Re: sometimes 'L' works for me. sometimes it doesn't.

2000-10-04 Thread raf

Bob Bell wrote:

 I don't believe subscribe matches against the expansion of aliases
 as you appear to be relying on.  Instead, subscribe matches on a
 pattern.  When you specify vim, that pattern is matched by [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 but muttusers does not match [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Try altering your
 subscribe command to look more like the actual email address, instead of
 the alias name.

thanks. replacing the aliases in the subscribe list with the real addresses
fixes the problem but i think that's really wierd. "vim" would match anything
starting with vim whether you've stated that it was a mailing list or not.
mutt must be relying on the user only typing L when the user knows it's a
mailing list :) i suppose that's fair enough but flaky. i seem to remember the
doco for subscribe saying that it is used to specify the mailing lists to which
you are subscribed. to me, that means the actual addresses of mailing lists
or aliases for those addresses, not regular expressions that match at least
those addresses.

thanks again,
raf




Re: sometimes 'L' works for me. sometimes it doesn't.

2000-10-04 Thread raf

Dave Pearson wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 10:50:11PM +1100, raf wrote:
 
  sometimes the 'L' command works for me. sometimes it doesn't. does anyone
  know how i can solve this? (mutt version = 1.2.5)
 
 Write your subscribe config so that it actually lists the lists. For more
 details see section 3.9 of the mutt manual.

thanks. i read that section again and this time i paid attention to it :)

raf




Re: mutt/sendmail mailing list problem

2000-10-04 Thread Peter Jaques

it does; i used to get all the "x-authentication-warning"s, till i changed
my sendmail.cf.  sendmail IS honoring the -f; it correctly sets the
"From " header. it just doesn't set "Return-path" right.

peter

On  3 Oct 00,  2:23PM, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
 If you're passing -f to sendmail (either manually or via $envelop_from),
 and sendmail isn't honoring it, I'd suggest you check your sendmail
 configuration to make sure it allows users to make use of -f.  I don't know
 what you'd check, I don't use sendmail.

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Re: mutt/sendmail mailing list problem

2000-10-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 04 Oct 2000:
 it does; i used to get all the "x-authentication-warning"s, till i changed
 my sendmail.cf.  sendmail IS honoring the -f; it correctly sets the
 "From " header. it just doesn't set "Return-path" right.

That doesn't make sense.  The "From " and "Return-Path" are the same
thing just in different guises, it is the envelope sender information
(which is what's specified with -f).

In mbox folder format, the return-path (evenlope sender) is recorded
in the "From " header (it's not really a header, actually, more as just
the message separator).  Some MTAs will also include the value in a
Return-Path header.

However, while the mail is in transit (after it has been sent but before
it has been processed by recipient) the envelope sender is in fact not
specified in the headers, it travels "outside" of the actual mail
message data.


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Mikko
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Re: sometimes 'L' works for me. sometimes it doesn't.

2000-10-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

raf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 04 Oct 2000:
 i seem to remember the
 doco for subscribe saying that it is used to specify the mailing lists to which
 you are subscribed. to me, that means the actual addresses of mailing lists
 or aliases for those addresses, not regular expressions that match at least
 those addresses.

It's not even a regular expression, it's just a "beginning of string"
match.

"subscribe vim" matches "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]", and so on -- anything that begins with "vim".
Because it's a simple string comparison (case-insensitive), you
*can* also specify the full address, if you want.


Regards,
Mikko
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new operator for (~t | ~c)

2000-10-04 Thread the/eXtreme

I have a lot of save-hooks that look like this one:

save-hook '(~t ^mutt-users | ~c ^mutt-users)' =mutt

and I wondered if anyone else thought a new operator
like `~tc' might be convenient, e.g.:

save-hook '~tc ^mutt-users' =mutt



Re: new operator for (~t | ~c)

2000-10-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

the/eXtreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 04 Oct 2000:
 I have a lot of save-hooks that look like this one:
 
 save-hook '(~t ^mutt-users | ~c ^mutt-users)' =mutt
 
 and I wondered if anyone else thought a new operator
 like `~tc' might be convenient, e.g.:
 
 save-hook '~tc ^mutt-users' =mutt

I don't know who it was, but yes someone else has already thought of
this.  It's called ~C.


