Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:38:04AM -0400, Trey wrote in 
> <1034f899-26d0-420b-b47a-485914fe0...@www.fastmail.com>:
> >On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote:
> >>
> >> Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 09:58:48 -0400):
> >>
> >> > > [...] I'd suggest to start with the object called "normal".
> >> >
> >> > It looks like default is used in the majority of cases in my .muttrc:
> >
> >Not sure what is meant by your reply.
> 
> Hi Trey,
> 
> I think he meant that in your .muttrc, you might want to add an entry like:
> 
> color normal white default  (or whatever color combination)
> 
> similar to how you have it for header, body, index, and the other color 
> entries.
> 
> Please also note the following in the Mutt manual, it probably does
> not apply for you, but be aware of it:
> 
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#color  :
> 
> If your terminal supports it, the special keyword default can be used
> as a transparent color. The value brightdefault is also valid. If Mutt
> is linked against the S-Lang library, you also need to set the
> $COLORFGBG environment variable to the default colors of your terminal
> for this to work; for example (for Bourne-like shells):
> 
> set COLORFGBG="green;black"
> export COLORFGBG
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Remco
> 

Adding the "color normal..." line appears to have fixed it for me.

Thank you both!

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Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote:
> 
> Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 09:58:48 -0400):
> 
> > > [...] I'd suggest to start with the object called "normal".
> > 
> > It looks like default is used in the majority of cases in my .muttrc:
> 
> [This space intentionally left blank.]
> 

Hi Marcus.

Not sure what is meant by your reply.

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Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote:
> 
> Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 07:53:17 -0400):
> 
> > If I set xfce4-terminal to transparent, it works as expected.
> > 
> > If I then start mutt from from xfce4-terminal, the only transparency are 
> > messages highlighted in some way (new, from me, flagged)  All other mails 
> > are set against a black background.
> 
> I can confirm at least part of what you have observed (using
> Debian buster). I believe the background color in Mutt is
> set to "black" for most things. Setting the background color
> to "default" makes it transparent in my case.
> 
> You'll probably have to set the background color of several
> objects to "default" (in your muttrc). I'd suggest to start
> with the object called "normal".
> 
> Cheers, Marcus
> 
Hi Marcus-

It looks like default is used in the majority of cases in my .muttrc:

# On to the colors
color   attachment  blue default
color   header  brightbluedefault  "^message-id:"
color   header  reddefault  "^x-mailer:"
color   header  reddefault  "^user-agent:"
color   header  reddefault  "^x-operating-system:"
color   header  blue default  "^date: "
color   header  brightblue   default  "^from: "
color   header  greendefault  "^subject: "
color   header  brightblue   default  "^to: "
color   header  brightblue   default  "^cc: "
color   header  brightblue   default  "^in-reply-to: "
color   index   magentadefault  ~F
color   index   red  default  ~D
color   index   blue default  ~T
color   index   brightblue   default  ~N
#color  index brightgreendefault  '~p'# mail to myself
color   index brightcyandefault  '~P'# mail from myself
color   indicator   brightwhite  blue
color   markers red  default
color   quoted  magenta  default
color   quoted1 yellow  default
color   quoted2 cyandefault
color   quoted3 green   default
color   quoted4 magenta  default
color   quoted5 yellow  default
color   quoted6 cyandefault
color   quoted7 green   default
color   signature   brightblue   default
#color   search brightyellow  default  # search matches
color   search  brightwhite  brightblue
color   status  brightwhite  green
color   tilde   cyan default
color   treeblue default
#color  bodybrightyellow  default 
"(https?|ftp|gopher|finger)://([^"'"'"' \t\r\n)>.,!?&]|[.,!?][^"'"'"' 
\t\r\n)>.,!?&]|&([^g]|$)|([^t]|$)|([^;]|$))+"
color   body  magenta default  "[;:]-[)/(|]"  # colorise smileys
color   body  magenta default  "[;:][)/(|]"
color   body  brightyellow default  
"(http|https|ftp|news|telnet|finger)://[^ ]*"
color   body  brightblue default  "\\b[^ ]+://[^ ]*"
color   bodyblackdefault  "(^| )_[-a-z0-9_]+_[,.?]?[ \n]"


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Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
Sorry about that.  Let's try these links to the screenshots...

