Re: Welcome to About Crib Notes

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

L-Soft list server at About.com (1.8d) wrote:
 blablablablabla

now then, which moron thought it would be a good idea to spam 
npm.general with about.com's mailing lists?

If I find out, I will... get creative :)

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Re: LANCER!!!

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
 I believe Lancer deserves some punishment for subscribing
 this newsgroup to all these About.com mailing lists!
 
 Can't anyone do something about this troll?
 
 
 

Lancer has shown gross examples of abuse, and I suggest somebody find 
every ISP he uses/can use and send an abuse report to them.

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Re: Blaargh [Was: blabla ZDNet blabla]

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Morten Nilsen wrote:
 Your subscription request wrote:
 
 Request received at: ZDNet.com
 Time of request: Tue Mar 26 15:11:08 2002 EST
 IP address received: 63.36.222.4
 
 
 muahaha... we have his IP and time of day!
 

UUNET Technologies, Inc. (NETBLK-NETBLK-UUNET97DU)
3060 Williams Drive, Suite 601
Fairfax, va 22031
US

Netname: NETBLK-UUNET97DU
Netblock: 63.0.0.0 - 63.63.255.255
Maintainer: UUDA

Coordinator:
   UUNET, Technical Support  (OA12-ARIN)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (800) 900-0241

okay, who will write them?
I suggest someone with a position of importance @mozilla.org

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Re: About Mailing Lists

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Martin Fritsche wrote:
 Very good.
 I vote for legal action. This not fun anymore.
 

*anymore*? was it ever fun? :P

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Re: Open letter to mailing list perpetrator

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Rupert James wrote:
an excellent letter

I agree wholehartedly. But I frankly don't believe that the person 
(henceforth the troll) who did this really will listen to that :/
I imagine the troll is sitting in front of it's computer scovering the 
net for high volume mailing lists to subscribe to.
snickering at the sight of npm.general beeing flooded with absolute junk

And I imagine that he will feel the wrath of many, as he has revealed 
his IP and time of subscription (as I posted earlier)
it should then simply be a matter of writing a polite and well informed 
letter to his ISP (in that one case), and things will happen.

If mozilla.org approaches them, they might obtain his name and address, 
and can then do nifty stuff like sending a lawyer by *grin*

but first of all, if everyone on this list who dislikes this abuse by 
the troll write his ISP, he will most likely be shout out, and be 
blacklisted. I imagine his ISP might have a contract with him that makes 
the troll liable for it's crimes. (I'm no law expert, so...)

I encourage everyone who love mozilla to send good letters to his ISP, 
with good documentation of his acts.

Once again, for the record, here is the contact information of his ISP, 
as revealed by whois;

UUNET Technologies, Inc.
3060 Williams Drive, Suite 601
Fairfax, va 22031
US

UUNET, Technical Support  (OA12-ARIN)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 900-0241

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Re: Open letter to mailing list perpetrator

2002-03-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Martin Fritsche wrote:
 Maybe a native speaker could write a good one and post it here?
 

I pass, tho I consider my english quite good (at least written english)
my native tongue is norwegian, and I might miss a few finer points of
english formal letters

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Re: www.unique.to/eskimo

2002-03-25 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jay Garcia wrote:
 What's the question ???
 

seems like he thinks this is npm.public-annonce :P

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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-23 Thread Morten Nilsen

Garth Wallace wrote:
 Wasn't talking about words English has borrowed from German or 
 vice-versa. Japanese has plenty of loanwords (from English mainly, but 
 also from German and other Western languages), but the native words are 
 totally unrelated and familiarity with any Western language will not 
 help you learn them. There's no way to predict which Western concepts 
 would be expressed in Japanese with a loanword or by building from 
 Japanese roots: for instance, bicycle in Japanese is jitensha, but 
 bus is basu. Building, which you'd think Japanese would have a 
 term for, is merely biru (shortened from birudingu; not to be 
 confused with biiru with a long i, which is beer).
 

Another example (ref Gundam X); Satelito System

Anime rocks!
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Re: Must fix for 1.0?

2002-03-20 Thread Morten Nilsen

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
 The Minimize Bug (120155) is only marked mozilla1.0, without the +.
 Does this mean we are willing to ship Mozilla 1.0 with a bug as visible
 and annoying as this? I hope not.

no, mozilla1.0- means that...
mozilla1.0 simply means it's been nominated for 1.0, but no triaging (or 
whatever they call it :) has been done on the bug yet.

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Re: ? all-browsers-display-different-problem ?

2002-03-18 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jo'ogn (J. Oppermann) wrote:
 hi, i have to cope with web-design that should show on most
 browsers equal results. (esp. NS4.79, NS6, IE5, IE6)
 
 as even the interpretation of fontsizes defer i was wondering
 if there's sth like a bug, or interpretation comparsion
 between browsers that would save me nerves and even more time.
 

one thing I find to help the situation, is to use px for font sizes...
off course, different computers have different fonts, so...

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Re: test -- please ignore

2002-03-18 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jim Gosney wrote:
 testing storage of sent items to newsgroups in sent items folder
 

please don't use npm.general for tests...
that is what npm.test is there for!

