Re: Hates & Gates (was: aamsx.org & aamsx.com)

2002-01-03 Thread Pedro Giebels

I'm gone by sick of this discusion stop with it.
For the persons who cant read englisch.
Stop this fight
Pare esta lucha
Arrestare questa lotta
Stoppen Sie diesen Kampf
この戦いを停止しなさい
Stop dit gevecht

Sory for html

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Hates & Gates (was: aamsx.org & aamsx.com)

2002-01-03 Thread nestor soriano

> *heheh* Ah, them spanish. Still in the middle of the dark & gloomy middle
> ages.
> No wonder it was so easy sending them back home back in 1648 :-)

Heretic!! God will send you to burn in hell. But before, I'll burn you in the middle 
of the town, and your soul will vanish in the darkness.

Ehum... you didn't noticed yet that "Spain is different"? That's the matter, nothing 
more and nothing less! Even in the euro age!! X-D

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RE: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Bart Schouten

Please stop this uninteresting discussion before things might get out of
hand.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Eric Boon

> Which means that the dutch users have driven away everyone they hated &
> picked on and the Spanish did not yet achieve that goal.

*heheh* Ah, them spanish. Still in the middle of the dark & gloomy middle
ages.
No wonder it was so easy sending them back home back in 1648 :-)

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Zuidema

> And Sander: I especially want to point out that I am surprised about the
> hate *in 2002*! The FAC stuff was ages ago.

Which means that the dutch users have driven away everyone they hated &
picked on
and the Spanish did not yet achieve that goal.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek

> I hope he does :)


I do, but I'm not happy that my serious message changed into a joke.

 
> Anyway, I noticed missing stuff from FAQ, I hope I can soon fill
> this hole of information from Zemmix system.

Hey! New info for FAQ is *always* welcome. You be sure I will use it!
Thanks in advance, Saku!

And Sander: I especially want to point out that I am surprised about the 
hate *in 2002*! The FAC stuff was ages ago.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Zuidema

> PrePS: I intended to write a very serious message.

Ok, to be serious.. 
The Spanish MSX Scene is probably not as full as hate as we think here
and the Dutch MSX Scene has had its deal of hate in the past as well..
(Boy am I glad I wasn't part of the FAC ;)))

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Saku Taipale

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Sander Zuidema wrote:

> > Sounds like some joke is slipping too far here - again...
> 
> Nah, just sick David Heremans & Sander Zuidema humor
> As long as Manuel understands... 
> 
> Sander


I hope he does :)

Anyway, I noticed missing stuff from FAQ, I hope I can soon fill
this hole of information from Zemmix system.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Zuidema

> Sounds like some joke is slipping too far here - again...

Nah, just sick David Heremans & Sander Zuidema humor
As long as Manuel understands... 

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Saku Taipale


On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Manuel Bilderbeek wrote:

> David Heremans wrote:
> 
> >>Yeah, I personally hate that Manuel Bilderbeek. My God, what an annoying
> >>bloke that guy is
> >>;
> >>
> >>
> > Yeah, who does he think he is anyway. Maintaining a FAQ and all...
> 
> *sob* *sob* *snigger* ...
> 
> PrePS: I intended to write a very serious message.


Sounds like some joke is slipping too far here - again...

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek

David Heremans wrote:

>>Yeah, I personally hate that Manuel Bilderbeek. My God, what an annoying
>>bloke that guy is
>>;
>>
>>
> Yeah, who does he think he is anyway. Maintaining a FAQ and all...

*sob* *sob* *snigger* ...

PrePS: I intended to write a very serious message.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread David Heremans

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 12:37:20PM +0100, Sander Zuidema wrote:
> > What is the problem in Spain? Here in the NL the atmosphere is far less
> > hostile! (Or am I missing something?)
> 
> Yeah, I personally hate that Manuel Bilderbeek. My God, what an annoying
> bloke that guy is
> ;
> 
Yeah, who does he think he is anyway. Maintaining a FAQ and all...
:-P

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Zuidema
> What is the problem in Spain? Here in the NL the atmosphere is far less
> hostile! (Or am I missing something?)

Yeah, I personally hate that Manuel Bilderbeek. My God, what an annoying
bloke that guy is
;

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2002-01-02 Thread Manuel Bilderbeek
ag0ny wrote:

> Who sent you that email telling that aamsx.org will become aamsx.com is
> obviously trying to 'boycott' (if this is the appropiate word) my site.
> And most likely it was Traposoft, since he's a LAMER and did that
> already (try http://www.aamsx.org/guestbook.php?debug=1&lamers=1 and see
> for yourself).

Geeez I sense a lot of hostility in the Spanish MSX scene... What is
the problem??
Why are people fighting each other in such a small scene?? This is so
very bad for MSX... In these times this is the last thing you want... We
should all work together and back each other up! Well, at least not
fight each other...