1) https://bit.ly/31zWAdf
2) https://bit.ly/3fJjGTL

Thanks!


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 07:53:17AM -0400, Trey wrote in 
> >:
> >>I've attached my .muttrc, and screenshots of mutt and just xfce4-terminal.
> >
> >Looks like these images can't be seen without logging in with or
> >creating a DropBox / Google / Apple account.
> 
> You might be able to include the screenshots with your mail to this
> list, and include the referenced .muttrc (make sure to exclude
> personal information) while you are at it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Remco
>

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mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm using xfce4-terminal and Cinnamon desktop environment.

If I set xfce4-terminal to transparent, it works as expected.

If I then start mutt from from xfce4-terminal, the only transparency are 
messages highlighted in some way (new, from me, flagged)  All other mails are 
set against a black background.

Not sure if this is a Cinnamon issue, xfce4-terminal, or mutt issue.

I've attached my .muttrc, and screenshots of mutt and just xfce4-terminal.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

1) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/mutt_transparency.png?role=personal
2) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/xfce4-terminal.png?role=personal

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Re: Issue with PGP verification

2020-07-16 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Thu Jul 16, 2020 09:07PM, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> Il 16 luglio 2020 alle 14:58 Trey Sizemore ha scritto:
> > Thanks Francesco.  Still not able to verify some keys though.
> 
> Can you do that manually with GPG and see if it takes a long time
> on the command line too?

It's not so much the time now as certain (recent) keys not being
verifiable.  But if the keyserver is working as it should, not sure what
the problem is.

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Re: Issue with PGP verification

2020-07-16 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Thu Jul 16, 2020 06:24PM, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> Hello Trey,
> 
> Il 16 luglio 2020 alle 10:56 Trey Sizemore ha scritto:
> > Do I need to change the server(s) in my gpg.conf file and/or the method
> > by which the key is attempting to be retreived?
> 
> I do not use `auto-key-retrieve` myself, but I know for sure pgp.mit.edu
> has been a little choosy lately. Maybe to put another serve in
> `keyserver`? I use «pool.sks-keyservers.net» and it works nice
> —F

Thanks Francesco.  Still not able to verify some keys though.

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Issue with PGP verification

2020-07-16 Thread Trey Sizemore
Hi-

I've only seen this issue recently (and I realize it's not
mutt-specific) but that's where I see it and I know there are many on
the list who have this working well.

On many emails with PGP signatures, attempting to view them with mutt
from the index I get the message 'Invoking PGP..." for sometimes up to a
minute or more (like it's hanging) and then the message body will
display and the PGP portion of the header will read something like:

[-- PGP output follows (current time: Thu 16 Jul 2020 10:07:19 AM EDT)
--]
gpg: Signature made Tue 14 Jul 2020 05:27:00 PM EDT
gpg:using DSA key
28061C079B06D9752C2445CE8F1F244064FA7AA7
gpg: requesting key 8F1F244064FA7AA7 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
[-- End of PGP output --]

Do I need to change the server(s) in my gpg.conf file and/or the method
by which the key is attempting to be retreived?

Thank you!

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No circle so perfect but that it has a blur. 
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Re: Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-07 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon May 06, 2013 02:20PM, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 08:53 AM, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  I've been connecting to my fastmail.fm account directly via IMAP for a
  while now with no issues.  Recently, I've decided to use offlineimap to
  mirror the content locally to a Maildir directory.
  
  I've been trying to change my .muttrc to reflect the change so that it
  points to the local files.  While I'm seeing the mail in each subscribed
  folder, some of the expected behavior is not working ('c' prompting to
  change to the next folder with new messages).
  
  The local mail folders are located in ~/.mail/fastmail/ and look like:
  
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:40 .Drafts/
  drwxr-xr-x   3 trey  staff   102 May  5 19:12 .notmuch/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:38 Drafts/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Apple Mail To Do/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Archive/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.CentOS/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Deleted Messages/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Drafts/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.FreeBSD-Questions/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk Mail/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.K12OSN/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Queue/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SLES/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Saved/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Items/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Messages/
  drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SuSE/
  
  Not sure why I have multiple Drafts folders.
  
  In my .muttrc I have this:
  
  set mbox_type=Maildir
  set folder=~/.mail/fastmail/
  set mask=!^\\.[^.]
  set mbox=~/.mail/fastmail/
  set record=+INBOX.Sent Items
  set postponed=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX.Drafts
  set spoolfile=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX
  
  I assume that I've formatted the paths wrong above?  Hoping someone can
  help.  
  
