Re: OPLL emulation
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: > > At 09:24 AM 7/15/99 -0300, you wrote: > > >OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The > >OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 > >chips and delivers exactly the same output. > > I thought that OPL2 didn't include the ADPCM part. > > Bye, > Maarten > Hey ... Lemme talk about this ... I once used to fix some Sound Blaster cards for friends ... (We can learn a lot of things about hardware by just looking closely and thinking about. Also some research on Internet helps a lot ! ) ;) Sound blaster cards has a device called DSP , wich plays PCM data. It relies on a DMA, some I/O ports and a IRQ channel. It works as a sort of "buffered" PCM, It caches a "chunk" of the pcm data sent by the PC microprocessor. When it finishes playing that "chunk" the DSP issues a IRQ signal , wich warns the PCM driver to transfer another data chunk to the DSP. That device is 100% independant from the fm synth hardware. Also , this DSP emulates the MIDI UART on the older SB 16 (non PNP) cards. On the MSXOPL (Y8950) by what I know the access to ADPCM device are made within the FM synth registers. (Correct me if I'm wrong , please) The registers are organized somehow as this : 0xORG - 0xORG+3 OPL3 registers (In I/O order like 0x0C4 order for OPL4 in MSX) 0xORG+4 - 0xORG+5 Mixer registers (ORG + 4 ADDR / ORG + 5 Data , Yamaha I/O Stile) 0xORG+6 DSP Reset 0xORG+8 - 0xORG+9 Mirror off 0xORG - 0xORG+1 0xORG+A DSP Read data 0xORG+C DSP Write data (Also DSP Status when read on. Output in MSB) 0xORG+E DSP Status (MSB) Fixed I/O (For ADLIB/ADLIB Gold compatibility) 0x388 - 0x38B Mirror of the OPL3 FM Synthetizer chip. (The old Adlib & Adlib Gold cards had no PCM device) All other ports inclued on the SB-PRO/16 hardware (Joystick & midi port) were not rellevant to be commented here ! ;) The OPL3 chip used on PC sound cards could be really used easily to partially emulate MSX Audio (the ADPCM emulation , I think that could be a little tricky). the hardware (the exeption is the FM part) is VERY diferent from the MSX hardware. I think people already didn't that because there is a HUGE distance between speech and a working thing . =) (Don't ya agree ?) I hope I helped the understanding on that matter with this small info ... Cya MSXers ... MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Machine Language
> This is indeed the correct usage of the words machine language and assembly > language. It is a fact that a lot of people say machine language when they > actually mean assembly language. Most self-proclaimed machine language > programmers are actually assembler language programmers. Only real hackers > can read and write machine language directly. They now the hexadecimal > opcodes by hart. A very rare race these days... Cool! So I suppose I'm in the "risk extintion group", since I can code directly in hex. Well, mainly for Z80, 'cause I'm too lazy to memorize all those 80x86 codes... :) Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Engenharia de Computacao - UNICAMP http://www.adrpage.cjb.net MSX-TR:I have one.And you? * CRUISING: 33600bps modem and 0.5bps fingers! * MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
> Below, you can find the registersettings needed to reproduce the opll > hardware instruments on an OPL1. With thanks to Bernard Lamers and Hans > Guijt for this information: > > Nr Register settingsName Are these extracted from the OPLL chip (they are not in the msx-music rom afaik) or are these approximations? > For most fm-pac based games, you don't hear any difference between a real > MSX and fMSX amiga! Also if you play, say, the Microcabin bgms (which use some strange OPLL tricks)? Tristan + Omega + join #msx on undernet +[EMAIL PROTECTED]+ | | FUNET MSX maintainer | ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msx | + irc: OmegaMSX +Techno composer+ http://users.bart.nl/~omegamsx + MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Machine Language
] Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote: ] > Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) ] ] Yeah, perhaps :) ] ] That's not what I originally meant, but ] I'm unsure if I could explain it in ] english. ] ] I remember when I programmed assembly for ] Apple II I used to call the hex dumps ] "machine language", and "assembly" the ] mnemonics for the opcodes (and, for ] extension, the language of the programs' ] sourcecodes)... =) This is indeed the correct usage of the words machine language and assembly language. It is a fact that a lot of people say machine language when they actually mean assembly language. Most self-proclaimed machine language programmers are actually assembler language programmers. Only real hackers can read and write machine language directly. They now the hexadecimal opcodes by hart. A very rare race these days... Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
