Re: Mozilla logo -- HERE YOU ARE !!!

2001-12-08 Thread Redhat71

Peter Lairo wrote:

 yatsu wrote:
 
 Sadly, no (sucessful) action has ever been undertaken to get some of the
 suggested icons in mozilla.
 
 
 
 This file will allow you to have a separate icon for each Mozilla 
 application (Browser, Mail/News, etc).
 
 Just unzip the attached file into your chrome directory.
 
 It has the awesome Guivanni icons for the major modules.
 
it seems not working here, redhat71+mozilla 0.9.6






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Re: [mozilla.org] roadmap.html - tree management image is old

2001-12-08 Thread dman84

RangeLife wrote:

 The roadmap image in
 http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
 refer to a pre 0.9.6 release
 if someone in the crew is interested in,
 i've moved the cross we're here
 in the right place.
 http://web.tiscali.it/Gloria/roadmap.png
 
 i hope this is a (very) little contribute
 to mozilla project.
 
 Ciao.
 -- 
 

brendan Eich is the man listed to handle that
now.. so he updates the roadmap milestone chart
as well..

-dman84





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Ian Thomas

Malodushnikh wrote:

 If they're that offensive to you, go use another browser.
 

They aren't offensive to me, but nor would icons of the WTC be offensive 
to me. But Mozilla should be a browser for everyone, not just people who 
are not offended by these symbols.

If you were running a shop, would you cover the wall with offensive 
posters? I doubt it, in most shops that would decrease sales and damage 
your image. The same should be true with Mozilla.

Ian





Re: [mozilla.org] roadmap.html - tree management image is old

2001-12-08 Thread LemNet.com Support

RangeLife wrote:

 The roadmap image in
 http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
 refer to a pre 0.9.6 release
 if someone in the crew is interested in,
 i've moved the cross we're here
 in the right place.
 http://web.tiscali.it/Gloria/roadmap.png
 
 i hope this is a (very) little contribute
 to mozilla project.

Good point, but the whole image needs to be updated to take into account 
upto 0.9.9 and other important things that have been happening in the tree.

Ian





Positioning absolute elements

2001-12-08 Thread Mike Mimic

Hi!

I have a table which I want to position. And my problem is that for x
coordinates I have to substract 142 px for correct positioning
(so if I position it at 0 px Netscape6 positions it at 142 px).

Is this normal behaviour?


Mike





Re: command line help bug

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Biesinger

Anthony Ewell wrote:

  mozilla -help(or try --help)   or,
  netscape -help
 
 But, neither one of these works.


If you try this on Windows 9x, you must do it this way:

   mozilla -help  mozhelü
   type mozhelp





Re: Recent Nightly destroyed my Bookmarks Separator Lines - Please Help

2001-12-08 Thread Sören Kuklau

The cause is, as Neil guessed, the landing of the remake of the bookmarks
into an outliner. By using nightlies, you have this risk, and Mozilla is a
development browser anyways, not a final, solid, stable product (at least as
of yet).

In 2001120703, the trouble with the seperators got fixed for me. My trouble
was btw that there were four or five seperators on top of each other... all
a bit messed up. But as said, for me, it's fixed now.

Sören Kuklau

Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Peter Lairo wrote:

  Some recent Nightly Build destroyed my Bookmarks Separator Lines.

 I forgot mention that my personal toolbar is as barren (empty) as the
 sahara desert - no bookmarks therre at all. :(

 I used N6.2 for a few days this week while the nightlies were unstable
 (always crashed). Could that be the cause? More importantly, how can I
 fix this (no separators, no toolbar BM's)?

 PS. I noticed that sidebar BM's don't load on single-click anymore; and
 a double-click load the BM in a new window - bummer :(

 --

 Regards,

 Peter Lairo







Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread dnar

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:36:28 +0800, Chocobo_greens convulsed, beat the
crap out of keyboard, then stranged a chook.

endless bant and dribble removed

Yawn.

-- 
dnar of TheGenomeCollective. http://www.thegenomecollective.com/
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
8:00pm up 1 day, 3:14, 1 user, load average: 2.03, 2.16, 2.16
...Debug is human, de-fix divine.




Re: command line help bug

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 Anthony Ewell wrote:
 
  mozilla -help(or try --help)   or,
  netscape -help

 But, neither one of these works.
 
