Re: About emacs, about quoting text, about writing message.

2001-07-18 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2001-07-17 18:14:01 +0200, Jens Paulus wrote:

3.) Suppose I'm in the index and my position indication arrow is 
marking an email from somebody I want to write an email to. I 
don't want to hit 'r' because I don't want to _reply_ to this 
email. One solution would be:

Why not reply to that person?  Don't you want the r mark on the 
index, or do you just want to start a new thread?  In the latter 
case, you can set the edit_hdrs variable and remove the In-Reply-To 
header when editing.  This will have the effect of removing 
References, too.

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From: is blank

2001-07-18 Thread James L. Gale

Mutt users,

On my computer at work (mutt 1.2.5, solaris), whenever I send
a message, mutt fills in the From header with my name and
my email address.  I don't think I ever did anything to
configure this, but I like it. 

On my home computer (mutt 1.3.x, debian), whenever I send a
message, the ``From'' header is empty.  When I send the
message the From field is eventually filled in by something,
perhaps the local MTA.  However, this missing From header
can confuse mutt in a number of ways such as when I reply
to my own messages.

What can I do to coax mutt to fill out this information?  It
seems like it should be automatic.  Is there likely a
problem outside of mutt?

Thanks for the help,
James



Re: From: is blank

2001-07-18 Thread James L. Gale

Mutt users,

Problem fixed.

I found the system muttrc (I looked for /etc/mutt* and
couldn't find it at first.) and I see that Debian disables
filling in the header.  I wonder why they did that?  Oh
well, I've solved the problem now.

Even though you all didn't get to help me, I can feel that
you would have if I had given you the chance.  Thanks.

James Gale




Re: Newbie question

2001-07-18 Thread Micha Berdichevsky

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Fox Mulder wrote:
 thanks for the file. i tried it, but still no help. I still dont get the N in the 
folder view, and dont get the Inc field in the status bar. also, i am still getting 
that problem with the arrows in threads.

There are problems with mutt recognizing new mail on the mbox format.
I suggest considering moving your mailboxes to the 'maildir' format.
It's easy and mutt works well with it. Also procmail supports it.

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Re[2]: mail sorting #2

2001-07-18 Thread Lukasz Zamel

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, Christoph Maurer wrote:
 Am Die, 17 Jul 2001, schrieb Lukasz Zamel:
 
  Procmail is really cool. I've downloaded a faq and it's not fo
  hard to configure. But still I have a small problem. I'm getting
  'Error writing to ...' even if I set a+rw to those mailboxes.
 
 Did you set your MAILDIR Variable korrekt (normally $HOME/Mail) in
 your procmailrc.

Thanks, that was the problem! I simply didn't set MAILDIR correctly.
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Keywords? Filter-on-condition-when-sending?

2001-07-18 Thread Magnus Bodin


Two questions:
==

1.

Is there anyway of configuring WHAT headerfields that are asked for before
entering edit-mode? 

Default seems to be 'To:' and 'Subject:'.

I'd like to set 'Keywords:' as well.

2. How do I hook in a program to filter with on send?
   OK. The easiest way may be to set sendmail to a wrapperscript that
   does everything and then piping, but is there any other way? E.g. when 
   you mail to a certain mailadress?

 
/magnus

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Re: Keywords? Filter-on-condition-when-sending?

2001-07-18 Thread Christoph Maurer

Am Mit, 18 Jul 2001, schrieb Magnus Bodin:

 Is there anyway of configuring WHAT headerfields that are asked for before
 entering edit-mode? 
 
 Default seems to be 'To:' and 'Subject:'.
 
 I'd like to set 'Keywords:' as well.

You can configure mutt to also ask for Cc: and Bcc: by setting askcc
or askbcc respectively.

But I think any other Headers can only be set either with hooks or
by setting the edit_headers variable and editing them in your
editor.

Christoph 

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Re: About emacs, about quoting text, about writing message.

2001-07-18 Thread Sam Roberts

Quoting Jens Paulus [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote:
 3.) Suppose I'm in the index and my position indication arrow is marking
 an email from somebody I want to write an email to. I don't want to hit
 'r' because I don't want to _reply_ to this email. One solution would
 be:

What I do is have edit_headers set in my muttrc.

Then I do a reply, but when I get popped into vim, I delete
the references line (that makes it not a reply) and change
the subject to whatever I want.