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Re: new operator for (~t | ~c)

2000-10-04 Thread Roland Rosenfeld

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000, the/eXtreme wrote:

 I have a lot of save-hooks that look like this one:
 
 save-hook '(~t ^mutt-users | ~c ^mutt-users)' =mutt
 
 and I wondered if anyone else thought a new operator
 like `~tc' might be convenient, e.g.:
 
 save-hook '~tc ^mutt-users' =mutt

set default_hook="~t %s | ~c %s"
save-hook ^mutt-users =mutt

For more info have a look at section "6.3.28. default_hook" in the
manual.

Tscho

Roland

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Re: mutt/sendmail mailing list problem

2000-10-04 Thread Claus Assmann

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000, Peter Jaques wrote:
 it does; i used to get all the "x-authentication-warning"s, till i changed
 my sendmail.cf.  sendmail IS honoring the -f; it correctly sets the
 "From " header. it just doesn't set "Return-path" right.

This is somewhat off-topic for mutt...

The Return-Path: header is set by the receiving MTA (based on the
envelope sender). You can't set the former (but the latter). If
your e-mail address is rewritten (masquerading, genericstable,
CNAME, ...), then the receiving system may use a different address
then the one you specified with -f.



Re: lock count exceeded

2000-10-04 Thread Jeremy Blosser

Michael Atighetchi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 I'm using mutt 1.2.5i under both cygwin and linux.
 I've set up my mail folder to reside on a FAT16 partition (to be used by
 mutt in cygwin). I mount the partition under Linux with VFAT and link
 them symbolically to /var/spool/mail.
 
 I understand there is a locking problem - and it's probably due to VFAT.
 
 Is there a way around? 

Switch to Maildir?

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Re: Tagging a Deleted file.

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Elkins

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 05:01:19PM +0200, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
 I found out (when I tagged and printed a big message I didn't wont by
 mistake) that "t" when tags a file then moves to the following file even
 if it's marked for Delete, unlike "j" or DownArrow.
 
 Is this a bug, a feature, or something you set up in muttrc, but I couldn't
 find?

It's done that way so that you can tag a bunch of deleted messages and then
tag-undelete them.  Might be worth adding a $tag_skips_deleted boolean var
since this seems to come up quite often.

me

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international characters

2000-10-04 Thread Marcelo C . Martinelli

I am trying to get mutt to display Portuguese accented characters for
a while and i am stuck.

Can anyone help me? I use a standard US keyboard with the emacs2
character map provide in the Slackware 7.1 install.

Thanks!

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Re: cmutt xmutt... where?

2000-10-04 Thread Jeff Howie

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 08:39:32PM +0200, Jan Houtsma wrote:
 Had them on a previous system. Now with this RH7.0 machine i can't
 find them anymore. Where can i download these files?

I don't have them either. Waht exactly is xmutt, etc...



Re: cmutt xmutt... where?

2000-10-04 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-10-05 00:22:40 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

  [suresh@mjollnir] ~$ which mutt
  /usr/bin/mutt
  [suresh@mjollnir] ~$ which cmutt
  /usr/bin/cmutt
  [suresh@mjollnir] ~$ which xmutt
  /usr/bin/xmutt

What on earth are cmutt and xmutt supposed to be?

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Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.

2000-10-04 Thread Timothy Grant

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:47:35AM -0400, Bob Bell wrote:
 Wouldn't something like this work and be simpler?
 
 set signature='(cat .signature  fortune -s) |'

I've been playing around with some stuff to put my uptime in my signature.
You can see that it works from the sig below.

I use the above format to do this

set signature='(buildsig)|'

Problem is that I have two signatures, the formal one below, and an informal
one. So I modified my script to take an argument depending on the sigfile I
want to use.

send-hook exceptionalminds.com set signature='(buildsig .siginformal)|'

This doesn't work. and mutt spits up over it.

How do I pass an argument to a script in my .muttrc?

Thanks.