 
 
 If you try this on Windows 9x, you must do it this way:
 
   mozilla -help  mozhelü
   type mozhelp
 

wouldn't it be much easier to simply use mozilla -help | more ?

-- 
Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P

   4th Age webmaster  designer -  www.4th-age.com
Webprogrammer for hire
:wq





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Re: Tabs on startup

2001-12-08 Thread Andrea Monni

Greg Treantos wrote:

  Is it possible to have multiple tabs with different website open on 
 startup with mozilla?


You should install Multizilla: http://multizilla.mozilla.org

 


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Re: WTF! mozilla, [binary]

2001-12-08 Thread Jonas Jørgensen

Roope Lehmuslehto wrote:

 Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 Why on earth did the developers choose such a blatantly political (and
 many cases offensive) symbol? is their intention to offend or insult?

 1. You have been brainwashed, by 60' American propaganda films.
 2. Read more history, from books, not from 
 www.anti-kommunism-paranoia-redneck-history.com
 3. Get a grip
 4. Ger a life
 5. I you are not still comfortable with Mozilla's symbol, go to 
 psychiarist.
 
 After that i hope that you can think actually with your _own_ brains.

[snip very funny picture]

*LOL*!!! :-))

/Jonas





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Problem downloading Yahoo Groups pages using Save Link As

2001-12-08 Thread Edward C. Jones

I am having trouble saving Yahoo Group message pages.
For example, here is the url for a typical message:

a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sixthscale/message/9096;
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sixthscale/message/9096/a

If I try to download the HTML for some message in a Yahoo Group using 
right click / Save Link As, I get a small binary file. If I display 
the page, then put it into the Composer, and save it from there, I do 
get the HTML for the page. Why does Save Link As not work for thest pages?

Thanks,
Ed Jones





Re: Mozilla logo

2001-12-08 Thread Chris Lee

Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
So if you are a developer with a problem then produce a fix and go 
through the channels required to fix it. If you are a user and dont like 
it go to one of the distributors (Netscape et all) and use their 
'release' version and if you have problems whith their art work talk to 
them about it.
The art work in mozilla is only a place holder and is not for general use.

So now lets drop this thread and continue with producing the base for a 
great internet aplication suite.





Re: Mozilla logo

2001-12-08 Thread Chris Lee

Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
So if you are a developer with a problem then produce a fix and go 
through the channels required to fix it. If you are a user and dont like 
it go to one of the distributors (Netscape et all) and use their 
'release' version and if you have problems whith their art work talk to 
them about it.
The art work in mozilla is only a place holder and is not for general use.

So now lets drop this thread and continue with producing the base for a 
great internet aplication suite.





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chris Lee

Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
So if you are a developer with a problem then produce a fix and go 
through the channels required to fix it. If you are a user and dont like 
it go to one of the distributors (Netscape et all) and use their 
'release' version and if you have problems whith their art work talk to 
them about it.
The art work in mozilla is only a place holder and is not for general use.

So now lets drop this thread and continue with producing the base for a 
great internet aplication suite.





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chris Lee

Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
So if you are a developer with a problem then produce a fix and go 
through the channels required to fix it. If you are a user and dont like 
it go to one of the distributors (Netscape et all) and use their 
'release' version and if you have problems whith their art work talk to 
them about it.
The art work in mozilla is only a place holder and is not for general use.

So now lets drop this thread and continue with producing the base for a 
great internet aplication suite.





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:

 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist still
 murder thousands in the world under the red star.
 
 /Jonas
 

the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689000/1689997.stm

I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the communist
movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other day.. is that not
murder under the name of communism and the red star?




Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 00:28:43 -0500, DeMoN LaG wrote:

 jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07 Dec
 2001:
 
 Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 02:42:19 -0500, Malodushnikh wrote:
 
 
And the brutal repression of everything not red, white, and blue
begins in America.


  for your information  mozilla!=USA, me!=USA,  communist still murder
  thousands in the world under the red star
 
 
 Thanks, it's nice to know the fanatically politically correct were only
 an American tradition. Just use something else. You are wasting our
 brain cycles.
 