Sam

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.17, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Louis LeBlanc [mutt-users] 17/07/01 23:51 -0400: 
  Hey all.  I am trying to get the vvv port for FreeBSD built, but it
  keeps dying on some wchar code.  Any ideas what the hangup is there?
  
 I personally had no problems.  However, there is a note which says vvv can't
 coexist with Roland's compressed folders patch in that port.  Did you enable
 both?

I'm not sure what that note's about, and I'm only assuming that vvv is
the nntp patch (vs the other patches on his site), but I'm using VVV's
nntp with the compressed folders patch.

I don't think I understand the meaning of a *BSD port at all.

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

David Champion [18/07/01 09:04 -0500]:
   Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I personally had no problems.  However, there is a note which says vvv can't
  coexist with Roland's compressed folders patch in that port.  Did you enable
  both?
 
 I'm not sure what that note's about, and I'm only assuming that vvv is
 the nntp patch (vs the other patches on his site), but I'm using VVV's
 nntp with the compressed folders patch.
 I don't think I understand the meaning of a *BSD port at all.
 
Sorry.  Ports are a freebsd feature ... packages which download the source
and compile as per a readymade makefile, after applying certain other
patches.

quoting from /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel/Makefile (for mutt 1.3.19)

 .if defined(WITH_VVV_PATCHES)  defined(WITH_COMPRESSED_FOLDERS)
 .error WITH_VVV_PATCHES and WITH_COMPRESSED_FOLDERS cannot be used together
 .endif

-suresh



mutt 1.2.5 and noatime filesystems

2001-07-18 Thread Matteo


Hi,
 
 
 
I'm using mutt 1.2.5 on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE box.
 
Today I've mounted /var partition with options noatime.
I rebooted, but later mutt doesn't work. Each time that
I exit from a Mailbox and press TAB+TAB to check for new messages,
mutt notifies that there are new messages in mailboxes that
I've check before. Then I enter in one of this mailboxes, but
there aren't new mex.
I've remounted /var without noatime and mutt works fine...
 
Any idea??
 
 
Sorry  if my English is very poor...





xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Andre Wyrwa

Hello,

I have the problem of having a non-colored mutt, when starting it in
xterm. $TERM is xterm.
When I change $TERM to linux or xterm-color mutt will start with
colors.
So I guess it has something to do with terminfo. Unfortunately I don't
know a lot about it. On my SuSE-System mutt starts colored within
xterm even with $TERM=xterm, so I guess they changed properties of the
xterm-terminfo-file or mutt is looking for something else to determine
if it should use colors or not.

So, can someone help me with this?
How can I tell xterm to use xterm-color instead of xterm terminfo
without having to set $TERM manually?

André.



Re: mutt 1.2.5 and noatime filesystems

2001-07-18 Thread Mr. Wade

Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm using mutt 1.2.5 on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE box.
  
 Today I've mounted /var partition with options noatime.  I
 rebooted, but later mutt doesn't work. Each time that I exit
 from a Mailbox and press TAB+TAB to check for new messages,
 mutt notifies that there are new messages in mailboxes that
 I've check before. Then I enter in one of this mailboxes, but
 there aren't new mex.
 I've remounted /var without noatime and mutt works fine...

As I understand it, Mutt detects new mail by comparing the
mailbox's last modification time to the last access time.  If you
mount the partition with noatime, you've eliminated the access
time, so how can you expect Mutt to detect new mail properly? 

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popping mail into an imap mailbox

2001-07-18 Thread Nate Johnston

All,

I connect to my mailboxes over an imap/ssl connection.  I also have one
mailbox that I connect to over pop.  I have been using Mutt's pop
functionality to grab the pop messages and then upload them into the
imap mailbox.  

The problem is that when I hit 'G' to pop the messages, they are
downloaded successfully, then I see them being uploaded to the imap
folder, but I do not see them displayed in mutt's view of the folder.  I
have to leave the folder and then return to it for the messages to be
displayed.  When I do they have the 'O' unread message flag.

I have tried hitting the '$' key, hoping it would be a bidirectional
sync, not just a sync local to remote.  It hasn't worked.  Is there a
key or configuration parameter that will allow me to see the messages I
pop-then-upload without having to leave the folder?

