Re: Charset problem ?
Jean-Sebastien Morisset ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Whenever mutt displays a thread, the arrows look like "AA" with little accents on top. I'm using iso-8859-1 which I think is the default. Oddly enough, mutt can display french characters in messages. Am I trading one for the other? Which charset should I be using to support threads? Thanks, js. it's not a problem of charset, it's font problem. Try out another font, I suggest with fixed fontsize. I'm running muttin rxvt with font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-2 -- Keso don't worry about glory PGP signature
Re: Charset problem ?
This means that your display font is lacking the line-drawing characters. You can use mutt's ascii_chars option in this case, or (probably better) look out for a different display character set. On 2000-03-20 14:31:35 -0500, Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:31:35 -0500 From: Jean-Sebastien Morisset [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Charset problem ? To: Mutt Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-followup-to: Mutt Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Whenever mutt displays a thread, the arrows look like "AA" with little accents on top. I'm using iso-8859-1 which I think is the default. Oddly enough, mutt can display french characters in messages. Am I trading one for the other? Which charset should I be using to support threads? Thanks, js. -- Jean-Sebastien Morisset, Sr. UNIX Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reseau d'informations scientifiques du Quebec (RISQ) inc. This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot! -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.1.8 is out
Hi! On Son, Mär 12, 2000 at 10:54:45 -0500, David T-G wrote it into the standard distribution. While mutt *does* do pretty darned much everything, and well, and fast, and so on, there is a constant battle against code bloat and creeping featurism. Since Hm, you think so? Some patches are enabled via configure, others via muttrc. I don't think that it would be too much featurism. But of course it *is* no problem to apply the patches from hand. That doesn't answer the question, how mutt handles japanese mails now. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan SeitzE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/pgp.html | PGP signature
Help with Multiple Email Addresses
Hi there... I'm new to Mutt (and yes, I'm using Pine to send this; I'm won't be using Mutt fully until I get this figured out! :) ), and I'm having trouble with one particular area: using multiple email addresses. Here's what I have so far: In my .muttrc, I have (among other things) the following: set nouse_domain# 'cause I'm on a dialup my_hdr From: James F. Kubecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Default email set alternates=((james|linux)@kubecki.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set reverse_name=yes So here are my questions: 1. When I receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and reply to it, I get a "From" header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? How can I change this? My understanding of the reverse_name is that it will figure out which email the message was TO, and reply appropriately. Am I mistaken? 2. When I compose a new email, it of course uses my default my_hdr to compose it unless I've got a send-hook set up for the recipient. In Pine, however, I have my email set up to prompt me (with a default) for which email should be used for the composition. With Mutt, if I'm emailing someone without a send-hook, it will always be the my_hdr From ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The only way I can see to email from a different address without a send-hook would be to turn on edit_headers and manually change the address, which seems inefficient to me. How should I handle this in Mutt? Thanks in advance! I hope I can work out these issues because I LOVE the other features of Mutt! -- James F. Kubecki The Kubecki Family Web Page: http://www.kubecki.com/
Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 07:52:00AM +0100, Byrial Jensen wrote: I would prefer to name the jump function directly instead of relying on the key binding of "1": folder-hook . 'push jump1enter' Thanks for that. I had some macros to get back to the appropriate mailbox in the mailbox screen when I exit from the index, but they involved writing to a file and reading from it. With folder hooks, they become like this: folder-hook =ttl 'macro index h c?\t":e exec jump\n4"\n'\n folder-hook =mua 'macro index h c?\t":e exec jump\n5"\n'\n I don't know why the :e exec is necessary, but it is working and if I have just :exec it doesn't work. I couldn't get it working with the angle bracket notation. -- Greg Matheson Practitioners just do it. Reflective Chinmin College, Taiwan practitioners just think they did it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 03:39:20PM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Not really an option, but a supported method would be to set up a % folder hook in your .muttrc, which matches all folders: % % folder-hook . 'push "1enter"' If Aleksey meant to start with the "oldest" new message, then use folder-hook . 'push "1\nnext-new"' This is all I could come up with, too, but it's IMHO a kludge. I vaguely remember to have seen code to suppress screen updates while executing macros. Maybe the case of a fresh opened mailbox had been forgotten? It's in the source ... Gero
Help with Multiple Email Addresses (fwd)
