
> the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.
> 
> 
> At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>> Hi Kirby
>> I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most 
>> of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
>> dealing via being collectors themselves.
>> Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and 
>> what would you collect if you did?
>> Cheers
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>> Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>> 
>> Neil, et al
>> 
>> I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
>> I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
>> Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
>> I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
>> my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
>> and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
>> But that did not work out and I started selling posters.
>> 
>> The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
>> am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
>> owns thousands of them.  
>> 
>> I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
>> a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.
>> 
>> I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Every poster that I have may be purchased.
>> 
>> Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
>> people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from the
>> MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kirby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>> 
>>> quid pro quo agent mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.
>>> 
>>> not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?
>>> 
>>> what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
>>> Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>> 
>>> Were the teasers for this film 27x40?
>>> 
>>> Any help appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Kirby
>>> 
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[MOPO] FA: Heritage has WWI Posters, Flying Ace, King of the Wild, Taxi Driver, On the Waterfront, La Dolce Vita, 3 Godfathers, Teenage Thunder, more

2012-02-17 Thread Carteron, Bruce - 1551

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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread allen day

Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.

To wit:

If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing that 
task from an 'empty wagon'.

If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a virtual 
entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.

Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
of wares.

If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory 
(the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.

If the prospective dealer has a poor business model/retires/divorces/dies/loses 
interest, that is why the auction business exists/thrives.

BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
the shirt off my back).

ad



 From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
 

I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became
dealers they stopped collecting.
the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:

Hi Kirby
>I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect
most of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of
dealers got into dealing via being collectors themselves.
>Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a
collection and what would you collect if you did?
>Cheers
>Neil
>
>
>From: Kirby McDaniel 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE
LAMBS
>
>Neil, et al
>
>I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first
time
>I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
>Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
>I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I
bought
>my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that
lot
>and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in
particular.
>But that did not work out and I started selling posters.
>
>The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
>am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
>owns thousands of them.  
>
>I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
>a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.
>
>I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.
>
>Every poster that I have may be purchased.
>
>Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
>people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from
the
>MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.
>
>Best,
>Kirby
>
>
>
>On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>
>
>quid pro quo agent
mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.
>>
>>not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?
>>
>>what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.
>>
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>
>>From: Kirby McDaniel

>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
>>Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE
LAMBS
>>
>>Were the teasers for this film 27x40?
>>
>>Any help appreciated.
>>
>>Kirby
>>
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Re: [MOPO] poster design

2012-02-17 Thread Richard Del Belso


Love it!

Richard Del Belso
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:07:54 -0500
From: pcontar...@triad.rr.com
Subject: [MOPO] poster design
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Poster design: http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=24068 very funny Peter 
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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Kirby McDaniel

Allen et al,

I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect about 
all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
posters and sells to support
is habit, is a collector.
You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
I am not personally a collector.
I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal collection.  
It's not for sale."
On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At one 
time I wanted to
start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name 
of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
admire certain types of posters enormously I
have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

Kirby


On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:

> Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
> be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
> 
> To wit:
> 
> If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
> that task from an 'empty wagon'.
> 
> If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a 
> virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
> 
> Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
> of wares.
> 
> If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
> clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. 
> Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors 
> his future purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.
> 
> If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
> model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
> exists/thrives.
> 
> BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
> the shirt off my back).
> 
> ad
> 
> From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
> I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
> they stopped collecting.
> the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.
> 
> 
> At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>> Hi Kirby
>> I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most 
>> of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
>> dealing via being collectors themselves.
>> Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and 
>> what would you collect if you did?
>> Cheers
>> Neil
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>> Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>> 
>> Neil, et al
>> 
>> I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
>> I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
>> Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
>> I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
>> my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
>> and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
>> But that did not work out and I started selling posters.
>> 
>> The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
>> am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
>> owns thousands of them.  
>> 
>> I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
>> a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.
>> 
>> I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Every poster that I have may be purchased.
>> 
>> Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
>> people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from the
>> MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kirby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>> 
>>> quid pro quo agent mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.
>>> 
>>> not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?
>>> 
>>> what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
>>> Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>> 
>>> Were the teasers for this film 27x40?
>>> 
>>> Any help appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Kirby
>>> 
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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread allen day

To-may-to, to-mah-to ...

but, I do see your point regarding personal effects (not for sale) vs. business 
inventory.

ad


 From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
 

Allen et al,

I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect about 
all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
posters and sells to support
is habit, is a collector.
You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
I am not personally a collector.
I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal collection.  
It's not for sale."
On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At one 
time I wanted to
start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name 
of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
admire certain types of posters enormously I
have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

Kirby



On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:

Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
>
>
>To wit:
>
>
>If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
>that task from an 'empty wagon'.
>
>
>If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a virtual 
>entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
>
>
>Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
>of wares.
>
>
>If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
>clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory 
>(the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
>purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.
>
>
>If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
>model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
>exists/thrives.
>
>
>BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
>the shirt off my back).
>
>
>ad
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
>
>I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became
dealers they stopped collecting.
>the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.
>
>
>At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>
>Hi Kirby
>>I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect
most of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of
dealers got into dealing via being collectors themselves.
>>Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a
collection and what would you collect if you did?
>>Cheers
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>From: Kirby McDaniel 
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE
LAMBS
>>
>>Neil, et al
>>
>>I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first
time
>>I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
>>Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
>>I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I
bought
>>my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that
lot
>>and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in
particular.
>>But that did not work out and I started selling posters.
>>
>>The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
>>am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
>>owns thousands of them.  
>>
>>I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
>>a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.
>>
>>I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.
>>
>>Every poster that I have may be purchased.
>>
>>Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
>>people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from
the
>>MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.
>>
>>Best,
>>Kirby
>>
>>
>>
>>On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>>
>>
>>quid pro quo agent
mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.
>>>
>>>not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?
>>>
>>>what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.
>>>
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Kirby McDaniel

>>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>>Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
>>>Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE
LAMBS
>>>
>>>Were the t

Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread John Waldman

So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?  
I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing 
with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better 
understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, and 
have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I like 
it.  
I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a 
camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they 
consider "wares".
I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car from 
a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I guess.

But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether 
it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.
JW

From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Allen et al, 

I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect about 
all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
posters and sells to support
is habit, is a collector.
You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
I am not personally a collector.
I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal collection.  
It's not for sale."
On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At one 
time I wanted to
start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name 
of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
admire certain types of posters enormously I
have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

Kirby

On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:

Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
>
>
>To wit:
>
>
>If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
>that task from an 'empty wagon'.
>
>
>If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a virtual 
>entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
>
>
>Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
>of wares.
>
>
>If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
>clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory 
>(the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
>purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.
>
>
>If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
>model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
>exists/thrives.
>
>
>BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
>the shirt off my back).
>
>
>ad
>
>
>
>
>From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>
>
>I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
>they stopped collecting.
>the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.
>
>
>At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>
>Hi Kirby
>>I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most 
>>of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
>>dealing via being collectors themselves.
>>Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and 
>>what would you collect if you did?
>>Cheers
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>From: Kirby McDaniel 
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>
>>Neil, et al
>>
>>I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
>>I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
>>Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
>>I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
>>my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
>>and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
>>But that did not work out and I started selling posters.
>>
>>The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
>>am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
>>owns thousands of them.  
>>
>>I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
>>a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.
>>
>>I think that, for me, this would be a bad id

Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Adler

Hi -

I've been a collector since 1957 - I was 9 - I bugged my local theater manager
for the insert from I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF.
I saw the material as religious icons and saved this sacred material from trash
bins across North Carolina.
Never knew anyone else collected posters until I was 19 and passed a movie
poster store in Wasthington - I almost fainted.
Been a dealer since the early-to-mid 1970's and Movie Collector's World
newspaper.
Posters are definitely in my blood - but have been blood-letting to pay the
bills.
Have supplemented my income (read staying home to write screenplays) with what
I took out of the trash as a kid for my entire adult life.

Any person who purchases, purchases for resale, gets it from their aunt or
picks something they like out of the trash is a collector -
If you have taste (good or bad) and apply it to your choice you are ipso-facto
a collector - if not you are a hoarder which taps a different gene i think.
Maybe it is more instructive to look at the definition of a dealer -
And we need look no farther than SCARFACE.

Alan Adler
Museum of Mom and Pop Culture

My blood is available at the link below:

MUSEUM GIFT SHOP:

http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts

ALAN J. ADLER INTERVIEW:

http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/2009/09/movie-poster-collector-alan-j-adler-interview.html

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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Posteropolis

I'd be willing to bet that most of the dealers on MoPo at least started as
collectors, though perhaps not of movie posters to begin with.

That was the case with me. I became a book collector in the 80s (though I
already had a lot of stuff before that, I had been more of an "accumulator" of
cool things).

Because this was in pre-Internet days, I collected old school, by going to
thrift shops, church bazaars and yard sales. Which meant I came across a lot of
other stuff as well, so I started collecting vintage toys and board games, too
(they were there, they cost a quarter or fifty cents, so why not?). I was a
graphic artist and illustrator (I still am a cartoonist), so the appeal of all
these things was primarily visual, it wasn't really about nostalgia for me.

Anyway, this led to movie posters, which combined that graphic element with my
love of movies. Ultimately, I had too many to display so I started selling
while keeping my day job. But eventually the day job went and I became a
full-time seller, which I remain.

The collecting part, though, has of necessity taken a back seat to simply
running a business. As a result there are many pieces I have picked up that
otherwise would have gone into my collection that I have instead sold on to
other collectors. That's just the way it is.

But I still think of myself as a collector and I feel that I better understand
my customers because of that. I was interviewed a while back and asked what I
do. I described myself a "collector's collector," someone who collects with
others in mind. And I can do that because I understand how collectors think and
what they are looking for.

