Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Jonas Jørgensen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Maybe one of those switches could be installed as an off switch :) or do 
> you think a reboot switch might restore his corrupted reasoning 
> libraries?:-) JTK please go get some help--you need it. Please stop 
> trolling. I for one an tired of the garbage and flames and hate you type 
> into this newsgroup. Can we please have one thread where you do not take 
> the thread OT with your nonesense/hate/ falmnes and trolling! Please. 
> Please go to a Microsoft site to post. You seem to *know* their products 
> are better. If you believe Mozilla is a dead product and hate all its 
> bugs, poor rendering, bugs, etc. I cannot understand any reason why you 
> are here othere than to be a troll. You must enjoy negative attention. I 
> will not be polite--Would you please leave the Mozilla newsgroups--I am 
> sick of reading your flames and hate and all the distractions you create 
> to useful and meaningful discussion! Please leave. If you don't know 
> where the door is I am sure someone will be happy to show you where it is.

Amen.

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[pbergsagel]

Maybe one of those switches could be installed as an off switch :) or do 
you think a reboot switch might restore his corrupted reasoning 
libraries?:-) JTK please go get some help--you need it. Please stop 
trolling. I for one an tired of the garbage and flames and hate you type 
into this newsgroup. Can we please have one thread where you do not take 
the thread OT with your nonesense/hate/ falmnes and trolling! Please. 
Please go to a Microsoft site to post. You seem to *know* their products 
are better. If you believe Mozilla is a dead product and hate all its 
bugs, poor rendering, bugs, etc. I cannot understand any reason why you 
are here othere than to be a troll. You must enjoy negative attention. I 
will not be polite--Would you please leave the Mozilla newsgroups--I am 
sick of reading your flames and hate and all the distractions you create 
to useful and meaningful discussion! Please leave. If you don't know 
where the door is I am sure someone will be happy to show you where it is.

To everyone else: sorry for the hateful post. I am simply at the end of 
my rope with the nonesense JTK posts and how he always leads the 
discussion off topic.


Lucas MacBride wrote:
> JTK wrote:
> 
>> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
>> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
>> of switches.
>> Move the mouse around on top of them.
>>
>> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up 
>> that follow your mouse.
>>
>> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
>>
>> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can 
>> do, shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
>>
> 
> They have coded their scripting to IE's DOM (and Netscape 4 layers) and 
> not the w3c standardized DOM which Mozilla/Netscape 6 supports. (This is 
> one of those FrontPage products...need I say more?) Mozilla CAN do 
> tricks like that if you code it according to the standards.
> 
> But obviously in this case, you've gone to the wrong site entirely, 
> because this really isn't the kind of switch you need.
> 

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[David Simpson]

On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 11:20:01 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> From that, we can conclude that *you* are working for AOL! For free!!! 
>OHMYGOD!!! THIS IS AN 
>AOL-TIME-WARNER-NETSACPE-JTKZILLA-EVIL-RED-COMMUNIST-NAZI-GARY-VAN-SICKLE-MICROSOFT-NBC-US-GOVERNMENT
> 
>CONSPIRACY!!! THEY ARE AFTER US!!! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET US!!! 
>RUN!!! AARR!!!

You forgot to mention the Illuminati, Majestic 12, and the Freemasons.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards) wrote in news:a3feu7$j53$1
@dmapub.dma.org, on 01 Feb 2002:

> Drinking coffee builds pressure up, swearing at clueless
> morons who deserve it releases pressure.
> 

Reading posts by clueless morons tends to build more pressure than 
coffee, I think.  Which is good, cause you read the post and then curse 
at him, resulting in a tension time of under a minute, usually

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

Dan Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Feb 2002: 

> I may be a novice at HTML, but even I know this code couldn't
> possibly work . . . unless you then close with:
> .

No.  Just like IE decides to close a table for me if I omit a  
tag, Mozilla should know where I want all my tags to end.  Why should I 
have to figure out what I want it to look like, Mozilla should know what 
looks best to everyone and do it for me, right?