Sorry, I was having problems with Postfix, so this never got to the list. The problems are fixed now (I hope... Guess I'll find out soon enough.) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:52:18 -0500 (EST) From: James F. Kubecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Help with Multiple Email Addresses Hi there... I'm new to Mutt (and yes, I'm using Pine to send this; I'm won't be using Mutt fully until I get this figured out! :) ), and I'm having trouble with one particular area: using multiple email addresses. Here's what I have so far: In my .muttrc, I have (among other things) the following: set nouse_domain# 'cause I'm on a dialup my_hdr From: James F. Kubecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Default email set alternates=((james|linux)@kubecki.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set reverse_name=yes So here are my questions: 1. When I receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and reply to it, I get a "From" header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? How can I change this? My understanding of the reverse_name is that it will figure out which email the message was TO, and reply appropriately. Am I mistaken? 2. When I compose a new email, it of course uses my default my_hdr to compose it unless I've got a send-hook set up for the recipient. In Pine, however, I have my email set up to prompt me (with a default) for which email should be used for the composition. With Mutt, if I'm emailing someone without a send-hook, it will always be the my_hdr From ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The only way I can see to email from a different address without a send-hook would be to turn on edit_headers and manually change the address, which seems inefficient to me. How should I handle this in Mutt? Thanks in advance! I hope I can work out these issues because I LOVE the other features of Mutt! -- James F. Kubecki The Kubecki Family Web Page: http://www.kubecki.com/
Sender: vs From:
LISTSERV appears to prefer Sender: to From: (incorrectly?). My From: is always set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a forwarding service) and Sender: varies as I send mail from different machines. As a result, I can't seem to subscribe myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to a LISTSERV mailing list (moreover, if I succeeded, I suspect LISTSERV would not accept my messages to the list for the same reason) - LISTSERV subscribes mellon@[specific machine] instead. It appears that mutt, rather than sendmail, is inserting Sender: lines -- messages sent with mail(1) do not exhibit them. When I try to hardcode Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via my_hdr command, mutt appears to ignore it. Help? I find it unlikely that I would be the first to stumble upon this problem, and so I apologize if this is a known question answered elsewhere. -- Anatoly Vorobey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pobox.com/~mellon/ "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" - G.K.Chesterton
Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 01:45:53PM +0100, Gero Treuner wrote: On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 03:39:20PM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Not really an option, but a supported method would be to set up a % folder hook in your .muttrc, which matches all folders: % % folder-hook . 'push "1enter"' If Aleksey meant to start with the "oldest" new message, then use folder-hook . 'push "1\nnext-new"' Nope, I meant to start with the oldest message, period. I'm clearing a backlog. ;) Yours fondly, -at
Re: mutt can't find his help :-/
Gero Treuner wrote at Die.03/21/00-10:35:32Uhr: Hi! On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:58:47PM +0100, Clemens Wohld wrote: ## Show TXT-documentation when pressing F1: macro generic f1 "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" \ "Show Mutt documentation" This looks ok. I know :( Thats why i dont know what i have for an problem :( OK, i can make a link to /usr/doc/packages/mutt (i have do this:) but i think strong that are existing some other rc-file. Not in my ~/.muttrc, there are only two macros to show help. In /usr/doc/packages/mutt is nothing anymore. Only an link call's mutt.changes. But in my old .muttrc (mutt-9.6i-rpm) i have set the html-help. This is also anywhere in a configfile, cause whenn i want to change this, mutt find (looks in ~/.mutt/...there are my source-files) it also not. Whenn i copy the files back to the old place (~/.mutt/*) is everything OK. Thats looks like an other rc-file. But where?? Always he want to look in /usr/doc/packages. Somebody can help me? But please i'm not an english-crack, write "light-english", don't know what it is...but see me ;-)) Maybe there are old configuration files left, Muttrc for example - except the deinstallation of the old mutt failed, then this could be call instead of the new one. Where?? Not in my own .muttrc-settings. Where i can find some? $ find / -name .muttrc (or MUTTRC) ...can't find some :( The rpm is uninstall, shure. (For safety again in German language: Vom alten Mutt sind wohl noch Konfigurationsdateien uebrig, z. B. das Muttrc - ausser die Deinstallation des alten hat nicht funktioniert, in diesem Fall koennte sogar das alte Programm statt des neuen aufgerufen werden. :) (sorry, but will anser in german) Das gut ;-) Ich hab nochmal alles abgesucht. Wo sollte/könnte ich denn noch was von dem rpm-mutt finden?? /usr/doc/packages/mutt ist leer. mit find läßt sich auch nichts finden. Bin aber 100% sicher (weil es die Pfade der Vorgängerversion sind) das diese Konfig mein altes mutt getragen hat! Greetings, Clemens -- Reg. Linux-user # 134173 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: www.ndh.net/home/wohld/index.html
Re: mutt can't find his help :-/