  Related, what should the format of entries for 'mailboxes' be? 
  mailboxes INBOX.mutt INBOX.Sent
  
  Thanks!
  
 
 To update, I put the full path in for both 'set record' and 'set
 postponed' (such as ~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX.Sent) and both the remote
 Drafts and Send folders get populated as would be expected.
 
 But I'm still not sure what the format should be for the 'mailboxes'
 line in .muttrc.  While on IMAP, I can hit 'c' and will be prompted with
 the next folder that contains new mail.  I had a line when connecting
 via IMAP like:
 
 mailboxes =INBOX.ale =INBOX.mutt
 
 What should be the syntax for mailboxes entries when pointing to a local
 Maildir?
 
 Thanks.
 

I found the correct format to be +INBOX.mutt

This is on Max OSX Mountain Lion, so I used this entry in .muttrc to
populate:

mailboxes `find ~/.mail/fastmail -maxdepth 1 -type d -name .*  -exec \
echo -n +'{}'  \;`

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Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-06 Thread Trey Sizemore
I've been connecting to my fastmail.fm account directly via IMAP for a
while now with no issues.  Recently, I've decided to use offlineimap to
mirror the content locally to a Maildir directory.

I've been trying to change my .muttrc to reflect the change so that it
points to the local files.  While I'm seeing the mail in each subscribed
folder, some of the expected behavior is not working ('c' prompting to
change to the next folder with new messages).

The local mail folders are located in ~/.mail/fastmail/ and look like:

drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:40 .Drafts/
drwxr-xr-x   3 trey  staff   102 May  5 19:12 .notmuch/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:38 Drafts/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Apple Mail To Do/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Archive/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.CentOS/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Deleted Messages/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Drafts/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.FreeBSD-Questions/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk Mail/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.K12OSN/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Queue/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SLES/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Saved/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Items/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Messages/
drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SuSE/

Not sure why I have multiple Drafts folders.

In my .muttrc I have this:

set mbox_type=Maildir
set folder=~/.mail/fastmail/
set mask=!^\\.[^.]
set mbox=~/.mail/fastmail/
set record=+INBOX.Sent Items
set postponed=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX.Drafts
set spoolfile=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX

I assume that I've formatted the paths wrong above?  Hoping someone can
help.  

Related, what should the format of entries for 'mailboxes' be? 
mailboxes INBOX.mutt INBOX.Sent

Thanks!

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Re: Correct .muttrc format for Maildir

2013-05-06 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, May 6, 2013, at 08:53 AM, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I've been connecting to my fastmail.fm account directly via IMAP for a
 while now with no issues.  Recently, I've decided to use offlineimap to
 mirror the content locally to a Maildir directory.
 
 I've been trying to change my .muttrc to reflect the change so that it
 points to the local files.  While I'm seeing the mail in each subscribed
 folder, some of the expected behavior is not working ('c' prompting to
 change to the next folder with new messages).
 
 The local mail folders are located in ~/.mail/fastmail/ and look like:
 
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:40 .Drafts/
 drwxr-xr-x   3 trey  staff   102 May  5 19:12 .notmuch/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 21:38 Drafts/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Apple Mail To Do/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Archive/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.CentOS/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Deleted Messages/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Drafts/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.FreeBSD-Questions/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Junk Mail/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.K12OSN/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Queue/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SLES/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Saved/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Items/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.Sent Messages/
 drwx--   5 trey  staff   170 May  5 14:28 INBOX.SuSE/
 
 Not sure why I have multiple Drafts folders.
 
 In my .muttrc I have this:
 
 set mbox_type=Maildir
 set folder=~/.mail/fastmail/
 set mask=!^\\.[^.]
 set mbox=~/.mail/fastmail/
 set record=+INBOX.Sent Items
 set postponed=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX.Drafts
 set spoolfile=~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX
 
 I assume that I've formatted the paths wrong above?  Hoping someone can
 help.  
 
 Related, what should the format of entries for 'mailboxes' be? 
 mailboxes INBOX.mutt INBOX.Sent
 
 Thanks!
 