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Re: Download manager

2002-03-18 Thread Morten Nilsen

Roope Lehmuslehto wrote:
 
 3. Shutdown (your OS here) after done button.

nah.. at least not for unixes

anyways, the download manager has been well speced by mpt, and his spec 
shows where this is supposed to end up...

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Re: full full screen

2002-03-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:
 Not like there is fullscreening on Linux.
 

Sure there is!
it works excellent too, just see here;
http://4th-age.com/dr_p/screenshot.jpg
I made that screenshot in enlightenment, with a trunk build right before 
0.9.9 was released...
and 0.9.9 behaves the same way now, except it doesn't have xinerama 
compiled in, thus making it fullscreen over both my screens (which is 
unusable)

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Re: full full screen

2002-03-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Sören Kuklau wrote:
 The full screen implementations for non-win32 platforms are still in the 
 works.
 

The fullscreen implementation as it is is just fine for use with 
enlightenment (see screenshot) what I want now, is to map the F11 key, 
so I can use it...

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Re: full full screen

2002-03-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Sören Kuklau wrote:
 Well... it won't be mapped again until it's fully implemented.
 

I'd be happy with mapping it locally, but last time I asked, I didn't 
get anywhere (I'm using mozilla built from cvs btw)

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Re: Solved: Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page

2002-03-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Parish wrote:
 Anti-spam e-mail address, change _AT_, sorry for the inconvenience

when you change your antispam scheme, you should update your .sig ;)

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Re: full full screen

2002-03-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Bamm Gabriana wrote:

 Hi,
 
 The latest milestone no longer has the title bar in full screen mode. It
 does
 have a full screen toolbar but that can be hidden as well. If you are using
 0.9.8 then I suggest you try 0.9.9.
 
 If you want to hack at it, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is in
 charge of the code for full screen mode and he will be happy to have more
 people helping out.

speaking of fullscreen... why is the milestone built without xinerama 
support? it makes fullscreening on linux with dualhead useless...

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Re: AOL sez goodbye to IE (yes, IE)

2002-03-11 Thread Morten Nilsen

Dan Howard wrote:
 
 And the best part of the whole deal (considering I'll never be an AOL 
 user)?
 

a greater userbase for gecko?

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Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Lancer Charade wrote:
 
 i guess 'back' 'forward' 'stop' 'reload' are like the controls of the 
 ship. Home is a place.
 

playing with the fullscreen mode in linux, I really missed the home 
button...

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Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Lancer Charade wrote:
 collapse the menu before go to fullscreen. Works in windows... may you 
 can get too the menu in Full Screen Mode.
 
 And like i said when i discoverd it, now i have a wonderful classic 
 desktop enviroment in this ~¡·%$'#¬¿*+ windows.
 

Yeah, I've seen your posts :) but having the home button in the 
navigation toolbar eliminates the necessity of such trickery :)

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Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Parish wrote:
 
 Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Naviga

dude, that was his point.

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Re: Nutscrape 6 Spyware??? -- you bet it isn't !!!

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jay Garcia wrote:
 You have NO idea who I am if all you have to go on is my IP address !!!
 Geeze, where to you people come up with this stuff ??
 

If you commited some form of serious breach of generic ISP rules 
(abuse), the IP would be enough to get your identity, but that's hardly 
relevant in this case tho :)
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Re: full screen toolbar.....

2002-03-09 Thread Morten Nilsen

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
 He is refering to the Navigation Toolbar in Full Screen mode.
 It's really pretty and I wish I had the option to make it my
 default navigation toolbar, even without full screen mode.

memory serving me, that can be done with a bit of user css,
but I can't point you in the right way tho

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Re: Netscape snooping on search terms from Netscape6

2002-03-09 Thread Morten Nilsen

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
 
 Binaries are made available for testing purposes only.

Or as I look at it;
Binaries are provided for those who are unable to compile themselves..
such as most windows users out there.

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Re: Full screen in Mozilla

2002-03-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Pratik wrote:
 
 Quite Nice! Doesn't look that bad on linux.

heck no, I didn't see any problems with it on my cvs build,
it did exactly what I would expect of a fullscreen mode (I'm using 
enlightenment btw)

Only thing I didn't like about it was a 1px gray line at the bottom, and 
the sidebar didn't disappear, but that prolly isn't that bad an idea...
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Re: Full screen in Mozilla

2002-03-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Morten Nilsen wrote:
 heck no, I didn't see any problems with it on my cvs build,
 it did exactly what I would expect of a fullscreen mode (I'm using 
 enlightenment btw)
 
 Only thing I didn't like about it was a 1px gray line at the bottom, and 
 the sidebar didn't disappear, but that prolly isn't that bad an idea...

here's a screenshot of what it looks like on my dualhead pc (the second 
head is running at 800x600 with xawtv on it) it illustrates that mozilla 
even handles dualhead like it should in fullscreen mode :)

http://4th-age.com/dr_p/screenshot.jpg
... oh, and the url in the urlbar is a local address not accessible from 
the internet
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Re: Full screen in Mozilla

2002-03-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

just as I posted that message, mozilla crashed *g*

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Re: New Skin for 1.0

2002-03-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Lancer wrote:
 More abundant?! ...Oh no please! Have you seen that thing which name is 
 WOOD, his author dare to call that a Mozilla Theme...
 

wood qualifies the author to a round at the hague tribunal IMHO :)

 And no... I hope that no happen, I am full with all the trash generated 
 by Winamp 2.x
 

the beauty of the abundance of skins is that everyone can find _the_ 
theme they love...
personally, I haven't strayed from the skin named 'lime' and am still 
using it with xmms in linux.