Here is the imap section of my .muttrc:

set imap_user=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
unset   imap_passive
unset   imap_list_subscribed
set imap_servernoise
unset   imap_force_ssl

And here is the config fragment that I have a folder-hook execute when I
go to the folder in question:

set pop_host=pop.business.earthlink.net
set pop_user=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set spoolfile==work.ssn

TIA

--N.

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Andre Wyrwa wrote:

 Hello,

 I have the problem of having a non-colored mutt, when starting it in
 xterm. $TERM is xterm.
 When I change $TERM to linux or xterm-color mutt will start with
 colors.
 So I guess it has something to do with terminfo. Unfortunately I don't
 know a lot about it. On my SuSE-System mutt starts colored within

a good place to start is www.google.com (search for xterm)

as I point out 2-3 times a week, xterm-color is incorrect for XFree86
xterm, ditto linux.

 xterm even with $TERM=xterm, so I guess they changed properties of the
 xterm-terminfo-file or mutt is looking for something else to determine
 if it should use colors or not.

 So, can someone help me with this?
 How can I tell xterm to use xterm-color instead of xterm terminfo
 without having to set $TERM manually?

see the man-page.

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Re: mutt 1.2.5 and noatime filesystems

2001-07-18 Thread Dave Pearson

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:26:16PM +0200, Matteo wrote:

 Today I've mounted /var partition with options noatime.
 I rebooted, but later mutt doesn't work. Each time that
 I exit from a Mailbox and press TAB+TAB to check for new messages,
 mutt notifies that there are new messages in mailboxes that
 I've check before. Then I enter in one of this mailboxes, but
 there aren't new mex.
 I've remounted /var without noatime and mutt works fine...
  
 Any idea??

See the first Note: in section 3.11 of the mutt manual. I'd have thought
that by removing support for atime you're experiencing a variation on the
problem that's spoken about there (actually the reverse problem if you think
about it).

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Louis LeBlanc

I simply untarred his port directory into my /usr/ports/mail/ dir and
tried a make.  On Linux, all I had to do was drop the spec file into
the SPEC dir and rpm -ba mutt.spec.  I haven't checked the port setup
because I am still new to FreeBSD and am not quite familiar with the
details therin.

Notice that the vvv distribution directory has several patches?  He is
also kind enough to provide a mutt.spec file for building rpms and a
port.1.3.19.tgz file, which is typically unzipped into the mail port
directory and built for install - FreeBSDs version of package
management for those Linux only dudes out there.  It basically creates
a package on the fly and installs it.  Pretty clean as far as I can
tell so far.

Anyway, I am getting some problems in the regex.c file.  something
about 'wt' being undeclared, and undeclared functions wctype - which
is actually a typedef in an included file, etc.

Anyway again, here is the real confusion:  this file is not changed by
the patches!  I built mutt-devel (distributed version of 1.3.19) and
compared the regex.c files - no difference.

Hmm.

I also noticed the makefile in the port directory was configuring
--with-regex.  Maybe that is my problem.  I'll try bagging that config
directive.

At this point, any suggestions would be quite welcome.  As long as
they are intended to help me get this build done anyway :)

Thanks all
Lou

On 07/18/01 09:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sat at the `puter and typed:
 Louis LeBlanc [mutt-users] 17/07/01 23:51 -0400: 
  Hey all.  I am trying to get the vvv port for FreeBSD built, but it
  keeps dying on some wchar code.  Any ideas what the hangup is there?
  
 I personally had no problems.  However, there is a note which says vvv can't
 coexist with Roland's compressed folders patch in that port.  Did you enable
 both?
 
 -- 
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 mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
 EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
 

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Louis LeBlanc

WITH_VVV_PATCHES???  what rev do you have of the mutt-devel port?  I
just updated yesterday, I have 1.3.19 rev 4.  I didn't find that tag
anywhere in the Makefile.

BTW, my recent response was on target.  I removed --with-regexp from
the vvv Makefile and it build out nicely.

Thanks
Lou
On 07/18/01 07:55 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sat at the `puter and typed:
 David Champion [18/07/01 09:04 -0500]:
  Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I personally had no problems.  However, there is a note which says vvv can't
   coexist with Roland's compressed folders patch in that port.  Did you enable
   both?
  
  I'm not sure what that note's about, and I'm only assuming that vvv is
  the nntp patch (vs the other patches on his site), but I'm using VVV's
  nntp with the compressed folders patch.
  I don't think I understand the meaning of a *BSD port at all.
  
