Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
As seller (when it was possible): I did maybe twice out of 400+ transactions. Both times after a month or two or THREE of wrangling with a lying jackass. As a buyer: Only twice, when a French seller LIED about what he was selling (conveniently cropping the photo to eliminate characteristics of the poster) and when a UK seller threw a valuable LC in an envelope, apparently hoping it would be destroyed on the way to the US. His wish came true. -Erich www.posterdemic.com On 7/17/08, Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how often do you ACTUALLY leave bad feedback? do you do it sparingly, and for what reason? deceptive description grossly and deceptive? forever to ship or bad packahing causing damage? ??? ?? ? michael -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
I recently left negative feedback on an italian seller who charged my 15 Euros (almost $24) shipping for a locandina. When the (recycled) tube arrived, it had stamps for 2 Euros (a bit over $3) on it. The seller admitted that these were his actual costs but told me I should have read the item description and refused a refund. There's nothing wrong with a 'handling fee', but there IS a limit, so I left him an appropriate negative feedback. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
I seldom leave bad feedback as a buyer. I only buy from people with high ratings and I've almost NEVER had a problem with anything I've bought. I had a problem with a totally inaccurate description of condition from a respected dealer whom I'm sure you all know and instead of leaving bad feedback I cut him a break and sent him an e-mail telling him that I probably will not bid from him again. At least I got an apology. These days an apology goes a long way. The only time in recent history that I left a negative was for an electronics dealer who sold me a piece of equipment that was sold as brand new and was totally defective. I called him on the phone and he was defensive and rude and he refused to exchange or refund the purchase price. He insisted I deal directly with the manufacturer, so I left him a negative based on his poor customer service. He sent me a form through Ebay begging for a retraction and I would not comply. The guy was just a very bad businessman. As a seller the only time I would want to leave a bad feedback is for non-payment and Ebay now does not allow this anymore. So the same stiffs that never pay for anything they purchase on Ebay ---people like Nick Ventola -- get a free pass. What I usually try to do is get other buyers who have had recent non-payment problems with the same user to report this to Ebay. After three non-payment complaints in a month, Ebay usually kicks the offending buyer off Ebay. I also try to research their contact information since they usually have a bogus phone number as their Ebay contact. This too I report to Ebay, since it's a blatant rules violation and that also gets the offending buyer kicked off. Desperate times require desperate measures. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback how often do you ACTUALLY leave bad feedback? do you do it sparingly, and for what reason? deceptive description grossly and deceptive? forever to ship or bad packahing causing damage? ??? ?? ? michael _ The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514 ! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I also try to research their contact information since they usually have a bogus phone number as their Ebay contact. Very true. But it can be almost worse when it's real! One particular buyer had a real phone number and I honestly called him 10+ separate occasions to attempt to get him to pay. Excuses excuses excuses, and this guy is an attorney! Oh, did I mention the calls were to Australia (I am in US), and that I attempted to be courteous by timing my calls during business hours FOR HIM. So, there's me, the idiot nice guy, staying up until who knows what time in order to call some deadbeat on the other side of the planet, only to hear that his credit card was stolen, or that his friend would pay me, or whatever else he dreamed up in his twisted little mind. Lesson learned. -Erich www.posterdemic.com On 7/17/08, Franc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seldom leave bad feedback as a buyer. I only buy from people with high ratings and I've almost NEVER had a problem with anything I've bought. I had a problem with a totally inaccurate description of condition from a respected dealer whom I'm sure you all know and instead of leaving bad feedback I cut him a break and sent him an e-mail telling him that I probably will not bid from him again. At least I got an apology. These days an apology goes a long way. The only time in recent history that I left a negative was for an electronics dealer who sold me a piece of equipment that was sold as brand new and was totally defective. I called him on the phone and he was defensive and rude and he refused to exchange or refund the purchase price. He insisted I deal directly with the manufacturer, so I left him a negative based on his poor customer service. He sent me a form through Ebay begging for a retraction and I would not comply. The guy was just a very bad businessman. As a seller the only time I would want to leave a bad feedback is for non-payment and Ebay now does not allow this anymore. So the same stiffs that never pay for anything they purchase on Ebay ---people like Nick Ventola -- get a free pass. What I usually try to do is get other buyers who have had recent non-payment problems with the same user to report this to Ebay. After three non-payment complaints in a month, Ebay usually kicks the offending buyer off Ebay. I also try to research their contact information since they usually have a bogus phone number as their Ebay contact. This too I report to Ebay, since it's a blatant rules violation and that also gets the offending buyer kicked off. Desperate times require desperate measures. FRANC -Original Message- *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Michael B *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:47 AM *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Subject:* [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback how often do you ACTUALLY leave bad feedback? do you do it sparingly, and for what reason? deceptive description grossly and deceptive? forever to ship or bad packahing causing damage? ??? ?? ? michael -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
Michael, I left bad feedback for the first time and did it three times with three different Sellers. The reason: They got paid on time, but never responded to email and never shipped the items. Ebay has suspended two of these Sellers. So weird that they had great feedback right up to the time I'd purchased items. Then they had a string of 8-10 Buyers leaving Neg feedback due to never receiving the items purchased. Claims filed, but I have even less faith in PayPal than I do in Ebay, so that $ is likely gone. Patrick ps: I should note that none of these Sellers were selling posters. On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Michael B wrote: how often do you ACTUALLY leave bad feedback? do you do it sparingly, and for what reason? deceptive description grossly and deceptive? forever to ship or bad packahing causing damage? ??? ?? ? michael The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