] Alex Wulms wrote: ] > Differences are minor. In general, you can say ] > that the OPL1 is a superset of the OPLL. There ] > are only two functions which the OPLL has but ] > which the OPL1 does not have: ] ] Anyway, this was my point. `:) I didn't say that ] OPL1 couldn't emulate OPLL (just making sure I ] was not misunderstood). In fact, I don't see why ] we couldn't actually improve the quality of the ] presets via emulation. fMSX-DOS could do this ] using General MIDI, if we could customize the ] way it assigns MIDI patches and the drumkit. ] ] (...) ] > Hans Guijt has used this information to emulate the fm-pac on fMSX amiga, ] > using the OPL3 of an amiga sound extension card. ] > For most fm-pac based games, you don't hear any difference between a real MSX ] > and fMSX amiga! ] ] This is pretty cool. I wished fMSX-DOS had this ] sound quality. <:) What about the drum samples? ] Do they sound the same? The FM drums of the 6/5 mode in the OPLL are exactly the same as the FM drums of the 6/5 mode of the OPL1 and compatibles (like OPL2, OPL3, OPL4, ...) Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
] On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, AkA DanSHakU wrote: ] ] > > Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on ] > > the FM-PAC (MSX-Music). I know of no way to create the OPLL hardware ] > > voices on an OPLx chip, unless there is some way to extracht OPL data ] > > for these voices from the OPLL. ] > ] > do a romdump of the fm-pac ] ] You can get a romdump of the original FMPAC cartridge in ] http://www.lsi.usp.br/~ricardo/brmsxdl.htm A romdump won't help you much. The instrument definitions are hardcoded in the OPLL chip. Not in the ROM. Anyway, the instrument definitions have also been published in one of the MSX datapacks. You can find exact details in some other message of me on the mailinglist. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: FDC (was: UZIX & DOS2)
] On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Alex Wulms wrote: ] ] > ] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? ] > Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. ] ] Right! Thanks. Could you send us an overview about Wavy FDC? Wavy contains the TC8566AF, just like the MSX turbo R. A couple of weeks ago I sent the TC8566AF datasheets to somebody in Brazil. I don't remember his name at this moment. Anyway, I'm still planning to scan the TC8566AF datasheets some day and put them on my homepage. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation
At 09:24 AM 7/15/99 -0300, you wrote: >OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The >OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 >chips and delivers exactly the same output. I thought that OPL2 didn't include the ADPCM part. Bye, Maarten MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vsreal thing)
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, AkA DanSHakU wrote: > > Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on > > the FM-PAC (MSX-Music). I know of no way to create the OPLL hardware > > voices on an OPLx chip, unless there is some way to extracht OPL data > > for these voices from the OPLL. > > do a romdump of the fm-pac You can get a romdump of the original FMPAC cartridge in http://www.lsi.usp.br/~ricardo/brmsxdl.htm Go to the bottom of the page and see FMPAC.ROM Greetings from Brazil! - Marco Antonio Simon Dal Pozhttp://www.lsi.usp.br/~mdalpoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Apple" (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton /"\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: FDC (was: UZIX & DOS2)
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Alex Wulms wrote: > ] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? > Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. Right! Thanks. Could you send us an overview about Wavy FDC? Greetings from Brazil! - Marco Antonio Simon Dal Pozhttp://www.lsi.usp.br/~mdalpoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Apple" (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton /"\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Machine Language
Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote: > Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) Yeah, perhaps :) That's not what I originally meant, but I'm unsure if I could explain it in english. I remember when I programmed assembly for Apple II I used to call the hex dumps "machine language", and "assembly" the mnemonics for the opcodes (and, for extension, the language of the programs' sourcecodes)... =) > MSX-TR:I have one.And you? I don't. But I'd like to. `:) []s, Parn MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Machine Language
Pablo, > * machine language. I don't know if > this has the same meaning outside > Brazil... <:) Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) What we call, in portuguese, "linguagem de maquina" or "linguagem de montagem" or, yet, "linguagem assembly", also erroneous called "assembler" (an "assembler" is a program to make assembly programs - in portuguese, the best translation is "montador"). Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Engenharia de Computacao - UNICAMP http://www.adrpage.cjb.net MSX-TR:I have one.And you? * To "shut down" your system, type "WIN" at the DOS prompt. * MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba wrote: > > AkA DanSHakU wrote: > > Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. > > No way! :) It's a soundchip by Yamaha. Ok... my mistake... just got a bit confused... i thought that OPL1 was the chip and OPLL was the BASIC language...sigh...it's been so long ago.. sigh... > To program the OPLL you use its sound > registers, which are ultimately set by > some ML* program. <:) yeah,yeah...i know... i used to design fm sounds.. (AAARRRGHHH).. :)) greetz akai MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
