Re: Mozilla won't run on Linux
Right, thanks again for all of your help. Looks like I was a dumbass again, and forgot some of the most vital things you should have done. These should be the last things you need to do (I hope). First, do you have Mozilla set to load a homepage on startup? If so, try starting mozilla with pages other than your homepage: mozilla http://www.some-other-host.com/ If it only crashes on certain pages (like the homepage), please post the URLs that cause the crash. Also, do this: % mozilla -g (gdb) b exit (gdb) b abort (gdb) run And wait for it to to get back to the "(gdb)" prompt; then enter "where" and post that output. You'll have to do "mozilla -g" on a talkback build of mozilla (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz) or you won't get any useful information. After unpacking it, cd to the mozilla-installer directory and run the program "mozilla-installer" to extract the talkback build.
Re: We need janitors
Mark Anderson wrote: > > Phil Sweeney wrote: > > > > I'm up for some Janitorial work :) > > Ditto me. Get Mozilla on the resume, but not have to worry about having > to devote lots of time to C++ or learning XUL (my one patch to date was > incredibly trivial) until my general requirements for school are out of > the way and the CS requirements allow me some freedom to do outside > projects. :) Ahuh.. I've tried to stuff around with the mozilla codebase, but lack of things to work on that I could handle, and general lack of knowledge about XPCom, complex Makefiles etc have made it hard. Anyway to get involved with the source would be beneficial. Phil
http:// required?
it seems that I have to enter the beginning 'http://' or Mozilla won't load the page. NS automatically adds this prefix because it's most likely a webpage. Is this behaviour wanted in Mozilla? Or is this a bug?
Junkbuster Proxie dosen't work
Does anyone know how to get junkbuster to work with mozilla 0.8.1? I tried changing http 1.1 to 1.0 - didn't help. I've change the ports too. Anything else to try?
Re: How's Moz/N6 ranking?
> Are we just going to have to wait until N6.5 and Moz 1.0 come out to get > any real use of these browsers? We are going to have to wait until the end user percieves Mozilla/Nav6 as beeing the better browser. At the moment, I'm the last of the die hard Netscape users that I know. Of course, even I don't use Nav6 because it's a POS and I use mozilla when I can, but it's just too darn unpredictable to use 100% of the time. I'm waiting for v1.0. A lot of the people I talk to SAY they won't even try it. Mind you a few of the people I know, will most likely try it out when it hits v1.0. If they like it they'll probably stick with it. But at the moment they are used to IE keystrokes and if Mozilla doesn't have an IE keystroke compatibility mode (Like Office has a Word Perfect setting) I fear that they won't bother to lean moz and go back to IE after one day.
Re: How's Moz/N6 ranking?
Netscape 6 *has* however been "out" for quite a while, and at least in our log analysis software, Moz counts, along with NS6, as "netscape navigator 5." Our combined numbers are a little more hopeful than cm's: 57 percent ie5.x, 17 percent ns4.x, 7 percent ie4.x, and .31 percent nav 5.x. But then the three of us who take care of the web site all use Moz or ns6.01... For no particular reason other than inertia, most of our internal users are on ns4.x. Our computing people are agnostic about browsers so there is going to have to be a strong argument to get ns6.x on our machines. With ie's standards compliance having improved so much, it is a hard argument to make. Appeals to religion or ideology are meaningful to some, but not to most. Privacy or the near-constant security issues with ie may also keep some in the netscape fold. I *really* wish ns6 had been in better shape when it was released. Gervase Markham wrote: >> Now Moz and N6 have been out for awhile, and the numbers don't seem to >> be rising...: > > > Moz has not been "out for a while". It's due to reach version 1.0 in June. > > >> Also, IE6 (which is in public beta) seems a bit of a yawn. Have we >> taken "browsers" as far as they can go? > > > No :-) XHTML, XML + CSS, XSLT, SVG, MathML. CSS2. CSS3. Accessibility > > Gerv
Re: We need janitors
Phil Sweeney wrote: > > jesus X wrote: > > > > > In fact, janitorial work can be a good entry path for aspiring kernel > > > hackers. > > > > It helps these people become MUCH more conformable in their knowledge of the > > code before they start actualy WORK, as opposed to cleanup duty. Not only > > are they familiarizing themselves with the codebase for future reference, > > but they're HELPING in an important, but time consuming task at the same > > time. For everyone, it's a win-win scenario. > > I'm up for some Janitorial work :) Ditto me. Get Mozilla on the resume, but not have to worry about having to devote lots of time to C++ or learning XUL (my one patch to date was incredibly trivial) until my general requirements for school are out of the way and the CS requirements allow me some freedom to do outside projects. :)
Re: How's Moz/N6 ranking?
And it came to pass that benway.com wrote:
> Hey all,
> I'm wondering how Moz/N6 is doing in the browser
> wars... I've noticed at
> my site (for example) the Moz/N6 visitors are miniscule.