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Phil Edwards]

JTK  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > or help write
> > code.
> 
> Work for AOL for free?  No thanks.

This is the funniest thing I've read all day.


> >  Bitching on newsgroups doesn't contribute a fucking thing.
> 
> But swearing sure does, huh Phil?

Absolutely.  Drinking coffee builds pressure up, swearing at clueless
morons who deserve it releases pressure.


Phil

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[jesus X]

JTK wrote:
> Hey, all I know is that the page works in IE, NC4.7x, and not in
> Mozilla.  Hence, Mozilla is lagging feature-wise wrt IE and Netscape's
> OWN PREVIOUS PRODUCT.  "Hey guy, use this browser!  It weighs more, but
> it does less!"

But, as usual, you're wrong. That wasn't a feature of NS4 or IE, it was a script
that used the proprietary NS4  tag and the IE proprietary DOM, neither of
which are in Mozilla, which uses the standard W3C DOM. As has been repeatedly
pointed out, the script author has created a new version that uses the W3C DOM,
and will work in _any_ standards compliant browser.

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

Travis Crump wrote:
> 
>> Did that work in Communicator?  Does it work in IE?  If so, then Mozilla
>> damn well better support it!
>>
> Uhm, when has IE *ever* supported layers?
> 


Hey, all I know is that the page works in IE, NC4.7x, and not in 
Mozilla.  Hence, Mozilla is lagging feature-wise wrt IE and Netscape's 
OWN PREVIOUS PRODUCT.  "Hey guy, use this browser!  It weighs more, but 
it does less!"

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> Jonas Jørgensen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Feb 2002:
> 
> 
>>0.75% of 
>>the browser using population happier, and the world a better place.
>>
> 
> Last numbers I saw were closer to 3.0%, you may want to update your 
> argument :)

3% of all users which have no other browser on their system perhaps.  We 
need a nice chart to show how rapid the adoption of Mozilla is.  Where 
can some reusable (as in, that I can take and make a graph from legally) 
numbers be gotten?  How about let's start with Mozilla.org's own stats, 
where do I get them?

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Dan Howard]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> I think I should be able to write:
>and have 
> the browser automatically think of some cool content and format it 
> however would look nicest.  Cause I mean, why shouldn't all the browsers 
> support my idea of HTML tags right?
> 
> 

I may be a novice at HTML, but even I know this code couldn't possibly 
work . . . unless you then close with:
.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Travis Crump]

> Did that work in Communicator?  Does it work in IE?  If so, then Mozilla
> damn well better support it!
> 
Uhm, when has IE *ever* supported layers?

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Thomas]

Thank you very much for helping the Mozilla team fix this bug!!!


 
> THIS IS A *SERIOUS* *BUG*! IT MUST BE *FIXED*! WITH THIS BUG, MOZILLA 
> *$UX*! NOT EVEN *NOTEPAD* $UX THAT MUCH! FIX IT NOW OR YOU ARE ALL A 
> BUNCH OF EIGHT-YEAR-OLD BURGER FLIPPERS!!!

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

Jonas Jørgensen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Feb 2002:

> 0.75% of 
> the browser using population happier, and the world a better place.

Last numbers I saw were closer to 3.0%, you may want to update your 
argument :)

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Jonas Jørgensen]

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
> JTK wrote:
> 
>  >> or help write code.
>  >
>  > Work for AOL for free?  No thanks.

Hey JayTeeKay, did you see that? A space was inserted before the >'s in 
my post. That is a bug in Mozilla. But you know what, because I am so 
nice I will now make sure that this bug will get fixed within a week so 
all you other Mozilla MailNews users out there can be happy. Look:

THIS IS A *SERIOUS* *BUG*! IT MUST BE *FIXED*! WITH THIS BUG, MOZILLA 
*$UX*! NOT EVEN *NOTEPAD* $UX THAT MUCH! FIX IT NOW OR YOU ARE ALL A 
BUNCH OF EIGHT-YEAR-OLD BURGER FLIPPERS!!!

