Re: sample muttrc file for AOL email...
* Steve Karmeinsky [04-13-23 09:14]: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 05:26:06AM -0500 or thereabouts, Lester Rees wrote: > > >No, Gmail no longer allows Mutt to be used for it. Google considers it > >to be a "less secure app." Hence, they do not allow Mutt to be used > >with it. I have tried and have failed since Google made that change to > >Gmail. > > Well that is strange as this email is using mutt and a Google Workspace > account and I'm guessing you're getting it fine (yes you do need an app > password). yes, same here for quite some time. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: Newbie help for an imap gmailg connection
* Dan Dunfee [04-11-23 17:34]:
> Hello Anton,
>
> I wrote:
>
> > > I want to connect using imap with an gmail account which I hear requires
> > > some additional security steps these days.
> > > [...]
> >
> > For me gmail with mutt via imap to read and smtp to send works fine.
> > Some time ago i created "app password" via gmail web interface and it
> > works just perfect since approximately 6 months that way.
>
> What are the steps to get this additional gmail "app password" for use as
> "secret_app_password" in muttrc?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
> > >
> > > Has anyone info/experience about such a mutt imap gamil connection
> > > possibility?
> > >
> >
> > here is relevant snippet from my .muttrc:
> >
> > # Smtp settings for gmail sending {
> > set smtp_url = "smtps://anton.sharo...@smtp.gmail.com"
> > set smtp_pass = "my_very_secret_app_password"
> > # }
> >
> > # gmail imap specific {
> > set ssl_starttls=yes
> > set ssl_force_tls=yes
> > set imap_user = "anton.sharo...@gmail.com"
> > set imap_pass = "my_very_secret_app_password"
> > set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com/bSpool
> > # gmail imap specific }
> >
> > i have configured via gmail web interface a filter to assign a label
> > "bSpool" to every incoming mail. That way, working with them in mutt
> > allows me to just delete messages, which i read, via mutt - and gmail
> > removes the label "bSpool" from them as a result. At the same time all
> > messages are still kept on server labeled potenially somehow differently
> > (my labels were configured long ago before i started to use mutt, and i
> > like to keep all messages in my gmail box anyway to access them from
> > other devices).
> >
> > i saw as well recommendation to use:
> >
> >
> > set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX
> >
> >
> > and suspect it will really delete messages from gmail server if you
> > delete them from within mutt - but it was never my goal and i never
> > tested such possibility.
> >
> > Hope that helps, Anton
> >
just google for "gmail app password"
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Re: Newbie help for an imap gmailg connection
* Anton Sharonov [04-11-23 15:44]: > Hi, Dan, > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:36:08PM -0400, Dan Dunfee wrote: > > [...] > > I want to connect using imap with an gmail account which I hear requires > > some additional security steps these days. > > [...] > > For me gmail with mutt via imap to read and smtp to send works fine. > Some time ago i created "app password" via gmail web interface and it > works just perfect since approximately 6 months that way. > I did the same using fetchmail. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: Deleting large number of emails from busy mailbox
* Vegard Svanberg [03-14-23 03:41]: > * Kevin J. McCarthy [2023-03-13 21:07]: > > > Do you mean the 2000 emails you want to delete, or the half-million emails > > in the mailbox? > > The 2000 I want to delete, yes. :-) > > > If it's the first, it sounds as if Mutt thinks the value in $trash is not > > the same server as the mailbox you are connected do. Otherwise it would do > > a UID COPY on the server side, which would be faster. > > Holy moly, I just re-discovered I had a trash! Which, needless to say, is > huge... I'd forgotten all about it. > > You're right, they're not the same. Mailbox is on IMAP, trash is a local > file. > > Well, that explains it, then. > > After reading the fine manual, I don't see an immediate way to disable > trash. Assuming I'll have to move it to IMAP then. Which is fine, just > wondering if trash could be disabled as I don't really need it. you haven't gone deep enough. man muttrc: maildir_trash Type: boolean Default: no If set, messages marked as deleted will be saved with the maildir trashed flag instead of unlinked. Note: this only applies to maildir-style mailboxes. Setting it will have no effect on other mailbox types. and there is "mh_purge" and trash Type: path Default: “” If set, this variable specifies the path of the trash folder where the mails marked for deletion will be moved, instead of being irremediably purged. NOTE: When you delete a message in the trash folder, it is really deleted, so that you have a way to clean the trash. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: multiple IMAP accounts on one server?
* Matěj Cepl [01-15-23 15:00]: > Hi, > > I am looking for the terminal-based MUA which would be able to > work with my email needs. However, for various reasons I really > need all my emails stay on multiple IMAP accounts (no local > emails if possible). I have started with mutt as it is the > client I know best, but I am not married to it, if you know > about anything better (Alpine?, notmuch?, anything else) which > could help me, then I am all ears. > > account-hook .*localhost 'set imap_user=matej imap_pass=secret1 \ > from="Matěj Cepl " > folder=imap://localhost.localdomain \ > trash=+Trash postponed=+Drafts' > # account-hook mcepl 'set imap_user=mc...@cepl.eu imap_pass="secret2" \ > # from="Matěj Cepl " \ > # folder=imaps://redcrew.org trash=+Trash postponed=+Drafts' > account-hook .*redcrew.org 'set imap_user="ma...@ceplovi.cz" \ > imap_pass= "secret3" \ > from="Matěj Cepl " \ > folder=imaps://redcrew.org trash=+Trash postponed=+Drafts' > account-hook .*suse.de 'set imap_user=mcepl@Thunderbird \ > imap_pass= "secret4" \ > postponed=+INBOX/Drafts from="Matěj Cepl " \ > trash=+INBOX/Trash' > > The problem is obviously mc...@cepl.eu account. > > * Is it possible to have two account hooks directed against one > IMAP server? certainly, I have two IMAP accounts regestered with googlemail but with different names and I use mutt for many years. but I download my mail to my local server for access. [...] [-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --] :: waste -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: attach file from another email to current email
* Ranjan Maitra [11-14-22 11:30]: > Hi, > > I am sure that this is possible, but I can not figure out how to attach files > from another email to my current email that I would like those emails > attached to. Typically, I simply save each attachment locally, and then > include it, which seems unnecessary and so I suspect that it is possible to > directly add an attachment from an email in one of my mail-folders. > > How do I do this? > I would open the "another email" and export the attachment, then go back to "current email" and attach the exported file. I do not do it that often to be concerned enough to research other methods. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: mark as read
* Jon LaBadie [10-02-22 17:40]: > Maybe I'm overlooking something. A "mark as read" command > that works with tagged messages. > > Sometimes I'll select and tag a group of messages I want to > do something with. Perhaps delete or perhaps save as a > group. If I'm going to save them I might want to mark them > as read (even if I haven't really read them :). > > So, use the semicolon (;) and enter the " N" command > that toggles the 'N' flag. Whoops, it "toggles" the flag, > so anything I have read gets the N flag turned on. > > Maybe " R", "mark the current thread as read". Whoops, > they are not all the same thread, so only one message gets > marked as read. > > Is there any command that will work with tagged messages to > mark them as read irrespective of their current status or > thread status? the "read" flag is set by the existing, or not, header Status: RO <-- indicates msg has been read add or remove that line as the last line of the msg header. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: Having problems with POP3 setup
* X Tec [09-06-22 10:35]: > But as mentioned, they reserved POP3 only for paid users... > > > On 2022-09-06 09:08:47, Mark H. Wood wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 03, 2022 at 05:35:31PM -0500, x...@trimaso.com.mx wrote: > > > > > > > What's the current panorama for POP3 nowadays? Is it still used or is it > > > > dying? I heard Yahoo dropped POP3 support since years ago, except for > > > > paid > > > > users... > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Yahoo! can't drop POP3 until they get their IMAP service to stop going > > wonky for weeks at a time. > > > > -- > > Mark H. Wood > > Lead Technology Analyst > > > > University Library > > Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis > > 755 W. Michigan Street > > Indianapolis, IN 46202 > > 317-274-0749 > > www.ulib.iupui.edu no, there is no "paid" reservation. I regularly access using fetchmail on two different accounts as below: poll pop.mail.yahoo.com tracepolls with proto POP3 timeout 150 user '' here options fetchall stripcr sslproto tls1 ssl sslcertck \ mda '/usr/lib/sendmail -i -oem -f %F %T' and from my fetchmail log: fetchmail: reading message \ @yahoo@any-jpop.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net:1 of 1 (12108 octets) \ flushed -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: mutt, imaps and OAuth2
* Sébastien Hinderer [08-04-22 06:52]: > Hello Francesco! > > Francesco Ariis (2022/08/04 12:27 +0200): > > Hello Sébastien, > > > > Il 04 agosto 2022 alle 09:40 Sébastien Hinderer ha scritto: > > > I am about to work for an organization whose e-mails are managed by > > > Google. > > > > > > I tried to configure mutt to read those e-mails, in particular to make > > > the OAuth2 authentification method work for imaps. > > > > Have you considered enabling 2fa and then adding an application-specific > > password? > > I didn't realise this possibility was there, actually, many thanks for > mentionning it! > > > > I did that because I could not get OAuth2 to work > > I think there are ways, but which do not look very straightforward to > me, sadly. > > Practically speaking, are you requested to confirm your authentication > through your phone each time you read your e-mails withmutt, or just > from time to time? iirc, you get an acknowledgement/confirmation/authentication originally and no more. I set it up last year and my mail system for two goggle accounts and have not been requested additional auth since for either. > If confirming authentication on the phone on each e-mail read is > required, then I fear it's quicly going to become a burden. If it's just > a matter of ocnfirming from time to time, then I think it's okay. it has not been for me. > I will also need to check whether my company allows this, which I am > not sure but will check still today. I use fetchmail and procmail: poll imap.gmail.com with interval 0 proto imap port 993 timeout 150 \ auth any, and tracepolls user 'abcdef.ghij', with password "abcdefghijklmno", is Ixme here, \ and ssl, and fetchall sslcertck mda '/usr/lib/sendmail -i -oem -f %F %T' user 'ghijklm.nopqr', with password "abcdeXlmnoo", is Ixme here, \ and ssl, and fetchall sslcertck mda '/usr/lib/sendmail -i -oem -f %F %T' it just works. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. - keycode
* mutt users list [07-28-22 16:25]: > Hi, > > I configured a shortcut - C- and C- - to naviage the sidebar. > It works, but on some terminal, pressing this shortcut yields > > Key is not bound. Press '?' for help. > > This is puzzling and I suspect that the terminal sends something > else. Is there a way to display the key combination that was > actually received by mutt, so I know what is wrong with the terminal? > > The terminal in question is urxvt on OpenBSD. xev and showkey showkey needs to be ran in a console terminal w/o X. if you are running wayland, I dunno -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: Two questions regarding header display
* Bastian [06-20-22 08:33]: > I did not follow the entire thread, sorry for potential double post. > On 20Jun22 08:15+1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > On 07Jun2022 09:56, raf wrote: > > >And I'm not sure I can do anything about it. > > There are many things you can do. I see you've already shifted to just > > using "bold" etc in your color directives, but also: > > On my systems, mutt is built and linked against ncurses. I could not > make it use 256 colors. I do not recall where, but I read somewhere on > the internet (and thus it must be true :) ) that mutt needs to be built > against slang to support 256 colors. I never tried that actually and I > just accept to only have the 16 default colors set in my Xdefaults. > Of course this might be total nonsense. my mutt is built against ncurses 6.3.20220612 and I have 256 colors mutt -v |grep -i color +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: file corruption after transmission over email
* Marcelo Laia [06-01-22 12:17]: > On 29/05/22 at 12:49, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > On 2022/05/29 12:15, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > > > If I send a message using > > > > > > tee >(lbdb-fetchaddr -a)|/usr/bin/msmtp -a gmail $@ > > > > > > the attached file with embedded image got corrupted > > > > What is that line intended to do? > > Hi Kurt! > > I'm so sorry for don't had been do a complete explanation about that. > Sorry! > > Here [1] is a configuration that could bee explanation how to use LBDB > with mutt and msmtp. > > In this mean time, I migrate to abook and all work nice, now. > > I use abook in this way: > > set query_command = "abook --mutt-query '%s'" > set display_filter = "pee 'abook --add-email-quiet' 'cat -'" # all > opened messages have senders address added to abook database. > > I uninstalled lbdb from my machine. why uninstall lbdb? you can query it directly, ie: lbdbq Marcelo\ Laia lbdbq: 1 matches marcelol...@gmail.com Marcelo Laia then only add addresses to abook that you really need. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: file corruption after transmission over email