That being said, one doesn't necessarily have to collect to connect with
buyers, though having a passion of some kind helps. Obviously, from his posts,
Kirby is a movie lover and though he doesn't collect posters he does connect
with others on that level, since they love movies too. To me, there's little
difference between that and being a dealer who is a collector. His knowledge of
cinema and passion for it have served him, and his customers, well. The proof
is, all these years after he started, he is still going strong, from all
reports providing excellent service to his customers.

Dave
Posteropolis Vintage Movie Posters
http://www.posteropolis.com
- Original Message -
From: Alan Adler
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Hi -

Been a dealer since the early-to-mid 1970's and Movie Collector's World
newspaper.
Posters are definitely in my blood - but have been blood-letting to pay the
bills.
Have supplemented my income (read staying home to write screenplays) with
what I took out of the trash as a kid for my entire adult life.

Any person who purchases, purchases for resale, gets it from their aunt or
picks something they like out of the trash is a collector -
If you have taste (good or bad) and apply it to your choice you are
ipso-facto a collector - if not you are a hoarder which taps a different gene i
think.
Maybe it is more instructive to look at the definition of a dealer -
And we need look no farther than SCARFACE.

Alan Adler
Museum of Mom and Pop Culture

My blood is available at the link below:

MUSEUM GIFT SHOP:

http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts

ALAN J. ADLER INTERVIEW:

http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/2009/09/movie-poster-collector-alan-j-adler-interview.html

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Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!

2012-02-17 Thread luminita hascalovitz


Hi All,

I was also a victim of this guy under his proficient911 ID. He stiffed me on 
three of my auctions and I filed NPB claims on all. I am currently 
re-auctioning those items. Just can't believe he is still an eBay member in 
good standing. Does anyone know exactly how many non-paying bidder strikes it 
takes to be banished?

MY NO-RESERVE EBAY AUCTIONS


Take Care,

Lumi (lobbies on eBay)

Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:14:57 +1000
From: johnr...@moviemem.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek 
Buyer is Back!
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU










Channing posted the note below about a non 
paying buyer who is using two different useid's and who appears to 
have failed to pay a number of MoPo members.
 
The userid's are proficient911 and 
panosnatalia1968
 
I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items 
totalling more than $100.00 and didnt receive a response from the buyer. These 
claims have now been finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I 
see that the buyer is still registered. 
 
Just curious as to whether everyone else followed 
up with the non paying bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder 
should have been suspended by now.
 
Regards
John
 
 

   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
channinglylethomson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 
AM
Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to 
EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!

I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold 
to: panosnatalia1968 


"I'm really,really 
SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, 
and 
cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, 
but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I 
foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue 
trader. 
Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm 
deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless..."



Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list.  Thanks, Channing 
Thomson
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Re: [MOPO] dealers/collectors

2012-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Jahn

I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still
collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of
posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure
cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much
more (1000's for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc.,
European 'Arthouse' cinema - but I have to deal with posters on these- I'd
love to keep more, but you have to let go and make a living as a dealer.

 

Wolfgang

 

Kinoart.net

 

 

 

Von: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John
Waldman
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

 

So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?  

I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing
with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better
understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do,
and have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why
I like it.  

I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a
camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they
consider "wares".

I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car
from a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I
guess.

 

But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether
it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.

JW

 

From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

 

Allen et al, 

 

I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect
about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  

I know what a collector is, and I am not one.

Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.

Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who
likes posters and sells to support

is habit, is a collector.

You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.

I am not personally a collector.

I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal
collection.  It's not for sale."

On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At
one time I wanted to

start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the
name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY

or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I
admire certain types of posters enormously I

have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

 

Kirby

 

 

On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:





Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There
may be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.

 

To wit:

 

If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing
that task from an 'empty wagon'.

 

If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a
virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.

 

Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or
thousands) of wares.

 

If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become
clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs.
Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors
his future purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.

 

If the prospective dealer has a poor business
model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business
exists/thrives.

 

BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including
the shirt off my back).

 

ad

 

From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

 

I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers
they stopped collecting.
the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:



Hi Kirby
I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most
of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into
dealing via being collectors themselves.
Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and
what would you collect if you did?
Cheers
Neil


From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Neil, et al

I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
Bill Withers, started collectin

Re: [MOPO] dealers/collectors

2012-02-17 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

it's a shame I can't just keep every nice item 
that comes across my path, but when asked for 
advice, I tell people they need to sell the vast 
majority of material they own BEFORE THEY DIE.


the reality is that we as collectors or dealers 
know what something is "worth", so if you have a 
million dollar collection, you should sell it 
before you're gone and leave your heirs the money 
which should be several hundreds of thousands, 
rather than leave them a collection of stuff they 
have no interest in nor any knowledge about, and 
they sell the collection to the first person who 
offers them $50,000 (if that much)


I'm selling certain collections I have right now 
working toward a financial consolidation, as I am 
not immune to my own mortality





At 02:28 PM 2/17/2012, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:
I think most dealers started as collectors, I 
myself did and am still collecting. My private 
collection (not on the site obviously) consists 
of posters mostly for (European) Horror, 
Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure cinema and 
related, and then stills and mostly german lobby 
cards for much more (1000s for like Hitchcock, 
Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., European 
Arthouse cinema  but I have to deal with 
posters on these- Id love to keep more, but you 
have to let go and make a living as a dealer.