There, all done. Now I can continue my life knowing that I, Jónäs
Jorgêñsèn (remember?), has made Mozilla a better news clíent, 0.75% of 
the browser using population happier, and the world a better place.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Jonas Jørgensen]

JTK wrote:

 >> or help write code.
 >
 > Work for AOL for free?  No thanks.

Let's see:
* You consider Mozilla to be an AOL project
* Contributing code to Mozilla is working for AOL for free
* "Drawing attention" to bugs by yelling in the newsgroups is as least 
as important as actually writing the code
* Doing work that is as important as writing code must thus also be 
working for AOL for free

 From that, we can conclude that *you* are working for AOL! For free!!! 
OHMYGOD!!! THIS IS AN 
AOL-TIME-WARNER-NETSACPE-JTKZILLA-EVIL-RED-COMMUNIST-NAZI-GARY-VAN-SICKLE-MICROSOFT-NBC-US-GOVERNMENT
 
CONSPIRACY!!! THEY ARE AFTER US!!! THEY ARE TRYING TO GET US!!! 
RUN!!! AARR!!!

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards) wrote in
> a3crbk$m8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a3crbk$m8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002:
> 
> > Either submit a decent bugzilla report (one where you don't take
> > constant potshots at a project you claim to be helping to improve),
> > or help write code.  Bitching on newsgroups doesn't contribute a
> > fucking thing.
> >
> 
> He'll tell you he got a context menu added to the plain text composer.

Yeah, like within a WEEK!  That's a few orders of magnitude faster than
ANYTHING that EVER got done on this project!

> Sure, he didn't write any code, he didn't file any bugs in bugzilla, he
> didn't give any suggestions, he just sat and complained and complained
> and said Mozilla sucks over and over.

I never said Mozilla sucks, 1337 d00d.  I said it was insane that it
didn't have a context menu.  And I said it loudly.  And magically things
happened.

>  No, the guy who filed the bug
> didn't help fix it,

Was a bug actually ever filed on that one?

> nor did the person who did all the coding.

What are you talking about?  I said "Jump", Blake said "How high?" 
That's teamwork.  No man is an island, not even me.

>  It was
> all JTK.

Right.  No leadership, no fixing.  Why is that so hard for you to
understand?  Would you stand at your register for six hours a day if
your boss wasn't going to be on your ass if you didn't?  Of course not.

>  Watch now, he's going to fix more things in it, all without
> ever touching a source file

Stragely enough, it looks like I've struck again while you were
loafing.  Have you used the newsreader to write a post recently?  It
appears that I finally got them to fix the "characters where there
should be no characters" problem that Mozilla has had (and Notepad
hasn't) forever.  We'll get that sucker up to Notepad's lofty standards
yet, I swear!

Watch for the following in the near future:

- layers support.
- Cache defects silently fixed.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> on 31 Jan 2002:
> 
> > It is indeed a cool script.  Too bad the guy had to rewrite it (and
> > the switch page guys will have to get the new one) just so Mozilla
> > could understand it.  But hey, when you've got 0.75% market share,
> > I guess it's your duty to throw all that weight around, huh?
> > Pfhht.
> >
> 
> Yeah, I know.  Imagine, forcing someone to follow the WRITTEN
> SPECIFICATIONS for a technology.

Further imagine trying to force said someone when you have LESS THAN ONE
PERCENT MARKET SHARE.

>  I think I should be able to write:
>and have
> the browser automatically think of some cool content and format it
> however would look nicest.  Cause I mean, why shouldn't all the browsers
> support my idea of HTML tags right?
>

Did that work in Communicator?  Does it work in IE?  If so, then Mozilla
damn well better support it!

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

Phil Edwards wrote:
> 
> JTK  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Fred, if I don't post here, how's Mozilla going to ever not suck?
> 
> Your posting (or not) has absolutely zilch to do with Mozilla sucking
> (or not).
>

Naha.  Tell yourself that the next time you right-click.
 