* Marcelo Laia [05-21-22 15:24]: > On 20/05/22 at 01:30, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > On 20/05/22 at 01:22, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > On 18/05/22 at 01:17, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > > > > > > Nowadays, senders have a feedback that attach files that I sent was > > > > corrupted. > > > > > > > > Have a someone similar issue? > > > So, there are some issue with GMail to bypass! > > > > > > Have you using GMail? If so, could you do a test for me? > > > Please, note that there is a file size difference. It looks like GMail > > is cutting the file or removing a part of it. > > I was wrong! > > Yesterday, when I sent the message through the Yahoo server, mutt saved > it in the outbox, before sending it. For that reason, I thought the > Yahoo upload was ok. However, this morning, I found that the message had > not been sent. It was jammed in the msmtpq queue (msmtp.queue). When I > sent the message earlier, the file got corrupted. So, it doesn't be > relevant if you send by Yahoo or GMail: the file is corrupted in anyway. > I'm sorry for being wrong. > > Problem persist! > > Have you using GMail? If so, could you do a test for me? I have had no problems sending an included file via gmail or mail.yahoo.com using mutt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: file corruption after transmission over email
* Marcelo Laia [05-20-22 12:32]: > On 20/05/22 at 01:22, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > On 18/05/22 at 01:17, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > > > > Nowadays, senders have a feedback that attach files that I sent was > > > corrupted. > > > > > > Have a someone similar issue? > > > > > > > > > I found that issue is related to GMail. > > > > I sent the same attach from a Yahoo account and I got it open normally, > > like a charm! > > > > Here is the headers: > > > > > > From: Marcelo > > To: echo > > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 13:10:42 -0300 > > Subject: Test Yahoo > > > > [-- Anexo No.1 --] > > [-- Tipo: text/plain, Codificação: 7bit, Tamanho: 0,1K --] > > > > -- > > Marcelo > > > > [-- Anexo No.2: TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx --] > > [-- Tipo: > > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document, > > Codificação: > > base64, Tamanho: 6,0M --] > > > > [-- application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > > não é aceito (use > > 'v' para ver esta parte) --] > > > > > > Attach view (after C-v) > > > > I 1 [text/plain, > > 7bit, us-ascii, 0,1K] > > A 2 TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx > > [applica/vnd.openxm, base64, 6,0M] > > > > > > So, there are some issue with GMail to bypass! > > > > Have you using GMail? If so, could you do a test for me? > > > > Plus: > > > GMail > > From: Marcelo > To: echo > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 12:50:17 -0300 > Subject: Test 8 emacs > > [-- Anexo No.1 --] > [-- Tipo: text/plain, Codificação: 7bit, Tamanho: 0K --] > > > [-- Anexo No.2: TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx --] > [-- Tipo: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document, > Codificação: > base64, Tamanho: 71K --] > > [-- application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > não é aceito (use > 'v' para ver esta parte) --] > > > Yahoo > > From: Marcelo > To: echo > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 13:10:42 -0300 > Subject: Test Yahoo > > [-- Anexo No.1 --] > [-- Tipo: text/plain, Codificação: 7bit, Tamanho: 0,1K --] > > -- > Marcelo > > [-- Anexo No.2: TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx --] > [-- Tipo: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document, > Codificação: > base64, Tamanho: 6,0M --] > > [-- application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > não é aceito (use > 'v' para ver esta parte) --] > > > Attach View (after C-v) > > GMail > > I 1 [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0K] > A 2 TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx [applica/vnd.openxm, base64, 71K] > > > Yahoo > > I 1 [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0,1K] > A 2 TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx [applica/vnd.openxm, base64, 6,0M] > > > Please, note that there is a file size difference. It looks like GMail > is cutting the file or removing a part of it. > > -- > Marcelo I have not ever had that happen to me, that I can recall. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: file corruption after transmission over email
* Marcelo Laia [05-20-22 11:02]: > On 18/05/22 at 10:42, Paul Gilmartin via Mutt-users wrote: > > On May 18, 2022, at 10:17:56, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > > > > > Nowadays, senders have a feedback that attach files that I sent was > > > corrupted. > > > > > > Have a someone similar issue? > > > > > Do you know (Orr can thee recipients tell you): > > Content-Type: and Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > I did some tests and neither solved the issue. > > Here is what I did. > > set send_charset="utf-8" > > or > > set send_charset="us-ascii:utf-8" > > or > > set use_8bitmime > > or > > set use_8bitmime = yes > > This is what I receive form server: > > Test 1 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Type: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename*=iso-8859-1''TCC%20L%FAnia-Vieira-v3%2Edocx > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > Test 2 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Type: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename*=utf-8''TCC%20L%C3%BAnia-Vieira-v3%2Edocx > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > On the Sent Box, I got, for all messages sent: > > From: Marcelo > To: echo > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 11:19:12 -0300 > Subject: Test 6 > > [-- Anexo No.1 --] > [-- Tipo: text/plain, Codificação: 7bit, Tamanho: 0K --] > > > [-- Anexo No.2: TCC Lúnia-Vieira-v3.docx --] > [-- Tipo: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document, > Codificação: > base64, Tamanho: 71K --] > > [-- application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > não é aceito (use > 'v' para ver esta parte) --] > > Please, someone could help me? I have for many years w/o problem: set send_charset="us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-15:windows-1252:utf-8" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Re: ssl_starttls unknown variable
* Christoph Klassen [03-17-22 12:57]: > > On 3/17/22 17:45, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > shouldbe > > > > :set ssl_starttls=yes > > :set ?ssl_starttls > That's what I configured in muttrc. But when I start mutt I get: "Error in > /home/mint/.muttrc, line 9: ssl_starttls: unknown variable" the man page for muttrc indicates set ssl_starttls=yes I do not have it set in ~/.muttrc as checking inside mutt, :set ?ssl_starttls shows ssl_starttls=yes and the man page: ssl_starttls Type: quadoption Default: yes defaults to on/yes -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: ssl_starttls unknown variable
* Patrick Shanahan [03-17-22 12:41]: > * Christoph Klassen [03-17-22 11:37]: > > Hello! > > > > > > I built mutt after configuring it with ./configure --enable-gpgme > > --enable-imap --enable-sidebar --enable-smtp --with-gnutls > > > > In the muttrc I wanted to set ssl_starttls to yes but as the subject reveals > > it's an unknown variable to mutt. Can you please help me to fix this error? > > I used a search engine but couldn't find anything useful. > > man muttrc > look for starttls > > or in mutt, type follow > : > set ssl_starttls=yes > set ?ssl_starttls err, brain fart shouldbe :set ssl_starttls=yes :set ?ssl_starttls -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: ssl_starttls unknown variable
* Christoph Klassen [03-17-22 11:37]: > Hello! > > > I built mutt after configuring it with ./configure --enable-gpgme > --enable-imap --enable-sidebar --enable-smtp --with-gnutls > > In the muttrc I wanted to set ssl_starttls to yes but as the subject reveals > it's an unknown variable to mutt. Can you please help me to fix this error? > I used a search engine but couldn't find anything useful. man muttrc look for starttls or in mutt, type follow : set ssl_starttls=yes set ?ssl_starttls -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: Unexplained mutt error
* Ranjan Maitra [02-25-22 10:54]:
> On Fri Feb25'22 07:00:05AM, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > From: Charles Cazabon
> > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 07:00:05 -0600
> > To: mutt-users@mutt.org
> > Subject: Re: Unexplained mutt error
> >
> > Kurt Hackenberg wrote:
> > > On 2022/02/22 18:10, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > >
> > > > As an aside, for others: is there, in .muttrc a way to set things such
> > > > that hitting "r" would automatically switch to reply list ("L") for
> > > > specific folders?
> > [...]
> > > It's possible to change key bindings, so maybe you could do that on the
> > > fly,
> > > conditionally, for certain folders...or maybe you could write some tricky
> > > macro...but I think probably those are both bad ideas. I think you'd do
> > > better to just always use 'L' to reply to a list.
> >
> > That's the right solution, but I've also seen people configure their MDA to
> > add a Reply-To: header to incoming list messages that don't have them.
> > Just a
> > thought.
> >
>
> I see: I use fetchmail and then procmail for fetching email. So, would this
> be done through fetchmail or procmail?
>
If you *must* add a header, procmail would be the app.
> Regardless, actually I think that all I would be happy with would be a query
> or something that alerts me to the fact that I am potentially writing to an
> individual address (or a list) (for when I am on a list, but not in general,
> because then I start to blindly accept because most email is not to a list).
>
> Any thoughts on if this is possible?
man muttrc
specifically look at
lists [ ... ]
and "subscribe"
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Re: Unexplained mutt error
* Hokan [02-20-22 14:11]: > Replying to the sender seems to be the default behavior for the list. > > Perhaps the list owner could set the "Reply-to" header to help with this. > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:37:22AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > Please don't reply to me personally, it's poor etiquette. there is no *default* behavior after observing netiquette. setting "Reply-To:" alters the header and the list software abstains. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: see attached html documents along with chromium
* Gerard ROBIN [01-01-70 12:34]: > Le Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 04:16:52PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:16:52 -0500 > > From: Patrick Shanahan > > To: mutt-users@mutt.org > > Subject: Re: see attached html documents along with chromium > > User-Agent: mutt 1.10.1 > > > > * Gerard ROBIN [12-20-21 14:35]: > > > Hello, > > > I have to go to a site, https://www.doctolib.fr/, which is not compatible > > > with firefox, so I installed chromium and I set chromium as default > > > browser but when I click on "m" it is firefox that starts. I tinkered with > > > the /etc/mailcap file but was unsuccessful. > > > > works for me with firefox ??? > > MozillaFirefox-95.0.1-1.1.x86_64 > > openSUSE Tumbleweeds > > works for me too up to a point. When I give my password, then I see two pdf > files to download. Ok I click on it and I get error: > - > Une erreur technique est survenue, nous > faisons tout pour la résoudre le plus > rapidement possible. Veuillez réessayer > ultérieurement. Si le problème persiste > contactez le support. > > A technical error has occurred, we > do everything to solve it the most > quickly possible. Try Again > later. If the problem persists > contact support. > - > They are liars, no support. > > I scanned the site back and forth and finally found a page that clearly > stated that their site was incompatible with firefox and that it worked > optimally with windows and chromium only. > I think that if the "m" key starts chromium I will be able to download > the pdf files without error under linux. > > -- > Gerard > _ > ***** > Created with Mutt 2.0.5 > under Debian Linux BULLSEYE > * got BOTH of your emails, list and personal. absolutly no need of duplicate mail, please consider. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: see attached html documents along with chromium
* Gerard ROBIN [12-20-21 14:35]: > Hello, > I have to go to a site, https://www.doctolib.fr/, which is not compatible > with firefox, so I installed chromium and I set chromium as default > browser but when I click on "m" it is firefox that starts. I tinkered with > the /etc/mailcap file but was unsuccessful. works for me with firefox ??? MozillaFirefox-95.0.1-1.1.x86_64 openSUSE Tumbleweeds -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc What sort of day was it? A day like all days, filled with those events that alter and illuminate our times...
Re: OT: "domain-level" email hosting services?
* Nathan Stratton Treadway [10-23-21 14:30]: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:04:57 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > I have done the same for >20 years. but I do use relays for quite a bit. > > Relaying outgoing email (i.e. what I sent out from Mutt running at home) > via my ISP's "submission"/port 587 service seems straightforward. > > Do you also use "relays" for e.g. collecting messages arriving in from > the Internet, or anything like that? no, fetchmail and procmail I do use relays for mail originating on the 7 other boxes in my local net. the server provides outgoing mail path for the clients. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: OT: "domain-level" email hosting services?