AkA DanSHakU wrote: > Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. No way! :) It's a soundchip by Yamaha. To program the OPLL you use its sound registers, which are ultimately set by some ML* program. <:) You could create a music in Basic, but it's the macrolanguage interpreter (in ML, of course) who really program the OPLL. []s, Parn * machine language. I don't know if this has the same meaning outside Brazil... <:) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Black boxes (Was "Re: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing")
Maurizio wrote: > > Take some black boxes. > > Give the same imput to all the boxes. > > Watch the outputs. > > If the output is the same for all the boxes, the boxes are identical > regardless what there is inside each one. good...now we only need a keyboard, tv-out and tv emulator :) grtz akai [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. greetz akai [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
Alex Wulms wrote: > Differences are minor. In general, you can say > that the OPL1 is a superset of the OPLL. There > are only two functions which the OPLL has but > which the OPL1 does not have: Anyway, this was my point. `:) I didn't say that OPL1 couldn't emulate OPLL (just making sure I was not misunderstood). In fact, I don't see why we couldn't actually improve the quality of the presets via emulation. fMSX-DOS could do this using General MIDI, if we could customize the way it assigns MIDI patches and the drumkit. (...) > Hans Guijt has used this information to emulate the fm-pac on fMSX amiga, > using the OPL3 of an amiga sound extension card. > For most fm-pac based games, you don't hear any difference between a real MSX > and fMSX amiga! This is pretty cool. I wished fMSX-DOS had this sound quality. <:) What about the drum samples? Do they sound the same? []s, Parn MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
Tristan wrote: > > > Each and every ad-lib compatible soundcard can emulate FM Pac and FM-part > > of music module, since the ad-lib contains the OPL1 FM-Chip. Each sound > > blaster compatible soundcard can emulate FM Pac, FM-part of music module > > and ADPCM part of music module, since the soundblaster contains both the > > OPL1 and a DA converter. > > This is only partly true. First, the OPL chip used on ADLIBs is not > called OPL1. Yeah, but does it have the same operators?... i think it does..(allthough i never checked) > Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on > the FM-PAC (MSX-Music). I know of no way to create the OPLL hardware > voices on an OPLx chip, unless there is some way to extracht OPL data > for these voices from the OPLL. do a romdump of the fm-pac > However, the sound of OPLL songs played through OPLx compatible FM > chips is _almost_ the same. this is propably due to post-occilator filtering... FM synthesis produces a lot of harmonics and non-harmonics and most of them get very noisy in the upper spectrum .. to make fm sound good to the human ear you need to filter yamaha has been developing on this bit a lot since the first fm synth came out (Yamaha DX-7) i'm sure that the filters used in the fm-pac opl have different algorithms than say a soundblaster opl. I'm not sure but there might be another source for difference ... Yamaha COULD (but i'm completely unsure about this) have boosted the operators resolution. this would mean that what used to sound like digital noise on the pac now actually sound like metalic noise > It's just a matter of how high your standards are set, realy completely true... i mean, to get the REAL fm-pac sound you'd have to connect your pc sound to a crappy monitor or tv... :)) greetz, akai [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing
Coen van der Geest wrote: > > Hi there, > > >But if I run an MSX1 game on BrMSX, using a video card with TV-out and an > >MSX joystick connected to the PC, and I hide the PC itself from sight, can > >you tell the difference with a real MSX1? > > Did I hear Turing Test? *grin* (OK, someone already used that joke B4, > but I liked it). > > >I don't mind if a few crappy coded games won't run. If BrMSX can run MSX1 > >games as well as my 8250 can, it's close enough to perfect for me. > > The problem is that sound chips like the FM Pac can't be emulated > correctly, since the A/D (that's D/A ed.) Convertor of (for example) the SoundBlaster > can't produce FM sounds. a fmpac cannot be emulated on ANY d/a convertor... an d/a convertor is just that, an Digital-to-analouge convertor... kick it... spit at it... but it will not give one sigh.. you realy need to apply an digital sound source to get a signal from it... btw... didn't the soundblaster 16 have an OPL3 or OPL4? > It is very hard to emulate the FM Pac, which is > kind of an analogue synth. nope... fm-pac has a FM synth inside which is digital... i challange you to name one analouge signal processing step in the fm-pac (except for any amps) > Compare it with Rebirth emulating the > (analogue) TB303 synth. are you saying that you can compare an FM-Pac to ReBirth? if so you are wrong (and i hate saying this) again completely different technology if you mean that you'd have to use ReBirth-like technologies to emulate an FM-Pac then i'd say forget it emulating an fm sound generator using tiny samples is near to impossible due to the complexity of FM sound... The only option i see is that you do some reading on FM and write code that emulates the fm-operators... this way you can make any fm sound on any d/a convertor.. FM is actually quite simple... you take one wave and multiply it with another to change the sound... > Emulators like KGen (Megadrive/Genesis) use this > technology. yeah, but megadrive didn't have an FM chip, did it? > BTW: I love emulators. Great hobby. If i ever found some time i'm sure i'd be doing emulators as well... :)) greetz, akai [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
