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Hi, >>>Aren't there much more ways of paying from another country ? I'm not >>>specialized >>>in this, but I guess you can also pay by just putting the money on the >>>receivers >>>bank-account...? There must be other ways, as companies and the like >>>would really >>>have BIG problems doing business with foreign countries... >> >>Nah that costs (from Holland to err.. Germany for example) 7.50 Euro... Bit >>expensive if you buy something of 15 Euro, ain't it??? And you don't speed >>up the delivery... >> >> Yeah, I is expensive to send money abroad. Unless you buy a lot of stuff at once. >>>I think it's a little difficult to realize. But also here, I have to say >>>that I don't know >>>too much about these things... >> >>I think some club should become a "Sunrise" in Brazil (Sunrise Brazil???) >>(And now for Sunrise Japan!!!), just distributing all kinds of products and >>ordering them from Holland/Spain in larger quantities. I think the brazillian hardware should be distributed from Holland and Spain. It would be easier/faster to buy for people living in Europe. > > We don't need "Sunrises" spreaded all over the globe. We need people who >wants to work seriously with MSX. Last year, I bought a lot of things with >Gabriel Dabrowski, the "Red Devil" (who lives in Denmark): A Philips >monitor, a Sony HBI-V1 video digitizer, a 4x slotexpander... Lot of things, >I've spend more than US$ 400 with my MSX (again). > > So, I sent the money by IPO, but I didn't know if Gabriel would take my >money and 'fades out'. And I was right, he's a serious guy, and he sent all >the things to me. After, he told me that the Danish posting rates had been >raised, and if I could send more US$ 15 to him. "Yes, sure.". And I sent. >He was impressed, 'cause I haven't even argued with him. I've just sent the >rest of the money. :-) Yes I must agree it was pleasant to do business with you, what I can say about MBT, who never sent (or at least I never received it) me the extra payment due to the increased posting rates. I learned that it´s last time I pull out money out of my pocket and trust people that they will pay the extra costs. In that case I feel cheated by MSX BRAZILIAN TEAM and a polish guy who bought my MSX2+, neither of them sent me the extra payment. NExt time I´ll wait until I have all the money till I send anything, unless I do business with serious people like Ricardo Jurczyk :-) > > Unfortunately, due to the US dollar high rates, buying things from foreign >countries had become more difficult 4 us, Brazilians. If we're dishonest >with another MSXfreaks, it's bad 4 everyone: the buyer, the seller, and the >MSX community. So, if we want to keep working with MSX, we need be even >more serious, 'cause of the responsability. > > Note: My group, the BMC (Brazilian MSX Crew) will be selling the products >from Ademir Carchano (AdMouse, mini-slotexpander, Mega-SCSI, the ACE >motherboard) soon. > > Let me know the prices! Greetings from Gabriel, DENMARK Visit my MSX homepage and sign the guestbook :-) [Software, tips, music-disks, buy/sell/swap section, msx links, NMS-1170 Bar Code Reader page, Ultimate MSX-FAQ...] Use one of these URLs to enter: http://www.trd.msxnet.org http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/2653/ MSX links: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/2653/links.html To contact: Snail-mail: Gabriel Dabrowski Egevangen 94 8355 Solbjerg Denmark e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 20449307 Phone: +86928589 Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Rieks W. Torringa escreveu: > >The problem is that the taxes are too high. I mean, most of times, you > will pay > >US$ 20 just to send US$ 10 to someone from Brazil to Netherlands. And i > didn't > >even mentioned the time it will take for the software to travel from > Netherlands > >to Brazil by ship (2 or 3 months). Using credit cards would be easier > and > > Well, air mail also exists. It's a little more expensive, but when > sending just a disk > there isn't this much difference (I use to send everything I send from > here (Japan) > to The Netherlands by airmail). Altough air mail is fast, it's too expensive. I use to buy books and CD's in the net, and the price to send it by air mail would be too expensive if you're buying only 1 or 2 cd's. And besides, why use our money with mail when we could use it to buy more msx stuff, receiving them by e-mail? > >cheaper. if he send it to me by e-mail, i could buy and receive it in > no more than > >2 days! (time needed to check the number of the card before sending the > >software). > > Well, for me MSX and the like is some kind of hobby. We like doing > things with > MSX and so. If there was a possibility of easily installing a system > like this, I guess > it's okay. But I have very little knowledge of Internet (as it doesn't > really have my > special interest) and of foreign money flows (I always hated economics). Someone here pointed to a site that could solve our problems. Check it and tell me what do you think about it: http://www.kagi.com > That's why > I don't really feel inspired to check it all out, I'm sorry. I guess > there are some > other ways, e.g. a club in Brazil importing larger amounts of > software... I talked with our local dealer in Brazil, and he explained that he can't import larger amounts of software because the sales wouldn't be that good, so he would loose money. And that's