 
 
 Honestly, I think it is *you* who is wasting brain cycles.  With all the
 performance and other work that needs to be done, arguing over something
 as dumb, and better yet, easily configurable as an icon is quite stupid.
 Who cares if it is a red star?  Now, if the icon were a red star with a
 communist flag in the middle of it, you'd have an argument.  But hell,
 pick anything in the world and I bet I can find a group of people who
 will be offended by it.  That's life, and that's why you can change the
 icons of programs to whatever you want.
 

i agree that almost everything will offend someone but, i am not trying
to make mozilla politically correct here i personally hate that, 
It is obvious that mozilla is making a political statement when it puts
out stuff like this. 
my problems are this:
1. i cant use mozilla (not nescape version but  mozilla) without the
communst stuff
2.  in many places of world ..maybe not the developed west, having stuff like that
on you is not a good idea esp for your personal saftey. or is mozilla
intended only for a certain elite group?

CAN WE HAVE MOZILLA WITHOUT bANY/b  POLITICAL IMAGES LEFT OR RIGHT?!!




Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chris Lee

Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
So if you are a developer with a problem then produce a fix and go 
through the channels required to fix it. If you are a user and dont like 
it go to one of the distributors (Netscape et all) and use their 
'release' version and if you have problems whith their art work talk to 
them about it.
The art work in mozilla is only a place holder and is not for general use.

So now lets drop this thread and continue with producing the base for a 
great internet aplication suite.





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Shawn Russell

OK I can understand why you don't like the red star then, so change the 
icon yourself or stop using Mozilla. Thats the beauty of Mozilla you can 
change things yourself if you don't like something. If that NOT 
communism I don't know what is.

Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 

Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist still
murder thousands in the world under the red star.

/Jonas


 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689000/1689997.stm
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the communist
 movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other day.. is that not
 murder under the name of communism and the red star?
 





Re: command line help bug

2001-12-08 Thread Anthony Ewell

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 Christian Biesinger wrote:

   mozilla -help  mozhelü



 That should be mozhelp, not mozhelü


   type mozhelp




Hi Zack and Christian,

I was in XP.  I am wondering why --help requires a  redirect to
operate.  You would think the standard output was all that was needed.

   Just for curiosity, I booted into Linux and tried mozilla --help
and
got a huge listing!   (With the powers of unix2dos, I now have a
hard copy I can read in XP.)

   Thank you all for the help!  :)

Many thanks,
--Tony








Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Jonas Jørgensen

Chocobo_greens wrote:
 

Honestly, I think it is *you* who is wasting brain cycles.  With all the
performance and other work that needs to be done, arguing over something
as dumb, and better yet, easily configurable as an icon is quite stupid.
Who cares if it is a red star?  Now, if the icon were a red star with a
communist flag in the middle of it, you'd have an argument.  But hell,
pick anything in the world and I bet I can find a group of people who
will be offended by it.  That's life, and that's why you can change the
icons of programs to whatever you want.

 i agree that almost everything will offend someone but, i am not trying
 to make mozilla politically correct here i personally hate that, 
 It is obvious that mozilla is making a political statement when it puts
 out stuff like this. 
 my problems are this:
 1. i cant use mozilla (not nescape version but  mozilla) without the
 communst stuff
 2.  in many places of world ..maybe not the developed west, having stuff like that
 on you is not a good idea esp for your personal saftey. or is mozilla
 intended only for a certain elite group?
 
 CAN WE HAVE MOZILLA WITHOUT bANY/b  POLITICAL IMAGES LEFT OR RIGHT?!!


With all due respect, sir, please STFU. No offence intended.

/Jonas





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Malodushnikh

I insist that you prove that this decreases Mozilla's usage.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Malodushnikh wrote:
 
  If they're that offensive to you, go use another browser.
  
 
 They aren't offensive to me, but nor would icons of the WTC be offensive 
 to me. But Mozilla should be a browser for everyone, not just people who 
 are not offended by these symbols.
 
 If you were running a shop, would you cover the wall with offensive 
 posters? I doubt it, in most shops that would decrease sales and damage 
 your image. The same should be true with Mozilla.
 
 Ian






How to Delete Duplcate Emails

2001-12-08 Thread G. Singer

For various reasons, I've accumulated duplicate emails in my Inbox. Does 
anyone know of any automated way to delete duplicate emails? For 
instance: some third party software?