What is the problem in Spain? Here in the NL the atmosphere is far less
hostile! (Or am I missing something?)


I think it is quite sad


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Re: Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-23 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero



On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, TRAPOSOFT wrote:

> Hello ag0ny,
> 
> Saturday, December 22, 2001, 3:52:35 AM, you wrote:
> 
> a> You're right. Unfortunately, there are a few very noisy lamers in the
> a> Spanish MSX scene. One of them is Traposoft.
>  
> it is the first time that somebody calls to me to lamer.


Are you sure? I have heard it a lot.




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Re[4]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello Mari,

Saturday, December 22, 2001, 3:08:47 PM, you wrote:

MvdB> Hello,

MvdB> If you like to continue this "discussion" do it in private and not in the
MvdB> MSX-Mailinglist...

MvdB> Many people don't know what is the real story or what happened exactely, so
MvdB> stop this mail-thread...

Sorry, it will doesn´t return to happen



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Re: Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread Mari van den Broek

Hello,

If you like to continue this "discussion" do it in private and not in the
MSX-Mailinglist...

Many people don't know what is the real story or what happened exactely, so
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Re[4]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello Hans,

Saturday, December 22, 2001, 1:44:30 PM, you wrote:

HO> Hi,


HO> I do like and appreciate both aamsx.org and aamsx.com!

HO> Both have their strong points, and both serve the MSX community.

HO> Please dont fight :) Lets have fun with MSX! Keep up the good work.

Yes, the fight between users is absurd. Now you have 2 good news sites
of MSX in Spain. It is the good part.



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Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello ag0ny,

Saturday, December 22, 2001, 3:52:35 AM, you wrote:

a> You're right. Unfortunately, there are a few very noisy lamers in the
a> Spanish MSX scene. One of them is Traposoft.
 
it is the first time that somebody calls to me to lamer.
In Spain people does´nt hate me. But you are not appreciated.
 



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Re: Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread Hans Otten

Hi,


I do like and appreciate both aamsx.org and aamsx.com!

Both have their strong points, and both serve the MSX community.

Please dont fight :) Lets have fun with MSX! Keep up the good work.



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Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-22 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello ag0ny,

a> Who sent you that email? aamsx.org will NOT become aamsx.com, because
a> these are different sites. aamsx.org is my site (written and maintained
a> by me since its beginning almost two years ago) and aamsx.com is
a> Traposoft's site.

aamsx.com is not the TRAPOSOFT site and your you know it.
It is the Web of the AAM (Association of Friends of the MSX).
Webmaster is Jose Maria Alonso and single I collaborate putting the news

a> Who sent you that email telling that aamsx.org will become aamsx.com is
a> obviously trying to 'boycott' (if this is the appropiate word) my site.
a> And most likely it was Traposoft, since he's a LAMER and did that
a> already (try http://www.aamsx.org/guestbook.php?debug=1&lamers=1 and see
a> for yourself).

You are mistaken, I have not been the one who have said this.
It has had to be another member of the AAM.

a> Regards,

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread ag0ny
Hi,

Beno$B{U(B Delvaux wrote:
> Well, I'm not so astonished as you by this evolution.

'Evolution'? 

> aamsx.org seems now to be a part of the personal site of agOny (on the other
> parts of his site, you can find many pictures of  Japan ; don't forget

No. aamsx.org is NOT part of my personal site. My personal site
(http://www.ag0ny.com) is just that: my personal site, and it has
nothing to do with aamsx.org, except for the fact that I maintain both.

> aamsx.com is more in relation with the MSX actuality ...  That was also the
> case of aamsx.org was before agOny leaves Spain for Japan. I think that this

The fact that aamsx.org has not been updated in a while is just that
since three weeks ago I'm in Japan and won't have much free time. But
this is a temporal situation.

> situation is the result of some rivalry and jealousy between Spanish MSX
> fans (it's the same for the Spanish MSX lists : hispamsx and msxtt ... : in
> fact, msxtt and aamsx.com are "directed" by one person , very active about
> MSX )

You're right. Unfortunately, there are a few very noisy lamers in the
Spanish MSX scene. One of them is Traposoft.
 
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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread ag0ny
Hi,

TRAPOSOFT wrote:
> Please, if you has a old link of aamsx.org update to aamsx.com.

A link to aamsx.org is NOT an 'old link'. 

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread ag0ny
Hi,

Philip Pera wrote:

> Was astonished to receive an e-mail telling that aamsx.org is
> becoming aamsx.com - I knew of the two sites but thought they were
> handled separately - any confirmation of this as both sites seem to
> still run?

Who sent you that email? aamsx.org will NOT become aamsx.com, because
these are different sites. aamsx.org is my site (written and maintained
by me since its beginning almost two years ago) and aamsx.com is
Traposoft's site.