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Re: Look at that -- make SPAM illegal - finally!

2002-03-06 Thread Morten Nilsen

Peter Lairo wrote:
 It is high time an effective law is passed prohibiting spam. This seems 
 to be a no-bariner to me.
 
 I would vote a politician into office on this issue alone, as long as 
 he/she isn't a real jerk.
 

We in norway have an anti-spam law now :) if one breaks it, one is 
liable for as much as two years in prison :)
... of course, it is limited to spam directed at an induvidual consumer, 
so it's still legal to spam businesses

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Re: chromelist.txt broken on Win32 (was: Patch Maker version 2.0beta1 released)

2002-02-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
 Here is a random line from the chromelist.txt in the latest Win32 build:
 
 en-US\locale\en-US\navigator\viewSource.dtd 
 (xpfe/browser/resources\locale\en-US\viewSource.dtd)
 
 What are those backslashes in the second path doing there? Patch Maker 
 doesn't like them - it gives me errors about being unable to find the 
 CVS equivelent whenever I try to add a file!

FYI; \ = backslash / = slash ...
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Re: What is best fileformat (and settings) for screenshots?

2002-02-19 Thread Morten Nilsen

Peter Lairo wrote:
 Sören Kuklau wrote:
 
 Why tend to GIF when you can use PNG :-)
 
 
 What are the technical differences between GIF and PNG?
 
 
 Feature: |  GIF  |  PNG
 ---
 32 bit   |   |
 16 bit   |   |
 8  bit   |   |
 compression  |   |
 others?  |   |
 
 

Two others:
PNG: alpha channel
GIF: bad licensing

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Re: mozilla crash

2002-02-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Parish wrote:
 Christian Biesinger wrote
 Works for me, CVS build from yesterday on Linux
 And me, W2K and FreeBSD 4.5
 

Allready fixed then, just as I thought

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mozilla crash

2002-02-09 Thread Morten Nilsen

I'm using a tad stale cvs build, but will try with a newer one later 
sometime (my ISDN is overburdened atm)

http://4th-age.com right click in the page, select page info...
click the media tab, and down she goes (sometimes it's delayed it seems)

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Re: Lies, damn lies, and MozillaZine?

2002-01-22 Thread Morten Nilsen

Sören Kuklau wrote:
 Neil M. wrote:

 MozillaZine is the only site it's happening on and other people in the 
 forums are having the same problem.
 
 Yup, this happens from time to time on MozillaZine. Definitly a Mozilla 
 bug. Maybe the MozillaZine CSS should be simplified or so too though.
 

Why don't you people crop your replies?
I believe that the doc on w.m.o says one should do so...
and it makes for easier reading too.

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Re: Is there a way to read mail as text and not HTML?

2002-01-22 Thread Morten Nilsen

Myself wrote:
 
 Michael H. Warfield wrote:

 Okkk...  An there there are web bugs.  The little goodies that
 pull a special identifying image from their web site identifying your
 E-Mail address as a good one and worth putting on their platinum we've
 qualified this address as good list that they sell to other spammers.
 Reading spam in an HTML enabled reader is an incredibly good way to
 increase your spam traffic.  The more you get the more you are qualified.


I've pretty much resolved that tracking technique locally...
I run a transparent proxy (squid) with phroggy's bannerfilter installed 
(www.phroggy.com)
Now, most of the images is replaced with BLOCKED :)

 
 Ok, I'll bite. You said plenty - you listed one - webbugs.
 You can go offline before reading a message.
 

Like the other two boys said, no thank you.
and besides, what if your mail account is an IMAP server?
how are you going to access your email while offline then exactly?

 Have you considered a typewriter, some paper and some white-out?
 I've never understood this e-mail must only be plain text thing...

Do you realize how many people out there doesn't have a html-enabled 
mailreader?
like mutt, pine, mail or even telnet?

And besides, more often than not, html mail contains ugly fonts/colors 
and is spam.
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Re: Is there a way to read mail as text and not HTML?

2002-01-22 Thread Morten Nilsen

Myself wrote:
 
 
snip
Why oh why do you insist on twisting everything around?
mailnews is NOT related to newspapers, books, web, foo, bar or baz.
Just because my local paper uses a red font on green background, news
shouldn't do the same.
news (usenet) is a completely different medium from a newspaper.
or a book.

usenet is a plaintext medium... allways has been, allways will be.

mail is historically also a plaintext medium, and many like it that way.
some wants to format their text with 20pt heigh italic fonts, and weird
backgrounds and whatnot ... but I don't want to see any such formatting.
it's just plain ugly.

I have a monospace font in mozilla mailnews. at a fixed size.
I like it that way, and don't want anyone to force me to see different
formatting than the one I selected.

I'm sure this won't be enough to satisfy you and stop this discussion,
but I think this whole thread has gotten into the state of beeing an
endless loop of trolling and bitchslapping. or something like that :)
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Re: Is there a way to read mail as text and not HTML?

