to/cc/bcc address entry bug

1999-01-19 Thread Joe Rhett


I realize this is a user input failure, but the result is somewhat obtuse.

Let's say that you want to add a CC recipient to a list. You hit "C", and
it opens the list:

Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _-cursor here

If you type ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]" it works fine. But if you simple type
another e-mail address, like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", the Cc: list is
truncated to simply:

Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

.. I can't imagine that this is an intended effect. I realize that users
should learn to add commas, but it seems like that many people will fall
down over this one.

BTW: This problem occurs in every address input field. If you open a new
mail message and type: "person1, person2 person3" .. you will end up with
only 1 recipient.

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Re: to/cc/bcc address entry bug

1999-01-19 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl

On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:00:53PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote:
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _-cursor here
 
 If you type ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]" it works fine. But if you simple type
 another e-mail address, like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", the Cc: list is
 truncated to simply:
 
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 .. I can't imagine that this is an intended effect.

You are wrong, this is indeed intended. Most of the Fields auto-delete
their contents if the user simply starts to type. Only if you use an
editing function, or in this case a , to signal that you want to
modify/add to the existing list, it stays.

CU,
Sec
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undo (abandon) changes *without* exit?

1999-01-19 Thread David Thorburn-Gundlach

Hi, folks --

I know, thanks to a post to the list a while ago, about '$' to write
all changes to the mailbox without requiring an exit.  I also know
that I can abandon all changes by exiting instead of quitting.

Is there any way I can abandon, or undo, all changes a la 'x' but NOT
have to exit mutt?


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Re: mutt pgp

1999-01-19 Thread David Thorburn-Gundlach

Andy --

Welcome to the Great Mutt PGP Debate, wherein the religious philosophy
of adhering to the proper RFC standards versus doing it the way it's
always been.

In short, PGP signatures and encrypted text really should, according
to RFC 2015 (IIRC), be attachments.  In even shorter, mutt folks say
"fergit those who can't hack it because they have stupid mail programs"
and Just Do It.

This topic has come up *many* times -- maybe it should be an autoreply
by a robot watching the list ;-)


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deleting collapsed threads

1999-01-19 Thread Alexander N. Benner

Hi
I hope I did not misobserve this.
When I have collased threads (like in esc-V) and I press 'd' it chooses one
mail with an arbetrary algorithem and delets it (ok, the alg. is 'take the 1st
mail' ;)
Wouldn't it be more logical that 'd' will delete the whole thread?

just binding 'd' to delete_threads is not an option since as soon as a thread
is uncollapsed (like when reading it) I want the original behavior, as I can
just press ^d when I am fed uop  with this.

Now, again, I could just press ^d in 1st place, but why should I want to
delete a single mail from a thread I have not even looked at?

Greetings

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Re: mutt pgp

1999-01-19 Thread SteelOnIce

Thanks,

I didn't know about the RFC 2015 (IIRC).
But at least I do know now that I am doing right, what (allmost) everybody else
is doing wrong :)))

Andy

On Tue, Jan 19, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote:

 Andy --
 
 Welcome to the Great Mutt PGP Debate, wherein the religious philosophy
 of adhering to the proper RFC standards versus doing it the way it's
 always been.
 
 In short, PGP signatures and encrypted text really should, according
 to RFC 2015 (IIRC), be attachments.  In even shorter, mutt folks say
 "fergit those who can't hack it because they have stupid mail programs"
 and Just Do It.
 
 This topic has come up *many* times -- maybe it should be an autoreply
 by a robot watching the list ;-)
 
 
 :-D
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 (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
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 http://www.poboxes.com/davidtg/
 Note: If poboxes.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh*
 



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Re: PGP v2 to PGP v5 upgrade

1999-01-19 Thread brian moore

On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 06:08:47PM +, SteelOnIce wrote:
 Hi again...
 
 I now also upgraded my pgp version and it doesn't really seem to work with mutt 
anymore...
 I set "set pgp_default_version=pgp5" in my muttrc but I still can't read 
signatures...
 
 all it says is:
 [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Jan 19 18:06:03 1999) --]
 sh: v: command not found
 [-- End of PGP output --]
 
 Sorry to ask - but why???

Because PGP5 is goofy.

:set pgp_v5="/usr/local/bin/pgp"

(The 'base' name of the PGP5 stuff.)

Mutt then tacks on the 'v' (to verify), 's' (to sign), etc.

 Andy...
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote:
 
  Salvo --
  
  Did you go through and make sure you get all of your commands changed
  over?  That looks like it might be a flag...
  
 
 ??? What do you mean ???
 
 --
 No Signature :))

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Re: mutt pgp

1999-01-19 Thread Joe Rhett


  What I'm getting at is that while Mutt may be doing it right, you can get
  down off your high horse and help out the people who have to be able to
  work in a backwards compatible fashion. The current PGP-Notes documentation
  scratches the surface at best. I figured it out - as I'm sure many others
  have.. but if you want to be snotty, provide better documentation first.
 
 So then, please submit a petter entry for PGP-Notes.txt. I'm sure it
 would be included at once.
 
 Or put it on a website, which could be referred to, whenever the
 question pops up.
 
If I intented to be snotty to people about it, I would certainly do that.
Since I don't intend to be snotty to people about it, I feel that those who
are riding their high horses should back up their actions.

As time permits, I am actually working on some better notes. But I'm not
being rude to people because they can't figure it out for themselves. It
took me the better part of 4 hours to get a working configuration that
could send and recieve messages in both fashions, as neccessary. And it's
pretty messy.

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ispell notification (feature suggestion)

1999-01-19 Thread Scott McDermott

Have mutt return a success message if ispell returns a 0.  Or something
like that.  Currently if ispell runs over a message and finds no errors,
there is no way of knowing that ispell ran at all.

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Re: mutt pgp

1999-01-19 Thread Daniel González Gasull

SteelOnIce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm... all I want to do is send a plain text
 message, which contains the pgp message NO
 ATACHMENTS...  

In your .muttrc:

# For generating old-style clearsigned PGP unMIMEd attachments:
macro compose f1 "Fpgp +verbose=0 -fast +clearsig=on\ny"

# For generating encrypted and signed PGP unMIMEd attachments:
macro compose f2 "Fpgp +verbose=0 -feast +clearsig=on +encrypttoself=on\ny"

For receiving email read PGP-Notes.txt and modify your
.procmailrc .  It works fine.

C u l8r.

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