Wilhelm Wienemann wrote at Die.03/21/00-10:35:32Uhr: Was the mutt-1.0pre2i which you used to update a source or a binary-package (*.i386.rpm)? binary-package. This mutt-version before was an i386.rpm. There are now some problems with the F1/ F2 to show help. I have set in my .muttrc the path to tjhe help! like this: ...and there could you find the manual, isn't it? Right! I can set every path and pusch the helpfile to this place, but Mutt dont will find. Ævery time mutt look's at /usr/doc/packages/mutt. This is the place for an rpm, but not for an binary :-/ [...] Wanna be used /usr/local/doc/mutt/html/manual.html. No chance,..always mutt can't find :-/ But mutt dont find this :-/ Always he want to look in /usr/doc/packages. That's the default directory for documents in the S.u.S.E. RPM-database. If you will make your own *.i386.rpm Package from the source in a S.u.S.E. System it will use this default directory. I know this ;-) Thats why can't understand! This mutt i have comp. by myself. What an should i do? Maybe you can make a symbolic link to the directory. Yes, for shure. I have make this. But wanna know what's happen,) Info again: I have an SuSE 6.2, Kernel 2.2.14. Greetings, Clemens -- Reg. Linux-user # 134173 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: www.ndh.net/home/wohld/index.html
Re: Sender: vs From:
Anatoly Vorobey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LISTSERV appears to prefer Sender: to From: (incorrectly?). My From: is always set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a forwarding service) and Sender: varies as I send mail from different machines. As a result, I can't seem to subscribe myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to a LISTSERV mailing list (moreover, if I succeeded, I suspect LISTSERV would not accept my messages to the list for the same reason) - LISTSERV subscribes mellon@[specific machine] instead. It appears that mutt, rather than sendmail, is inserting Sender: lines -- messages sent with mail(1) do not exhibit them. When I try to hardcode Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via my_hdr command, mutt appears to ignore it. I would guess that it probably is sendmail that is rewriting the Sender field, but the sure way to find out is to set sendmail=/tmp/makelog, where /tmp/makelog is a script something like: #!/bin/sh echo $* /tmp/sendlog cat - /tmp/sendlog Then you might be able to solve the problem by adding arguments to sendmail, such as "-f user@hostname". Edmund
NNTP
Hey, I stopped by the channel and no one was there, so I'm going to ask here. The thing that has been keeping me from switching from pine is that I like pine's merged interface where I only have to use one program with one set of keybindings to do mail or nntp. Is there somewhere I should look? I'd strongly prefer one program, so that I don't have to change my habits, my outgoing mail is merged into the same sent-mail folders. Any advice? -james
Pgp Keyserver at Clug
I keep posting at Clug, but nothing is showing up, and hoping this gets through to anyone. The situtation is this: I used to use pgp5, but because of lack of documentation and "appropriate and/or common usage," according to my research, I found that it wasn't for me. I submitted my key to the keyserver, nonetheless, and moved on with things. Jetting ahead a few monthsI now use gnupg regularly and am wanting to revoke my previous key from the clug key server, but I am having problems doing this. I am either getting errors that it doesn't exist, or that a secret key can't be found. I have my original pgp package with my keyrings, but I believe pgp would find if I did have my secret key. I probably don't. How do I go about revoking my previous pgp signature and continuing to use my current gnupg that is working quiet nicely with mutt Any help is appreciated. /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always beenin your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private!
Re: Help with Multiple Email Addresses
James F. Kubecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 18 Mar 2000: I'm new to Mutt (and yes, I'm using Pine to send this; I'm won't be using Mutt fully until I get this figured out! :) ), Well, since I can't check the headers, which Mutt version are you using? This is significant because the options available to you will vary depending on that. 1.When I receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and reply to it, I get a "From" header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? Because the "my_hdr From:" overrides $reverse_name. This is a known issue, although I'm not sure if it's documented (or where, if it is)... How can I change this? If you want to use $reverse_name, you'll have to stop using "my_hdr From:", because it's not compatible with $reverse_name. There's still a couple of ways to have different From addresses set in send-hooks. If you're using 1.0 (or 1.0.1), you can change the default setting with the variables $realname, $hostname, $use_domain. With these it's not possible to change the "username" portion however. If that's not enough for you, the developement versions (1.1.x) also have a new variable $from (an address) which works similarly to "my_hdr From:", with the exception that $reverse_name overrides it instead. My understanding of the reverse_name is that it will figure out which email the message was TO, and reply appropriately. Am I mistaken? No, your understanding is correct. The only way I can see to email from a different address without a send-hook would be to turn on edit_headers and manually change the address, which seems inefficient to me. How should I handle this in Mutt? You can also use esc-f to edit the From header from the compose menu. (And you're of course free to bind that function to another key, if esc-f is not comfortable for you.) There is no support for otherwise changing the From: header interactively, apart from edit-headers. Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / fortune: cannot execute. Out of cookies.