2002-01-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

David Simpson wrote:
 
 I'm obviously not one of your clients then. The only HTML mail I
 receive is SPAM and I don't want that at all. Plain text for me every
 day.

I almost scream out in disgust when I recieve html mail,
or read a html post to usenet.

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Re: How to access bookmarks from mail window in Netscape 6.2

2002-01-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

Alex wrote:
 In 4.7, in the mail window, I went to menu and clicked on Communicator, then
 Bookmarks.  Is there an equivalent in 6.2?
 

And you thought this was such a gem of interest you posted it four times? :)

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Re: Is Mozilla red Communist?

2002-01-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Ian Hickson wrote:
 JTK wrote:
   Trolling wrote:
   [...]
 
 [...]
 
 
 LOL! JTK replying to a troll! Now that's classic.
 

yeah, and I'm killing this thread too :)
I'm really sick of this noise y'know

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Re: do you like Open in New Tab feather?

2002-01-15 Thread Morten Nilsen

ooh! a feather! so light and soft /nonsense

yes it's a very nice feature :)

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help browser spec -- feedback requested

2002-01-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

I've made a spec for the coming help browser. I placed it on
http://hadelug.org/help.html a while back.

I would like to ask for a bit of feedback on it now.

It's still a draft, and I will make a better replacement for the ASCII
art sometime soon.

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Re: LittleMozilla is updated for latest builds (0.9.8-)

2002-01-09 Thread Morten Nilsen

Andrea Monni wrote:

 Alfred Kayser wrote:
 

 The red-star is also visible in the 'About/Mozilla', which shows that the
 red-star is a Mozilla logo, which makes Mozilla a communist product?
 
 
 
 You didn't know Mozilla to be a communist product? It's an opensource 
 program... all opensource softwares are communist and Mozilla uses 
 communist icons too, so it's communist twice!
 
 Andrea

No, no, no, no, no... not this discussion again.
can we please drop this before yet another thread gets out of hand?

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Re: Why does cut and paste work

2002-01-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Ian Davey wrote:

 Press both mouse buttons at the same time,

... If 3ButtonMouseEmulation is on ...

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Re: Emails received

2001-12-31 Thread Morten Nilsen

BillieEddie wrote:

 How can I get an icon at the bottom left to show me that I have email when I open
 Communicator 7.59?  Thanks, Eddie Walker
 
 

That's just not possible, seeing as Communicator 7.59 hasn't been made..
If you however mean Netscape Communicator 4.79, this newsgroup is 
offtopic. It is for the discussion of the opensource Mozilla project.
http://www.mozilla.org

Try this newsgroup:
snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.communicator

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Re: OT Re: How do I clear the master password in Netscape 6?

2001-12-31 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jay Garcia wrote:

 Curious ...
 
 
 Dave posted the same URL's basically but didn't include them in   like
 you did. Why do you do that? I've asked this same question many times
 with no satisfactory responses. I also note that you do not enclose the
 URL's in your sig with   ... ???
 
 I notice no ill effects in any posts with or without the   

It's just a way of writing url's that he's accustomed to...
the same as I enclose almost all links on my website in [ ]

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Re: Mozilla crash/boom on image map

2001-12-29 Thread Morten Nilsen

Sören Kuklau wrote:

A site that totaly fails with Moz (undoubtably written for IE)
http://www.irwintoy.com/

 
 Works fine for me.
 

It didn't WFM ... did you click the ReBoot image to open a new window?
that window is rather broken...
but it seems the site is sending NS-specific code...
the source sources a file named NSscrollbars.js and uses layer

A tech evangelism bug should be filed.

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Re: Mouse disappears in address line -- XP only

2001-12-28 Thread Morten Nilsen

Anthony Ewell wrote:

 Hi All,
 
I am running Netscape 6.2.1 on both XP Professional and
 NT 4.0, sp6a on the same (multiboot) machine.  In XP, when I move
 the mouse to the browser address line (http://blah blah blah),
 the mouse disappears.  In NT, I get the straight up and down
 line that shows me where I am editing.
 
Anyone know how to cure this?

I've never used XP, and I pray I'll never have to either :)
but I think there is a function Hide my mouse while I'm typing
somewhere in there...

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Re: (fwd) MSIE for PC REAL hotkeys

2001-12-28 Thread Morten Nilsen

ROTFLMAO!!

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Re: Mouse disappears in address line -- XP only

2001-12-28 Thread Morten Nilsen

Anthony Ewell wrote:

 
I do believe XP stands for e-XP-ensive.  Especially since
 I had to replace a perfectly functional SCSI card (Linux
 may now have passed Windows in hardware support).
 


Yeah... there are some network adaptors (Unex 10/100 (RTL8139))
which are supported natively by linux, as windows needs a driver disk to
use them...

 
 but I think there is a function Hide my mouse while I'm typing
 somewhere in there...
 
I tried it -- didn't help.  I do believe I should have
 worded my original post a little more clearly.  It is the
 cursor that disappears.  The mouse does too, but that may
 only be coincidence.

Sorry... can't help you then...

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Re: Close Button on Tabs

2001-12-27 Thread Morten Nilsen

Helge Hielscher wrote:

 
 Why dont you use the middle mouse button for closing tabs? IMHO it is 
 much more convinient.