the problem: altough people from Brazil wouldn't buy thousands of copies from a software, 15 or 20 copies would help someone to produce more softwares. He wouldn't get rich, but it would help. []s Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Rieks W. Torringa wrote: >>Sunrise Japan would be HITACHI... oh no, that exists already :) > >Doesn't HITACHI mean something like 'the standing sun' ? I guess >the link Sunrise and Japan is just the name. The Japanese name for >Japan is NIHON or NIPPON which means something like 'the origin >of the sun'... I didn't mean that! I meant 'hitachi' means 'sunrise'. The kanji 'tachi' (or 'tatsu') means either 'to stand' or 'to rise up'. In this case it's not 'the standing sun', but 'the rising sun' or... sunrise! And we all know Hitachi is a well-known japanese company. jaa mata ne! Patoriku-kun [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,-. ,. ,-. TNI on the web: | '-.| ,-. \ '-' http://www.xs4all.nl/~newimage/ Member of| ,-'| | | | ,-. The New Image | '--' | | '-' | Check out "MSX Banzai!" at: since 1991`--' '-' http://www.xs4all.nl/~newimage/MSXBanzai!/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi >Sunrise Japan would be HITACHI... oh no, that exists already :) Doesn't HITACHI mean something like 'the standing sun' ? I guess the link Sunrise and Japan is just the name. The Japanese name for Japan is NIHON or NIPPON which means something like 'the origin of the sun'... Bye Rieks Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi >The problem is that the taxes are too high. I mean, most of times, you will pay >US$ 20 just to send US$ 10 to someone from Brazil to Netherlands. And i didn't >even mentioned the time it will take for the software to travel from Netherlands >to Brazil by ship (2 or 3 months). Using credit cards would be easier and Well, air mail also exists. It's a little more expensive, but when sending just a disk there isn't this much difference (I use to send everything I send from here (Japan) to The Netherlands by airmail). >cheaper. if he send it to me by e-mail, i could buy and receive it in no more than >2 days! (time needed to check the number of the card before sending the >software). Well, for me MSX and the like is some kind of hobby. We like doing things with MSX and so. If there was a possibility of easily installing a system like this, I guess it's okay. But I have very little knowledge of Internet (as it doesn't really have my special interest) and of foreign money flows (I always hated economics). That's why I don't really feel inspired to check it all out, I'm sorry. I guess there are some other ways, e.g. a club in Brazil importing larger amounts of software... Bye Rieks Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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CVGFONY escreveu: > >It's fine for me if it's only one, if every club has his own system, but we need > >this. About Moonsound or any other hardware, this is only for software, so we can > >use e-mail to send the software. I don't care for disks with label, I only want > >the software. :-) > > You should take a look at http://www.kagi.com , its a aystem that lets you > register your downloaded software. A lot of emulators can be registered this > way, so why not use it for MSX software? I saw it, and it looks fine for me. Well, what the other people think about that? Why not MadriSX 99 use this service to allow people around the world to buy softwares from the expositors? I believe this can be a good way to solve this problem... Regards, Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi! >It's fine for me if it's only one, if every club has his own system, but we need >this. About Moonsound or any other hardware, this is only for software, so we can >use e-mail to send the software. I don't care for disks with label, I only want >the software. :-) You should take a look at http://www.kagi.com , its a aystem that lets you register your downloaded software. A lot of emulators can be registered this way, so why not use it for MSX software? Greetz Collin MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Laurens Holst escreveu: > >We already have one local dealer, it's the MBT (MSX Brazilian Team). > Altough > >they're doing a great job, they can't solve the problems i mentioned. I'll > give > >you an example: In December, he called people in a brazilian MSX list to > buy > >Hnostar 42. almost 30 paid for one, and he sent the money to the club > Hnostar. > >Well, I (and others) am still waiting for it (it's supposed to be here next > week, > >but who knows?). Is that MBT's fault? Not at all. It's because it is coming > by > >ship, and it takes too much time. While a magazine like Hnostar can't be > sent by > >e-mail, a software can. and a software would be here in 10 minutes after > you sent > >it, by snail mail, it will take 2 or 3 months. :-( > > But they don't deliver from stock, and Sunrise and Hnostar etc. do... It's hard to keep a stock, because you don't know how many people will buy it. And he would need money to buy it and keep it waiting to people buy. and if they don't buy it, he will loose money. > >That's an option as well. But for those who won't make it freeware, selling > by > >e-mail is a good thing. Come on, it's time to use the internet to integrate > >ourselves even more. Let's do business here. :-) > > Well at least I won't make my products freeware... But listen, then there > should be *one person* who controls