> Now Moz and N6 have been out for awhile, and the numbers
> don't seem to be rising...:
> Out of 20,000+ visitors this last week, IE gets 73%,
> Netscape 4+ gets 16% (steadily dropping) and Moz/N6 is about
> 0.1% (25 hits out of 20,000+). This is all flavors of Moz
> and N6.
>
I know a good handful of Moz/N6 users are spoofing NC4.7 in
order to access some secure sites that block Moz/N6 (Some
concern over security and the password manager, IIRC).
It's possible that some of your NC4.7 hits are thus Moz/N6, but
I don't know of any statistics.
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latest win32 build
I just downloaded and unzipped what I thought was the latest win32 talkback build from /latest-trunk/. On the ftp site, its dated 30-Mar-2001 22:55 but when I unzipped it, it turned out to be build 2001-03-28-04. What gives? Is there a *real* talkback build from 30-Mar?
Re: Mozilla won't run on Linux
> ldd -d -r ./mozilla-bin
libgkgfx.so => ./libgkgfx.so (0x40014000)
libxpcom.so => ./libxpcom.so (0x40048000)
libmozjs.so => ./libmozjs.so (0x4010)
libjsj.so => ./libjsj.so (0x40167000)
libplds4.so => ./libplds4.so (0x40181000)
libplc4.so => ./libplc4.so (0x40184000)
libnspr4.so => ./libnspr4.so (0x40188000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x401be000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401d1000)
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
(0x401d6000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40225000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40243000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
The program runs till it prints:
Registering plugin 0 for: "*",*"All types",".*"
I have to kill it at this point.
The output from strace is:
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 9) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 393575}, NULL) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 393626}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 393786}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 9) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 413575}, NULL) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 413629}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 413788}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 9) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 433596}, NULL) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 433651}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 433816}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 9) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 453585}, NULL) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 453639}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0
32334 gettimeofday({986048540, 453800}, NULL) = 0
32334 ioctl(9, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
32334 poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 9) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
32334 --- SIGINT (Interrupt) ---
32334 +++ killed by SIGINT +++
(output continues till killed. I let this run for 10 minutes before
killing it.)
- - - - - - -
The output from ltrace is:
32303 SetLength__8nsStringUi(0xb0f4, 40, 0xb05c, 0xb0f4,
0x400fda44) = 0xb10c
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef30, 1, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb074
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef1c, 2, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb074
32303
GetWritableFragment__8nsStringRt18nsWritableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb0f4,
0xbfffef08, 1, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb10c
32303
GetWritableFragment__8nsStringRt18nsWritableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb0f4,
0xbfffef08, 3, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef30, 3, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0
32303 Length__C8nsString(0xb0f4, 0x400fda44, 0xb190, 0xb0f4,
0xbfffeed8) = 29
32303 Length__C8nsString(0xb05c, 0xb0f4, 0x400fda44, 0xb190,
0xb0f4) = 13
32303 SetLength__8nsStringUi(0xb0f4, 42, 0xb05c, 0xb0f4,
0x400fda44) = 0xb10c
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef30, 1, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb074
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef1c, 2, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb074
32303
GetWritableFragment__8nsStringRt18nsWritableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb0f4,
0xbfffef08, 1, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0xb10c
32303
GetWritableFragment__8nsStringRt18nsWritableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb0f4,
0xbfffef08, 3, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef30, 3, 0, 0x400fda44) = 0
32303 Length__C8nsString(0xb0f4, 0x400fda44, 0xb190, 0xb0f4,
0xbfffeed8) = 29
32303 Length__C8nsString(0xb05c, 0xb0f4, 0x400fda44, 0xb190,
0xb0f4) = 15
32303 SetLength__8nsStringUi(0xb0f4, 44, 0xb05c, 0xb0f4,
0x400fda44) = 0xb10c
32303
GetReadableFragment__C8nsStringRt18nsReadableFragment1ZUs17nsFragmentRequestUi(0xb05c,
0xbfffef30, 1, 0, 0x
Re: How's Moz/N6 ranking?
> Now Moz and N6 have been out for awhile, and the numbers don't seem to > be rising...: Moz has not been "out for a while". It's due to reach version 1.0 in June. > Also, IE6 (which is in public beta) seems a bit of a yawn. Have we > taken "browsers" as far as they can go? No :-) XHTML, XML + CSS, XSLT, SVG, MathML. CSS2. CSS3. Accessibility Gerv
Re: Start-Up behavior
Mac Os 9/9.1 or OSX which you can use OS 9.1 OSX and BSD 4.4 UNIX.
Wayne Alligood wrote:
>
> Jahn,
>
> What OS do you suggest that I use?