> Either submit a decent bugzilla report (one where you don't take constant
> potshots at a project you claim to be helping to improve),

What, I can't do both?

> or help write
> code.

Work for AOL for free?  No thanks.

>  Bitching on newsgroups doesn't contribute a fucking thing.

But swearing sure does, huh Phil?

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards) wrote in
a3crbk$m8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a3crbk$m8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002: 

> Either submit a decent bugzilla report (one where you don't take
> constant potshots at a project you claim to be helping to improve),
> or help write code.  Bitching on newsgroups doesn't contribute a
> fucking thing. 
> 

He'll tell you he got a context menu added to the plain text composer.  
Sure, he didn't write any code, he didn't file any bugs in bugzilla, he 
didn't give any suggestions, he just sat and complained and complained 
and said Mozilla sucks over and over.  No, the guy who filed the bug 
didn't help fix it, nor did the person who did all the coding.  It was 
all JTK.  Watch now, he's going to fix more things in it, all without 
ever touching a source file

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 31 Jan 2002: 

> It is indeed a cool script.  Too bad the guy had to rewrite it (and
> the switch page guys will have to get the new one) just so Mozilla
> could understand it.  But hey, when you've got 0.75% market share,
> I guess it's your duty to throw all that weight around, huh? 
> Pfhht. 
> 

Yeah, I know.  Imagine, forcing someone to follow the WRITTEN 
SPECIFICATIONS for a technology.  I think I should be able to write:
   and have 
the browser automatically think of some cool content and format it 
however would look nicest.  Cause I mean, why shouldn't all the browsers 
support my idea of HTML tags right?

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Phil Edwards]

JTK  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Fred, if I don't post here, how's Mozilla going to ever not suck?

Your posting (or not) has absolutely zilch to do with Mozilla sucking
(or not).

Either submit a decent bugzilla report (one where you don't take constant
potshots at a project you claim to be helping to improve), or help write
code.  Bitching on newsgroups doesn't contribute a fucking thing.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> Jason Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002: 
> 
> 
>>Not able to cut it, eh?  Take a peek at
>>http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ No problem whatsoever.  Just
>>uses a newer version of the same script that actually complies with
>>W3C standards. http://tc.aivia.net uses a similar but dumbed-down
>>script about 1KB in size. 
>>
>>
> 
> He's never going to go to that link.

Just went there LaGgy, sorry.

 >  And if he does accidently click
> it, then the reason is that script was written by the AOL/Maozilla 
> Politburo and the followers of Stalin in an attempt to take over the 
> internet in the name of communism, or similar.  It does seem like a cool 
> script though, I think I may put it to use.  Thanks for the link!

It is indeed a cool script.  Too bad the guy had to rewrite it (and the 
switch page guys will have to get the new one) just so Mozilla could 
understand it.  But hey, when you've got 0.75% market share, I guess 
it's your duty to throw all that weight around, huh?  Pfhht.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug PS:

[Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> Jason Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002:
> 
> > Not able to cut it, eh?  Take a peek at
> > http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ No problem whatsoever.  Just
> > uses a newer version of the same script that actually complies with
> > W3C standards. http://tc.aivia.net uses a similar but dumbed-down
> > script about 1KB in size.
> >
> 
> He's never going to go to that link.  And if he does accidently click
> it, then the reason is that script was written by the AOL/Maozilla
> Politburo and the followers of Stalin in an attempt to take over the
> internet in the name of communism, or similar.  It does seem like a cool
> script though, I think I may put it to use.  Thanks for the link!
> 
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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> Jason Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002:
> 
> > Not able to cut it, eh?  Take a peek at
> > http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ No problem whatsoever.  Just
> > uses a newer version of the same script that actually complies with
> > W3C standards. http://tc.aivia.net uses a similar but dumbed-down
> > script about 1KB in size.
> >
> 
> He's never going to go to that link.  And if he does accidently click
> it, then the reason is that script was written by the AOL/Maozilla
> Politburo and the followers of Stalin in an attempt to take over the
> internet in the name of communism, or similar.  It does seem like a cool
> script though, I think I may put it to use.  Thanks for the link!
> 
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That's actually a neat trick even works with Communicator 4.7.9 on a
Mac. 
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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Georg Bremer]