all selling etc via the internet, > because if all clubs would do that, it would be a very time-consuming thing, > and far not every club has the knowledge to start something like this. So > then there should be a central person who gets a copy of a game with the > price mentioned and then sells it and gives the money to the maker of the > game (or something else, ofcourse). However, you still can't order an > MoonSound by email... It's fine for me if it's only one, if every club has his own system, but we need this. About Moonsound or any other hardware, this is only for software, so we can use e-mail to send the software. I don't care for disks with label, I only want the software. :-) > And far not everyone has got a creditard (I don't have one, I'm 17 :)), but > that problem ain't too big, I think. There probably are family or friends > who have got one. Yes, that's right. Everyone can have access to a credit card these days. Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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At 20:51 03/03/99 +0100, you wrote: >>Aren't there much more ways of paying from another country ? I'm not >>specialized >>in this, but I guess you can also pay by just putting the money on the >>receivers >>bank-account...? There must be other ways, as companies and the like >>would really >>have BIG problems doing business with foreign countries... > >Nah that costs (from Holland to err.. Germany for example) 7.50 Euro... Bit >expensive if you buy something of 15 Euro, ain't it??? And you don't speed >up the delivery... > > >>I think it's a little difficult to realize. But also here, I have to say >>that I don't know >>too much about these things... > >I think some club should become a "Sunrise" in Brazil (Sunrise Brazil???) >(And now for Sunrise Japan!!!), just distributing all kinds of products and >ordering them from Holland/Spain in larger quantities. We don't need "Sunrises" spreaded all over the globe. We need people who wants to work seriously with MSX. Last year, I bought a lot of things with Gabriel Dabrowski, the "Red Devil" (who lives in Denmark): A Philips monitor, a Sony HBI-V1 video digitizer, a 4x slotexpander... Lot of things, I've spend more than US$ 400 with my MSX (again). So, I sent the money by IPO, but I didn't know if Gabriel would take my money and 'fades out'. And I was right, he's a serious guy, and he sent all the things to me. After, he told me that the Danish posting rates had been raised, and if I could send more US$ 15 to him. "Yes, sure.". And I sent. He was impressed, 'cause I haven't even argued with him. I've just sent the rest of the money. Unfortunately, due to the US dollar high rates, buying things from foreign countries had become more difficult 4 us, Brazilians. If we're dishonest with another MSXfreaks, it's bad 4 everyone: the buyer, the seller, and the MSX community. So, if we want to keep working with MSX, we need be even more serious, 'cause of the responsability. Note: My group, the BMC (Brazilian MSX Crew) will be selling the products from Ademir Carchano (AdMouse, mini-slotexpander, Mega-SCSI, the ACE motherboard) soon. Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro - ICQ UIN:3635907 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|_Sola Scriptura | http://i.am/rjp -M.Sc. Numerical Modelling (hope so!) |_ Sola Gratia | UFF - Niteroi - RJ - Brazil - [EMAIL PROTECTED]_| Sola Fide | MSX, ST, B5, X-F, Anime, Christian, Maths, CuD, Linux!_| Solo Cristi | Christian, Rock, Comics, Transformers, and hate M$! | Soli Deo Gloria | MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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>We already have one local dealer, it's the MBT (MSX Brazilian Team). Altough >they're doing a great job, they can't solve the problems i mentioned. I'll give >you an example: In December, he called people in a brazilian MSX list to buy >Hnostar 42. almost 30 paid for one, and he sent the money to the club Hnostar. >Well, I (and others) am still waiting for it (it's supposed to be here next week, >but who knows?). Is that MBT's fault? Not at all. It's because it is coming by >ship, and it takes too much time. While a magazine like Hnostar can't be sent by >e-mail, a software can. and a software would be here in 10 minutes after you sent >it, by snail mail, it will take 2 or 3 months. :-( But they don't deliver from stock, and Sunrise and Hnostar etc. do... >That's an option as well. But for those who won't make it freeware, selling by >e-mail is a good thing. Come on, it's time to use the internet to integrate >ourselves even more. Let's do business here. :-) Well at least I won't make my products freeware... But listen, then there should be *one person* who controls all selling etc via the internet, because if all clubs would do that, it would be a very time-consuming thing, and far not every club has the knowledge to start something like this. So then there should be a central person who gets a copy of a game with the price mentioned and then sells it and gives the money to the maker of the game (or something else, ofcourse). However, you still can't order an MoonSound by email... And far not everyone has got a creditard (I don't have one, I'm 17 :)), but that problem ain't too big, I think. There probably are family or friends who have got one. ~Grauw MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Rieks W. Torringa escreveu: > Hi > > >There is another option. An organisation