Wolfgang

Kinoart.net



Von: MoPo List 
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John Waldman

Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?
I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In 
fact I think if I'm dealing with a person that 
is a collector as well as a seller, there is a 
better understanding between us.   They may in 
fact have the same tastes as I do, and have a 
good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I like it.
I've bought many posters from other collectors, 
and some times there is a camaraderie that you 
don't always get from someone that just sells what they consider "wares".
I also buy old cars, and you can always tell 
when you you are buying a car from a person that 
has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I guess.


But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about 
acquiring the piece.  Whether it's from a 
seller/collector or a person that solely sells.

JW

From: Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.net>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Allen et al,

I don't disagree with your business analysis 
here, but you are incorrect about all dealers 
being collectors, technically or otherwise.

I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a 
guy with a day job who likes posters and sells to support

is habit, is a collector.
You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
I am not personally a collector.
I have never said to a client, for example, 
"that's in my personal collection.  It's not for sale."
On occasions, over the years, I have entertained 
starting a collection.  At one time I wanted to
start a collection of film posters for films 
which had as their title the name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can 
honestly say that while I admire certain types of posters enormously I

have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

Kirby


On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:


Technically, all dealers are collectors, 
regardless of their views. There may be some 
'fav' items, but it is still for sale.


To wit:

If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), 
one has trouble performing that task from an 'empty wagon'.


If one wishes to have a store, be it a 
brick/mortar establishment or a virtual entity, 
it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.


Any professional dealer (that I have 
encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) of wares.


If sales/net profits justify a continuing 
enterprise ... customers become clients and the 
dealer then adjusts inventory to match client 
needs. Inventory (the dealer's collection) must 
be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.


If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that 
is why the auction business exists/thrives.


BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale 
for the right price (including the shirt off my back).


ad

From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
<sa...@comic-art.com>

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
Sub

Re: [MOPO] dealers/collectors

2012-02-17 Thread Freeman Fisher

Rich,
If you unexpectedly croak prior to completion/liquidation of these personal 
collections,  can I grab the consignment?   I promise to Paypal you in a 
general Upward direction on a consistent and monthly basis. 

References on request.

freeman



On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:

> it's a shame I can't just keep every nice item that comes across my path, but 
> when asked for advice, I tell people they need to sell the vast majority of 
> material they own BEFORE THEY DIE.
> 
> the reality is that we as collectors or dealers know what something is 
> "worth", so if you have a million dollar collection, you should sell it 
> before you're gone and leave your heirs the money which should be several 
> hundreds of thousands, rather than leave them a collection of stuff they have 
> no interest in nor any knowledge about, and they sell the collection to the 
> first person who offers them $50,000 (if that much)
> 
> I'm selling certain collections I have right now working toward a financial 
> consolidation, as I am not immune to my own mortality
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:28 PM 2/17/2012, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:
>> I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still 
>> collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of 
>> posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure 
>> cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much 
>> more (1000’s for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., 
>> European ‘Arthouse’ cinema – but I have to deal with posters on these- I’d 
>> love to keep more, but you have to let go and make a living as a dealer.
>>  
>> Wolfgang
>>  
>> Kinoart.net
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Von: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John 
>> Waldman
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
>> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>  
>> So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?  
>> I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing 
>> with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better 
>> understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, 
>> and have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why 
>> I like it.  
>> I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a 
>> camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they 
>> consider "wares".
>> I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car 
>> from a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I 
>> guess.
>>  
>> But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether 
>> it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.
>> JW
>>  
>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>  
>> Allen et al, 
>>  
>> I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect 
>> about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
>> I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
>> Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
>> Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who 
>> likes posters and sells to support
>> is habit, is a collector.
>> You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
>> I am not personally a collector.
>> I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal 
>> collection.  It's not for sale."
>> On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At 
>> one time I wanted to
>> start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the 
>> name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
>> or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
>> admire certain types of posters enormously I
>> have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.
>>  
>> Kirby
>>  
>>  
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There 
>> may be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
>>  
>> To wit:
>>  
>> If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
>> that task from an 'empty wagon'.
>>  
>> If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a 
>> virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
>>  
>> Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or 
>> thousands) of wares.
>>  
>> If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
>> clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. 
>> Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors

[MOPO] STUFFING THE CASKET WITH POSTERS

2012-02-17 Thread Kirby McDaniel

Rich makes a very good point, which is not always, diplomatically speaking, 
easy to bring up
with clients.  