On 1/31/02 10:44 PM, Jason Johnston wrote:

> Yes, I realize that unfortunate probability.  My post was not so much
> for JTK as for all the other readers here, to help disprove his
> uneducated claims so that no innocent bystanders might be suckered into
> believing them.  And, of course, to provide what might be useful links
> to others like yourself. ;-)


Did your job fine :-).
But I think this script is as cool as it looks like first. Ah, maybe it
makes sense in big images which are divided into link parts.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Jason Johnston]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> He's never going to go to that link.  And if he does accidently click 
> it, then the reason is that script was written by the AOL/Maozilla 
> Politburo and the followers of Stalin in an attempt to take over the 
> internet in the name of communism, or similar.  It does seem like a cool 
> script though, I think I may put it to use.  Thanks for the link!
> 
> 


Yes, I realize that unfortunate probability.  My post was not so much 
for JTK as for all the other readers here, to help disprove his 
uneducated claims so that no innocent bystanders might be suckered into 
believing them.  And, of course, to provide what might be useful links 
to others like yourself. ;-)

Regards
--J

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[DeMoN LaG]

Jason Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 31 Jan 2002: 

> Not able to cut it, eh?  Take a peek at
> http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ No problem whatsoever.  Just
> uses a newer version of the same script that actually complies with
> W3C standards. http://tc.aivia.net uses a similar but dumbed-down
> script about 1KB in size. 
> 

He's never going to go to that link.  And if he does accidently click 
it, then the reason is that script was written by the AOL/Maozilla 
Politburo and the followers of Stalin in an attempt to take over the 
internet in the name of communism, or similar.  It does seem like a cool 
script though, I think I may put it to use.  Thanks for the link!

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Chris Hoess]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:42:27 -0600, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
>>shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
> 
> 
> Ya know it's funny your always here posting how Mozilla sucks.  If it
> sucks so much why do you post here?
> 

I'd hypothesize he's secretly been hired by NS to entertain the group 
readership.

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Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Jason Johnston]

JTK wrote:
> mdakin wrote:
> 
>> well. its nice to see u started using mozilla :)
>>
>>
> 
> I only used it because I saw that feature (something I'd never seen 
> before on a web page to the best of my recollection), and I somehow knew 
> that Mozilla was not going to be able to cut it.  Frankly, I expected 
> Mozilla to crash on me, which it didn't, so I guess that's something.
> 


Not able to cut it, eh?  Take a peek at http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
No problem whatsoever.  Just uses a newer version of the same script 
that actually complies with W3C standards.
http://tc.aivia.net uses a similar but dumbed-down script about 1KB in size.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[user]

mdakin wrote:
> well. its nice to see u started using mozilla :)
> 
> 

I only used it because I saw that feature (something I'd never seen 
before on a web page to the best of my recollection), and I somehow knew 
that Mozilla was not going to be able to cut it.  Frankly, I expected 
Mozilla to crash on me, which it didn't, so I guess that's something.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

mdakin wrote:
> well. its nice to see u started using mozilla :)
> 
> 

I only used it because I saw that feature (something I'd never seen 
before on a web page to the best of my recollection), and I somehow knew 
that Mozilla was not going to be able to cut it.  Frankly, I expected 
Mozilla to crash on me, which it didn't, so I guess that's something.

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:42:27 -0600, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
>>shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
>>
> 
> 
> Ya know it's funny your always here posting how Mozilla sucks.  If it
> sucks so much why do you post here?
> 
> Fred
> 

Fred, if I don't post here, how's Mozilla going to ever not suck?