 Sorry.  Ports are a freebsd feature ... packages which download the source
 and compile as per a readymade makefile, after applying certain other
 patches.
 
 quoting from /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel/Makefile (for mutt 1.3.19)
 
  .if defined(WITH_VVV_PATCHES)  defined(WITH_COMPRESSED_FOLDERS)
  .error WITH_VVV_PATCHES and WITH_COMPRESSED_FOLDERS cannot be used together
  .endif
 
   -suresh
 

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Re: more questions

2001-07-18 Thread Fox Mulder


hi..
fixed it right finally. there was a problem with the termcap file. replaced
it and it works fine now.
thanks for the help.
ankit

* Andre Wyrwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21:42 18/07/01]:
 On Tue, 17. Jul 2001 um 08:00:18PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
  yea, that is what it looks like. i am on slackware 8.0, and have terminal type set 
to linux. i get the same even when the terminal type is xterm, only then i dont 
get colors.
  also, it is the same in text mode, and xwindows...
 
 Do you get it under X only or in console mode, too?
 
 André.



Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Fox Mulder

* Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21:42 18/07/01]:
 
 a good place to start is www.google.com (search for xterm)
 
 as I point out 2-3 times a week, xterm-color is incorrect for XFree86
 xterm, ditto linux.
i am new to this list. what will be the right setting fot xf86 if it is not
xterm-color? it seems to be working fine for me..
ankit



Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Fox Mulder wrote:

 * Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21:42 18/07/01]:
 
  a good place to start is www.google.com (search for xterm)
 
  as I point out 2-3 times a week, xterm-color is incorrect for XFree86
  xterm, ditto linux.
 i am new to this list. what will be the right setting fot xf86 if it is not
 xterm-color? it seems to be working fine for me..

xterm-xfree86

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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-18 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:52:58AM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 * Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11:42 18/07/01]:
  Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 18/07/01 11:30 +0530: 
Hey, i dont get any such indicator. guess i will have to look it up in the
manual...
   I tried to put in the %N to the folder_format. but, i still dont get the an
   N indicator next to folders containing new mail. Also, I get a zero in
   front of the Inc in the status bar.
   apparently mutt is unable to determine whether a folder has new mail or not.
   I am attaching my .muttr file. there is no nuttrc in the /etc diretory..
   
   Try mine - http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html
 
 
 hi..
 thanks for the file. i tried it, but still no help. I still dont get
 the N in the folder view, and dont get the Inc field in the status
 bar. also, i am still getting that problem with the arrows in threads.

It's been a while since I discovered this problem with my installation,
so I don't remember the details, but I couldn't get the N indicator to
work reliably until I configured mutt with --enable-buffy-size.  Now
it works fine.  (I'm using mutt-1.2i on HP-UX 10.20.)

Your folder_format should already contain the %N field.

 do i try to compile mutt myself? currently i am using the one that
 came with slackware 8.0..

You could try that.  Before doing so, however, you might execute
'mutt -v' to see the options that Slackware compiled it with.

Gary

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Re: timestamp of mailbox file is not updated

2001-07-18 Thread Andy Spiegl

  Might be helpful with some naive new-mail checking programs, but of 
  course breaks mechanisms which really look for mailbox updates.
 I vote for removing the code.  (c:
 Anyone objects?

Noone objected - does that mean that the code will be removed in the next  
release?  If no, what do I have to do so that it will be removed? 

Thanks,
 Andy.

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Re: Random Sigs? (the shortest of all!)

2001-07-18 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand

* On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:31:26AM -0700, Chris Fuchs wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:35:59AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
  Chris Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 
07/11/2001:
   #!/usr/local/bin/perl
   #randsig.pl, by Don Blaheta.  Released into public domain, blah, blah, blah.
   # Generates a signature randomly from a single file of witty quotes which
   # the user maintains; the quotes can be multi-line, and are separated by
   # blank lines.
  
  This is too much work. Try this:

Way, way too much work still. Try this:

set signature=perl -an0777F'\n\s*\n' -e 'print \$F[rand(@F)]' ~/quotes.txt|

Of course you need a ~/quotes.txt file with empty lines as separators.

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Re: vfolders

2001-07-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Thu 12-Jul-2001 at 12:49:39PM +, Jonathan Miller wrote:
 I really love the concept of vfolders, which are basically SQL
 statements that create folders out of a bunch of mail in a database.