I can't do that... because if I do, mozilla opens whatever I had 
selected the last time as an URL...(X mouse)

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Re: mozilla automatically unzip zipfile during download

2001-12-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Volker Dormeyer wrote:

 Hi,
 
 mozilla automatically does an unzip of zipped files during download.
 I. e. If I download a gziped file via http or ftp it will be gunziped by
 mozilla. Is there any way to stop that behaviour?

Weird... my mozilla doesn't...
I suppose it is a helper app you've installed that does it...
check edit preferences Navigator Helper Applications

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Re: Close Button on Tabs

2001-12-26 Thread Morten Nilsen

Gunnar S wrote:

 David W. Fenton wrote:
 Me too ;-) Yep, the clickable area should be bigger, and the close 
 button could be nicer. I also like this feature pretty much.

Actually, the X is raised now...
Don't remember if this went in for 0.9.7, but it is on the trunk.

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Re: Tabbed Browsing problem

2001-12-24 Thread Morten Nilsen

DeMoN LaG wrote:

 I see the same behavior, I'd look for/file a bug on it.  Dunno when this 
 stopped working, didn't know it existed until the other day and never 
 tried it until you just posted :/

I seem to remember that this was never implemented, and thus never worked...
but it will, someday...

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Re: Microsoft Q A

2001-12-24 Thread Morten Nilsen

Chuck Messenger wrote:

 
 I think it's more like, they want to lock in their users with 
 proprietary formats.  Supporting open standards works against that goal. 
  If there's such a groundswell that they're _forced_ to, only then will 
 they support open standards.  Even then, they'll try to corrupt the open 
 standards, with proprietary extensions.

I think that prety much covers everything they've done with Internet 
Explorer past 1.0
talking about IE 1.0, that was a fun experience :)
no frames, only one download at a time (including loading a page)

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Re: Strange rendering

2001-12-24 Thread Morten Nilsen

Travis Crump wrote:

 Looking at the source, they use some strange hack of using layers for IE 
 and divs for netscape/Mozilla which sort of begs the question of why not 
 just use divs for all browsers since all browsers support them if they 
 think the divs work...
 
Wagh! horrible horrible code...


I suggest a tech evangelism bug be filed asap! :)

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Re: how to disable unwanted pop-up windows,etc

2001-12-24 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 No, it does not exist in the trunk.

hmm... my bad, I just remembered I applied the patch for the prefs to my
cvs build... so It doesn't exist in the trunk, but my trunk build has it

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Re: RPM versions gone?

2001-12-24 Thread Morten Nilsen

John F. Kohler wrote:

 I have the version of mozilla that came with my distribution of
 Red Hat 7.2 and after installation I went to the website for
 Mozilla.
 
 I had seen the RPM version of Mozilla in the past, but could
 not find one now.
 
 I understand how to install an RPM version, but I need help
 with tar and zip formats.  I do not understand the
 xpi extension format.
 


.xpi are cross-platform installer, they are handled by mozilla itself.
The reason you can't find an .rpm is most likely that nobody have made
one yet.
as for tar, read 'man tar'...
the short tale of how to extract tar.gz files; tar -zxvpf file.tar.gz

Hope that helps...

 
 I would appreciate any help from anyone.

Your welcome.

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Re: Microsoft Q A

2001-12-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

Pratik wrote:

 Okay, this discussion is going on in the thread It's December 14th 
 again! 


And the discussion has been going on and out of control for quite some 
time now, in several threads...

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Re: Mozilla logo

2001-12-21 Thread Morten Nilsen

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:

 
 
 
 Subject:
 
 Re: Mozilla logo
 From:
 
 Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:
 
 Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:57:08 -0500
 
 Newsgroups:
 
 netscape.public.mozilla.general,netscape.public.mozilla.ui
 
 
 
 DeMoN LaG wrote:
 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 20 Dec 2001:

Let me ask a really Dumb question it hasn't stopped me before.
Please explain why a person that is using a strictly text only
reader such as Newswatcher (for mac) is posting in a newsgroup for/
and working on Mozilla which in addition to a web Browser is
capable of sending receiving html formatted mail?

Because I like Xnews.  I like it's filtering options.  I like it's
interface.  This is what your posts look like to me (and any other plain
texters out there):

!doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en
html
basic wrote:
div style=margin-left:10;nbsp;
brNah! lets take down mozilla.org and everything to do with mozilla
and
breven send out a worm/virus to erase all traces of mozilla on the
web.
brThat way we wouldn't offend anybody with any symbol or colour or
text
or
brspelling or whatever.
pOr we could subsitute the following for logo and get over it.
pimg SRC=cid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; BORDER=0 height=
71 width=70
brnbsp;
pbasic

You honestly expect me to read that?  You expect anyone who doesn't use
an HTML rendering client to read that?  USEnet, except for binary
groups, has always been plain text no attachments, I see no reason to
change this to HTML and pictures.
--
ICQ: N/A (temporarily)
AIM: FlyersR1 9
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_ = m

 
 Can view jpeg or .gif attachements?
 
 What if someone want to post something to the group for example the
 sample logo's for other to see and get an opinion on. how do you view such?


One posts an url to them, or go find a binary group...