1.  Your kids don't care about this stuff.  You do.  
2.  Your kids care about money.

Kirby


On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:

> it's a shame I can't just keep every nice item that comes across my path, but 
> when asked for advice, I tell people they need to sell the vast majority of 
> material they own BEFORE THEY DIE.
> 
> the reality is that we as collectors or dealers know what something is 
> "worth", so if you have a million dollar collection, you should sell it 
> before you're gone and leave your heirs the money which should be several 
> hundreds of thousands, rather than leave them a collection of stuff they have 
> no interest in nor any knowledge about, and they sell the collection to the 
> first person who offers them $50,000 (if that much)
> 
> I'm selling certain collections I have right now working toward a financial 
> consolidation, as I am not immune to my own mortality
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:28 PM 2/17/2012, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:
>> I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still 
>> collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of 
>> posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure 
>> cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much 
>> more (1000’s for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., 
>> European ‘Arthouse’ cinema – but I have to deal with posters on these- I’d 
>> love to keep more, but you have to let go and make a living as a dealer.
>>  
>> Wolfgang
>>  
>> Kinoart.net
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Von: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John 
>> Waldman
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
>> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>  
>> So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?  
>> I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing 
>> with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better 
>> understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, 
>> and have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why 
>> I like it.  
>> I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a 
>> camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they 
>> consider "wares".
>> I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car 
>> from a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I 
>> guess.
>>  
>> But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether 
>> it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.
>> JW
>>  
>> From: Kirby McDaniel 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>  
>> Allen et al, 
>>  
>> I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect 
>> about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
>> I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
>> Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
>> Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who 
>> likes posters and sells to support
>> is habit, is a collector.
>> You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
>> I am not personally a collector.
>> I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal 
>> collection.  It's not for sale."
>> On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At 
>> one time I wanted to
>> start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the 
>> name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
>> or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
>> admire certain types of posters enormously I
>> have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.
>>  
>> Kirby
>>  
>>  
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There 
>> may be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
>>  
>> To wit:
>>  
>> If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
>> that task from an 'empty wagon'.
>>  
>> If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a 
>> virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
>>  
>> Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or 
>> thousands) of wares.
>>  
>> If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
>> clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. 
>> Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors 
>> his future purchases to match changing/futu

Re: [MOPO] dealers/collectors

2012-02-17 Thread Sean Linkenback

Kirby collects.
He just collects Benjamins.
He has Sue frame them up and has quite an impressive display - a lot more of 
them can go on the wall than we can fit of our cruddy posters.



Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint
On Feb 17, 2012 5:28 PM, Wolfgang Jahn  wrote:

I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still 
collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of 
posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure 
cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much more 
(1000’s for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., European 
‘Arthouse’ cinema – but I have to deal with posters on these- I’d love to keep 
more, but you have to let go and make a living as a 
dealer. Wolfgang Kinoart.net   Von: MoPo List 
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John Waldman
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE 
LAMBS So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who 
are poster collectors?  I for one don't see it as being a 
negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing with a person that is a 
collector as well as a seller, there is a better understanding between 
us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, and have 
a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I like 
it.  I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times 
there is a camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells 
what they consider "wares".I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when 
you you are buying a car from a person that has a real passion for old 
steel.  It's in your blood I guess. But don't get me wrong, 
ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether it's from a 
seller/collector or a person that solely sells.JW From: Kirby McDaniel 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS Allen 
et al,  I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are 
incorrect about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  I 
know what a collector is, and I am not one.Maybe most dealers are.  That 
wouldn't surprise me.Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with 
a day job who likes posters and sells to supportis habit, is a collector.You 
may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.I am not 
personally a collector.I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in 
my personal collection.  It's not for sale."On occasions, over the years, 
I have entertained starting a collection.  At one time I wanted tostart a 
collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name of a 
place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKYor FORT WORTH.  But I did not do 
that, and I can honestly say that while I admire certain types of posters 
enormously Ihave never bought one for myself personally with no intention of 
selling it. Kirby  On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:

Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale. To wit: If one wishes 
to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing that task from an 
'empty wagon'. If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar 
establishment or a virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale 
with minimal wares. Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has 
hundreds (or thousands) of wares. If sales/net profits justify a 
continuing enterprise ... customers become clients and the dealer then adjusts 
inventory to match client needs. Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be 
replenished; the dealer tailors his future purchases to match changing/future 
buyer's tastes. If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
exists/thrives. BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the 
right price (including the shirt off my back). ad From: Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS I have 
known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers they 
stopped collecting.
the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:

Hi Kirby
I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most of 
the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
dealing via being collectors themselves.
Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and what 
would you collect if you did?
Cheers
Neil


From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LIST

Re: [MOPO] dealers/collectors

2012-02-17 Thread Kirby McDaniel

I wouldn't mind a Grant once in while, too!
K.