PS: And "suck" is your word, not mine.  It's a very applicable word

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Dan Howard]

Simon P. Lucy wrote:
> On 30/01/2002 at 14:42 JTK wrote:
> 
> 
>>Go here: http://www.switches.com/
>>Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
>>of switches.
>>Move the mouse around on top of them.
>>
>>If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
>>follow your mouse.
>>
>>If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
>>
>>Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
>>shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
>>
> 
> The most likely cause is bad browser sniffing.
> 
> S
> 
> 
> 
> 

Is it just a coincidence that this page was written using MS FrontPage 4.0?

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Simon P. Lucy]

On 30/01/2002 at 14:42 JTK wrote:

>Go here: http://www.switches.com/
>Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
>of switches.
>Move the mouse around on top of them.
>
>If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
>follow your mouse.
>
>If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
>
>Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
>shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?

The most likely cause is bad browser sniffing.

S

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[mdakin]

well. its nice to see u started using mozilla :)

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[fred]

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:42:27 -0600, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
>shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?


Ya know it's funny your always here posting how Mozilla sucks.  If it
sucks so much why do you post here?

Fred

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[barney]

JTK wrote:
> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
> of switches.
> Move the mouse around on top of them.
> 
> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
> follow your mouse.
> 
> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
> 
> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
> shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
> 
> 

FYI, this site uses a third-party script called overlib.  It has been
updated for NS6/mozilla, but this site is apparently using an older
version of it.  I've seen overlib at other sites (using mozilla, BTW),
and, IMO, the pop-ups following the mouse is majorly annoying.  Hard to
get the darned things to sit still so I can read what's in them.

http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/

So there!

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

Travis Crump wrote:
> Come now, you have been trolling this newsgroup long enough to know that 
> Mozilla doesn't support layers and never will...
> 

Wow, that's the kind of cool stuff you can do with these "layers" I keep 
hearing about?  No wonder everybody's so pissed that Mozilla is 
intentionally hobbled in that respect.

> JTK wrote:
> 
>> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
>> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
>> of switches.
>> Move the mouse around on top of them.
>>
>> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up 
>> that follow your mouse.
>>
>> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
>>
>> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can 
>> do, shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
>>
> 

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Lucas MacBride]

JTK wrote:

> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
> of switches.
> Move the mouse around on top of them.
> 
> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
> follow your mouse.
> 
> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
> 
> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
> shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
> 

They have coded their scripting to IE's DOM (and Netscape 4 layers) and 
not the w3c standardized DOM which Mozilla/Netscape 6 supports. (This is 
one of those FrontPage products...need I say more?) Mozilla CAN do 
tricks like that if you code it according to the standards.

But obviously in this case, you've gone to the wrong site entirely, 
because this really isn't the kind of switch you need.

-- 
Tha cuid ag radh gu'm bheil e 'na shaor.
Tha cuid ag radh gu'n robh e 'na aonar.
(And if I say that 3 times, JTK turns into a Troll -- Oops! Too late!)

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Thomas]

I am a little bit disapointed jtk, your attempts to start a flame war 
were much better in the past.

JTK wrote:

> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
> of switches.
> Move the mouse around on top of them.
> 
> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
> follow your mouse.
> 
> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
> 
> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
> shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
> 

Re: Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[Travis Crump]

Come now, you have been trolling this newsgroup long enough to know that 
Mozilla doesn't support layers and never will...

JTK wrote:
> Go here: http://www.switches.com/
> Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
> of switches.
> Move the mouse around on top of them.
> 
> If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
> follow your mouse.
> 
> If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.
> 
> Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
> shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?
> 

Mozilla "hover tips" bug

[JTK]

Go here: http://www.switches.com/
Click on "Products", it'll take you to a page with a bunch of pictures 
of switches.
Move the mouse around on top of them.

If you're using IE, you'll get cool "hover tip" thingies poping up that 
follow your mouse.

If you're using Mozilla, you'll get nothing.

Now it seems to me that Mozilla should be able to do anything IE can do, 
shouldn't it?  I mean really, "Micro$oft $ux d00d", right?