Thanks in advance,

Gary





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:16:23 -0500, Malodushnïkh wrote:

 Killing and death happen everywhere in the world irrespective of
 ideology. Ask the people of Southeast Asia how many innocent millions
 died there under American bombs.
 

right, so we shouldnt have any american images in Mozilla, i agree with
you 100% if that is what you are trying to say. 
Similarly we shouldnt have any communist images.   NETURAL IMAGES.. can
you understand that




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001: 

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:16:23 -0500, Malodushnïkh wrote:
 
 Killing and death happen everywhere in the world irrespective of
 ideology. Ask the people of Southeast Asia how many innocent
 millions died there under American bombs.
 
 
 right, so we shouldnt have any american images in Mozilla, i agree
 with you 100% if that is what you are trying to say. 
 Similarly we shouldnt have any communist images.   NETURAL IMAGES..
 can you understand that
 

There is no such thing.  No matter what you pick, something will be 
offensive to some group of people.  

-- 
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AIM: FlyersR1 9
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_ = m




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like
 communist still murder thousands in the world under the
 red star. 
 
 /Jonas
 
 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like
 this: 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689
 000/1689997.stm 
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the
 communist movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the
 other day.. is that not murder under the name of communism
 and the red star? 

The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist movemenet 
in Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely used by a lot of 
people for a lot of reasons.

Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen; for 
you it's an unfortuante association, for others it's reminiscent 
of trips accross country, with stops at Texaco stations.

Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.

-- 
}:-)   Christopher Jahn
{:-( Dionysian Reveler
  
All things come to him who waits... As long as he works like 
hell while he waits.
 
To reply: xjahnATyahooDOTcom




applications/x-shockwave-flash

2001-12-08 Thread David Loszewski

so how do I install it on FreeBSD? I tried doing it through the ports 
and it said it couldn't find netscape and tried downloading the linux 
version from the flash.com site and wouldn't install because couldn't 
find my linux kernel because I'm running FreeBSD.  Ideas?

Dave




Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9utp4j$1cd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9utp4j$1cd$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001: 
 1. i cant use mozilla (not nescape version but  mozilla) without
 the communst stuff

There is no Communist stuff.  It's a star with a dragon head in it.  
If it were a Nazi logo or something, you would have a case.  But it is 
not a Communist logo.  It was not intended to be a communist logo, nor 
was it made to match any existing communist images.

 2.  in many places of world ..maybe not the developed west, having
 stuff like that on you is not a good idea esp for your personal
 saftey. or is mozilla intended only for a certain elite group?

I'm sorry, Certain Elite Group?  Of what?  If you live in a country 
that doesn't allow free speech and free expression, what are the odds 
you can *get* a copy of Mozilla off the net without getting in trouble?

 
 CAN WE HAVE MOZILLA WITHOUT bANY/b  POLITICAL IMAGES LEFT OR
 RIGHT?!! 

You are given a choice of icons via your OS.  If you don't like it, 
change it.  I don't see what is so hard to do here

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email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:04:26 -0500, DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9utp4j$1cd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9utp4j$1cd$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001:
 1. i cant use mozilla (not nescape version but  mozilla) without the
 communst stuff
 
 There is no Communist stuff.  It's a star with a dragon head in it. If
 it were a Nazi logo or something, you would have a case.  But it is not
 a Communist logo.  It was not intended to be a communist logo, nor was
 it made to match any existing communist images.
 
 2.  in many places of world ..maybe not the developed west, having
 stuff like that on you is not a good idea esp for your personal saftey.
 or is mozilla intended only for a certain elite group?
 
 I'm sorry, Certain Elite Group?  Of what?  If you live in a country
 that doesn't allow free speech and free expression, what are the odds
 you can *get* a copy of Mozilla off the net without getting in trouble?
 

very high. 

 
 
 You are given a choice of icons via your OS.  If you don't like it,
 change it.  I don't see what is so hard to do here
 

no it is not just the desktop icons, the communist images are in the
about too along with many other places in the program and installer




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:09:02 -0500, DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001:
 
 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:16:23 -0500, Malodushnïkh wrote:
 
 Killing and death happen everywhere in the world irrespective of
 ideology. Ask the people of Southeast Asia how many innocent millions
 died there under American bombs.
 
 
 right, so we shouldnt have any american images in Mozilla, i agree with
 you 100% if that is what you are trying to say. Similarly we shouldnt
 have any communist images.   NETURAL IMAGES.. can you understand that
 
 
 There is no such thing.  No matter what you pick, something will be
 offensive to some group of people.

i agree but there is a diffecence between a red star and say an M logo.
do you agree?




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:47 -0500, Christopher Jahn wrote:

 And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist still
 murder thousands in the world under the red star.
 