 
 I live in the 21st century. And the 21st century will be far more visual
 than the 21st.


really? I thought the 21st century was exactly the same as the 21st 
century...

 
 look explosion of CD's and DVD's how even TV's is going digital.
 
 I just can't imagine any one wishing to stay stuck in 1960. Having to
 use text only in 1960 was ideal because modems were in the 300 baud
 range. Just 6 -7 years ago i was using a 1200baud modem.
 
 Today I am using DSL. Its at the lostest end of the DSL spectrum due to
 my distance from Phone company office. But it is DSL and its about 8
 times faster than my 56K modem. 
 
 My current computer has a 23gb Hard drive and 1.5 gb's of System RAM. My
 first Mac an SE/30 original came with a 40 mb hard drive and 1 mb system RAM.
 
 WE all have to keep up with times or we will be left behind. The world
 is not Black and white. Its amazing what it looks like in color.
 

Why do you have a problem with following the _agreed upon_ rules for
posting to newsgroups?
I use mozilla, but I still hate it when I get html mail, or see 
newspostings in html... it's annoying in my eyes...
esp. since html mail almost allways comes in a _tiny_ font...

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Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Claude Gohier wrote:

 Because for non-US keyboads, the right alt key is used as a special key 
 to get accented characters... So, we must use the left alt key, and both 
 hands.

*gasp* you use a mouse? :)

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Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Neil wrote:

 Since space duplicates PgDn, IMHO Backspace should (if anything) 
 duplicate PgUp...
 

And I think backspace shouldn't do anything but delete characters to the 
left...

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Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:

 Doh! Of course.
 
 I agree that it would be good to have an easier shortcut for 
 back/forward than alt+arrow keys, but backspace is a very bad choice. We 
 need to find something that doesn't cause confusion and dataloss. Any 
 ideas?
 

Well... frankly, this isn't the right place to be taking this up...
but it really is an issue for the localisation packs for other contries 
than the ones using english keyboards...
but using _backspace_ is evil.

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Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Peter Lairo wrote:

 
 BTW, what is *IIRC* ??? :)
 

I suppose that would be Inside Internet Relay Chat? ;)

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Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Travis Crump wrote:

 On Windows, (Windows 2000), Window explorer(the file directory 
 navigator) maps the 'backspace' key to go up one directory which given 
 the way most people navigate directories is pretty much the same as 
 going 'Back'.  On my six-month old computer, the only label on the 
 Backspace key is a left arrow so disregarding the legacy factor of the 
 key at that spot having always been the backspace key and that most 
 programs still use it as such there is no logical reason why for 
 never mind that is a pretty weak argument...:)   But anyway it seems 
 to me that they were just emulating operating system behavior, so the 
 only real argument against it is that is inconsiderate to other 
 operating systems, not a blanket declaration that there is no possible 
 good reason for it.  Maybe it should go in en-win.jar, but then again I 
 don't know how many windows users are really going to be expecting the 
 behavior even though it mimics the operating system...
 


I'm well aware of explorer's mapping of backspace as up, and I think that is good.

but the filesystem browser in windows doesn't have textboxes in it that
you might need to fill in, or edit... If one of those haven't got focus,
and you bonk on backspace... you know the scenario :)
I believe there has been a lengthy discussion about this in a bug, but I
don't remember which number.
But if this must be kept in, it should be Windows Only, IMHO.

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Re: Mozilla compatible - What do you think can I do?

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

Albert wrote:

 The only thing preventing my migration is an error message in RH 7.2 
 that says Warning!  FAT32 support is still ALPHA! (nuisance only) and 
 the fact that no one supports USB wireless network cards =(
 

Huh? last time I had a FAT32 partition, I used it with less trouble in 
linux than from windows...
NTFS on the other hand... is another story

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Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen

dman84 wrote:

 Sören Kuklau wrote:
 Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up...
 as in Messed up.. screwed, hosed. :)

I don't know it's origin, but I got it from Babylon 5...
as Mr Garibaldi would say: This mission is about to be FUBAR
which was then said to mean Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition

B5 owns² :)

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:

 
 Why don't we use a star as the application icon? It would look great! 
 (I'm serious here.)
 

The star _is_ used ... at least under KDE ... but I find it annoying.
I don't think it's a communist icon, but it doesn't fit in.
The star shape has too many sharp edges, and it's too red.

I like the little blue lizard better. Or just plain text... as it shows 
up in my enlightenment menu

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-16 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:

 
 What little blue lizard are you talking about? I sure hope it's not the 
 one used as icon on Windows - it's ugly!
 

Yep... that would be the one

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-14 Thread Morten Nilsen

Asko Tontti wrote:

 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
I actually don't see anything ... the browser window just pops up (linux)

 
   cd /your/mozilla/installation/
   ee splash.xpm
 
 

I don't have ee either...
I know what the splash looks like, I just commented on the fact that 
linux hasn't got a splash screen AFAIK.

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Re: GCC 3.0x: what compile flags should I use ?

2001-12-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 Rob Somerville wrote:
 
 so far , I have not been able to get mozilla to build with gcc 3.xx,
 although i haven't tried recently ;-(
 
 
 
 I was able to compile it with the default settings (though, afterwards 
 Flash and Java plugins could not be loaded)
 
 

That is because gcc 3 binaries aren't compatible with the plugin binaries.