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Red Hat Certified Engineer  (503) 246-3630
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Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.

2000-10-04 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:32:30PM -0700, Timothy Grant wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:47:35AM -0400, Bob Bell wrote:
  Wouldn't something like this work and be simpler?
  
  set signature='(cat .signature  fortune -s) |'
 
 I've been playing around with some stuff to put my uptime in my signature.
 You can see that it works from the sig below.
 
 I use the above format to do this
 
 set signature='(buildsig)|'
 
 Problem is that I have two signatures, the formal one below, and an informal
 one. So I modified my script to take an argument depending on the sigfile I
 want to use.
 
 send-hook exceptionalminds.com set signature='(buildsig .siginformal)|'
 
 This doesn't work. and mutt spits up over it.
 
 How do I pass an argument to a script in my .muttrc?

I don't think you do.

What I do is this: I have a perl script which does what I want: so much
time to a certain event (which I am not using here). I customize it by
providing different input times as one input string and an event input
string string that describes what will happen x days, etc from now.

I provide the time and event to the perl script in a shell script, very
brain dead. I have a default send-hook to set up my defaul signature file,
below. Then I have send hooks for various lists and/or people which change
the signature file to execute the appropriate script.

So, where until.pl is the perl script, this is the shell script I use for
the Wyoming Libertarian Party, polls.sh:


# -*- shell-script -*-
# Time-stamp: 2000-10-03 12:23:59 ccurley
until.pl "The Wyoming Libertarian Party, http://www.geocities.com/wyolp/

Vote early and vote often!
 -- W.C. Fields
privacy
The polls open " "7:00 Nov 7th 2000"



And here are some appropriate lines from my .muttrc:

send-hook . set signature=~/.signatures/.signature
send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.signatures/polls.sh|; \
   my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; unset pgp_autosign"
send-hook my sweetie's email address set signature=~/.signatures/sweetie.sh|

The result for the Wyoming LP list is:

 
-- C^2
 
The Wyoming Libertarian Party, http://www.geocities.com/wyolp/
 
Vote early and vote often!
 -- W.C. Fields
 
The polls open 1 month, 2 days, 14 hours, 39 minutes, 38 seconds from now.




Note that mutt provides the signature delimiter, "-- ".


You would no doubt be able to simplify this considerably, but that should
give you a good start.

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Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.

2000-10-04 Thread Timothy Grant

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:25:45PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
  
  How do I pass an argument to a script in my .muttrc?
 
 I don't think you do.
 
 What I do is this: I have a perl script which does what I want: so much
 time to a certain event (which I am not using here). I customize it by
 providing different input times as one input string and an event input
 string string that describes what will happen x days, etc from now.
 
 I provide the time and event to the perl script in a shell script, very
 brain dead. I have a default send-hook to set up my defaul signature file,
 below. Then I have send hooks for various lists and/or people which change
 the signature file to execute the appropriate script.
 
 So, where until.pl is the perl script, this is the shell script I use for
 the Wyoming Libertarian Party, polls.sh:
 
 
 # -*- shell-script -*-
 # Time-stamp: 2000-10-03 12:23:59 ccurley
 until.pl "The Wyoming Libertarian Party, http://www.geocities.com/wyolp/
 
 Vote early and vote often!
  -- W.C. Fields
 privacy
 The polls open " "7:00 Nov 7th 2000"
 
 
 
 And here are some appropriate lines from my .muttrc:
 
 send-hook . set signature=~/.signatures/.signature
 send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.signatures/polls.sh|; \
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; unset pgp_autosign"
 send-hook my sweetie's email address set signature=~/.signatures/sweetie.sh|
 
 The result for the Wyoming LP list is:
 
  
 -- C^2
  
 The Wyoming Libertarian Party, http://www.geocities.com/wyolp/
  
 Vote early and vote often!
  -- W.C. Fields
  
 The polls open 1 month, 2 days, 14 hours, 39 minutes, 38 seconds from now.

So, when I thought I might have to create a separate script for each sig I
wasn't wrong!

That's too bad, but it has the advantage of being easy to implement!

Thanks for the response!