>
> Wayne
>
> "Christopher Jahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | And it came to pass that Wayne Alligood wrote:
> |
> | >First of all, I appreciate your information. Secondly, I
> | >wouldn't consider going back to Windows '98 a viable
> | >solution. I would consider installing Windows 2000 but there
> | >is this once glitch - Windows XP. With Windows XP in its
> | >second beta and more than likely to be released sometime this
> | >fall, I will probably wait and upgrade the OS at that time.
> | >By the fall, Mozilla should be very healthy and stable - very
> | >mature at that time.
> | >
> | >The way it looks, there are a lot of good things coming in
> | >the fall.
> | >
> |
> | I'm not going to be using any Windows products by the fall - to
> | hell with'em.
> |
> | I see no evidence that XP will be any better than any other MS
> | peice of bloatware.
> |
> | --
> | }:-) Christopher Jahn
> | {:-( Dionysian Reveler
> |
> | The best teddy bears are the live kind.
> | http://www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp
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Managing mozilla profiles for 1000 users
I want to set up Mozilla Mail in a college environment. If I write a script to create customized profiles in users' home directories, how do I make the mozilla profile manager on each of the workstations aware of them? My main problem seems to be that if I add a a profile through the profile manager it decides to generate a fairly random looking sub-directory (eg. 4kug6ks3.slt) under the profile directory I specify in which to put the settings, whereas I would need this to be the same for all users. Any ideas or pointers to documentation would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mike
How's Moz/N6 ranking?
Hey all, I'm wondering how Moz/N6 is doing in the browser wars... I've noticed at my site (for example) the Moz/N6 visitors are miniscule. Now Moz and N6 have been out for awhile, and the numbers don't seem to be rising...: Out of 20,000+ visitors this last week, IE gets 73%, Netscape 4+ gets 16% (steadily dropping) and Moz/N6 is about 0.1% (25 hits out of 20,000+). This is all flavors of Moz and N6. Are we just going to have to wait until N6.5 and Moz 1.0 come out to get any real use of these browsers? (or maybe hope that AOL goes over to N6?) Though, out of this 20,000 visitors, only 972 were AOL (what, 4%?), so that my not be a big a boon as people are hoping... I'm sure rooting for Moz/N6 (and I much prefer Moz's Mail/News over everything out there!), but they better get something on the ball quick Also, IE6 (which is in public beta) seems a bit of a yawn. Have we taken "browsers" as far as they can go? cm
Re: Happy 3rd Birthday Mozilla :-)
Gervase Markham wrote: > Mozilla source code was released to the world three years ago today > (according to the dates in the source files.) > > So, who's writing "Mozilla at Three"? ;-) The children start to visit the kindergarden when they get three years old here in Germany. Dunno if this also is in USA this way, but I think Mozilla is already ready to finish school and begin to work ;-) Niko! -- Niko Pavlicek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: We need janitors
jesus X wrote: > > > In fact, janitorial work can be a good entry path for aspiring kernel > > hackers. > > It helps these people become MUCH more conformable in their knowledge of the > code before they start actualy WORK, as opposed to cleanup duty. Not only > are they familiarizing themselves with the codebase for future reference, > but they're HELPING in an important, but time consuming task at the same > time. For everyone, it's a win-win scenario. I'm up for some Janitorial work :) Phil
Re: Correct behavior?
Rick wrote: > > I've inherited some code that uses DHTML to display columns and rows. > Each row alternates the background color. > With IE, if the column value is empty, a background is still painted. > With Netscape and Mozilla, if the column value is empty the background > is not painted. > Which is the correct behavior? If you mean that the background color of cells alternates for each row, and if by 'column value' you mean 'table cell', then Mozilla is correct. According to CSS2, empty cells have transparent backgrounds. See: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html#table-layers However, setting the background color of the rows, rather than the cells, would work. -- Regards, Val Sharp - Edinburgh
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Re: We need janitors
Gervase Markham wrote: > Ideas welcomed... An excellent point here: > In fact, janitorial work can be a good entry path for aspiring kernel > hackers. It helps these people become MUCH more conformable in their knowledge of the code before they start actualy WORK, as opposed to cleanup duty. Not only are they familiarizing themselves with the codebase for future reference, but they're HELPING in an important, but time consuming task at the same time. For everyone, it's a win-win scenario. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated March 12, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Porting javascript to Mozilla
Rick wrote: > > No code has changed, but it works now. I have no idea why. The rest of > the note was typed before I tried it again. Yeah, it looks ok, assuming you've done the obvious and defined what checkFields() and such, all the brackets and such are in order, and all. Without the whole block of code, it's kind of hard to determine, but this part looks ok on face value... -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated March 12, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Happy 3rd Birthday Mozilla :-)
Mozilla source code was released to the world three years ago today (according to the dates in the source files.) So, who's writing "Mozilla at Three"? ;-) Gerv