This is a definite issue with the mail-as-file system for storing mail.

Like most people, I have my mail archive categorised and stored by
context (lists|customers|projects etc..), which is fine most of the time
since 'limit' does great searches.

The problem is mail that belongs in two or more categories. Currently I
just put multiple copies wherever I think I might want to look for it
later - obviously this is a really inefficient use of space and it would
be nice to be able create links in/between Maildirs rather than copying
the files (kind of like cross-postings in a news spool).

When I had everything in mbox files, I occasionally used grepmail/grepm
to do cross-mailbox searches. The cute thing with grepm is that it
creates an mbox file with the search results and opens it in mutt.
This is something like your 'vfolders', though painfully slow with the
amount of mail I've got.

I've thought about writing a script that does the grepm thing with
Maildirs. Ideally it would create the vfolder as a Maildir containing
only linked files, so I could have as many vfolders as I like without
having to go and buy a bigger disc. Maybe someone has already written
this.

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Louis LeBlanc

Well, I'm afraid I don't have any such entry in my termcap file.  I do,
however, have this one:

xterm-color|xterm-co|xterm with ANSI colors:\
:pa#64:Co#8:AF=\E[3%dm:AB=\E[4%dm:op=\E[39;49m:tc=xterm:

This implies to me that xterm-color _is_ a valid setting.  When I try
setting TERM=xterm-xfree86 or just xterm-xfree86, I get the
following:

Error opening terminal: xterm-xfree86.

Which implies that xterm-xfree86 is an invalid setting for the TERM
variable.

To quote the man xterm:

   Termcap(5) entries that work with xterm include
   ``xterm,'' ``vt102,'' ``vt100'' and  ``ansi,''  and  xterm
   automatically  searches the termcap file in this order for
   these entries and then sets the ``TERM'' and  the  ``TERM-
   CAP''  environment variables.

and:

-tn name
   This option specifies the  name  of  the  terminal
   type  to  be set in the TERM environment variable.
   This terminal type must exist  in  the  termcap(5)
   database and should have li# and co# entries.

So . . .

What am I to do?  If xterm-color works and xterm-xfree86 does not, why
shouldn't I use xterm-color?  I know why I shouldn't use xterm-xfree86
- it just won't work :)

BTW, the info I have included here applies to my FreeBSD system.
I still get color with TERM=xterm on Mandrake - which does have the
xterm-xfree86 entry.  I suspect this whole thing really just boils
down to whats in the termcap.

In search of enlightenment . . .

On 07/18/01 12:32 PM, Thomas E. Dickey sat at the `puter and typed:
 On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Fox Mulder wrote:
  i am new to this list. what will be the right setting fot xf86 if it is not
  xterm-color? it seems to be working fine for me..
 
 xterm-xfree86

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:44:51PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 Well, I'm afraid I don't have any such entry in my termcap file.  I do,
 however, have this one:

sigh - xterm's distribution includes a termcap which can be added (up front)
to the /etc/termcap file.
 
 xterm-color|xterm-co|xterm with ANSI colors:\
 :pa#64:Co#8:AF=\E[3%dm:AB=\E[4%dm:op=\E[39;49m:tc=xterm:
 
 This implies to me that xterm-color _is_ a valid setting.  When I try
 setting TERM=xterm-xfree86 or just xterm-xfree86, I get the
 following:
 
 Error opening terminal: xterm-xfree86.
 
 Which implies that xterm-xfree86 is an invalid setting for the TERM
 variable.
 
 To quote the man xterm:

yes (I note that ``xterm-color'' is not mentioned either)
 
The real answer is this:

infocmp xterm-xfree86 xterm-color

comparing xterm-xfree86 to xterm-color.
comparing booleans.
OTbs: F:T.
bce: T:F.
mc5i: T:F.
npc: T:F.
comparing numbers.
comparing strings.
blink: '\E[5m', NULL.
cbt: '\E[Z', NULL.
civis: '\E[?25l', NULL.
cnorm: '\E[?25h', NULL.
ech: '\E[%p1%dX', NULL.
el1: '\E[1K', NULL.
enacs: '\E(B\E)0', '\E)0'.
flash: '\E[?5h$100/\E[?5l', NULL.
hpa: '\E[%i%p1%dG', NULL.
ich: '\E[%p1%d@', NULL.
invis: '\E[8m', NULL.
is2: '\E[!p\E[?3;4l\E[4l\E', '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E'.
kDC: '\E[3;2~', NULL.
kEND: '\EO2F', NULL.
kHOM: '\EO2H', NULL.
kIC: '\E[2;2~', NULL.
kLFT: '\EO2D', NULL.
kNXT: '\E[6;2~', NULL.
kPRV: '\E[5;2~', NULL.
kRIT: '\EO2C', NULL.
kb2: '\EOE', NULL.
kcbt: '\E[Z', NULL.
kend: '\EOF', NULL.
kent: '\EOM', NULL.
kf1: '\EOP', '\E[11~'.
kf13: '\EO2P', '\E[25~'.
kf14: '\EO2Q', '\E[26~'.
kf15: '\EO2R', '\E[28~'.
kf16: '\EO2S', '\E[29~'.
kf17: '\E[15;2~', '\E[31~'.
kf18: '\E[17;2~', '\E[32~'.
kf19: '\E[18;2~', '\E[33~'.
kf2: '\EOQ', '\E[12~'.
kf20: '\E[19;2~', '\E[34~'.
kf21: '\E[20;2~', NULL.
kf22: '\E[21;2~', NULL.
kf23: '\E[23;2~', NULL.
kf24: '\E[24;2~', NULL.
kf25: '\EO5P', NULL.
kf26: '\EO5Q', NULL.
kf27: '\EO5R', NULL.
kf28: '\EO5S', NULL.
kf29: '\E[15;5~', NULL.
kf3: '\EOR', '\E[13~'.
kf30: '\E[17;5~', NULL.
kf31: '\E[18;5~', NULL.
kf32: '\E[19;5~', NULL.
kf33: '\E[20;5~', NULL.
kf34: '\E[21;5~', NULL.
kf35: '\E[23;5~', NULL.
kf36: '\E[24;5~', NULL.
kf37: '\EO6P', NULL.
kf38: '\EO6Q', NULL.
kf39: '\EO6R', NULL.
kf4: '\EOS', '\E[14~'.
kf40: '\EO6S', NULL.
kf41: '\E[15;6~', NULL.
kf42: '\E[17;6~', NULL.
kf43: '\E[18;6~', NULL.
kf44: '\E[19;6~', NULL.
kf45: '\E[20;6~', NULL.
kf46: '\E[21;6~', NULL.
kf47: '\E[23;6~', NULL.
kf48: '\E[24;6~', NULL.
kfnd: NULL, '\E[1~'.
khome: '\EOH', NULL.
kslt: NULL, '\E[4~'.
mc0: '\E[i', NULL.
mc4: '\E[4i', NULL.
mc5: '\E[5i', NULL.
op: '\E[39;49m', '\E[m'.
rmam: '\E[?7l', NULL.
rmcup: '\E[?1049l', '\E[2J\E[?47l\E8'.
rmso: '\E[27m', '\E[m'.
rmul: '\E[24m', '\E[m'.
rs1: '\Ec', NULL.
rs2: '\E[!p\E[?3;4l\E[4l\E', '\E7\E[r\E8\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E'.
setb: 
'\E[4%?%p1%{1}%=%t4%e%p1%{3}%=%t6%e%p1%{4}%=%t1%e%p1%{6}%=%t3%e%p1%d%;m', NULL.
setf: 
'\E[3%?%p1%{1}%=%t4%e%p1%{3}%=%t6%e%p1%{4}%=%t1%e%p1%{6}%=%t3%e%p1%d%;m', NULL.
sgr: 
'\E[0%?%p6%t;1%;%?%p2%t;4%;%?%p1%p3%|%t;7%;%?%p4%t;5%;%?%p7%t;8%;m%?%p9%t\016%e\017%;',
 NULL.
sgr0: '\E[m\017', '\E[m'.
smam: '\E[?7h', NULL.
smcup: '\E[?1049h', '\E7\E[?47h'.
vpa: '\E[%i%p1%dd', NULL.

Termcap(5) entries that work with xterm include
``xterm,'' ``vt102,'' ``vt100'' and  ``ansi,''  and  xterm
automatically  searches the termcap file in this order for
these entries and then sets the ``TERM'' and  the  ``TERM-
CAP''  environment variables.
 
 and:
 
 -tn name
This option specifies the  name  of  the  terminal
type  to  be set in the TERM environment variable.
This terminal type must exist  in  the  termcap(5)
database and should have li# and co# entries.
 
 So . . .
 
 What am I to do?  If xterm-color works and xterm-xfree86 does not, why
 shouldn't I use xterm-color?  I know why I shouldn't use xterm-xfree86
 - it just won't work :)
 
 BTW, the info I have included here applies to my FreeBSD system.
 I still get color with TERM=xterm on Mandrake - which does have the
 xterm-xfree86 entry.  I suspect this whole thing really just boils
 down to whats in the termcap.
 
 In search of enlightenment . . .
 
 On 07/18/01 12:32 PM, Thomas E. 

Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Ed Robitaille

In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
following line in ~/.Xdefaults

*customization: -color

This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.

Ed
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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Ed Robitaille

Ed Robitaille wrote
 In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
 following line in ~/.Xdefaults
 
 *customization: -color
 
 This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.

Oops ! You'll have to re-start  'X' or or enter the command
that re-init's 'X' to see this go into effect.

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Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread Will Yardley

On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:21:24PM -0400, Ed Robitaille wrote:
 Ed Robitaille wrote
  In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
  following line in ~/.Xdefaults
  
  *customization: -color
  
  This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.

However I'm pretty sure that color ls in freebsd only works with xterm-color
(as far as the various xterm termcaps go).  I am pretty sure the person who
sent the original message was using freebsd.  I use xterm as my termcap on
Linux machines (even if I'm connecting from my workstations which are both
freebsd) but i use xterm-color in freebsd.  does anyone know for sure that
you can get the xterm-xfree86 termcap working on *bsd and that color ls still
works with it?

w



Re: xterm colored Mutt

2001-07-18 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.18, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ed Robitaille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ed Robitaille wrote
  In order to turn on color in xterm enter the
  following line in ~/.Xdefaults
  
  *customization: -color
  
  This will turn on color in all apps that use color in an xterm window.
 
 Oops ! You'll have to re-start  'X' or or enter the command
 that re-init's 'X' to see this go into effect.

Or:
% xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Ditto - I cvsup'd yesterday, after posting the article you replied to.

Where might one find this fabled CVS repository?  I tried the one
mentioned in the FAQ but it's refusing connections...

-Justin
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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Justin R. Miller [mutt-users] 18/07/01 23:22 -0400: 
 Thus spake Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  Ditto - I cvsup'd yesterday, after posting the article you replied to.
 
 Where might one find this fabled CVS repository?  I tried the one
 mentioned in the FAQ but it's refusing connections...
 
There are literally dozens of freebsd cvsup repositories - as I'm in India I
prefer cvsup.jp.freebsd.org and cvsup.kr.freebsd.org

As for the mutt cvs repository take a look at http://www.mutt.org

-suresh

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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-18 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 There are literally dozens of freebsd cvsup repositories - as I'm in
 India I prefer cvsup.jp.freebsd.org and cvsup.kr.freebsd.org
 
 As for the mutt cvs repository take a look at http://www.mutt.org

That's what I'm talking about, the mutt one.  The one in the FAQ is
refusing pserver connections. 

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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-18 Thread Fox Mulder

* Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22:18 18/07/01]:
 It's been a while since I discovered this problem with my installation,
 so I don't remember the details, but I couldn't get the N indicator to
 work reliably until I configured mutt with --enable-buffy-size.  Now
 it works fine.  (I'm using mutt-1.2i on HP-UX 10.20.)
 
 Your folder_format should already contain the %N field.
 
  do i try to compile mutt myself? currently i am using the one that
  came with slackware 8.0..
 
 You could try that.  Before doing so, however, you might execute
 'mutt -v' to see the options that Slackware compiled it with.

i am pasting the output of mutt -v. it does list a -BUFFY-SIZE. I am not too
sure what the '-' sign means. does this mean that this this was an option, or
does it mean that it wasnt an option?

thanks for the help.

ankit mohan


$mutt -v
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail
SHAREDIR=/usr/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/etc/mutt
ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.
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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 19/07/01 10:17 +0530: 
 i am pasting the output of mutt -v. it does list a -BUFFY-SIZE. I am not too
 sure what the '-' sign means. does this mean that this this was an option, or
 does it mean that it wasnt an option?
 
+ = used.  - = not used.

 +HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS

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