* Ofer Inbar [10-23-21 09:56]: > I run postfix on a cheap cloud-hosted linux instance. That does mean > I sometimes have to deal with deliverability issues which can be annoying. > However, I've searched for a more fully managed email hosting service > that would let me see my logs, including logs of attempts to connect > to deliver to my domain(s), and I don't think such a thing exists. > I value the ability to tail -f my mail server logs enough to make it > worth it to me to run my own server. I have done the same for >20 years. but I do use relays for quite a bit. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Wordwrap of long lines
* David J. J. Ring, Jr. [08-10-21 11:49]: > It seems I'm either getting emails with long lines now all of a sudden or I > did something to my > configuration. > > I'm seeing lines with + at the left hand side and reading the screen it > doesn't make sense because > some of the message is missing, which I can see by going into the editor and > looking at the message. > > I would rather just see the message directly with lines wrapped. > > How do I do this, or is it a key sequence? I could not find this in "help". set wrap=78 and it is in the fine documenatation man muttrc also in mutt's console bottom line, :set wrap -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Viewing multiple images (was Re: Console HTML view with picture)
* Akkana Peck [08-02-21 12:11]: > Tavis Ormandy writes: > > Not exactly what was asked, but I use this mailcap to view image > > attachments: > > > > image/png; img2sixel -- %s | less -r; nametemplate=%s.png; needsterminal > > Related question: is there a way to view several attachments at once? > > For example, someone sends five photos of a bird they saw, or > twelve funny pictures. In the attachment view, I can tag > attachments, but it doesn't seem like more than one attachment > is ever passed to a viewer. > > If they're all multipart/related, then I have a script that will > show the HTML page in a browser window. But recently a Mac user sent > me an email with a bunch of image/heif attachments which the browser > didn't handle. They worked fine in an image viewer, but it's > tedious to show lots of image attachments one after another, because > you have to wait for each image window to come up, then move focus > back to the mutt window to arrow down and open the next image. It > would be great to have a way to tag all the image attachmentss and > pass them all together as arguments to an image viewer. why not just set w3m to automagically display them set "auto_image=TRUE" w3m -o auto_image=TRUE -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Exiting JED on mutt
* M.R.P. zensky [08-02-21 10:25]: > Hello When I want to compose an email in mutt is launches the JED editor. How > do I leave JED once I finish my email? Ctrl-X Ctrl-C -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Console HTML view with picture using W3M or other
* Jude DaShiell [07-31-21 23:34]: > If memory serves, w3m can use av package if installed to allow it to view > pictures. I've only read about this never having been able to look at > pictures. > > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > > Has anyone succesfully configured mutt to give a roughly equivalent > > view of html emails using w3m or other > > browser in text console with direct-fb or other? > > > > If so, is there a ~/.config/mailcap or muttrc file or both that anyone > > would care to share or point me to? w3m is configuragle to display images, "auto_image=TRUE" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Can folder-hook refer to a sub-directory mailbox?
* Chris Green [06-24-21 12:16]: > It's a bit difficult to explain this. > > Is it possible for a folder-hook RE to apply to all mailboxes in a > sub-directory? > > E.g. can one produce an RE for all the sub-directories of ~/mail/folder? > All my actual mailboxes are two levels further down:- > > ./folder/france > ./folder/france/jobs > ./folder/france/healthcare > ./folder/france/healthcare/tmp > ./folder/france/healthcare/new > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.01.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.04.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.02.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.07.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.03.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.05.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.00.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/healthcare/cur/1601033995.06.mbox:2, > ./folder/france/houseSitting > ./folder/france/houseSitting/tmp > ./folder/france/houseSitting/new > ./folder/france/houseSitting/cur > ./folder/france/houseSitting/cur/1601033995.00.mbox:2,RS > > The mailboxes are jobs (though it's empty), healthcare and housesitting. > Obviously I actually have lots more mailboxes in lots more > sub-directories below ./folder. Can a folder-hook RE select them all? > > I.e. does 'folder/.*/.*' work? did you consider seting it and then trying? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
* Cameron Simpson [02-15-21 17:06]: > On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote: > >Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) > > Hmm: > > [~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam* > -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam > -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spam-definite > > Possibly not. > > Can you tell mairix to not index the Junk folders? certainly omit= in .mairixrc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mutt stops showing mail contents
* Kevin J. McCarthy [12-20-20 21:53]: [...] > > Let me see if I can dig up the OpenSUSE src rpm and see what's in it. > > Yes, I believe this is the problem. nofreeze-c72f740a.patch was added to > the OpenSUSE src rpm on December 7th. That file seems to be the combination > of several commits in Mutt, but misses some important parts of > 758d406ede97ad627ab804ab049e77396d18746c. > > This will lead to the behavior you describe - eventually the parser does not > work. I'll see if I can find a contact or some way to file a bug with them. bugzilla.opensuse.org -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)
* mutt users list [12-04-20 13:04]: > Hi, > > Thanks again! > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 11:57:52 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > wrote: > > > > > > * mutt users list [12-04-20 12:45]: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 11:13:03 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: * mutt users list > > [12-04-20 11:44]:> > > > Hi, > > > > > > Thanks very much! > > > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 10:24:44 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > > > > wrote: * mutt users list > > > > [12-04-20 11:07]: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:56:23 AM CST, Dave Woodfall > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On 04/12/20 05:30, Mutt Users put forth the > > > > >>proposition: > > > > >> Hi, > > > > >> If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file > > > > >> test.png inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window > > > > >> (inside xterm). How do I do this? > > > > >> I tried putting: > > > > >> image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output > > > > >> However this does not work and gives me the options of w3m in the > > > > >> mutt window. How can I use this? > > > > > > snipped > > > > > > > I didn't have it installed, but test installed and get same result. > > > > removed it and following works w/o it, but w3m must be configured to > > > > display graphical. I will have to look to see where, don't remember, > > > > too old, been too long. > > > > > > > for me: w3m display.jpg will display image display.jpg > > > > > > > ok found it > > > > Display embedded graphics > > > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE http://w3m.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > ~/.w3m/config > > > > user defined configuration file; overrides /etc/w3m/config > > > > > > > > > My apologies, I do not understand. Where do I put this? In my mailcap? > > > FWIW, I tried: > > > > > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE test.png > > > > > > and that opens gpicview for me. > > > > > > I copied over the system config /etc/w3m/config to /.w3m/config > > > > > > and added > > > ext_image_viewer=0 > > > > > > and then I get the inline images. However, how to do this inside mutt > > > does not seem to work. > > > > > > I have the following in my .mailcap: > > > > > > auto_view image/* > > > image/*;w3m %s; copiousoutput > > > > > > But what i get is a bunch of text for the image file that I am trying to > > > display. > > > > > > Thanks in advance again! > > > > > > > > > I have: > > > > > text/html; w3m -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; > > > needsterminal > > > > > > And what do you do for inline display of images? Btw, I have to say that > > w3m works pretty well on most of the stuff sent by html. I wonder if I > > could make it the default display for e-mails that come in html. > > > > I don't use w3m, that is not w3m's intended usage use something to display > > images, such as: > image/jpg;/usr/bin/display --auto-orient %s > > But this does not display inline, inside the terminal. I was trying to get > that to work. Sorry. no, you would need to replace /usr/bin/display with something like "fbi" which will work if you have framebuffer enabled. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)
* mutt users list [12-04-20 12:45]: > Hi, > > Thanks again! > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 11:13:03 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > wrote: * mutt users list [12-04-20 > 11:44]:> > > Hi, > > > > Thanks very much! > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 10:24:44 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > > > wrote: * mutt users list > > > [12-04-20 11:07]: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:56:23 AM CST, Dave Woodfall > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> On 04/12/20 05:30, Mutt Users put forth the > > > >>proposition: > > > >> Hi, > > > >> If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file > > > >> test.png inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window > > > >> (inside xterm). How do I do this? > > > >> I tried putting: > > > >> image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output > > > >> However this does not work and gives me the options of w3m in the mutt > > > >> window. How can I use this? > > > > snipped > > > > > I didn't have it installed, but test installed and get same result. > > > removed it and following works w/o it, but w3m must be configured to > > > display graphical. I will have to look to see where, don't remember, too > > > old, been too long. > > > > > for me: w3m display.jpg will display image display.jpg > > > > > ok found it > > > Display embedded graphics > > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE http://w3m.sourceforge.net > > > > > ~/.w3m/config > > > user defined configuration file; overrides /etc/w3m/config > > > > > > My apologies, I do not understand. Where do I put this? In my mailcap? > > FWIW, I tried: > > > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE test.png > > > > and that opens gpicview for me. > > > > I copied over the system config /etc/w3m/config to /.w3m/config > > > > and added > > ext_image_viewer=0 > > > > and then I get the inline images. However, how to do this inside mutt does > > not seem to work. > > > > I have the following in my .mailcap: > > > > auto_view image/* > > image/*;w3m %s; copiousoutput > > > > But what i get is a bunch of text for the image file that I am trying to > > display. > > > > Thanks in advance again! > > > > > I have: > > > text/html; w3m -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; > > needsterminal > > > And what do you do for inline display of images? Btw, I have to say that w3m > works pretty well on most of the stuff sent by html. I wonder if I could > make it the default display for e-mails that come in html. I don't use w3m, that is not w3m's intended usage use something to display images, such as: image/jpg;/usr/bin/display --auto-orient %s -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)
* mutt users list [12-04-20 11:44]: > > Hi, > > Thanks very much! > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 10:24:44 AM CST, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: * mutt users list > > [12-04-20 11:07]: > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks! > > > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:56:23 AM CST, Dave Woodfall > > wrote: > > > > >> On 04/12/20 05:30, Mutt Users put forth the > > >>proposition: > > >> Hi, > > >> If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file test.png > > >> inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window (inside xterm). > > >> How do I do this? > > >> I tried putting: > > >> image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output > > >> However this does not work and gives me the options of w3m in the mutt > > >> window. How can I use this? > > snipped > > > I didn't have it installed, but test installed and get same result. removed > > it and following works w/o it, but w3m must be configured to display > > graphical. I will have to look to see where, don't remember, too old, been > > too long. > > > for me: w3m display.jpg will display image display.jpg > > > ok found it > > Display embedded graphics > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE http://w3m.sourceforge.net > > > ~/.w3m/config > > user defined configuration file; overrides /etc/w3m/config > > > My apologies, I do not understand. Where do I put this? In my mailcap? FWIW, > I tried: > > $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE test.png > > and that opens gpicview for me. > > I copied over the system config /etc/w3m/config to /.w3m/config > > and added > ext_image_viewer=0 > > and then I get the inline images. However, how to do this inside mutt does > not seem to work. > > I have the following in my .mailcap: > > auto_view image/* > image/*;w3m %s; copiousoutput > > But what i get is a bunch of text for the image file that I am trying to > display. > > Thanks in advance again! I have: text/html; w3m -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)
* mutt users list [12-04-20 11:07]: > > Hi, > > Thanks! > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:56:23 AM CST, Dave Woodfall > wrote: > > >> On 04/12/20 05:30, Mutt Users put forth the > >>proposition: > >> Hi, > >> If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file test.png > >> inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window (inside xterm). > >> How do I do this? > >> I tried putting: > >> image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output > >> However this does not work and gives me the options of w3m in the mutt > >> window. How can I use this? > > >I don't have a solution offhand, but I'd like to let you know thatw3m's > >image viewer can be invoked directly without going via w3m > first. > > > It is installed in your distro's libexec directory, which in mine > > (slackware) is: > > >/usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay > > >Doing a `locate w3mimgdisplay' should find it. > > Interesting and thanks! Mine is also at the same location: > > $ locate w3mimgdisplay > /usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay > > However > > $ /usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay test.png > > appears to do nothing. The prompt just comes back. I didn't have it installed, but test installed and get same result. removed it and following works w/o it, but w3m must be configured to display graphical. I will have to look to see where, don't remember, too old, been too long. for me: w3m display.jpg will display image display.jpg ok found it Display embedded graphics $ w3m -o auto_image=TRUE http://w3m.sourceforge.net ~/.w3m/config user defined configuration file; overrides /etc/w3m/config -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)