On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:

> Kirby collects.
> He just collects Benjamins.
> He has Sue frame them up and has quite an impressive display - a lot more of 
> them can go on the wall than we can fit of our cruddy posters.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint
> 
> On Feb 17, 2012 5:28 PM, Wolfgang Jahn  wrote: 
> 
> I think most dealers started as collectors, I myself did and am still 
> collecting. My private collection (not on the site obviously) consists of 
> posters mostly for (European) Horror, Exploitation (30s-60s), cult/obscure 
> cinema and related, and then stills and mostly german lobby cards for much 
> more (1000’s for like Hitchcock, Universal horror, Hepburn/Monroe etc., 
> European ‘Arthouse’ cinema – but I have to deal with posters on these- I’d 
> love to keep more, but you have to let go and make a living as a dealer.
> 
>  
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
>  
> 
> Kinoart.net
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Von: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] Im Auftrag von John 
> Waldman
> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Februar 2012 20:46
> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Betreff: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
>  
> 
> So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors? 
> 
> I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing 
> with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better 
> understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, 
> and have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I 
> like it. 
> 
> I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a 
> camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they 
> consider "wares".
> 
> I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car 
> from a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I 
> guess.
> 
>  
> 
> But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether 
> it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.
> 
> JW
> 
>  
> 
> From: Kirby McDaniel 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
>  
> 
> Allen et al,
> 
>  
> 
> I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect 
> about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
> 
> I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
> 
> Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
> 
> Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
> posters and sells to support
> 
> is habit, is a collector.
> 
> You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
> 
> I am not personally a collector.
> 
> I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal 
> collection.  It's not for sale."
> 
> On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At 
> one time I wanted to
> 
> start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the 
> name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
> 
> or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
> admire certain types of posters enormously I
> 
> have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.
> 
>  
> 
> Kirby
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
> be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
> 
>  
> 
> To wit:
> 
>  
> 
> If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
> that task from an 'empty wagon'.
> 
>  
> 
> If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a 
> virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
> 
>  
> 
> Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
> of wares.
> 
>  
> 
> If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
> clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. 
> Inventory (the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors 
> his future purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.
> 
>  
> 
> If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
> model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
> exists/thrives.
> 
>  
> 
> BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
> the shirt off my back).
> 
>  
> 
> ad
> 
>  
> 
> From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
> 
>  
> 
> I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
> they stopped collecting.
> the r

[MOPO] FA: FOR COLLECTORS OR DEALERS OR DEALER/COLLECTORS COLLECTOR/DEALERS ONLY! ENDING TOMORROW MORNING! FRANKENSTEIN (R1947) 1S + FRANKENSTEIN (REALART 1951) INSERT + HOUSE OF DRACULA (1945) 1S +

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Adler

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COLLECTORS!
COLLECTORS THAT REFUSE TO DEAL!
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COLLECTION!
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[MOPO] Dealers/Collectors

2012-02-17 Thread JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia

Kirby
The reason I asked the question was that I think that many dealers are indeed 
collectors. However, I don't know that this is a good thing from a business 
point of view because it would probably make much more sense to have everything 
available for sale. I am certainly a collector as well as being a full time 
dealer. I have a large collection of Hitchcock posters along with various other 
film noir posters and some others. 
Regards
John

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS


  Allen et al,


  I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect 
about all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
  I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
  Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
  Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
posters and sells to support
  is habit, is a collector.
  You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
  I am not personally a collector.
  I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal 
collection.  It's not for sale."
  On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At 
one time I wanted to
  start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the 
name of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
  or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
admire certain types of posters enormously I
  have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.


  Kirby




  On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:


Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There 
may be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.


To wit:


If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
that task from an 'empty wagon'.


If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a 
virtual entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.


Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or 
thousands) of wares.


If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory 
(the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.


If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
exists/thrives.


BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price 
(including the shirt off my back).


ad




From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS



I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
they stopped collecting.
the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:

  Hi Kirby
  I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect 
most of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got 
into dealing via being collectors themselves.
  Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection 
and what would you collect if you did?
  Cheers
  Neil


  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

  Neil, et al

  I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
  I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
  Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
  I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
  my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
  and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
  But that did not work out and I started selling posters.

  The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
  am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
  owns thousands of them.  

  I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
  a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.

  I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.

  Every poster that I have may be purchased.

  Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
  people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from 
the
  MovieArt World

Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!

2012-02-17 Thread JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia

I just checked and both of his userids are still operating. I had been under 
the impression that if you received 3 separate non paying bidder strikes you 
would get suspended but maybe rule this has changed.

I have blocked both IDs but who knows if he will come back with another userid.

I will phone Power Seller support on Monday and see if there is anything they 
can do.


  - Original Message - 
  From: luminita hascalovitz 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane 
Greek Buyer is Back!