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Re: Warning: New Bugzilla search page coming soon

2001-12-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

Joe Smith wrote:



Matthew Thomas wrote:


Greetings, Mozilla hackers and bugjockeys

This is a courtesy note to let you know that sometime in the next few
weeks, you will become extremely disoriented and frustrated for a period
of two or three days. (This is in addition to any non-Mozilla-related


And here we have blank posts again ... nothing Joe or Al wrote comes up 
on the news server ... I suspect it's related to the bug about 
unsupported encodings...

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Re: Mozilla compatible - What do you think can I do?

2001-12-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:3C1828EC.5020908
 @SPAM.nilsen.com, on 12 Dec 2001:
 
I liked the graphic of the mozilla lizard toasting the IE logo :)

/me goes and does a little IE-toasting himself

 
 rm -f sucky-ms-web-browser
 
 Tell ya what, so far linux has Mozilla, linux has Unreal Tournament, 
 Linux has Tribes 2.  Not very much at all keeps me having Windows 2000 
 installed these days...
 

I migrated to linux back when I realized I hadn't done anything useful 
om win2k for months ...
Now I've done lots of useful stuff :)
like ... :)
I have made some nice rpm's for trustix of all that is needed to get a 
desktop running :)

btw. If somebody thinks I missed something, drop me a line.
the packages are on complanet.ath.cx/nexxus
If you think I should make gnome rpm's, relax, I will make them sometime.
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Re: build 20011211 fails to display PNG

2001-12-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 Al Rider wrote:
 
 Rendering of html and css colors, yes that requires gamma consider, etc.
 However, the answer is simple [unfortunately] just replicate IE.  90% 
 of the browsers are IE, so designers pick colors that look good with 
 IE; period.
 
 
 
 Mozilla's goal is not to replicate IE, but to create a standards 
 compliant, good browser.
 
 If the standard says use Gamma Correction, we should not care at all 
 what IE does and follow the standard.
 
 
 As I understand it, PNG is a compression algorithm. 
 
 It's an image format, like GIF or JPEG.

To be a bit specific, it's the unproblematic (license-wise) replacement 
for gif.
But the rendring bugs that crop up are a problem.
An the fact that when a png is good in IE it's bad in mozilla and vice 
versa should really be a hint towards the reason, but I can't figure it out.

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Re: Using Nightlies

2001-12-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

Parish wrote:

 Arthur wrote:
 
 This must be what you're looking for:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/

 
 
 No, I can d/l them. I grabbed one yesterday. I just want to clarify how 
 to install them since they don't include an installer (to be expected, I 
 know).
 
 Obviously I just extract the zip into Program Files\mozilla or similar, 
 but should I uninstall 0.9.6 first and, if I do, what about registry 
 settings, profiles, prefs, etc.?

No need to remove the 0.9.6 build...
just extract the nightly into a *separate* directory, and run it from there.
The profile data is stored separately, but you should back it up, just 
in case you get a bad build that corrupts your profile data.

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Re: back forward button problems in unix:

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

dman84 wrote:

 Andrew J. Perry wrote:
 


 I'm seeing the same issue with the 2001121103 Win32 build ..

 on the latest builds dec 6-10 approximatly, the backward  
 forward buttons
 never un-gray, and are non-functional on Linux   Solaris-sparc.

 anybody got any ideas ?

 thanks
 robert somerville

 p. s. Please also respond to email address




 .









 
 Not sure why you wanna keep it that long though, if you add stuff use 

...

Would someone care to enlighten me as to why all those quotes are blank?
a (known) bug in mozilla news?

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Re: build 20011211 fails to display PNG

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Al Rider wrote:

 try this site.  Simple, clean pngs.  I just treied it, works fine on 
 20011210
 
 http://www.ridersite.org/JFK50/JFK50maps.htm
 

Speaking of PNG ...
can anyone tell me why some png's show up with an overall tint error (on 
transparency as well) in mozilla when they are ok in IE and vice versa?

and how is MNG support on a general basis these days? does any other 
browser (IE) support them? is there a site which employs MNG? where is 
waldo? :)

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Re: Is there NO solution for AUTODIAL trouble??? (Off-topic sorry)

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Arthur wrote:

 Jerry,
 I've done all that (at least I think I did) Appart from the  autodial 
 feature from the control panel (can't find it) and it stil doen't work. 
 I'm using an ADSL connection.  Does this make thinks different. Maybe 
 the order of LAN and Dialup adapters in the advanced dialup connections 
 settings window? Right now LAN is on top and nothing selected in the 
 windows below (bindings for LAN connections). It would be great if you 
 could help out. Thanx in advance

I thought ADSL was a permanent connection, ie not needing dialing.

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Re: secure Server Please.

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:

 Would you please put Mozilla groups on secure server please its go so
 about every third or fourth post on the Moz groups are ads to porno
 sites. At least you need to report them to SpamCop so you can bust their chops.
 