* mutt users list [12-04-20 11:07]: > > Hi, > > Thanks! > > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:56:23 AM CST, Dave Woodfall > wrote: > > >> On 04/12/20 05:30, Mutt Users put forth the > >>proposition: > >> Hi, > >> If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file test.png > >> inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window (inside xterm). > >> How do I do this? > >> I tried putting: > >> image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output > >> However this does not work and gives me the options of w3m in the mutt > >> window. How can I use this? > > >I don't have a solution offhand, but I'd like to let you know thatw3m's > >image viewer can be invoked directly without going via w3m > first. > > > It is installed in your distro's libexec directory, which in mine > > (slackware) is: > > >/usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay > > >Doing a `locate w3mimgdisplay' should find it. > > Interesting and thanks! Mine is also at the same location: > > $ locate w3mimgdisplay > /usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay > > However > > $ /usr/libexec/w3m/w3mimgdisplay test.png > > appears to do nothing. The prompt just comes back. I didn't have it installed, but test installed and get same result. removed it and following works w/o it, but w3m must be configured to display graphical. I will have to look to see where, don't remember, too old, been too long. for me: w3m display.jpg will display image display.jpg -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: A question about mairix, I'm sure there are users here
* Chris Green [11-26-20 10:08]: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 02:26:40PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 08:13:43AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Chris Green [11-26-20 07:13]: > > > > I use mairix to search my mail. > > > > > > > > I'm sure I've asked this question before but it was a *long* time ago > > > > and I can't remember or find the answer. > > > > > > > > When mairix has found a message with a given string/pattern in it how > > > > can I tell *where* it found it? I thought it put something in the > > > > headers somewhere but I can't see anything there now. I moved from > > > > mbox to maildir (fairly) recently, is this something I have lost in > > > > the move perhaps? > > > > > > after invoking mairix, the result(s) will display in the second line of > > > the header: X-source-folder: > > > the line is added by mairix. > > > > > > the first header line is also added: > > > From mairix@mairix Mon Jan 1 12:34:56 1970 > > > and must be altered if one is recovering a missing post and adding it to > > > an mbox collection such as ~/mail/mutt > > > > > > I use mbox and mairir (long time). > > > > > Thanks Patrick, I think it was maybe you that answered me the previous > > time I asked the question! :-) > > > > However, it would appear that with maildir folders it doesn't work. > > Reading the mairix man page it says that the messages found by mairix > > are symbolic links when using maildir so I don't suppose mairix can > > add that X-source-folder: header because it doesn't create a new copy > > of the message. > > > > Well I suppose I'll have to live with it - or go back to mbox. > > > I've found a workaround, if you specify mairix's *output* format as > mbox using the mformat setting in ~/.mairixrc then the X-source-folder > does get added. The rest of one's mail remains in maildir format of > course. persistence is some cases is a blessing :) I am perhaps remiss in remaining with mbox, just no compelling reason to switch ... gudday -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: A question about mairix, I'm sure there are users here
* Chris Green [11-26-20 07:13]: > I use mairix to search my mail. > > I'm sure I've asked this question before but it was a *long* time ago > and I can't remember or find the answer. > > When mairix has found a message with a given string/pattern in it how > can I tell *where* it found it? I thought it put something in the > headers somewhere but I can't see anything there now. I moved from > mbox to maildir (fairly) recently, is this something I have lost in > the move perhaps? after invoking mairix, the result(s) will display in the second line of the header: X-source-folder: the line is added by mairix. the first header line is also added: From mairix@mairix Mon Jan 1 12:34:56 1970 and must be altered if one is recovering a missing post and adding it to an mbox collection such as ~/mail/mutt I use mbox and mairir (long time). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x
* tech-lists [11-25-20 17:55]: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:43:21PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > possibly reinstall strace. for my openSUSE Tumbleweed system I show: > > strace-5.9-1.1.x86_64 > > > > your version is quite old and version number appear to reflect the kernel > > version. what kernel are you running, 4.5.x ?? > > I'm using freebsd-current sorry, that is not a version, and I am not running freebsd. how would I know what that equates to? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x
* tech-lists [11-25-20 17:36]: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:01:03AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > A way to check this would be to have another window open running: > > > >strace -p pid-of-idle-mutt-process > > > > Get that ready. Wait for idleness. Resume. See where it stalls. > > > > If that is hard to observe interactively, strace has options for > > including timestamps in the trace output, you could do the resume and > > then scroll back looking for the stall in the timestamps. > > Unfortunately strace (do you mean devel/strace) appears to be broken: > > root@rpi4:/usr/ports/devel/strace# make > ===> strace-4.5.18_1 is marked as broken: Uses procfs-based process > debugging. > *** Error code 1 > > Is there an equivalent tool? possibly reinstall strace. for my openSUSE Tumbleweed system I show: strace-5.9-1.1.x86_64 your version is quite old and version number appear to reflect the kernel version. what kernel are you running, 4.5.x ?? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: toggle thread
* mutt users list [11-09-20 11:43]: > Hi, > > I am looking around for some keystroke setting that will make it is possible > to toggle between threaded and unthreaded views of the message list. Is this > possible? change to "index view" and key in "O" which provides sorting criteria for the "index view". there also exists a very fine manual. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: is it possible to have two options for viewing html mail?
* mutt users list [10-24-20 16:54]:
> Lots of people send me mail in HTML format (even though I do not like
> it). I have the following set up in my .mailcap:
>
> text/html; w3m -I %{charset} -T text/html; copiousoutput
>
> so it converts things using w3m more or less okay, however, I am
> wondering is it possible to have an option for viewing using
> midori/firefox for the cases where w3m is not enough?
using mutt, copy the html portion to an xternal file and open that ile
with
I copy to: mutt.html
macro attach ,x "|rm -f /mnt/ExT4/mutt.html"":unset \
wait_key\n;/mnt/ExT4/mutt.html""|chmod a+r \
/mnt/ExT4/mutt.html"
--
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Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?
* Chris Green [09-30-20 09:18]: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your > > >> home-grown MDA, that you could not already do with procmail, which > > >> (if you're on a Linux system at least) your mail system is most > > >> likely already using to deliver your mail? > > > > > > It's all driven from one text file so that when I subscribe to a new > > > mailing list all I have to do is add an entry to that file. No > > > changing of procmail rules, no additions to muttrc. I have attached > > > the filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as > > > well as I can here. [..] > > > > > > # Mail filterfile, used to generate Mutt aliases and for filtering > > > # mail into mailboxes, it's used by:- > > > # getAliases.py - generates mutt aliases for the mailing lists > > > # getLists.py - generates list names for mutt 'subscribe' and > > > # 'lists' commands > > > # filter.py - called by .forward, delivers mail to appropriate > > > # mail box > > > > Nice! If you would be willing to publish/share the Python files (under > > a Free Software license), that would be great :) > > > Absolutely no problem, is there a place to put them on mutt.org? I've > attached them here anyway. I've recently upgraded them to Python 3 > and, of course, to maildir. If anyone wants the mbox versions I could > probably provide them as I keep the code in mercurial. I would appreciate seeing the mbox version(s). tks -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Going GUI...er
* Fred Smith [04-04-20 14:32]: [...] > When God invented email, He intended that it be plain text! :) > As such, rich-text/html/images in email is the spawn of the devil. :) :) amen, good only for advertising and junk mail but now w/o the cost of a stamp. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Going GUI...er
* Vegard Svanberg [01-01-70 12:34]: [...] > However, I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various > tricks to deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments), > calendar invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send. [...] I run mutt on my server inside a tmux (or screen) session and access by ssh to the tmux session. For html, I pipe the html attachment to a file on my server and access it via what-ever browser is available. If photos are attached, I can view them directly from mutt since I forward X in ssh. It does require running a web server, which I do anyway. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: clearing flags on all mails in a mailbox?
* Marty Buchaus [01-23-20 17:20]: > Default mapping woudl be > > Tag the messages you want to work on. > > then hit ; to act on all tagged messages > > then W you should see Clear flag? (D/N/O/r/*/!): > > > if you hit w it would be the reverse (set flag) > > Marty > > On 01/21/20 11:14 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Patrick Shanahan [01-21-20 11:09]: > > > * Fred Smith [01-21-20 10:59]: > > > > I've got a mailbox with quite a few msgs in it, some I've never read but > > > > don't want to delete. All those now have a status flag of "O", so if I > > > > enter that mailbox when there are no "N" messages in it, mutt goes to > > > > the > > > > first "O" mail. > > > > One way I can think of to solve this is to clear all the flags, since in > > > > this case I don't care aobut the flags value. > > > > It looks as if Mutt has facilities that could be used for that, but I > > > > haven't figured out how to apply them. > > > > Can someone show me how to do that? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > tag all of the "O" flagged msgs > > > "T" will tag a pattern, invoke in directory view, capitol T > > > pattern would be: ~O > > > invoke action "W" on tagged, :W > > > "W" clears flag > > > issue clear-flag for the tagged msgs > > two lines beginning with "invoke action" s/b belowe "issue clear-flag" ... > > clear as muddd :) and besides, why private mail me and also post to the list and I wasn't even the OP. But I guess that is how a "linux engineer" would address a problem. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: clearing flags on all mails in a mailbox?
* Patrick Shanahan [01-21-20 11:09]: > * Fred Smith [01-21-20 10:59]: > > Hi! > > > > I've got a mailbox with quite a few msgs in it, some I've never read but > > don't want to delete. All those now have a status flag of "O", so if I > > enter that mailbox when there are no "N" messages in it, mutt goes to the > > first "O" mail. > > > > One way I can think of to solve this is to clear all the flags, since in > > this case I don't care aobut the flags value. > > > > It looks as if Mutt has facilities that could be used for that, but I > > haven't figured out how to apply them. > > > > Can someone show me how to do that? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > tag all of the "O" flagged msgs > "T" will tag a pattern, invoke in directory view, capitol T > pattern would be: ~O > invoke action "W" on tagged, :W > "W" clears flag > > issue clear-flag for the tagged msgs two lines beginning with "invoke action" s/b belowe "issue clear-flag" ... clear as muddd :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: clearing flags on all mails in a mailbox?
* Fred Smith [01-21-20 10:59]: > Hi! > > I've got a mailbox with quite a few msgs in it, some I've never read but > don't want to delete. All those now have a status flag of "O", so if I > enter that mailbox when there are no "N" messages in it, mutt goes to the > first "O" mail. > > One way I can think of to solve this is to clear all the flags, since in > this case I don't care aobut the flags value. > > It looks as if Mutt has facilities that could be used for that, but I > haven't figured out how to apply them. > > Can someone show me how to do that? > > Thanks in advance. tag all of the "O" flagged msgs "T" will tag a pattern, invoke in directory view, capitol T pattern would be: ~O invoke action "W" on tagged, :W "W" clears flag issue clear-flag for the tagged msgs -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Why would mutt be slow changing mbox when run over ssh?
* Patrick Shanahan [12-31-19 08:47]: > * Chris Green [12-31-19 08:42]: > > I run mutt via an ssh connection, i.e. I connect from a terminal > > window in my laptop (running xubuntu 19.04) to my desktop machine > > (running xubuntu 19.10) using ssh and then run mutt. > > > > For some reason changing from one mbox to another is slow when I do > > this, the ssh connection is fast, nothing else slows down and moving > > around within the mbox is snappy enough, it's just closing one mbox > > and opening the next that's slow. Doing exactly the same thing > > directly in a terminal window on my desktop machine doesn't show the > > same slowness. By 'slow' I mean a noticeable delay, probably of the > > order of a second or two. > > open wireshark and watch your ssh connection. maybe you will get some > clues. fwiw: I never access mutt directly, but run it on my server inside a tmux (similar to screen) session and cannot remember ever experiencing what you describe. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Why would mutt be slow changing mbox when run over ssh?