in Brazil could distribute > foreign > >games. They could send the disks to the buyer right away and send to > money > >to the creators once for every 10 games for example. What we need is > >someone who is willing to spend time and is trustworthy. > > I agree. I also think this is the best option. In this way, Spanish and > Japanese > software, for example, also has been released in The Netherlands. And > vice > versa. We already have one local dealer, it's the MBT (MSX Brazilian Team). Altough they're doing a great job, they can't solve the problems i mentioned. I'll give you an example: In December, he called people in a brazilian MSX list to buy Hnostar 42. almost 30 paid for one, and he sent the money to the club Hnostar. Well, I (and others) am still waiting for it (it's supposed to be here next week, but who knows?). Is that MBT's fault? Not at all. It's because it is coming by ship, and it takes too much time. While a magazine like Hnostar can't be sent by e-mail, a software can. and a software would be here in 10 minutes after you sent it, by snail mail, it will take 2 or 3 months. :-( > >And yet another option: make your product freeware. In that case, net > >distribution solves almost every problem. You can still sell it at > fairs at > >a low price, for people who don't have net access, for people who like > >disks with nice labels and for promotion. > > Yeah... Also a possibility. You don't really earn much by selling it on > a fair. > But somehow it feels different when selling a product... It's more a > matter > of feeling than of finance. I don't know if you can understand this... That's an option as well. But for those who won't make it freeware, selling by e-mail is a good thing. Come on, it's time to use the internet to integrate ourselves even more. Let's do business here. :-) Regards, Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Rieks W. Torringa escreveu: > >Since i'm from Brazil, i (and many others from other country's) can't > go to > >Tilburg. So i won't be able to buy this software. And i don't want to > send money > >by mail, and wait 3-4 months to receive it from normal snail mail. Many > people > >might think the same, so we don't buy those softwares, the coders don't > get the > >money, and both are unhappy. There are lots of good softwares that we > could buy > > Aren't there much more ways of paying from another country ? I'm not > specialized > in this, but I guess you can also pay by just putting the money on the > receivers > bank-account...? There must be other ways, as companies and the like > would really > have BIG problems doing business with foreign countries... The problem is that the taxes are too high. I mean, most of times, you will pay US$ 20 just to send US$ 10 to someone from Brazil to Netherlands. And i didn't even mentioned the time it will take for the software to travel from Netherlands to Brazil by ship (2 or 3 months). Using credit cards would be easier and cheaper. if he send it to me by e-mail, i could buy and receive it in no more than 2 days! (time needed to check the number of the card before sending the software). > >and we don't (Sonyc, English Firehawk, etc). So why the people that > organizes > >Tilburg fair and the software coders don't sell their softwares > allowing people to > >pay with credit cards? It would have many advantages. Someone could > connect in the > >net, access a homepage (a safety homepage, of course), send it credit > card number, > >someone would check it to see if it's not a fake number, and then it > would send > >the software by e-mail. No more mail fees, no more time waiting, it > would be much > >simpler and easier, most of all, it would be fast and cheap. :-) It > would increase > >the sales, allowing people to do more softwares, so i think it's good > for > >everybody. The only thing we couldn't have is those disk with nice > labels, but > >that's not really important to me (and the picture could be sent by > e-mail to, so > >we could print it in home, if we like :-) ). Well, what do you guys > think about > >that? > > I think it's a little difficult to realize. But also here, I have to say > that I don't know > too much about these things... Well, it doesn't seem to be that difficult, i believe, because many people are already selling softwares by credit cards in the net. See Marat Fayzullin. He sells all his emulators with credit cards. There are many others like him on the net. Check it out. Regards, Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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>Laurens Holst wrote: >>I think some club should become a "Sunrise" in Brazil (Sunrise Brazil???) >>(And now for Sunrise Japan!!!), just distributing all kinds of products and >>ordering them from Holland/Spain in larger quantities. > >Sunrise Japan would be HITACHI... oh no, that exists already :) Well since there's Hnostar Japon and Miri Japan... ~Grauw MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Laurens Holst wrote: >I think some club should become a "Sunrise" in Brazil (Sunrise Brazil???) >(And now for Sunrise Japan!!!), just distributing all kinds of products and >ordering them from Holland/Spain in larger quantities. Sunrise Japan would be HITACHI... oh no, that exists already :) Greetz, Patriek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,-. ,. ,-. TNI on the web: | '-.| ,-. \ '-' http://www.xs4all.nl/~newimage/ Member of| ,-'| | | | ,-. The New Image | '--' | | '-' | Check out "MSX Banzai!" at: since 1991`--' '-' http://www.xs4all.nl/~newimage/MSXBanzai!