Re: Help with Multiple Email Addresses
At 23:52 -0500 18 Mar 2000, "James F. Kubecki" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set nouse_domain # 'cause I'm on a dialup my_hdr From: James F. Kubecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Default email set alternates=((james|linux)@kubecki.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) set reverse_name=yes So here are my questions: 1.When I receive email at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and reply to it, I get a "From" header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? How can I change this? My understanding of the reverse_name is that it will figure out which email the message was TO, and reply appropriately. Am I mistaken? The 'my_hdr From:' command is overriding the effect of reverse name. If you're using a 1.1.x version, you can set the 'from' variable to the address you want to be the default instead of using my_hdr. someone without a send-hook, it will always be the my_hdr From ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The only way I can see to email from a different address without a send-hook would be to turn on edit_headers and manually change the address, which seems inefficient to me. How should I handle this in Mutt? You can use the edit-from command in the send menu. The default binding is EscF . -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ If you consistently take an antagonistic approach, however, people are going to start thinking you're from New York. :-) --Larry Wall to Dan Bernstein
Re: Problem with pine (i want to use mutt)
Michael Thies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 21 Mar 2000: But all my incoming mails are going to $HOME/INBOX in pine-format. What's "pine-format"? Doesn't Pine use standard unix mbox files? Not to /var/mail/mthies In /etc/mail/sendmail* I didn't find the point, why mails are going to INBOX. I think (I don't have any knowledge on pine and don't want to have this) the problem is to be found in pine ? Pine doesn't control the mail delivery, so nothing you can change in Pine will help. The delivery location is controlled by whatever mail delivery program is used (/bin/mail, procmail, the MTA's own, etc.) This isn't much of a problem, you don't need to change the delivery location, you just need to tell Mutt where to look for the mail. Setting the MAIL environment variable is probably the best way (before starting Mutt), but failing that, you can specify the location with the $spoolfile setting in your .muttrc. set spoolfile=~/INBOX Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / "I took an IQ test and the results were negative."
Re: Problem with pine (i want to use mutt)
At 23:08 +0100 21 Mar 2000, Michael Thies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But all my incoming mails are going to $HOME/INBOX in pine-format. Not to /var/mail/mthies Set the MAIL environment variable to the location of your inbox or put 'set spoolfile="$HOME/INBOX"' in your .muttrc file. As far as I know, there is no such thing as "pine-format". In /etc/mail/sendmail* I didn't find the point, why mails are going to INBOX. sendmail is an MTA (message transfer agent), so it doesn't determine where messages get delivered, that's the MDA's (message delivery agent) job. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ [A computer is] like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. -- Joseph Campbell
Re: NNTP
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:55:38PM -0500, James O'Kane wrote: Hey, I stopped by the channel and no one was there, so I'm going to ask here. The thing that has been keeping me from switching from pine is that I like pine's merged interface where I only have to use one program with one set of keybindings to do mail or nntp. Is there somewhere I should look? I'd strongly prefer one program, so that I don't have to change my habits, my outgoing mail is merged into the same sent-mail folders. Any advice? -james Dear James, I'm using a hacked paper_carrier http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/SOFTWARE/ to deliver news to my mail spool; haven't tried to figure out yet how to get it so I can reply to messages and it gets posted on Usenet. Yours, -at
Re: Problem with pine (i want to use mutt)
Hi! On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 11:08:41PM +0100, Michael Thies wrote: at my new job, I have an account on a slowlaris-machine. the one and only mua is pine *argh* Quoting your header: Organization: IT Services - Thies It's not a new job in your own company, isn't it? But all my incoming mails are going to $HOME/INBOX in pine-format. Check the spoolfile configuration variable. Pine uses mbox format AFAIK, so there should be no problem. In /etc/mail/sendmail* I didn't find the point, why mails are going to INBOX. A wild guess: Is there an IMAP server (possibly from the University of Washington :-) pushing your mail there? Gero
Return Receipt?
A quick one...can mutt ask for a return receipt? John
Gnupg Keyserver
what is the syntax for specifying a keyserver in the options file i want to access http:///clug.chicago.il.us:11371 and have entered it this way: http:///clug.chicago.il.us:11371 clug.chicago.il.us:11371 clug.chicago.il.us but no luck, thus far -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always beenin your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! PGP signature
Re: Problem with pine (i want to use mutt)
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 11:08:41PM +0100, Michael Thies wrote: But all my incoming mails are going to $HOME/INBOX in pine-format. Not to /var/mail/mthies Others have told you how to get mutt to read mail from an arbitrary location, so I won't cover that here, but I felt the need to clear something up that's implied by the above statement. Pine, mutt, elm, etc are nothing more than mail -readers-. They have nothing to do with where or -how- mail is delivered. As readers, you can tell them to archive messages in different files, obviously, but with regards to the initial delivery method, location, and form, this has nothing to do with the mail reader (mutt, pine, elm, etc) but is instead handled by processes such as sendmail or qmail. In other words, there's no such thing as 'pine-format' when it comes to freshly delivered mail. - Myrddin -- ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan --
