Re: Subject charset issue

2007-09-02 Thread Christian Ebert
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 14:24:47 -0400
 I was able to get mutt and bash to agree on en_US.ISO8859-1,
 but there is no option for that in Terminal.app's preferences.
 I only see Western (ISO Latin 1) and Western (ISO Latin 9)
 [In fact, I even opened up Terminal.app's .plist to see if I
 could manually put in the right string, but no dice].

[Menu] File - Show Info - Display - Character Set Encoding
and then choose Unicode (UTF-8)

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Re: Subject charset issue

2007-09-02 Thread Alain Bench
 On Saturday, September 1, 2007 at 14:24:47 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I made all three agree on en_US.UTF-8, and the result was terrible.
 Most accented chars still were garbled.

Strange: I've seen reports about this very setting working OK on
MacOS-X. The shell command locale charmap prints something? And what
for the usual :set charset ?charset (normally the first UTF-8, the
later utf-8).


 Plus, I sent a test mail to myself with some accented chars, and
 although they looked fine when I sent it, they were garbled upon
 receipt (it wasn't slashes and digits, it was UTF?..blah blah).

Your mail server seems to be the Sun Java System Messaging Server,
a sequel of the ugly iPlanet, well(!) known for its careless
reinterpretation, rewriting, and reordering of headers, dirty
reencodings, munging of crypographic contents, modified msgids, lost
messages, and so on. IMHO a hype toy, not to be used for serious work.

However, we can't be sure if it's its fault, or effect of some
charset mix in your config. Could you please send me a test mail, in
UTF-8 setup, with Cristóbal's accent both in subject and in body?


 I was able to get mutt and bash to agree on en_US.ISO8859-1, but there
 is no option for that in Terminal.app's preferences. I only see
 Western (ISO Latin 1)

That's it: Latin-1 and 8859-1 are the one same thing.


 The accented 'o' in 'Cristobal', i.e., 'ó', showed up

Double fine: You also sent this 'ó' correctly! :-)


 but it ceased to be rendered correctly in Cristobal's own From: line,
 whereas it was fine before I started meddling. Instead of the correct
 char, I got a tilde over a capital A and some other junk. This seems
 like a step backward.

Only people on UTF-8 terminals happen, by happy accident, to see it
wear the apparence of correctness. For everyone else, it's broken.
Broken from the beginning, and only Cristóbal can fix it cleanly.


 pick one already available in locale -a.
 zillion crazy moon languages.

:-) locale -a | grep ^en_US should show the available variants
for your language and country only.


 On Saturday, September 1, 2007 at 14:43:48 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 when I rename an IMAP folder on this school account, instead of giving
 me the original name of the folder, it gives me \xxx\xxx... where the
 xs are digits.

I know nothing about IMAP. I seem to vaguely recall that folder
names in the IMAP protocol are in UTF-7 (example Crist+APM-bal).
However this unreadable thing is expected to be transcoded to the locale
in order to become user readable. And at the other end, the server
probably also transcodes this to and from its filesystem's charset.


Bye!Alain.
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Re: How to browse Imap folders?

2007-09-02 Thread Alex Polite
I've found mutts IMAP-support to be less than stellar. A good
workaround is to use a IMAP-Maildir syncronizer like offlineimap.

 http://software.complete.org/offlineimap


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Re: How to browse Imap folders?

2007-09-02 Thread Rado S
=- Marco Vittorini Orgeas wrote on Sun  2.Sep'07 at 14:54:15 +0200 -=

 On my imap server I have some other folders than just Inbox (they are 
 obviously subfolders of my INBOX) and i want to navigate them.
 For doing this I do again a c + tab for view my *current* folder 
 subfolders, but it shows me again my local (localhost) mail home folder. 
 And hitting again tab shows me again my mailboxes.
 I read trough the manual,the wiki and in this list archives,but i am not 
 lucky.

Then try /Folders + /Actions in the wiki guide again.
Also note than IMAP-browsing has been improved recently, upgrade to
1.5.15+

 mailboxes = imap://mavior.eu/
 mailboxes = imap://kdo.it/

See /Syntax or manual.txt for how to define mailboxes.

 Is it possible to browse my imap folders, without do c and write down 
 every time my imap address and then browse with auto-completing?

See macros.

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Re: How to browse Imap folders?

2007-09-02 Thread Marco Vittorini Orgeas

I have read about it.Maybe i will try that.
But I have to say that I get the beaviour I want if I insert this 
command in my muttrc:

set folder =imap://mavior.eu
The problem is then my base folder is to default my imap one.Then I 
can't navigate with a tab my local folders and I am again to the start 
point!
I believed that inserting the set folder command in the folder  hook 
would did the trickbut seems  to do not!
It's like if the fodler-hook doesn't match the my folder but I have 
tried also folder-hook imap://mavior.eu/.*? and it still doesn't work!

Am I missing something about the hooks?
thank you anyway
Alex Polite wrote:

I've found mutts IMAP-support to be less than stellar. A good
workaround is to use a IMAP-Maildir syncronizer like offlineimap.

 http://software.complete.org/offlineimap


  


charset perls into wiki

2007-09-02 Thread Rado S
Moin mutters,

recently I noticed _again_ a lengthy post by Alain explaining
charset issues in so great detail that people are very thankful
for it. Luckily, I didn't have so many problems with charsets in the
past (or simply ignored them ;), so I didn't delve deeply into it to
be an expert on the underlying background.

Can some kind benificiary of Alain's tutorials recapture all the
good advice and convert it (last and older ones from archives) into
a nice document at http://WIKI.mutt.org/ - MuttGuide - Charsets?

It would be nice if Alain would not have to do it again and could
save some re-typing (unless he likes it ;).
Thank you.

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Re: changing the subject line of a thread

2007-09-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.31.0746 +0200]:
 Patch submitted to mutt-dev.

Muchas gracias!

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