Who sent you that email telling that aamsx.org will become aamsx.com is
obviously trying to 'boycott' (if this is the appropiate word) my site.
And most likely it was Traposoft, since he's a LAMER and did that
already (try http://www.aamsx.org/guestbook.php?debug=1&lamers=1 and see
for yourself).

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Re: Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread Benoît Delvaux

Hello !

(message of TRAPOSOFT)>
> It is wrong, aamsx.com is "directed" by the AAM in special by Jose Maria
> Alonso ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I am only one colaborator of the web that
> put news.
>
> In fact, MSXTT is "directed" by me.
>
.
Many thanks for your explanations. I was troubled by the fact that you are
very active about MSX, but I didn't know that you was the only person to put
the news on line!

But keep going with this excellent work. aamsx.com is one of the best
sources for MSX news !


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Re[3]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello people

I don´t want a war of messages in this mailing list when ag0ny replies
this messages.

I have said because aamsx.com exists and am not going to say nothing
about this.






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Re[2]: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello Benoît,

BD> aamsx.org seems now to be a part of the personal site of agOny (on the other
BD> parts of his site, you can find many pictures of  Japan ; don't forget
BD> that this lucky Spanishe MSX fan lives now in Japan and could be associated
BD> to the MSX Revival !)

BD> aamsx.com is more in relation with the MSX actuality ...  That was also the
BD> case of aamsx.org was before agOny leaves Spain for Japan. I think that this
BD> situation is the result of some rivalry and jealousy between Spanish MSX
BD> fans (it's the same for the Spanish MSX lists : hispamsx and msxtt ... :

aamsx.com has born when ag0ny (the old webmaster of AAM) robbed the
domain aamsx.org. This domain was payed with money of Asociacion de
Amigos del MSX. This is the history.

BD> in fact, msxtt and aamsx.com are "directed" by one person , very active about
BD> MSX )

It is wrong, aamsx.com is "directed" by the AAM in special by Jose Maria
Alonso ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I am only one colaborator of the web that
put news.

In fact, MSXTT is "directed" by me.

BD> Maybe i'm wrong, but that's all I can understand from all the facts about
BD> the Spanish MSX scene.






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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread Benoît Delvaux

Hello, Phil !

Well, I'm not so astonished as you by this evolution.

aamsx.org seems now to be a part of the personal site of agOny (on the other
parts of his site, you can find many pictures of  Japan ; don't forget
that this lucky Spanishe MSX fan lives now in Japan and could be associated
to the MSX Revival !)

aamsx.com is more in relation with the MSX actuality ...  That was also the
case of aamsx.org was before agOny leaves Spain for Japan. I think that this
situation is the result of some rivalry and jealousy between Spanish MSX
fans (it's the same for the Spanish MSX lists : hispamsx and msxtt ... : in
fact, msxtt and aamsx.com are "directed" by one person , very active about
MSX )

Maybe i'm wrong, but that's all I can understand from all the facts about
the Spanish MSX scene.

I see that the answer of Traposoft confirms my reflexion about this
situation.

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Subject: aamsx.org & aamsx.com


> Was astonished to receive an e-mail telling that aamsx.org is
> becoming aamsx.com - I knew of the two sites but thought they were
> handled separately - any confirmation of this as both sites seem to
> still run?
>
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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello Philip,

Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:03:27 PM, you wrote:

PP> Was astonished to receive an e-mail telling that aamsx.org is 
PP> becoming aamsx.com - I knew of the two sites but thought they were 
PP> handled separately - any confirmation of this as both sites seem to 
PP> still run?

The official site of "Asociacion de Amigos del MSX" now is
www.aamsx.com

www.aamsx.org is now a personal site of ag0ny.

The reason of the two pages is simple. The domain www.aamsx.org was
robbed by ag0ny to the Asociacion de Amigos del MSX (AAM). Now, the AAM
have buyed the domain www.aamsx.com.

Please, if you has a old link of aamsx.org update to aamsx.com.

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Re: aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread TRAPOSOFT

Hello Philip,

Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:03:27 PM, you wrote:

PP> Was astonished to receive an e-mail telling that aamsx.org is 
PP> becoming aamsx.com - I knew of the two sites but thought they were 
PP> handled separately - any confirmation of this as both sites seem to 
PP> still run?

The official site of "Asociacion de Amigos del MSX" now is
www.aamsx.com

www.aamsx.org is now a personal site of ag0ny.

The reason of the two pages is simple. The domain www.aamsx.org was
stoled by ag0ny to the Asociacion de Amigos del MSX (AAM). Now, the AAM
has buyed the domain www.aamsx.com.

Please, if you has a old link of aamsx.org update to aamsx.com.

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aamsx.org & aamsx.com

2001-12-21 Thread Philip Pera

Was astonished to receive an e-mail telling that aamsx.org is 
becoming aamsx.com - I knew of the two sites but thought they were 
handled separately - any confirmation of this as both sites seem to 
still run?

Phil
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