 /Jonas
 
 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689
 000/1689997.stm
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the communist
 movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other day.. is that
 not murder under the name of communism and the red star?
 
 The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist movemenet in
 Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely used by a lot of people for
 a lot of reasons.
 
 Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen; for you it's
 an unfortuante association, for others it's reminiscent of trips accross
 country, with stops at Texaco stations.
 
 Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.
 

ok, it may be the texaco logo but tell me, 
do you think this page has no communist inclinations?
look at this:

http://www.mozilla.org/party/2000/




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Shawn Russell

If it really bugs you that much I suggest you use another browser.

Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:47 -0500, Christopher Jahn wrote:
 
 
And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:


On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:




Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist still
murder thousands in the world under the red star.

/Jonas



the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689
000/1689997.stm

I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the communist
movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other day.. is that
not murder under the name of communism and the red star?

The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist movemenet in
Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely used by a lot of people for
a lot of reasons.

Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen; for you it's
an unfortuante association, for others it's reminiscent of trips accross
country, with stops at Texaco stations.

Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.


 
 ok, it may be the texaco logo but tell me, 
 do you think this page has no communist inclinations?
 look at this:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/party/2000/
 





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.

How a stylized Big M (for Mozilla). Make the color light Blue.

DeMoN LaG wrote:
 
 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9utuc0$ia4$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001:
 
  On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 15:16:23 -0500, Malodushnïkh wrote:
 
  Killing and death happen everywhere in the world irrespective of
  ideology. Ask the people of Southeast Asia how many innocent
  millions died there under American bombs.
 
 
  right, so we shouldnt have any american images in Mozilla, i agree
  with you 100% if that is what you are trying to say.
  Similarly we shouldnt have any communist images.   NETURAL IMAGES..
  can you understand that
 
 
 There is no such thing.  No matter what you pick, something will be
 offensive to some group of people.
 
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 AIM: FlyersR1 9
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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9uubak$qu3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9uubak$qu3$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001: 
 There is no such thing.  No matter what you pick, something will
 be offensive to some group of people. 
 
 i agree but there is a diffecence between a red star and say an M
 logo. do you agree?
 

I don't personally see anything wrong with the red star.  The only 
reason it is a communist icon is because *YOU* see it as a communist 
icon.  If that's what you want to see it as, fine, change it.  Tools are 
provided with your OS for changing the icon.  What if I see the red star 
as being a space shuttle going to the moon?  I can't believe you'd get 
offended over something as trivial as an icon.  

Taken from a website Computer Stupidies (http://www.rinkworks.com)
*  Tech Support: All right...now double-click on the File Manager 
icon.
* Customer: That's why I hate this Windows -- because of the icons 
-- I'm a Protestant, and I don't believe in icons.
* Tech Support: Well, that's just an industry term sir. I don't 
believe it was meant to --
* Customer: I don't care about any 'Industry Terms'. I don't 
believe in icons.
* Tech Support: Well...why don't you click on the 'little picture' 
of a file cabinet...is 'little picture' ok?
* Customer: [click]

Do you see how stupid your argument is now?

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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9uubjq$rhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9uubjq$rhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001: 

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:47 -0500, Christopher Jahn wrote:
 
 And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist
 still murder thousands in the world under the red star.
 
 /Jonas
 
 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689
 000/1689997.stm 
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the
 communist movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other
 day.. is that not murder under the name of communism and the red
 star? 
 
 The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist movemenet in
 Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely used by a lot of
 people for a lot of reasons.
 
 Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen; for
 you it's an unfortuante association, for others it's reminiscent
 of trips accross country, with stops at Texaco stations.
 
 Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.
 
 
 ok, it may be the texaco logo but tell me, 
 do you think this page has no communist inclinations?
 look at this:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/party/2000/

I see nothing offensive there.  Nothing in the least.  Perhaps if that 
was Mozilla's startup page you could have a claim.  Until you just 
posted the link, I didn't even know that page existed.  Very offensive, 
a page that I don't know that exists has what you call communist 
inclinations.  Geez.  Someone call the marines, quick

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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 20:08:15 -0500, DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9uubjq$rhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9uubjq$rhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001:
 
 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:47 -0500, Christopher Jahn wrote:
 
 And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like communist still
 murder thousands in the world under the red star.
 
 /Jonas
 
 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like this:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1689
 000/1689997.stm
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of the communist
 movement here. they killed  ~400 people just the other day.. is that
 not murder under the name of communism and the red star?
 