  Hi All,

  I was also a victim of this guy under his proficient911 ID. He stiffed me on 
three of my auctions and I filed NPB claims on all. I am currently 
re-auctioning those items. Just can't believe he is still an eBay member in 
good standing. Does anyone know exactly how many non-paying bidder strikes it 
takes to be banished?

  MY NO-RESERVE EBAY AUCTIONS 

  Take Care,

  Lumi (lobbies on eBay)



--
  Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:14:57 +1000
  From: johnr...@moviemem.com
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane 
Greek Buyer is Back!
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU


  Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two 
different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo 
members.

  The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968

  I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and 
didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been finalised 
and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer is still 
registered. 

  Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying 
bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been 
suspended by now.

  Regards
  John



  - Original Message - 
  From: channinglylethomson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane 
Greek Buyer is Back!


  I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: 
panosnatalia1968 


  "I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of 
Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the 
trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money 
is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or 
a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please 
(again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless..."



  Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list.  Thanks, Channing Thomson
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[MOPO] FA: Celebrity Photographs and Stills NR on eBay

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Dennis

Ending Monday, Feb. 20, 2012: 
http://stores.ebay.com/Lewis-Wayne-Gallery/Celebrity-Photographs-/_i.html?LH_Auction=1&_fsub=21330868&_sid=286408005&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 
21 vintage photographs featuring acting legends of the stage and screen such as 
Joan Crawford, Pier Angeli, Martha Vickers, Benoit Constant Coquelin, Albert 
Chevalier, Evelyn Laye, Piper Laurie and more. 
Some of the greatest photographers from the Golden Age of Hollywood are 
represented including Bert Longworth, Scotty Welbourne, Eugene Robert Riche, 
Fred Morgan, and Henry Waxman. 
We also have over 450 celebrity photographs offered for sale on our website: 
http://www.lewiswaynegallery.com/categories/show/127 

Enjoy your week!
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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia

Yes indeed, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross were mistaken. It probably is "Twisted" 
for dealers to also be collectors!

For those not familiar with the song here are the closing lines from the song  
..

My analyst told me that I was right out of my head
But I said dear doctor I think that it's you instead
Because I've got a thing that's unique and new
To prove that I'll have the last laugh on you
'Cause instead of one head I've got two
And you know two heads are better than one



  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS


  Exactly.  Thanks, Rich, for answering this.  I think for me, as a dealer, 
it's better to have one head
  rather than two.  Apologies to Lambert, Hendricks and Ross!


  Kirby


  On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:14 AM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:


I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
they stopped collecting.
the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.


At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:

  Hi Kirby
  I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect 
most of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got 
into dealing via being collectors themselves.
  Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection 
and what would you collect if you did?
  Cheers
  Neil


  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

  Neil, et al

  I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
  I ever heard of anyone collecting film posters was when my cousin,
  Bill Withers, started collecting them from Eddie Brandt about 1972.
  I thought: what an odd thing to want to own.  Many years later I bought
  my first group of posters, and quite honestly I intended to flip that lot
  and to continue to do what I was doing, which was nothing in particular.
  But that did not work out and I started selling posters.

  The truth is I have never been a collector of film posters and I
  am not, truly, a collector today.  An odd thing for someone who
  owns thousands of them.  

  I am a dealer.  When I have at times contemplated starting
  a collection myself, I have always rejected the idea.

  I think that, for me, this would be a bad idea.

  Every poster that I have may be purchased.

  Of course, I get to enjoy seeing many posters and I do enjoy helping
  people find things and David, Steve and I enjoy of course, selling from 
the
  MovieArt World Headquarters in Austin.

  Best,
  Kirby



  On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:


quid pro quo agent mcdaniel.  i tell you things, you tell me things.

not about yourself though, about posters, waddya say?

what is your worst memory of childhood.poster collecting.


;-)


From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:21
Subject: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Were the teasers for this film 27x40?

Any help appreciated.

Kirby

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[MOPO] FRONT OF HOUSE CARDS

2012-02-17 Thread Kirby McDaniel

We have some British Front of House sets on our site right now -
some good titles.  Right now most of them are on the home page, but
some are scattered throughout.

www.movieart.net





Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Original Film Posters
P.O. Box 4419
Austin TX 78765-4419
512 479 6680  www.movieart.net
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Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!

2012-02-17 Thread Franc

If you send me the telephone number for Power Seller support, I'll call them
as well. I searched for the telephone and could no longer find it. FRANC

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID
Vintage Movie Memorabilia
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:44 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane
Greek Buyer is Back!

I just checked and both of his userids are still operating. I had been under
the impression that if you received 3 separate non paying bidder strikes you
would get suspended but maybe rule this has changed.

I have blocked both IDs but who knows if he will come back with another
userid.

I will phone Power Seller support on Monday and see if there is anything
they can do.

- Original Message - 
From: luminita hascalovitz   
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane
Greek Buyer is Back!