* Chris Green [12-31-19 08:42]: > I run mutt via an ssh connection, i.e. I connect from a terminal > window in my laptop (running xubuntu 19.04) to my desktop machine > (running xubuntu 19.10) using ssh and then run mutt. > > For some reason changing from one mbox to another is slow when I do > this, the ssh connection is fast, nothing else slows down and moving > around within the mbox is snappy enough, it's just closing one mbox > and opening the next that's slow. Doing exactly the same thing > directly in a terminal window on my desktop machine doesn't show the > same slowness. By 'slow' I mean a noticeable delay, probably of the > order of a second or two. open wireshark and watch your ssh connection. maybe you will get some clues. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: large IMAP mailboxes (OutLook)
* Matthias Apitz [11-12-19 15:24]: > > Hello, > > I'm using mutt as well to read/answer mails in my company mail Exchange > server using IMAP/SMTP. This works mostly fine and as expected. The only > problem is my large INBOX there, some 2000 mails. On any start or > connect to the INBOX, mutt fetches all headers to present the list. > There is no caching of the mails in any database and update the cached > information off-line. > > >From my Ubuntu smartphone I use Dekko as MUA and this has some daemon in > the background and a database of the cached headers. I.e. its start is > fast, while the start of mut takes 2-3 minutes fetching the header. > > Any ideas how to address this? mutt has header_cache, man muttrc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* raf [11-03-19 18:23]: > Derek Martin wrote: > > > TBH most of the time, if I really need to see what's in an HTML mail, > > I just bounce it to gmail. But sometimes that doesn't work either due > > to DNS-based spam prevention. > > Forwarding the email as an attachment rather than bouncing it should solve > that. If I wish to view an html email that w3m fails to render satisfactory, I copy the html portion to a particular location with a key combo/mutt-macro and open it with firefox or waterfox or seamonkey or ... I do not post html, even from gmail. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Mark H. Wood [11-03-19 07:58]: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:31:29PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > > > > > […] virtually all of the people who use mutt either as their only > > > email client or along with others, chose mutt because of its > > > simplicity. > > > > People who want a simple text mail client will use Alpine or similar. > > Mutt's possibly the most “complicated” text MUA. > > > > I don't use mutt because of its “simplicity”, I use it because of its > > power and flexibility. > > Yes. There is simple and then there is simple. I choose Mutt because > I can adjust it to be simple in the ways I want it to be simple, and > sophisticated in the ways I want it to be sophisticated. That exacts > a cost in configuration complexity which I'm quite willing to pay. [...] > What it boils down to is that Mutt is a tool rather than an appliance, > and I prefer tools. An appliance does the work for me, the same way > it does it for everyone else; a tool enhances my ability to do the work > using my skills and expressing my intent. thankyou. you have expressed most elegantly my feelings and adjustments to utilize mutt to read and send email over the last +20 years and I hope another 20 or so. and we are neighbors and I used to photograph for IUPUI men's soccer. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Patrick Shanahan [10-30-19 10:42]: > * Sean Greenslade [10-30-19 10:37]: > > On October 30, 2019 5:29:01 AM PDT, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > >* Mark H. Wood [10-30-19 08:26]: > > >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:37:43PM +1300, martin f krafft wrote: > > >> >I'd love to see some statistics about the age of mutt users. > > >> > > >> 62 > > > > > >78 > > > > Not sure if these are guesses at the average or reported data points. If > > it's the latter, I'll offer my own: > > > > 26 > > since the request was rather non-specific and limited to only those > interested in reading the thread, not sure it makes any difference. > almost like polling results related by politicians. s/request /request as stated/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Sean Greenslade [10-30-19 10:37]: > On October 30, 2019 5:29:01 AM PDT, Patrick Shanahan > wrote: > >* Mark H. Wood [10-30-19 08:26]: > >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:37:43PM +1300, martin f krafft wrote: > >> >I'd love to see some statistics about the age of mutt users. > >> > >> 62 > > > >78 > > Not sure if these are guesses at the average or reported data points. If > it's the latter, I'll offer my own: > > 26 since the request was rather non-specific and limited to only those interested in reading the thread, not sure it makes any difference. almost like polling results related by politicians. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Mark H. Wood [10-30-19 08:26]: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:37:43PM +1300, martin f krafft wrote: > >I'd love to see some statistics about the age of mutt users. > > 62 78 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Grant Edwards [10-29-19 18:27]: > On 2019-10-29, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Grant Edwards [10-29-19 13:10]: > > > >> Muttdown (a "sendmail" filter) which creates mutlipart alternative > >> html/text messages is the only reason I've been able to continue to > >> use mutt for the past 5-6 years. About 90% of the people to whom I > >> send email can't deal with plaintext only. The display of plaintext is > >> butchered horribly by Outlook, and using plaintext-only makes me look > >> incompetent because I can't send an easy-to-read email (the recipient > >> has to save it as a text file and open it with notepad++ in a fixed > >> font for it to be readable). > > > > so you cater to people who have no idea, and cannot be bothered. > > Yep. If you're intent is to communicate with other poeple, you have > to use a medium and language understood by them. Otherwise you're > just singing in the shower. > > I suppose I could limit my social and professional interaction > strictly to other mutt users. Somebody should try that and let me > know how it goes... fwiw, I do not have that problem and continually communicate with others and *still* am using mutt for nearly 20 years. perhaps the problem is in the chair in front of your keyboard. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt
* Grant Edwards [10-29-19 13:10]: > On 2019-10-28, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 04:50:40p. m. -0500, Derek Martin > > escribió: > > > >> > FWIW, I (as a mutt user for 15++ years) do not need this. Thanks > >> > >> Perhaps not, but the fact that it keeps coming up here is pretty clear > >> indication that it's a feature that would be useful to a lot of > >> people... > > > > Well, do you speak for you or for a 'lot of people'? Who they are? > > Muttdown (a "sendmail" filter) which creates mutlipart alternative > html/text messages is the only reason I've been able to continue to > use mutt for the past 5-6 years. About 90% of the people to whom I > send email can't deal with plaintext only. The display of plaintext is > butchered horribly by Outlook, and using plaintext-only makes me look > incompetent because I can't send an easy-to-read email (the recipient > has to save it as a text file and open it with notepad++ in a fixed > font for it to be readable). so you cater to people who have no idea, and cannot be bothered. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Alternate html and text plain avoinding message like "your mailreader dont support html-mail"
* Marcelo Laia [09-08-19 10:22]:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to read multpart (html and alternative text together) text/plain
> first.
>
> So, I set muttrc as follow:
>
> .mutt/muttrc
> auto_view text/html
> alternative_order text/plain text/html
>
> and mailcap as:
> .mutt/mailcap
> text/html; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=gbk -assume_local_charset=gbk /
> -assume_unrec_charset=gbk -display_charset=utf8 -dump -force_html '%s'; /
> description="HTML Text"; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
>
> This is ok and mutt read text plain first when message have only text plain or
> both, html end text plain.
>
> However, some messages have html and a single and sort alternate text plain
> said "your mailreader don't support html message". in this case, I need to
> hint
> "v" and select alternate html and hint enter to read the message.
>
> If I change muttrc to:
>
> .mutt/muttrc
> auto_view text/html
> alternative_order text/html text/plain
>
> mutt will display html text for all multpart mail, ignoring text plain.
>
> There are some alternative to tell mutt to read first text plain only if it is
> the full message? Ignoring text plain messages if it is short like "your
> mailreader don't support html message"?
I have following for quite some years and do not recall ever seeing "don't
support html":
mailcap:
text/html; w3m -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html;
needsterminal
text/html; w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
.muttrc:
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html text
application/postscript image/*
auto_view text/richtext text/html text/x-sgml text/x-vcard text/x-sh \
text/x-csrc application/x-tex \
application/x-dvi applicatoin/x-gzip-dvi application/x-gzip \
application/x-gunzip application/x-cpio application/x-gtar \
application/x-tar application/x-tar-gz application/x-rar-compressed \
application/x-zip-compressed application/zip application/x-csh \
application/x-sh application/x-script application/x-shellscript \
application/x-latex application/x-tex application/x-shar \
application/x-troff application/x-troff-man application/x-troff-me \
application/x-pgp-message application/msword \
application/ms-tnef application/ms-word application/rtf \
application/octet-stream application/x-tcl application/x-perl \
application/x-debian-package message/partial \
application/pdf application/jpeg
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Re: Preferred way to get imap emails
* Erik Christiansen [07-28-19 04:06]: > On 28.07.19 12:21, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > On 27Jul2019 22:40, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 11:41:52AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > I still use fetchmail and with imap accounts including google. and > > > > have no problem. > > > > > > > Probably I'll try it again. This was my favourite tool. But then I check > > > that there is no change in the repository since very long. I was worried > > > if this is still maintained or not. > > > > Maybe it is stable :-) > > Indeed, with all of us using it happy and content. > > My use of fetchmail and procmail differs from Matthias' only in the > omission of spamassassin, and having procmail deliver to about ten > inboxes, one for each list, one for family, and the default. Mutt then > presents them in the priority order I have selected, so that I first see what > I need to see, without having to wade through two thousand mails in one > nightmare jungle after a fortnight out on the farm. (I am at a loss to > comprehend how it is possible to deal with one chaotic dump, especially > without having a heart attack or failing to respond to important mail, > lost in the flood.) > > Instead of spamassassin, I've made do with a bunch of procmail recipes, > which only let about one spam per week through. Another recipe weeds a > high traffic list, dumping stuff that won't interest me. I do the same for years except I utilize spamassassin. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Preferred way to get imap emails
* Pankaj Jangid [07-27-19 11:29]: > Hi, > > I have very recently switched back to mutt. My 1st question is - > is the preferred way to get imap emails in the mutt inbox. 12 years back > I used to fetch everything using fetchmail, using POP3. But now I have a > Gmail account and Gmail is mostly optimised for IMAP usage. IMAP works > flawlessly on mobile also. Back then we used POP3 because internet > bandwidth was a big issue. > > I read about offlineimap. Tried to use it on my machine. But it stops > fetching email when the system goes into sleep. Without restarting > offlineimap service it doesn't work. And lately it has started giving > errors also while fetching from Gmail. > > I tried to configure mutt with imap settings. It is functionally working > fine but each email is separately downloaded when I open it. I have > configured cache so it doesn't happen everytime with the same email. My > 2nd question is - is there a way to pre-fetch all the emails in inbox. I still use fetchmail and with imap accounts including google. and have no problem. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Compiling a newer version than the latest .deb package
* Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 19:43]: > On 07Jun2019 07:37, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]: > > > It does look that way. I left procmail because I disliked its rule > > > syntax, > > > its totally regexp based matching system (ok for subject lines, ghastly > > > for > > > email addresses) and the performance cost incurred by it rereading the > > > filter files from scratch on every message processed. I've got about 2000 > > > filing rules myself - procmail starts to scale badly for that. > > > > > > adjust the order of your rules so that the most likely matchs appear at > > the top of the rc file > > > > I'm aware of that technique. I expect to multifile my email; almost all my > rules are not match-and-stop, they're match-and-continue. I do have some > critical match-and-stop rules at the front, but they are few. > > As an example, an email to me personally and also CCed to a list needs to > land in my inbox (because it is for my attention) but also in the mailing > list folder (for archiving and general well filedness). So, match and > continue. and I abhor receiving duplicate mail. I read a list and communicate there and notice email there. personal mail goes to my inbox, list mail is not personal and list communication should normally be conducted there. be we all have different expectations and utilize linux to achieve them. :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Compiling a newer version than the latest .deb package
* Patrick Shanahan [06-07-19 07:38]: > * Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]: > [...] > > How's fetchmail run by your system? Cron? Something else? > > not that fetchmail has a daemon, "fetchmail -d 150" runs every 150 > seconds. s/not/note -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Compiling a newer version than the latest .deb package
* Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]:
[...]