 The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist movemenet in
 Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely used by a lot of people
 for a lot of reasons.
 
 Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen; for you
 it's an unfortuante association, for others it's reminiscent of trips
 accross country, with stops at Texaco stations.
 
 Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.
 
 
 ok, it may be the texaco logo but tell me, do you think this page has
 no communist inclinations? look at this:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/party/2000/
 
 I see nothing offensive there.  Nothing in the least.  Perhaps if that
 was Mozilla's startup page you could have a claim.  Until you just
 posted the link, I didn't even know that page existed.  Very offensive,
 a page that I don't know that exists has what you call communist
 inclinations.  Geez.  Someone call the marines, quick
 


it shows the star in contex,  a year or so ago, THAT stuff was on the
start up screen, it is now shhrunk, and all you see are the smoking
chimneys behind the  dino head on the banner of mozilla.org.




This site doesn't looks good in mozilla

2001-12-08 Thread Andreas J.

Hi folks.

i loaded this site in IE and in Mozilla

http://www.sport1.de/coremedia/generator/www.sport1.de/Main.html

in mozilla it is not displayed right

is the site coded bad or is it mozilla's fault???

greetings, Andi





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:47 -0500, Christopher Jahn wrote:
 
 And it came to pass that Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:17:37 -0500, Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 
 
 
 Fine, but then you should stop saying things like
 communist still murder thousands in the world under the
 red star. 
 
 /Jonas
 
 
 the reason i cant stop saying that is becaue of stuff like
 this: 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_16
 89 000/1689997.stm 
 
 I AM Nepalese and the Mozilla red star is the symbol of
 the communist movement here. they killed  ~400 people just
 the other day.. is that not murder under the name of
 communism and the red star? 
 
 The Mozilla icon has nothing to do with the communist
 movemenet in Nepal.  It is a basic geometric shape widely
 used by a lot of people for a lot of reasons.
 
 Small-minded people need to grasp that coincidences happen;
 for you it's an unfortuante association, for others it's
 reminiscent of trips accross country, with stops at Texaco
 stations. 
 
 Get over yourself and your petty prejudices.
 
 
 ok, it may be the texaco logo but tell me, 
 do you think this page has no communist inclinations?
 look at this:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/party/2000/

No, I don't.  It reminds me of an art style that was popular in 
the 1930's.

Sorry you're wrapped up in your cultural prejudices.

-- 
}:-)   Christopher Jahn
{:-( Dionysian Reveler
  
All things come to him who waits... As long as he works like 
hell while he waits.
 
To reply: xjahnATyahooDOTcom




Re: This site doesn't looks good in mozilla

2001-12-08 Thread Jerry Park

Andreas J. wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 i loaded this site in IE and in Mozilla
 
 http://www.sport1.de/coremedia/generator/www.sport1.de/Main.html
 
 in mozilla it is not displayed right
 
 is the site coded bad or is it mozilla's fault???
 
 greetings, Andi
 

Hard to say. If I try to view the source, mozilla crashes here. (Mozilla 
0.9.6, Windows 2000).





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread CaT

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 05:48:21AM +0100, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 seriously anyways. If I had a uninvent gadget, I'd uninvent two things:
 Religion and Internet explorer :D

Religion? You'd uninvent religion?!

You communist pig-dog bastard.

And never mind IE you anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, anti-democracy
boofhead.

-- 
CaT- A high level of technology does not a civilisation make.




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

CaT wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 05:48:21AM +0100, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 
seriously anyways. If I had a uninvent gadget, I'd uninvent two things:
Religion and Internet explorer :D

 
 Religion? You'd uninvent religion?!
 
 You communist pig-dog bastard.

I'm not communist, just atheist.
But I'm not the kind of atheist that writes off anything not proven in 
science though.

 
 And never mind IE you anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, anti-democracy
 boofhead.

anti-capitalist I can understand, but anti-freedom?? anti-democracy??

IE is not about freedom and democracy, IMHO, it's about monopoly...


Oh crap... I seem to have inadvertently created some flamebait :(

It was a _joke_ damnit. I don't like IE, and I don't believe in gods 
either, but it was still just a joke.

-- 
Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P

   4th Age webmaster  designer -  www.4th-age.com
Webprogrammer for hire
:wq





Mozilla link problem at nytimes.com

2001-12-08 Thread Ric

Hi,

I was perusing the nytimes.com website but kept encountering 
this problem:

Alert!
Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Loading aborted.