-- 
Stand Fast,
tjg.

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Red Hat Certified Engineer  (503) 246-3630
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Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.

2000-10-04 Thread Benjamin Korvemaker

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:25:45PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:32:30PM -0700, Timothy Grant wrote:
[snip]
  Problem is that I have two signatures, the formal one below, and an informal
  one. So I modified my script to take an argument depending on the sigfile I
  want to use.
  
  send-hook exceptionalminds.com set signature='(buildsig .siginformal)|'
  
  This doesn't work. and mutt spits up over it.
  
  How do I pass an argument to a script in my .muttrc?
 
 I don't think you do.
[snip]

What about:

send-hook exceptionalminds.com 'set signature="(buildsig .siginformal)|"'

(note the nesting of double quotes in single quotes)

Ben
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Send hook question

2000-10-04 Thread Hal Burgiss

Should the below not work? I could swear it used to ;) Recently even.
Despite much playing with this, I cannot get the header to handle the
exceptions.


unset use_from
send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook redhat-list 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'


Mutt 1.2i (2000-05-09)
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System: Linux 2.2.16pre3 [using slang 10202]

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Re: mutt/sendmail mailing list problem

2000-10-04 Thread Peter Jaques

here are the headers from a message i sent from mutt to my other account:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Oct  4 17:06:04 2000
Received: from dnai.com (dnai.com [207.181.194.98])
by occs.cs.oberlin.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA19065
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from neptune.dnai.com (neptune.dnai.com [207.181.194.93])
by dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA50502;
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sol.A (207-172-166-28.s28.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com
[207.172.166.28])
by neptune.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97826;
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (from mugwort@localhost)
by sol.A (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28485;
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:04:08 -0700
From: Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [kl] Just wondering ...
Message-ID: 20001004170408.A28441@sol

if you see the lowest "received" header, it says (from mugwort@localhost),
 later (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). if i send a similar message from
outlook, there's no trace of the local account. This is where the problem
lies-- the remote MTA is picking "mugwort@localhost" rather than
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]". can y'all think of any way to hide the local address?
an outgoing mail filter/procmail recipe or somesuch? is that possible with
mutt?

i'm sorry if this is off-topic for mutt; but i suspect the solution will
lie in mutt's config, e.g. with some mail-out filter, if such is possible.

thanks in advance...
peter

On  4 Oct 00,  7:12AM, Claus Assmann wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 04, 2000, Peter Jaques wrote:
  it does; i used to get all the "x-authentication-warning"s, till i changed
  my sendmail.cf.  sendmail IS honoring the -f; it correctly sets the
  "From " header. it just doesn't set "Return-path" right.
 
 This is somewhat off-topic for mutt...
 
 The Return-Path: header is set by the receiving MTA (based on the
 envelope sender). You can't set the former (but the latter). If
 your e-mail address is rewritten (masquerading, genericstable,
 CNAME, ...), then the receiving system may use a different address
 then the one you specified with -f.

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Re: Send hook question

2000-10-04 Thread Harold Oga

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 07:58:13PM -0400, Hal Burgiss wrote:
Should the below not work? I could swear it used to ;) Recently even.
Despite much playing with this, I cannot get the header to handle the
exceptions.


unset use_from
send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook redhat-list 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Hi,
   I think send-hook is expecting a pattern where you have redhat-list.
Does the following work better for you?

send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook '~C redhat-list' 'my_hdr From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

-Harold
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Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.

2000-10-04 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 04 Oct 2000:
 send-hook exceptionalminds.com set signature='(buildsig .siginformal)|'
 This doesn't work. and mutt spits up over it.
 
 How do I pass an argument to a script in my .muttrc?

I'm using

  signature="randsig.sh ~/.sig-body|"

currently, and it works just fine.  I think you have a quoting issue
with the send-hook using the set signature command, like someone else
posted.  I use various send-hooks to change my signature, but they all
take the form of "source .mutt/profile-whatever" so I can just edit
the profile files, and not have to worry about quoting all the time.
Also worth noting is that you don't need the ()'s unless you want the
output of more than one command grouped together.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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