> How's fetchmail run by your system? Cron? Something else?
not that fetchmail has a daemon, "fetchmail -d 150" runs every 150
seconds.
[...]
> It does look that way. I left procmail because I disliked its rule syntax,
> its totally regexp based matching system (ok for subject lines, ghastly for
> email addresses) and the performance cost incurred by it rereading the
> filter files from scratch on every message processed. I've got about 2000
> filing rules myself - procmail starts to scale badly for that.
adjust the order of your rules so that the most likely matchs appear at
the top of the rc file
{...]
> That said, many people use procmail with little apparent pain.
for many years. :)
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Re: delete-thread key combination?
* Jude DaShiell [05-22-19 18:27]: > that's listed as ^D. Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type > upper-case D? the carat, "^" is normally and indication to use the "control" key, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Attachment weirdness
* jeremy bentham [05-13-19 15:41]: > I used xwd to take a screen dump, then imagemagick to trim and > save it as a gif. > > When I tried to attach it to a message, mutt decided it was > "audio/basic", as it did with a jpeg of the same image. > > png gave me "image/png" so I did, finally, get what I > wanted. But the file, of course, is a lot bigger than a gif. > > Is this just the result of my ancient copy of mutt (1.5.21)? > (The other software is also not the Latest'n'Greatest). Or is > there something I can fix? iianm, mutt does not "decide" the file-type, mime does. you need to adjust your mime settings. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: How do I set up a gmail account?
* Luciano ES [05-07-19 22:57]: [...] > So I tried a command: > > :imap-fetch-mail > > and mutt tells me: > > imap-fetch-mail: unknown command > > > Then I try > > :fetch-mail > > and mutt tells me: > > fetch-mail: unknown command > > What am I doing wrong? linux does not correct your typing, you must use the installed commands. fetch-mail is not the same as fetchmail and I have no idea where you got "imap-fetch-mail". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore
* Luciano ES [05-07-19 21:28]:
> I believe the problem has been fixed, though I don't really understand
> why... yet. I'll have to catch up with a lot of reading before I can
> really understand.
>
> I took a new approach and attacked my muttrc file rather than the
> inbox folder. I deleted about half of all lines in it and launched
> mutt and... Problem gone!
>
> So I restored all lines and repeated the elimination process a few
> times until I zeroed in on one line:
>
> set folder="$HOME/Mail/inbox"
>
> When that one line is commented out, the problem disappears.
>
> Please tell me why if you feel like it. Who knows why I even added
> it in the first place. Probably copied from some .muttrc file shared
> and spotted in the wild.
you can answer yourself, look at:
ls -la ~/ |grep -i mail
ls -la ~/{M,m}ail |grep -i inbox
guessing, you actually have ~/Mail/Inbox or
~/mail/Inbox or
~/Mail/inbox
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Re: Can I make mutt see two destination addresses as just one?
* Chris Green [03-10-19 16:34]: > I belong to a mailing list where *sometimes* messages appear to come > from two similar addresses, the headers have a To: line as follows:- > > To: ix...@ixiemaster.ixion.org.uk, ix...@ixion.org.uk > > ... and various 'List' headers as follows:- > > List-Id: A group of bikers chatting down the pub > > List-Post: <mailto:ix...@ixiemaster.ixion.org.uk> > > When I L[ist Reply] the reply gets sent to both > ix...@ixiemaster.ixion.org.uk *and* ix...@ixion.org.uk. Is there any > way I can configure mutt to send to only one of these? (I can't just > always ignore one of them as sometimes only ix...@ixion.org.uk appears > as the list address). you could set a "my_hdr" to send to only one of the address you could craft a procmail recipe to alter the "To: ..." to only one address -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Openning attach - denied permission
* Marcelo Laia [01-18-19 07:07]: > Hi, > > I starting got a "Not possible to open the file > "file:///home/user/.mutt/temp/doc2.pdf”." > > "File open Error home/user/.mutt/temp/doc2.pdf: permission denied. > > What is the workaround? ls -la ~/.mutt/temp/doc2.pdf ls -lad ~/.mutt/temp to check permissions as the error message says *you* don't have permission to see the file -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Hide a message?
* Kurt Hackenberg [12-13-18 12:40]: > On 12/13/18 11:15 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > That doesn't happen in Maildir storage. Is it reasonable to > > > switch from mbox to maildir? > > > > An interesting idea! > > In my opinion, it's always a good idea to convert from mbox to something > that works better. On Unix systems, maildir is usually a good choice. and that is *your* opinion and quite a few others. but there are still many of us who have been around quite some time and still prefer/utilize mbox. linux is *still* about choice even when someone decides that choice is wrong. mbox still serves my needs and has never failed me. why would I want to invest time and effort to change to something (anything) else? maildir does not "work better" as I can see. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: segfault causes system freeze
* steve [11-20-18 06:42]: > Hi There, > > I have a new box for about two months and it appears that each time mutt > segfaults, the console freezes and I have to hard stop the machine. Here > is what I have in /var/log/kernel.log: > > Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303276] mutt[13832]: segfault at 8 ip > 55a9d9996c68 sp 7fff5e7f47c0 error 4 in mutt[55a9d9963000+115000] > Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303284] Code: e1 00 01 41 89 cb 0f 84 c6 > 00 00 00 8b 4a 2c 03 8a 90 00 00 00 48 63 52 1c 39 d1 0f 8e cc 00 00 00 45 8b > 54 92 fc 49 8b 58 68 <48> 8b 53 08 48 85 d2 75 26 eb 3d 0f 1f 44 00 00 44 3b > 51 38 41 0f > > I don't understand the above message. > > > I'm using NeoMutt 20170113 (1.7.2) from Debian stretch. > > What should I do/try? contact the providers of neomutt as it is a different project than mutt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mutt -> Compose -> Some kind of alert?
* Alex Sa <097115+m...@gmail.com> [10-04-18 22:44]: > Hi! > > > When replying to some certain emails, I usually have to add other > recipients to the list. But unfortunately, I often forget to do so. > > Thus, my question: is it possible that after leaving the editor and > arriving at Mutt's Compose section (where you can actually add someone > with t or c hotkeys), there would appear some kind of additional message > in the status line? Or [dependent on the recipients list] some script > could be launched? Or any other idea that jumps to you? Something with > the hooks may be? (Not that I know much about them.) > > Would be grateful for any hint here :) > > (I already tried to play with the editor itself, to launch an external > script when leaving it. But it gets very noisy -- and I need this kind > of reminder only if contacting certain people, actually, and I can't add > them blindly or always, too). you can add recipients (to "t", copy "c" and bcc "b") after leaving the editor but before sending the msg. reading the very fine manual might help *and* there is a help screen after leaving the editor. if you have already send the message, you can resend an ammended msg to the missing recipients. if that doesn't answer your question, I don't understand as you have presented it. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Hardware cursor and console colours resetting when starting mutt
* David Woodfall [09-29-18 22:41]: > On Saturday 29 September 2018 22:16, > Patrick Shanahan put forth the proposition: > > * David Woodfall [09-29-18 19:51]: > > > On Saturday 29 September 2018 23:33, > > > Dave Woodfall put forth the proposition: > > > > On Sunday 30 September 2018 08:17, > > > > Cameron Simpson put forth the proposition: > > > > > On 28Sep2018 23:06, David Woodfall wrote: > > > > > > On Friday 28 September 2018 17:44, > > > > > > Patrick Shanahan put forth the proposition: > > > > > > > * David Woodfall [09-28-18 17:37]: > > > > > > > > In the (framebuffer) console I've used the standard escape > > > > > > > > codes to > > > > > > > > set a small 1/3 block cursor to make it more visible, and > > > > > > > > softened > > > > > > > > the colours to not be so stark. They were a bit of a headache > > > > > > > > before, and the normal cursor is very hard to see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, when I start mutt everything resets back to the > > > > > > > > defaults. I only see a couple of settings regarding the > > > > > > > > cursor, but > > > > > > > > they don't seem to help. I've tried running with a -F > > > > > > > > /dev/null so > > > > > > > > it doesn't seem to be something in my config. Is there any way > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > avoiding this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In screen it's not so bad, but the cursor resets even just > > > > > > > > switching > > > > > > > > to the window where mutt is running. The colours remain as > > > > > > > > they were > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The cursor code I use is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > printf '\e[?3c' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your chosen terminal is undoubted the cause. I run a tmux > > > > > > > session on my > > > > > > > server and attach to it remotely usually via yakuake(konsole) but > > > > > > > have not > > > > > > > made any effort to change the cursor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have pretty well removed mutt from the equasion using "-F > > > > > > > /dev/null". > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using the vanilla linux console (i.e. no X and 16 colours) plus > > > > > > screen. > > > > > > Don't really have a lot of choice. > > > > > > > > > > Does the behaviour persist if you don't use screen? I'm wondering if > > > > > screen's terminal management is > > > > > reseting your cursor change. > > > > > > > > > > Conversely, does the behaviour occur if you use screen but don't use > > > > > mutt (but _do_ use some other curses > > > > > programme like vim inside screen)? > > > > > > > > > > Just trying to isolate where the reset is coming from. And I don't > > > > > have a convenient linux framebuffer > > > > > console to test against (though I should set one up). > > > > > > > > > > When we know where the reset comes from maybe we can devise a > > > > > workaround. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Cameron Simpson > > > > > > > > It's worse without screen: > > > > > > > > console: both colours and cursor reset > > > > screen: only cursor resets > > > > > > > > Screen on its own is fine with my cursor and colours. I'm using > > > > screen 99% of the time. > > > > > > > > Vim also resets the cursor, but the colours are fine, both in and out > > > > of screen. > > > > > > A little more info on other applications: lynx and elinks seem to > > > work fine too. So far only mutt and vim seem to reset things, > > > although I can set an autocmd in vim to set the cursor back to mine > > > when it exits. I guess that is probably beyond the scope of an email > > > client though. > > > > you could alias or script mutt to reset the cursor back when exiting mutt, > > similarly to your vim autocmd > > I tend to leave it running though. My new mail command sends a BEL so > that screen picks it up and shows it while I'm working in another > window. and how does that make a difference? it would still correctly set your cursor when ever you did decide to leave mutt. you did say that the only remaining problem was the cursor after leaving mutt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Hardware cursor and console colours resetting when starting mutt
* David Woodfall [09-29-18 19:51]: > On Saturday 29 September 2018 23:33, > Dave Woodfall put forth the proposition: > > On Sunday 30 September 2018 08:17, > > Cameron Simpson put forth the proposition: > > > On 28Sep2018 23:06, David Woodfall wrote: > > > > On Friday 28 September 2018 17:44, > > > > Patrick Shanahan put forth the proposition: > > > > > * David Woodfall [09-28-18 17:37]: > > > > > > In the (framebuffer) console I've used the standard escape codes to > > > > > > set a small 1/3 block cursor to make it more visible, and softened > > > > > > the colours to not be so stark. They were a bit of a headache > > > > > > before, and the normal cursor is very hard to see. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, when I start mutt everything resets back to the > > > > > > defaults. I only see a couple of settings regarding the cursor, but > > > > > > they don't seem to help. I've tried running with a -F /dev/null so > > > > > > it doesn't seem to be something in my config. Is there any way of > > > > > > avoiding this? > > > > > > > > > > > > In screen it's not so bad, but the cursor resets even just switching > > > > > > to the window where mutt is running. The colours remain as they > > > > > > were > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > The cursor code I use is: > > > > > > > > > > > > printf '\e[?3c' > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > your chosen terminal is undoubted the cause. I run a tmux session on > > > > > my > > > > > server and attach to it remotely usually via yakuake(konsole) but > > > > > have not > > > > > made any effort to change the cursor. > > > > > > > > > > you have pretty well removed mutt from the equasion using "-F > > > > > /dev/null". > > > > > > > > I'm using the vanilla linux console (i.e. no X and 16 colours) plus > > > > screen. > > > > Don't really have a lot of choice. > > > > > > Does the behaviour persist if you don't use screen? I'm wondering if > > > screen's terminal management is > > > reseting your cursor change. > > > > > > Conversely, does the behaviour occur if you use screen but don't use mutt > > > (but _do_ use some other curses > > > programme like vim inside screen)? > > > > > > Just trying to isolate where the reset is coming from. And I don't have a > > > convenient linux framebuffer > > > console to test against (though I should set one up). > > > > > > When we know where the reset comes from maybe we can devise a workaround. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Cameron Simpson > > > > It's worse without screen: > > > > console: both colours and cursor reset > > screen: only cursor resets > > > > Screen on its own is fine with my cursor and colours. I'm using > > screen 99% of the time. > > > > Vim also resets the cursor, but the colours are fine, both in and out > > of screen. > > A little more info on other applications: lynx and elinks seem to > work fine too. So far only mutt and vim seem to reset things, > although I can set an autocmd in vim to set the cursor back to mine > when it exits. I guess that is probably beyond the scope of an email > client though. you could alias or script mutt to reset the cursor back when exiting mutt, similarly to your vim autocmd -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Hardware cursor and console colours resetting when starting mutt
* David Woodfall [09-28-18 17:37]: > Hi > > In the (framebuffer) console I've used the standard escape codes to > set a small 1/3 block cursor to make it more visible, and softened > the colours to not be so stark. They were a bit of a headache > before, and the normal cursor is very hard to see. > > Unfortunately, when I start mutt everything resets back to the > defaults. I only see a couple of settings regarding the cursor, but > they don't seem to help. I've tried running with a -F /dev/null so > it doesn't seem to be something in my config. Is there any way of > avoiding this? > > In screen it's not so bad, but the cursor resets even just switching > to the window where mutt is running. The colours remain as they were > though. > > The cursor code I use is: > > printf '\e[?3c' > > Any ideas? your chosen terminal is undoubted the cause. I run a tmux session on my server and attach to it remotely usually via yakuake(konsole) but have not made any effort to change the cursor. you have pretty well removed mutt from the equasion using "-F /dev/null". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Resolving Disconnect Between New and Unread
* Hunter Jozwiak [08-24-18 14:41]: > Hello, > > I have been using Mutt for a while now, and I am impressed so far. There is > one rather big problem, in that there is a disconnect between new email and > messages that are unread. If I close the client and open it up later and > try to read the many emails I haven't gotten to yet, the unread messages > that were unread before I close the client are no longer new, which is to > be expected, but there is no obvious means of determining whether they are > unread or not. Am I misunderstanding something fundemental here? Are new > messages actually sononymous with unread? If so, how do I resolve this > disconnect? man muttrc unset mark_old perhaps -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: brow.sh terminal html rendering integration?