I get this for *any* link I try on that site, with moz Win 
build  2001120808. Is this a problem with the nightly? The 
site works fine in Netscape 4.78.

--
ric





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

CaT wrote:

 So was my post. Next time I have a debate about wether or not to put any
 smilies in I'll decide to put em in. :)
okay :)


Completely off topic though;
Why is my mailaddress showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]??
I've set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... *ponder*
-- 
Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P

   4th Age webmaster  designer -  www.4th-age.com
Webprogrammer for hire
:wq





Re: This site doesn't looks good in mozilla

2001-12-08 Thread Malodushnikh

Looks fine to me in Mozilla 0.9.6.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andreas J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 i loaded this site in IE and in Mozilla
 
 http://www.sport1.de/coremedia/generator/www.sport1.de/Main.html
 
 in mozilla it is not displayed right
 
 is the site coded bad or is it mozilla's fault???
 
 greetings, Andi






Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:48:21 -0500, Morten Nilsen wrote:

 Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 it shows the star in contex,  a year or so ago, THAT stuff was on the
 start up screen, it is now shhrunk, and all you see are the smoking
 chimneys behind the  dino head on the banner of mozilla.org.
 
 
 
 I think somebody made that page as a gag, playing on communist symbolism
 or not,

nope its not a joke




Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:48:21 -0500, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 
 
Chocobo_greens wrote:


it shows the star in contex,  a year or so ago, THAT stuff was on the
start up screen, it is now shhrunk, and all you see are the smoking
chimneys behind the  dino head on the banner of mozilla.org.




I think somebody made that page as a gag, playing on communist symbolism
or not,

 
 nope its not a joke
 

To you, maybe not... But I'm not talking about you, or anyone at all.
_except_ the person who _made_ the page.

... and besides, can't we leave this alone now? If it is unbearable, 
just kill the graphic or kill mozilla or whatever :)
The graphic isn't a political statement on the behalf of netscape or 
mozilla.
hey here's a possible explanation: (this _is_ a joke!!)
some drooling marketing zombie thought it might attract users in 
communist circles.

I'll go sit in the corner now... I'm just crazy
-- 
Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P

   4th Age webmaster  designer -  www.4th-age.com
Webprogrammer for hire
:wq





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Malodushnikh

Take a hike, bozo.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
  On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:48:21 -0500, Morten Nilsen wrote:
  
  
 Chocobo_greens wrote:
 
 
 it shows the star in contex,  a year or so ago, THAT stuff was on the
 start up screen, it is now shhrunk, and all you see are the smoking
 chimneys behind the  dino head on the banner of mozilla.org.
 
 
 
 
 I think somebody made that page as a gag, playing on communist symbolism
 or not,
 
  
  nope its not a joke
  
 
 To you, maybe not... But I'm not talking about you, or anyone at all.
 _except_ the person who _made_ the page.
 
 ... and besides, can't we leave this alone now? If it is unbearable, 
 just kill the graphic or kill mozilla or whatever :)
 The graphic isn't a political statement on the behalf of netscape or 
 mozilla.
 hey here's a possible explanation: (this _is_ a joke!!)
 some drooling marketing zombie thought it might attract users in 
 communist circles.
 
 I'll go sit in the corner now... I'm just crazy





Re: This site doesn't looks good in mozilla

2001-12-08 Thread Phil Sweeney

Andreas J. wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 i loaded this site in IE and in Mozilla
 
 http://www.sport1.de/coremedia/generator/www.sport1.de/Main.html
 
 in mozilla it is not displayed right

It appears fine in the latest nightly build.

Phil





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Peter Trudelle

Mozilla development is for users.  Mozilla.org is itself a distributor. 
 Some of the artwork may be considered to be a placeholder, but most of 
the UI is intended for real use, and is kept largely intact  by other 
distributors.

However, I agree that time spent arguing about the red star is wasted.  

Peter

Chris Lee wrote:

 Mozilla is a development project and not for users in the first place.
 ... If you are a user and dont like it go to one of the distributors ...
 So now lets drop this thread ...







Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Henri Sivonen

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Malodushnikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Take a hike, bozo.

Why do you think the red star is so important that it is worth to tell 
anyone to take a hike because of it?

-- 
Henri Sivonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/