And you Michael, how often have *you* ACTUALLY left negative feedback and the reasons. Just curious. Me, I left only a couple of negs since 1998 for reasons of which I no longer recall. That's not to say I haven't been disappointed, or misled, buy an item received, but have always been able to communicate with the seller to resolve the transaction with either money returned, an replacement item, or (in one case) credit on future auctions. That's happened a dozen or so times. And as a seller I found the best way to retain good relationships, and a solid customer base, was to let the buyer keep the item they were disappointed with and return all the money, including shipping. No questions asked. That happened maybe 5 times over the years. It was amazing that after I gave them that option, the item in question was no longer quite so disappointing. pj bigtownfilmposters.us On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Patrick Michael Tupy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I left bad feedback for the first time and did it three times with three different Sellers. The reason: They got paid on time, but never responded to email and never shipped the items. Ebay has suspended two of these Sellers. So weird that they had great feedback right up to the time I'd purchased items. Then they had a string of 8-10 Buyers leaving Neg feedback due to never receiving the items purchased. Claims filed, but I have even less faith in PayPal than I do in Ebay, so that $ is likely gone. Patrick ps: I should note that none of these Sellers were selling posters. On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Michael B wrote: how often do you ACTUALLY leave bad feedback? do you do it sparingly, and for what reason? deceptive description grossly and deceptive? forever to ship or bad packahing causing damage? ??? ?? ? michael -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving Bad Feedback
I have left negs in only a few occasions once the ebay buyer/seller JohnBarrymoreUK cheated me took my money she may be a huge barrymore fan, but she wanted me to pay the paypal fees, I told ebay who warned her she couldn't do that.. but I never got my items. so for $30 I found out that JohnBarrymoreUK was thief.. that's okay. Now all of you know it too. Anyway I left her a neg to find that at the very last minute that she could leave feedback, she had negged me too. But I did get her back.. for months I checked her bidding list drove her up about $1000 total before I got bored with it. she has since changed her ebay name.. if she's reading this.. well, seeing as she is a woman and I still see something wrong with insulting a woman - if she is a lady or as in this case, not - I will hold my tongue. another time, Superposters ripped me off and was an a**hole, so I negged him I know there were a few times I left other negs.. not too often. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Leaving bad feedback
WHEN CHECKING A TRADING PARTNER, I BELIEVE THAT IS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE THE FEEDBACK LEFT FOR OTHERS. Often, very insightful. Not so insightful now under the new system with sellers being unable to leave anything but positive feedback. eBay has also warned sellers that they will be committing a policy violation if the leave false positives ie a seller who leaves a positive feedback but with a comment like warning - non paying bidder. eBay has said that comments like these will be removed and violations could result in suspension. Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Michael B To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: [MOPO] Leaving bad feedback And you Michael, how often have you ACTUALLY left negative feedback and the reasons. Just curious. i have two ebay accounts: dialmbbmbb witnessfor let my feedback history speak for itself. WHEN CHECKING A TRADING PARTNER, I BELIEVE THAT IS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE THE FEEDBACK LEFT FOR OTHERS. Often, very insightful. i believe that neg feedback should be left for collectors or dealers (posters or otherwise) who are purposefully deceitful by words or tiny, cropped images. i have had several situations of sellers outside the poster collecting hobby that did not have a clue as to what defects to disclose; yet, despite disappointment, i still left good feedback because they seemed sincere and honest. collectors dealers are to be held to a higher standard. i have also left the proverbial retaliatory feedback. i told MOPOers this morning of the terrible flimsy damaged tube that i received a few weeks ago. seller left me advance fgood eedback. i have left none. i have returned posters that did not meet the description, and sometimes left good feedback. it is all about sincerity, honesty and decency. i have never received any feedback as a seller for misrepresenting. michael -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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It's all a bit like ALICE IN WONDERLAND now. Phil - Original Message - From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Leaving bad feedback WHEN CHECKING A TRADING PARTNER, I BELIEVE THAT IS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE THE FEEDBACK LEFT FOR OTHERS. Often, very insightful. Not so insightful now under the new system with sellers being unable to leave anything but positive feedback. eBay has also warned sellers that they will be committing a policy violation if the leave false positives ie a seller who leaves a positive feedback but with a comment like warning - non paying bidder. eBay has said that comments like these will be removed and violations could result in suspension. Sign up for my regular newsletter on movie memorabilia: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?mod=accountgo=register Visit my Website: www.moviemem.com All About Australian posters: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/johnwr_W0QQuqtZg My eBay Store and Lisitngs: http://myworld.ebay.com/johnwr/ Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Michael B To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: [MOPO] Leaving bad feedback And you Michael, how often have you ACTUALLY left negative feedback and the reasons. Just curious. i have two ebay accounts: dialmbbmbb witnessfor let my feedback history speak for itself. WHEN CHECKING A TRADING PARTNER, I BELIEVE THAT IS IS IMPORTANT TO SEE THE FEEDBACK LEFT FOR OTHERS. Often, very insightful. i believe that neg feedback should be left for collectors or dealers (posters or otherwise) who are purposefully deceitful by words or tiny, cropped images. i have had several situations of sellers outside the poster collecting hobby that did not have a clue as to what defects to disclose; yet, despite disappointment, i still left good feedback because they seemed sincere and honest. collectors dealers are to be held to a higher standard. i have also left the proverbial retaliatory feedback. i told MOPOers this morning of the terrible flimsy damaged tube that i received a few weeks ago. seller left me advance fgood eedback. i have left none. i have returned posters that did not meet the description, and sometimes left good feedback. it is all about sincerity, honesty and decency. i have never received any feedback as a seller for misrepresenting. michael The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