* Marcelo Laia [07-10-18 12:38]: > A ter, 10/07/2018, 12:46, Patrick Shanahan escreveu: > > > > > have you tried w3m? > > need to enable graphics mode > > > > Please, how is it possible? Enable graphics mode? man w3m look for "Display embedded graphics" I use openSUSE Tumbleweed and there is a package, w3m-inline-image > I use lynx. Are there graphics mode for its, too? you need to look, there is man, and google and help. and there is elinks and links. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: brow.sh terminal html rendering integration?
* Leho Kraav [07-10-18 09:00]: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 08:46:11AM -0400, hy...@lactose.homelinux.net wrote: > > Leho Kraav writes: > > >Yeah I see your point https://github.com/browsh-org/browsh > > > > I suppose you could just set it up in .mailcap as your text/html program. > > > > text/html; browsh %s > > > > But I can't get this to work, so I can't confirm. > > > > Personally, I don't see how you can use the phrase "purely text-based" > > to describe a program that has to run Firefox over an X connection. > > Yeah, my wording was probably off. > > I run FF as my main browser, so this would be interesting to compare. > > Opening HTML attachments in browser is too time-consuming, but current > console browsers rendering is also suboptimal. > > This hybrid brow.sh thing therefore looks quite intriguing. have you tried w3m? need to enable graphics mode -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: brow.sh terminal html rendering integration?
* Patrick Shanahan [07-10-18 06:29]: > * Leho Kraav [07-10-18 06:10]: > > Hi all. Discovered https://www.brow.sh today via GitHub trending repos > > newsletter. > > > > Has anybody here tried integrating it w/ mutt? How would we go about it? > > edit the mailcap file you point to in ~/.muttrc > text/html; browsh -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; > needsterminal > text/html; browsh -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput > > trying now. first mailcap line is not used ?? I am not well versed on mailcap second line needs "-dump" removed, but display is not good. w3m is much better. removed browsh. app need much work, cursor is not shown, active input field is not shown. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: brow.sh terminal html rendering integration?
* Leho Kraav [07-10-18 06:10]: > Hi all. Discovered https://www.brow.sh today via GitHub trending repos > newsletter. > > Has anybody here tried integrating it w/ mutt? How would we go about it? edit the mailcap file you point to in ~/.muttrc text/html; browsh -dump -v -F -T text/html %s; nametemplate=%s.html; needsterminal text/html; browsh -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput trying now. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Bottom posting v top posting
* Akkana Peck [05-16-18 20:03]: [...] > Of course, in this case I could have simply replied to your message > and let tech-lists' quote be >>, but what if you hadn't quoted the > relevant part of the earlier message? You'd really prefer to make > several separate related replies one right after the other on the > same topic, rather than one reply with all your comments? > > Sure, a threaded view will have to choose only one of the messages > being replied to, but it's hard to see that as a major problem. > A lot of mailers don't even follow the references and just group > everything with the same subject into one thread, so it's not > like most people scrutinize the details of the thread tree. a big *plus* for mutt, as all mail clients are not created equal(ly). but mutt is the "head of the class". not that I am biased after 20+ years, thankyou Mr. Elkins -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Bottom posting v top posting
* Akkana Peck [05-13-18 10:35]: > Brian Salter-Duke writes: > > My partner reads gmail on her phone or tablet. [ ... ] > > If I had bottom posting, she would never have read my message, thinking > > that some how she had got her email back again. > > If that's true, you're not trimming enough. The idea isn't to quote > the other person's entire message and put your reply underneath -- > that's annoying on any platform, not just on phones. The idea is to > quote a few lines of context before your reply, and remove the rest. > If someone wants to read the entire previous message, they can use > the list archive. > > In a later message, Brian Salter-Duke writes (after 32 lines of > two levels of unedited quoted material): > > We have had 20 years or so to educate people to bottom post. We have almost > > entirely failed. > > That failed because a few companies that provided the email software > for a high proportion of users, notably Google and Microsoft, > opted to configure their mail software to add a blank line at the > top of the message, thus implying people should put their reply there. > Users took the hint, and that was when everybody started switching > to top-posting. It wasn't nearly as common before the Gmail default > changed; I think Outlook's default had changed quite a bit earlier, > and corporate users had been top-posting for quite a while, but it > wasn't that common for ordinary users or mailing lists until Gmail > changed. > > If everybody used mutt, the top-posting scourge wouldn't have > happened. :-) I really believe it (top-posting, full quoting) began with compuserve and aol, really discouraging time in history. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)
* Kevin J. McCarthy [04-27-18 11:58]: [...] > I always thought $followup_to was a pretty nice feature. While I > sympathize with Matthias, the mischief was the result of > misconfiguration, and Mutt requires nothing if not attention to the > documentation and configuration. > > However, if there is a strong majority of mutt-users subscribers that > agree with $followup_to defaulting to 'no', I'll make the change. I have no problem with the present status and have not in last 15 years or so. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)
* Kevin J. McCarthy [04-27-18 11:47]: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:48:40AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2018-04-27 06:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > Hmm, someone set Reply-To in the headers of your mail too. > > > > That was the list manager, and that's what I call munging. > > I don't believe so. I have reply_goes_to_list set to 'Poster', which is > not supposed to add (or remove) any such header. yes, Mail-Followup-To, is set to list addr and Reply-To is empty. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)
* Matthias Apitz [04-25-18 17:20]: > El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 04:14:52p. m. -0400, Patrick Shanahan > escribió: > > > > Who adds this? mutt by its own? If so, based on what? > > > > > > you do, don't you have man pages for mutt and muttrc? mutt doesn't do > > anything except what *you* tell it to. > > no, mutt does it by its own because the default of 'followup_to' is yes; IMHO > it > should be changed to 'no'. you are but one person and mutt has been around > 20 years and defaults modified to fit a majority. perhaps you can make a compelling case to change the default. but if *you* want it different, you will have to campaign for the change. usually when one begins to use an application, they make an effort to set the parameters to fit their style. you apparently have not felt the necessity to do so, past claiming the application was doing something you did not set it to. which you have found was incorrect. did you look at the defaults before using mutt? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)
* Matthias Apitz [04-25-18 15:08]: > El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 08:56:26p. m. +0200, Matthias Apitz > escribió: > > > El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 02:46:06p. m. -0400, Patrick > > Shanahan escribió: > > > > > then you have someone in your system makeing changes to your posts, > > > > the 'system' is a FreeBSD netbook using mutt+sendmail; > > > > I will Cc me on this mail to see its sent headers; > > The outgoing mails contains a header line: > > Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , mutt-users@mutt.org > > Who adds this? mutt by its own? If so, based on what? you do, don't you have man pages for mutt and muttrc? mutt doesn't do anything except what *you* tell it to. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)
* Matthias Apitz [04-25-18 14:07]: > El día Wednesday, April 25, 2018 a las 10:24:45AM -0700, Will Yardley > escribió: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:28:02AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 05:56:43PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:17:54 CEST, Patrick Shanahan > > > > > which he did and does regularily: > > > > > "Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , > > > > > mutt-users@mutt.org" > > > > > > > > I do not set this in my mutt. > > > > > > Try adding mutt-users to your 'subscribe' lists, instead of 'lists'. > > > > Kind of thread drift, but I actually wonder if Mutt shouldn't move away > > from Mail-Followup-To, as it never became a standard, and is not really > > adopted by (m)any other commonly used mail clients. > > > > w > > > > > $ grep mutt-users ~/.muttrc > send-hook mutt-users@mutt.org 'my_hdr From: Matthias Apitz > ' > send-hook mutt-users@mutt.org 'my_hdr Reply-To: Matthias > Apitz ' > lists asterisk-us...@lists.digium.com biblio-progresis...@yahoogrupos.com.mx > b...@berklix.org commun...@lists.openmoko.org digikam-us...@kde.org > ekiga-devel-l...@gnome.org ekiga-l...@gnome.org > enlightenment-us...@lists.sourceforge.net > fgcuba-muc-inter...@listen.einewelthaus.de freebsd-...@freebsd.org > freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org > freebsd-i...@freebsd.org freebsd-j...@freebsd.org freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org > freebsd-multime...@freebsd.org freebsd-...@freebsd.org > freebsd-po...@freebsd.org freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org > freebsd-...@freebsd.org free...@es.freebsd.org gnomemeeting-l...@gnome.org > gphoto-u...@lists.sourceforge.net gpsd-us...@lists.berlios.de > kde-free...@freebsd.kde.org kde-free...@kde.org l-chix...@glove.org.ve > linu...@listas.softwarelibre.cu evolution-l...@gnome.org > local-openmoko-sp...@projects.openmoko.org mplayer-us...@mplayerhq.hu > mutt-users@mutt.org openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org > ubuntu-ph...@lists.launchpad.net betatesters-m10_ubu...@bq.com > chromium-os-disc...@chromium.org x...@freebsd.org gnupg-us...@gnupg.org > > $ grep -i Mail-Followup-To ~/.muttrc > $ > > as I said, I do not set any Mail-Followup-To; and I think Reply-To: > and From: is quite normal; then you have someone in your system makeing changes to your posts, Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:31:20 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: mutt-users@mutt.org Subject: Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No X-Original-To: paka X-Original-To: mutt-users@mutt.org Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , mutt-users@mutt.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Reply-To: Matthias Apitz X-Envelope-From: mutt-users-boun...@mutt.org Lines: 57 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines
* Ian Zimmerman [04-25-18 10:42]: > On 2018-04-25 08:10, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you > > > also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately > > > _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the > > > TXT record for no-use.mooo.com. > > > > Hmmm? You Cc'ed me :-) > > Sorry about that, but it is because the list is of the munging variety > (namely, it adds a Reply-To header). I refuse to spend energy > compensating for that borkage. > > Unless you did that yourself, of course - but I'm giving you the benefit > of the doubt ;-) which he did and does regularily: "Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , mutt-users@mutt.org" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: is it possible to auto-detect mailing list?