/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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>Aren't there much more ways of paying from another country ? I'm not >specialized >in this, but I guess you can also pay by just putting the money on the >receivers >bank-account...? There must be other ways, as companies and the like >would really >have BIG problems doing business with foreign countries... Nah that costs (from Holland to err.. Germany for example) 7.50 Euro... Bit expensive if you buy something of 15 Euro, ain't it??? And you don't speed up the delivery... >I think it's a little difficult to realize. But also here, I have to say >that I don't know >too much about these things... I think some club should become a "Sunrise" in Brazil (Sunrise Brazil???) (And now for Sunrise Japan!!!), just distributing all kinds of products and ordering them from Holland/Spain in larger quantities. ~Grauw MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi >There is another option. An organisation in Brazil could distribute foreign >games. They could send the disks to the buyer right away and send to money >to the creators once for every 10 games for example. What we need is >someone who is willing to spend time and is trustworthy. I agree. I also think this is the best option. In this way, Spanish and Japanese software, for example, also has been released in The Netherlands. And vice versa. >And yet another option: make your product freeware. In that case, net >distribution solves almost every problem. You can still sell it at fairs at >a low price, for people who don't have net access, for people who like >disks with nice labels and for promotion. Yeah... Also a possibility. You don't really earn much by selling it on a fair. But somehow it feels different when selling a product... It's more a matter of feeling than of finance. I don't know if you can understand this... Bye Rieks __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi >That's great. :-) Maybe i'm asking too much, but it is possible to, in the near >future, someone adapt it t so we can install it on HD ? I remember someone from >Brazil did it, he even sent to some people a beta version. maybe you could work >with him so we could have an english and unprotected version that we could install >in HD... That would be cool! :-) And finally, i would like to make a suggestion: Well, I personally don't know too much of programming and the like, so I guess I'm not the fitting person to make this HD-version of Firehawk... But if there's someone that CAN handle it, ofcourse we could make an English version, on harddisk installable. >Since i'm from Brazil, i (and many others from other country's) can't go to >Tilburg. So i won't be able to buy this software. And i don't want to send money >by mail, and wait 3-4 months to receive it from normal snail mail. Many people >might think the same, so we don't buy those softwares, the coders don't get the >money, and both are unhappy. There are lots of good softwares that we could buy Aren't there much more ways of paying from another country ? I'm not specialized in this, but I guess you can also pay by just putting the money on the receivers bank-account...? There must be other ways, as companies and the like would really have BIG problems doing business with foreign countries... >and we don't (Sonyc, English Firehawk, etc). So why the people that organizes >Tilburg fair and the software coders don't sell their softwares allowing people to >pay with credit cards? It would have many advantages. Someone could connect in the >net, access a homepage (a safety homepage, of course), send it credit card number, >someone would check it to see if it's not a fake number, and then it would send >the software by e-mail. No more mail fees, no more time waiting, it would be much >simpler and easier, most of all, it would be fast and cheap. :-) It would increase >the sales, allowing people to do more softwares, so i think it's good for >everybody. The only thing we couldn't have is those disk with nice labels, but >that's not really important to me (and the picture could be sent by e-mail to, so >we could print it in home, if we like :-) ). Well, what do you guys think about >that? I think it's a little difficult to realize. But also here, I have to say that I don't know too much about these things... Bye, Rieks PS:We will ofcourse find a way to also distribute the English Firehawk in foreign countries. The only question is:HOW, but I guess it doesn't have to be such a big problem... We'll check it out ! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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At 09:10 AM 02/28/99 -0300, you wrote: >So why the people that organizes >Tilburg fair and the software coders don't sell their softwares allowing >people to pay with credit cards? I have no idea how to accept credit cards. Can someone tell us? If it's difficult, maybe one organisation could do it (Sunrise, NBNO, ...) and distribute software for everyone. There is another option. An organisation in Brazil could distribute foreign games. They could send the disks to the buyer right away and send to money to the creators once for every 10 games for example. What we need is someone who is willing to spend time and is trustworthy. And yet another option: make your product freeware. In that case, net distribution