Hi All,

I was also a victim of this guy under his proficient911 ID. He stiffed me on
three of my auctions and I filed NPB claims on all. I am currently
re-auctioning those items. Just can't believe he is still an eBay member in
good standing. Does anyone know exactly how many non-paying bidder strikes
it takes to be banished?

MY  
NO-RESERVE EBAY AUCTIONS 

Take Care,

Lumi (lobbies on eBay)

  _  

Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:14:57 +1000
From: johnr...@moviemem.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane
Greek Buyer is Back!
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two
different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo
members.

The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968

I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and
didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been
finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer
is still registered. 

Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying
bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been
suspended by now.

Regards
John

- Original Message - 
From: channinglylethomson   
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM
Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek
Buyer is Back!

I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to:
panosnatalia1968 

"I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece
is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I
caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so
tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a
rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please
(again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless..."

Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list.  Thanks, Channing Thomson
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Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

2012-02-17 Thread Ari Richards

Certainly. I mainly even only deal in items, or at least areas of 
posters/movies that I like myself. I traded off most of my NON 
Horror/Exploitation/SF/Trashy/Euro Western, etc items and concentrated on these 
areas that interest me.
I find it helpful to me, as one I enjoy having the material, and two a 
collector can ask for HELL OF THE LIVING DEAD and immediately I could say, not 
at the moment but I do have the following Mattei items, or whatever, ts films I 
know like the back of my hand and love to death.

I think most dealers are collectors - personally I like that. 
Ari

 From: John Waldman 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

So are there any poster dealers on MOPO who are poster collectors?  
I for one don't see it as being a negative.  In fact I think if I'm dealing 
with a person that is a collector as well as a seller, there is a better 
understanding between us.   They may in fact have the same tastes as I do, and 
have a good understanding why I'm looking for a specific poster and why I like 
it.  
I've bought many posters from other collectors, and some times there is a 
camaraderie that you don't always get from someone that just sells what they 
consider "wares".
I also buy old cars, and you can always tell when you you are buying a car from 
a person that has a real passion for old steel.  It's in your blood I guess.

But don't get me wrong, ultimately it's about acquiring the piece.  Whether 
it's from a seller/collector or a person that solely sells.
JW

From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

Allen et al, 

I don't disagree with your business analysis here, but you are incorrect about 
all dealers being collectors, technically or otherwise.  
I know what a collector is, and I am not one.
Maybe most dealers are.  That wouldn't surprise me.
Certainly the kind of seller one sees on ebay, a guy with a day job who likes 
posters and sells to support
is habit, is a collector.
You may say that I am collecting inventory, but this is a semantic nuance.
I am not personally a collector.
I have never said to a client, for example, "that's in my personal collection.  
It's not for sale."
On occasions, over the years, I have entertained starting a collection.  At one 
time I wanted to
start a collection of film posters for films which had as their title the name 
of a place.  Like CHINATOWN or KENTUCKY
or FORT WORTH.  But I did not do that, and I can honestly say that while I 
admire certain types of posters enormously I
have never bought one for myself personally with no intention of selling it.

Kirby

On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:02 AM, allen day wrote:

Technically, all dealers are collectors, regardless of their views. There may 
be some 'fav' items, but it is still for sale.
>
>
>To wit:
>
>
>If one wishes to sell (as in a business model), one has trouble performing 
>that task from an 'empty wagon'.
>
>
>If one wishes to have a store, be it a brick/mortar establishment or a virtual 
>entity, it may seem dubious to to attempt a sale with minimal wares.
>
>
>Any professional dealer (that I have encountered) has hundreds (or thousands) 
>of wares.
>
>
>If sales/net profits justify a continuing enterprise ... customers become 
>clients and the dealer then adjusts inventory to match client needs. Inventory 
>(the dealer's collection) must be replenished; the dealer tailors his future 
>purchases to match changing/future buyer's tastes.
>
>
>If the prospective dealer has a poor business 
>model/retires/divorces/dies/loses interest, that is why the auction business 
>exists/thrives.
>
>
>BTW ... anything I own or collect is for sale for the right price (including 
>the shirt off my back).
>
>
>ad
>
>
>From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>
>
>I have known many people who were collectors, but once they became dealers 
>they stopped collecting.
>the reasoning was that it was a poor way to run a business.
>
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>At 02:08 AM 2/17/2012, Neil Jaworski wrote:
>
>Hi Kirby
>>I think that's really interesting that you don't collect, as I suspect most 
>>of the other major dealers do.  And I imagine that a lot of dealers got into 
>>dealing via being collectors themselves.
>>Why do you think it would be a "bad idea" for you to have a collection and 
>>what would you collect if you did?
>>Cheers
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>From: Kirby McDaniel 
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 1:28
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] QUESTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
>>
>>Neil, et al
>>
>>I did not collect posters when I was a kid.  In fact, the first time
>>I ever heard of anyone collecting

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