* Tom Furie [04-20-18 18:54]: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 10:46:17PM +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > > > Most mailing lists emails have several sepecial headers, for example, > > "Mailing-List" and "X-Mailing-List". Is it possible to mark those emails as > > subscribed (as if we have used `subscribe l...@address.org' in .muttrc), > > such > > that there is a 'L' flag showing up in the index? > > I'd say it seems possible. My immediate first thoughts (without much > effort) would be to search for the relevant headers. If found, check > against a "subscribed" file. If the mailing list doesn't already have > an entry, add it. > > Perhaps procmail and sed would be useful for the purpose. > > The subscription file could be sourced by .muttrc. Of course, changes > won't be reflected until mutt is restarted. no, simply, :source will do it. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Macro to add attachment in compose window
* mimosinnet [04-06-18 14:04]: > Hi all, > > I have a macro in the compose window that adds an attachment to the mail: > > macro compose U > "/home/mimosinnet/.mutt/signatures/signature_uab.html" > > Would it be possible to get the macro executed when entering the compose > window, without pressing the key? > > My company wants this signature in the e-mails :( maybe add a return to the end, \n -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: weird appearance of Chinese email in pager
* Yubin Ruan [03-07-18 21:09]: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 05:34:13PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 09:31:21AM +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 05:15:23PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > Oh - I think I see what you're saying; if it's a single long string, > > > > like: > > > > > > > > 这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子这是一个很长的句子 > > > > > > > > Mutt can't infer any boundaries, and so doesn't wrap it? > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > Do you have $wrap set to a value, or to 0? > > > > set wrap=72 > > works for me, however, you might then have problems with other things > > breaking (long links, and such) > > set wrap=72 will only force wrapping long line, but it does not solve the > continuation problem. For example, check this very long line: > > 长长。这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子..这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子（shit > ! very long > line），这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子，这是一个很长的句子 > > note there is only one line above, and I want the line to show as it is. you realize you can set the pager to something outside mutt such as "less" in a terminal see man muttrc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: yuck == when reply-to looks like "X" instead of "Name"
* ant [03-06-18 18:15]: > a certain e-mail provider does this (a more complete > example is at the end of this query). > > the From header is correct. so what i'm looking for > is a message hook which redoes the Reply-To: header > before the message gets shown to me and it > somehow magically scans header, saves From address and format > and then if it finds out that the message has one of those > yucky Reply-Tos i want it to fix it using the saved From > address. otherwise it should leave the Reply-To: header > alone. > > in matching patterns i see no Reply-To: character so it > looks like i have to create this from the more general case > of using the entire headers character. > > as i've been reading through documentation and searching > for quite a while already i thought i would just ask as > perhaps someone has already done this but google isn't > showing me any love on this one and my brain cells are now > mush so i will ask and check later to see if anyone has > an obvious reply. > > > Example: > > = > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:26:41 + (UTC) > From: Joe Smith > Reply-To: "joesm...@example.com" > To: me > Message-ID: <1...@mail.someotherexample.com> > ... > Subject: this is borked... > = > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:26:41 + (UTC) > From: Joe Smith > Reply-To: Joe Smith > To: me > Message-ID: <1...@mail.someotherexample.com> > ... > Subject: this is unborked... > = > > why don't you just make the header visible, Reply-To: or look into procmail/formail -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Remove Subject prefixing (when answering/forwarding) possible?
* Akkana Peck [02-28-18 11:50]:
> Todd Zullinger writes:
> > http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#display-munging
> >
> > subjectrx was added in 1.8.0, it seems.
>
> That's wonderful! Something I've been wishing for for a long time.
>
> But the example in the manual doesn't work for me in 1.9.3
> (on Debian testing, but I think that's back to being normal mutt,
> not neomutt, right?). This line in muttrc:
> subjectrx '\[[^\]]*\]? *' '%L%R'
> changes
> "Re: [LongListName] blah blah"
> to
> "Re: ongListName] blah blah"
>
> In other words, the first * is ignored and it matches only one
> character after the open bracket. I've tried replacing the * with
> +, with {1,} and with {0,} but none of them work: * and {1,} match
> one character while + and {1,} don't match anything and do don't
> do any substitution.
>
> The feature is still great, because I don't strictly need the regex
> -- I can make explicit matches for the few really long list names
> that are causing problems -- but I wonder why the example in the
> manual isn't working.
>
> Also, is it possible to escape a quote? I have one set of emails
> that come through with an apostrophe, like
> Subject: [Don't care about this super long list ID] blah blah
>
> Escaping within single quotes, like this:
> subjectrx 'Don\'t care about this super long list ID]' '%LDONT%R'
> gives an "about: unknown command" error.
>
> The workaround of using double quotes works fine:
> subjectrx "Don't care about this super long list ID]" '%LDONT%R'
> Just curious, since the workaround is fine for now.
some time ago, in an earlier age, Sven Guckes posted a sed or perl filter
to hide "Subject:" additions, but I seem to have lost it, and he seems to
be missing too :^(
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Re: save attachment content as if they are in pager
* Yubin Ruan [02-01-18 21:28]: > Hi, > > I try to save a multipart/alternative attachment to file but all the content > seems to be messed up. When view in a pager, it look good: > > > LinkedIn Highlights > > Should I tell coworkers my salary? > > 264 people are talking about this > > https://www.linkedin.com/comm/search/results/content/?keywords=Should+I+tell+coworkers+my+salary%3F&origin=FED_EMAIL&anchorTopic=506458&midToken=AQFSR-6AohV2qQ&trk=eml-email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01-hero-1-null&trkEmail=eml-email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01-hero-1-null-null-6mvow3%7Ejd475j9d%7Ey4-null-neptune%2Fsearch%2Eresults%2Econtent&lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Aemail_email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01%3BrxyHuw3NTWi4n8fHNW81ig%3D%3D > - > > However, when saved to a file, it become: > (which is the same as in editor when you press 'e' to edit the email) > > > LinkedIn Highlights > > Should I tell coworkers my salary? > > 264 people are talking about this > > https://www.linkedin.com/comm/search/results/content/?keywords=3DShould+I+t= > ell+coworkers+my+salary%3F&origin=3DFED_EMAIL&anchorTopic=3D506458&midToken= > =3DAQFSR-6AohV2qQ&trk=3Deml-email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01-hero-1-null&trkE= > mail=3Deml-email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01-hero-1-null-null-6mvow3%7Ejd475j9= > d%7Ey4-null-neptune%2Fsearch%2Eresults%2Econtent&lipi=3Durn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ae= > mail_email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01%3BrxyHuw3NTWi4n8fHNW81ig%3D%3D > > =20 > --- > > I know the tailing = at the end is to enable the pager to prettify thing. But > can we save directly from the pager? just a guess but I would say your locale is not correct. the link appears correct for me and in my editor, joe. or your content-type is incorrect: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: find matched message in all mailboxes and put them into a separate mailbox
* Ben Boeckel [01-18-18 11:40]: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 17:29:38 +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > > I know one can hit / or l (i.e., limit) and then apply a search pattern to > > search for messages in the current mailbox. But can we apply this to > > multiple > > mailboxes? I would like to search for matched messages in all mailboxes and > > then put them into a separate mailbox. For example, I have 10 mailboxes and > > now I want to search in these 10 mailboxes for messages that have me in the > > "To: " field and then put them into a separate mailbox. > > I use notmuch for this (using Maildir): > > https://notmuchmail.org/ > > with these bindings: > > macro index \Cn "\ > set my_wait_key = \$wait_key\ > unset wait_key\ > notmuch-mutt --prompt search\ > ~/.cache/notmuch/mutt/results\ > set wait_key = \$my_wait_key\ > unset my_wait_key\ > " "search mail (using notmuch)" > macro index "\ > set my_wait_key = \$wait_key\ > unset wait_key\ > notmuch-mutt thread\ > ~/.cache/notmuch/mutt/results\ > set wait_key = \$my_wait_key\ > unset my_wait_key\ > " "search and reconstruct owning thread (using notmuch)" > > Notmuch reindexing is triggered by offlineimap, but whatever fetches > email for you should also be able to trigger a reindex. the OP has mbox which notmuch doesn't support -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: find matched message in all mailboxes and put them into a separate mailbox
* Yubin Ruan [01-18-18 04:31]: > > I know one can hit / or l (i.e., limit) and then apply a search pattern to > search for messages in the current mailbox. But can we apply this to multiple > mailboxes? I would like to search for matched messages in all mailboxes and > then put them into a separate mailbox. For example, I have 10 mailboxes and > now I want to search in these 10 mailboxes for messages that have me in the > "To: " field and then put them into a separate mailbox. mairix is what you are looking for -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: set Bcc when To: is not myself
* Yubin Ruan [12-26-17 20:40]: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 02:16:22PM +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > > How can I set the Bcc: to myself when To: is not myself? > > > > I try something like this but it does not work: > > send-hook "!~t ablacktsh...@gmail.com" 'my_hdr Bcc: Yubin Ruan > > ' > > > > Then I try this and it work when I try to send a fresh email: > > > > send-hook "~t ablacktshirt" 'my_hdr Bcc:' > > send-hook . 'my_hdr Bcc: Yubin Ruan ' > > > > however when I reply to somebody, it does not work. Frustrating! ;-( > > Ah I still cannot figure out why these hook only work at sometime. Maybe I > just misunderstand the meaning of each hook. > > Anyway, I found a configuration option that can solve my problem neatly: > > set metoo=yes > > Attribute goes to this SO thread: > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12924804/mutt-reply-hook-cant-set-cc back to the books, err docs I guess. hooks do not all work the same and some only work under specific conditions and in certain order. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Inermittant error downloading gmail to mutt
* Brian Salter-Duke [12-05-17 00:51]: > I am increasing getting an error when I try to download my gmail email into > mutt. Clearly it is not a mutt error, but maybe some mutters can help me. > > I use a script that includes:- > > fetchmail -f ~/.fetchmailrc-gmail --keep > > and similar lines for a few other email accounts (that all work) followed by > calling mutt. > > .fetchmailrc-gmail is:- > > poll pop.gmail.com with proto POP3 and options > user 'brian.james.d...@gmail.com' with pass "*" is 'brian' here > ssl > sslcertck > sslcertpath '***' > smtphost localhost > fetchall > > mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f brian -m /home/brian/.procmailrc" I cannot now remember why, but I changed gmail to imap some years ago and cannot recall any problems in quite some time, 4 or 5 years. I use: poll imap.gmail.com nodns tracepolls with proto IMAP port 993 timeout 45 user 'ptilopt...@gmail.com' there with password 'xxx' is 'xxx' \ here options fetchall stripcr sslproto tls1 ssl sslcertck mda '/usr/lib/sendmail -i -oem -f %F %T' antispam 571 550 501 554 sendmail hands off to procmail I occasionally get an error but not from gmail: fetchmail: socket error while fetching from ptilopt...@att.net@imap.mail.yahoo.com fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) but that error clears itself and I don't loose mail. gud luk, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Clear subject field
* Pétùr [11-20-17 07:21]: > Hi, > > Is there a way to quickly clear the subject of an email? > > Right now I have to delete character by character with the del key. > > I want to delete everything in the subject field and add a better > (new) subject sometimes when forwarding email. look a the docs/man-page for your chosen editor. or if using mutt's built-in, again check the docs. mutt has some of the best documentation available. and of course there is always google. hint: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#editing and then there is google -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