solves almost every problem. You can still sell it at fairs at a low price, for people who don't have net access, for people who like disks with nice labels and for promotion. Bye, Maarten MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Rieks W. Torringa escreveu: > >> I'm in too. Shalom is a great game. :-) By the way, can you tell me > where > >> can i > >> find the english version of firehawk? > > >Note that the program is finished but is still in Japan. Our translator > >Rieks lives there for a year. He will send the disks to me. I have to > design > >two nice labels and then it is ready for selling. All this can take up > about > >a month. > > Actually, Firehawk's translation time has been extended a little. From > Maarten > I received some help implementing the translated intro and extro-texts > in the > game itself, instead of printing it on a piece of paper. I guess the > whole will > be available in Tilburg, translated completely. That's great. :-) Maybe i'm asking too much, but it is possible to, in the near future, someone adapt it t so we can install it on HD ? I remember someone from Brazil did it, he even sent to some people a beta version. maybe you could work with him so we could have an english and unprotected version that we could install in HD... That would be cool! :-) And finally, i would like to make a suggestion: Since i'm from Brazil, i (and many others from other country's) can't go to Tilburg. So i won't be able to buy this software. And i don't want to send money by mail, and wait 3-4 months to receive it from normal snail mail. Many people might think the same, so we don't buy those softwares, the coders don't get the money, and both are unhappy. There are lots of good softwares that we could buy and we don't (Sonyc, English Firehawk, etc). So why the people that organizes Tilburg fair and the software coders don't sell their softwares allowing people to pay with credit cards? It would have many advantages. Someone could connect in the net, access a homepage (a safety homepage, of course), send it credit card number, someone would check it to see if it's not a fake number, and then it would send the software by e-mail. No more mail fees, no more time waiting, it would be much simpler and easier, most of all, it would be fast and cheap. :-) It would increase the sales, allowing people to do more softwares, so i think it's good for everybody. The only thing we couldn't have is those disk with nice labels, but that's not really important to me (and the picture could be sent by e-mail to, so we could print it in home, if we like :-) ). Well, what do you guys think about that? Best regards, Mauricio Braga. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: AW: AW: English Snatcher
Hi >> I'm in too. Shalom is a great game. :-) By the way, can you tell me where >> can i >> find the english version of firehawk? >Note that the program is finished but is still in Japan. Our translator >Rieks lives there for a year. He will send the disks to me. I have to design >two nice labels and then it is ready for selling. All this can take up about >a month. Actually, Firehawk's translation time has been extended a little. From Maarten I received some help implementing the translated intro and extro-texts in the game itself, instead of printing it on a piece of paper. I guess the whole will be available in Tilburg, translated completely. Bye, Rieks __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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> -- > Van: Maurmcio Braga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Verzonden:woensdag 24 februari 1999 3:40 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp:Re: AW: English Snatcher > > Robert Vroemisse escreveu: > > > > >Sargon has finished an English translation of Fire Hawk > > > >We are now Working on Randar 2, and maybe we will translate Psycho > World > > > and > > > >Randar 3 as well > > > > > > Suggestion: what about Shalom, Knightmare 3? I was hooked on Maze of > > > Galious and I want to complete the trilogy :-) > > > If you have this request you must contact Rieks Warendorp Torringa. He's > our > > translator. > > I'm in too. Shalom is a great game. :-) By the way, can you tell me where > can i > find the english version of firehawk? > > Regards, > > Mauricio Braga. > You can order it by mailing me personally at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that the program is finished but is still in Japan. Our translator Rieks lives there for a year. He will send the disks to me. I have to design two nice labels and then it is ready for selling. All this can take up about a month (especially the sen > > MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > put > in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without > the > quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/) > > MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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Hi there, >Could you mail me that disk please.pretty please.pretty please with >sugar on the top.pretty please with sugar,strawberries an icecream on >the top. >(ps any resemblance with monkey island is purly coincidal) I think you can find it on one of Sean Young's (not the actress) Konami pages. I think the URL is something like support.euronet.nl/~sean, but I can be wrong. If I am, I will bring my own disk with me to work next Monday. Grtz Coen MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