The thing is that these groups are also mailing lists.
most of the spam comes in by email..
this has been filed as http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63735

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Re: back forward button problems in unix:

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Glen Morris wrote:

 Lucas MacBride wrote:
 
 Rob Somerville wrote:

 on the latest builds dec 6-10 approximatly, the backward  forward 
 buttons
 never un-gray, and are non-functional on Linux   Solaris-sparc.

 anybody got any ideas ?

 thanks
 robert somerville

 p. s. Please also respond to email address


 Works for me: Linux-Mandrake 2.4.8-34.1, 20011210

 
 If I begin Mozilla's mail  newsgroups first then click the Navigator 
 icon from mail  newsgroups window, the back and forward buttons are 
 always grayed, no matter how many sites I visit.  The back and forward 
 buttons operate properly if I begin Mozila Navigator first.
 
 This bug has been present for quite a number of past builds right up to 
 the latest one.
 
 Glen
 

This is in bugzilla.

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Re: Mozilla compatible - What do you think can I do?

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christopher Jahn wrote:

 And it came to pass that  wrote:
 
 
http://www.mutato.too.it

Mozilla compatible - What do you think can I do?


 
 Mozilla Compatible is a statement against policy, IIRC.  The 
 idea is that pages are HTML compliant, and thus do not require 
 any special browsers to be seen.

I liked the graphic of the mozilla lizard toasting the IE logo :)

/me goes and does a little IE-toasting himself
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Re: Tabs

2001-12-12 Thread Morten Nilsen

Jay Garcia wrote:

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 
What happened to the tabs feature, not enabled in latest nightlies.



 
 Still no tabs, new profile, new theme, delete /chrome/, delete xul.mfl,
 nothing works .. dunno.
 
 Now, I also have 6.2.1 installed but not running. Possibly the problem.
 I'll uninstall 6.2.1 and see what turns up.
 
 

tabs are quite brilliant in 2001121300 (just so you know)

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09 Dec 2001: 
 
I just beleive that they shouldnt be used like that.  it just goes
to hurt the open source software ingenreal. 
I can just see MS using mozilla as an example.

 
 Sorry, but you are out of your mind here.  If MS were to call another 
 web browser communist because of it's icons, there would be such a 
 huge backlash against them I think Linux and Mozilla would gain about 85 
 to 90% of the market within a few weeks.  No company can make political, 
 racial, ethnic, or any type of statement without killing themselves
 
 

Actually, I seem to recollect that MS has said that Open Source is a 
threat to capitalism or something along those lines...
I believe Userfriendly used the statement in a gag too...

Back to bugzilla for me...

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Re: Hotmail attachment downloads? (Mozilla 0.95 problem)

2001-12-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Erik Harris wrote:

 On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:48:09 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mozilla is still beta, hence the 0 as major version number.

 
 I've been involved with plenty of projects that went on for years with 0.x
 versions simply so the development team could use this excuse, without any
 real intention of ever getting to 1.0.  That's a copout.

The thing is that it has taken a while to write all the stuff that is 
needed. And to fix the bugs that pop up.
0.x isn't an excuse, it _is_ the beta. and 1.0 isn't too far off.

And I think mozilla 0.x is tons better than IE anyways.
used it since 0.6, and Netscape 4.x before that.
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Re: command line help bug

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 Anthony Ewell wrote:
 
  mozilla -help(or try --help)   or,
  netscape -help

 But, neither one of these works.
 
 
 
 If you try this on Windows 9x, you must do it this way:
 
   mozilla -help  mozhelü
   type mozhelp
 

wouldn't it be much easier to simply use mozilla -help | more ?

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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

CaT wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 05:48:21AM +0100, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 
seriously anyways. If I had a uninvent gadget, I'd uninvent two things:
Religion and Internet explorer :D

 
 Religion? You'd uninvent religion?!
 
 You communist pig-dog bastard.

I'm not communist, just atheist.
But I'm not the kind of atheist that writes off anything not proven in 
science though.

 
 And never mind IE you anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, anti-democracy
 boofhead.

anti-capitalist I can understand, but anti-freedom?? anti-democracy??

IE is not about freedom and democracy, IMHO, it's about monopoly...


Oh crap... I seem to have inadvertently created some flamebait :(

It was a _joke_ damnit. I don't like IE, and I don't believe in gods 
either, but it was still just a joke.

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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

CaT wrote:

 So was my post. Next time I have a debate about wether or not to put any
 smilies in I'll decide to put em in. :)
okay :)


Completely off topic though;
Why is my mailaddress showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]??
I've set it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... *ponder*
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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-08 Thread Morten Nilsen

Chocobo_greens wrote:

 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 23:48:21 -0500, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 
 
Chocobo_greens wrote:


it shows the star in contex,  a year or so ago, THAT stuff was on the
start up screen, it is now shhrunk, and all you see are the smoking
chimneys behind the  dino head on the banner of mozilla.org.




I think somebody made that page as a gag, playing on communist symbolism
or not,

 
 nope its not a joke
 

To you, maybe not... But I'm not talking about you, or anyone at all.
_except_ the person who _made_ the page.

... and besides, can't we leave this alone now? If it is unbearable, 
just kill the graphic or kill mozilla or whatever :)
The graphic isn't a political statement on the behalf of netscape or 
mozilla.
hey here's a possible explanation: (this _is_ a joke!!)
some drooling marketing zombie thought it might attract users in 
communist circles.

I'll go sit in the corner now... I'm just crazy
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