] Tristan wrote: ] > This is only partly true. First, the OPL chip used on ADLIBs is not ] > called OPL1. Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on ] ] OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The ] OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 ] chips and delivers exactly the same output. And you're ] right, OPL1 is not the same as OPLL + something. It is ] indeed a different beast. :) Differences are minor. In general, you can say that the OPL1 is a superset of the OPLL. There are only two functions which the OPLL has but which the OPL1 does not have: DC bit: Carrier wave is rectified to half wave (kind of distortion effect) DM bit: Modulated wave is rectified to half wave (kind of distortion effect) I haven't got a clue if an OPL2 does have this functionality. Below, you can find the registersettings needed to reproduce the opll hardware instruments on an OPL1. With thanks to Bernard Lamers and Hans Guijt for this information: Nr Register settingsName 1 61 61 12 20 b4 56 14 17 (violin) 2 02 41 15 20 a3 a3 75 05 (guitar) 3 31 11 0e 20 d9 b2 11 f4 (piano) 4 61 31 20 20 6c 43 18 26 (flute) 5 a2 30 a0 20 88 54 14 06 (clarinet) 6 31 34 20 20 72 56 0a 1c (oboe) 7 31 71 16 20 51 52 26 24 (trumpet) 8 e1 63 0a 20 fc f8 28 29 (organ) 9 61 71 0d 20 75 f2 18 03 (tube) a 42 44 0b 20 94 b0 33 f6 (synthesizer) b 01 00 06 20 a3 e2 f4 f4 (harpsichord) c f9 f1 24 20 95 d1 e5 f2 (vibraphone) d 40 31 89 20 c7 f9 14 04 (synthesizer bass) e 11 11 11 20 c0 b2 01 f4 (electric piano 2) f 23 43 09 20 dd bf 4a 05 (electric piano 1) Meaning of the 8 bytes to define an instrument: 0: AM/VIB/EGTYP/KSR/MULTI modulator 1: AM/VIB/EGTYP/KSR/MULTI carrier 2: KSL/TL modulator 3: KSL/TL carrier (notice: TL carrier is volume instrument!) 4: Attack rate/Decay rate modulator 5: Attack rate/Decay rate carrier 6: Sustain level/Release rate modulator 7: Sustain level/Release rate carrier Hans Guijt has used this information to emulate the fm-pac on fMSX amiga, using the OPL3 of an amiga sound extension card. For most fm-pac based games, you don't hear any difference between a real MSX and fMSX amiga! Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: FDC (was: UZIX & DOS2)
] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
R: SCC Cartridge
Why don't you buy an SCX ? Contact me :-) Bye, Stefano ---Fronteddu StefanoStudent in Software Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]http://members.xoom.it/duddu MSX, Sardinia, Robotics, Friendshttp://computer.digiland.it/1461 MSX Soft Tips PageMember of Miri Software - Italy http://Frengo.dragonfire.net/MSX.HTMICQ: 214014540338/3645458 -Messaggio Originale- Da: RJ A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data invio: giovedì 15 luglio 1999 17.00 Oggetto: SCC Cartridge Hi, I'm looking for a Konami with SCC. Anyone that can help me TIA, RJ
Re: R: Phoenix project - The new MSX platform pro-standarization
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:59:20 +0200, Maarten ter Huurne wrote: >Actually I'm not even sure voting is the best solution, since it will not >just have to be a standard, it will also have to be implemented. If some >group of "wise men" decides upon a standard and no hardware (or software ;) >developer wants to build it, it useless... I think the problem is that we need to choose solutions that are accepted by most of Hardware creators and Software Developers, it's not possible to find a solution that is right for everyone . So we can chose one or two people from every group interested in developing new hardware and in supporting it. This group of people takes part in the Phoenix Mailing List and report the discussion to his group. So we have a little group of people that rappresent a lot of people. by Frengo Miri Software MSX Computer System Italy e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage :http://Frengo.dragonfire.net/MSX.HTM *** MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: SCC Cartridge
>> Hi, I'm looking for a Konami with SCC. Anyone that can help me TIA, RJ You're not alone. Greetings Richard MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
SCC Cartridge
Hi, I'm looking for a Konami with SCC. Anyone that can help me TIA, RJ
Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing)
Tristan wrote: > This is only partly true. First, the OPL chip used on ADLIBs is not > called OPL1. Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 chips and delivers exactly the same output. And you're right, OPL1 is not the same as OPLL + something. It is indeed a different beast. :) []s, Parn MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Black boxes (Was "Re: "philosophical" view of emulation vs real thing")
Take some black boxes. Give the same imput to all the boxes. Watch the outputs. If the output is the same for all the boxes, the boxes are identical regardless what there is inside each one. Ciao! Maurizio Morandi a.k.a MxM Softworks on Msx $ IN MSX WE TRUST $ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