To update, I put the full path in for both 'set record' and 'set
postponed' (such as ~/.mail/fastmail/INBOX.Sent) and both the remote
Drafts and Send folders get populated as would be expected.

But I'm still not sure what the format should be for the 'mailboxes'
line in .muttrc.  While on IMAP, I can hit 'c' and will be prompted with
the next folder that contains new mail.  I had a line when connecting
via IMAP like:

mailboxes =INBOX.ale =INBOX.mutt

What should be the syntax for mailboxes entries when pointing to a local
Maildir?

Thanks.

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Using Mac OSX addressbook groups

2013-04-22 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have mutt using entries from my Mountain Lion addressbook
successfully, but I've not found a way to use 'groups' I've created in
the addressbook.

Just curious if any Mac users on the list have found a way to select
'groups' they've created in their addressbooks when composing mail (To:,
CC:)?


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Re: Using Mac OSX addressbook groups

2013-04-22 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:19PM, Tim Gray wrote:
 On Apr 22, 2013 at 04:22 PM -0700, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 Just curious if any Mac users on the list have found a way to select
 'groups' they've created in their addressbooks when composing mail (To:,
 CC:)?
 
 Yup.  I've dumped the groups with members to an alias file that I
 source.  I don't actually use it for mailing people (you could) but
 more for hooks, like send hooks and save hooks.  That way I
 automatically reply to personal emails with my personal address and
 the messages get filed appropriately and differently from work
 related stuff.
 
 I use this Python script to dump the groups to a file via a cronjob
 every night.  This is something I eventually hope to code up in a
 compiled command line program - I'm slowly working on that.
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o5a9ee9uqs145j7/export_to_alias.py

Thanks.  I figured an alias file was the way to go, but wanted to see if
there was an alternative.

I'll check out the script.

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Header cache fetch times

2012-12-05 Thread Trey Sizemore
I've noticed lately that when I load mutt (defaulting to my Fastmail.fm
INBOX) or when switching from another mailbox back to the INBOX, that
the time to display due to fetching message headers takes quite a while. 

I'm using IMAP and have a headers directory created in my /home folder
which is populated with entries and the following in my .muttrc:

set header_cache=~/.mutt/headers

The headers directory is permission 755 and the directories within are
700.

I've got ~20,000 messages in the INBOX, but other mailboxes (for mailing
lists) have more messages but are evaluated and headers fetched much
faster.

Just looking for some things to investigate that I may have overlooked. 
This is on a Mac if that makes any difference and using mutt 1.5.21.

Thanks.
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Caching body of IMAP messages

2012-06-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have entries in my .muttrc for caching both headers and message
bodies.  

set header_cache=~/.mutt/headers
set message_cachedir =~/.mutt/bodies

Both directories are populated.  The header caching appears to work well
when doing searches for 'Subject' or 'From' but searching for text
within message bodies (using ~b) causes messages to be downloaded.

Is this normal behavior?  I will say that the directories within
~/.mutt/bodies for each of my mail directories do not appear to have
all the message id's for messages on the server.

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Re: Caching body of IMAP messages

2012-06-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:47PM, Morris, Patrick wrote:
  I have entries in my .muttrc for caching both headers and message
  bodies.
  
  set header_cache=~/.mutt/headers
  set message_cachedir =~/.mutt/bodies
  
  Both directories are populated.  The header caching appears to work
  well
  when doing searches for 'Subject' or 'From' but searching for text
  within message bodies (using ~b) causes messages to be downloaded.
  
  Is this normal behavior?  I will say that the directories within
  ~/.mutt/bodies for each of my mail directories do not appear to have
  all the message id's for messages on the server.
 
 
 Sounds pretty normal to me. There's no way to search IMAP messages locally
 if you haven't downloaded them yet.  Headers will be downloaded
 automatically, but unlike with POP, the rest of the message will stay on the
 server undownloaded until you need to retrieve a copy, and you'd need to do
 that to search them.

OK.  Thanks for the clarification.

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Nothing. 
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Re: Mailcap entry for viewing Word docx files on Mac

2011-06-06 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri Jun 03, 2011 02:52PM, Leo Vegoda wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Paul wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:31:13AM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  Hoping someone can help with the correct mailcap entry for viewing .doc
  and .docx files from mutt on Snow Leopard.
  
  I have Office 2011 installed, so I guess I would need the line to invoke
  that in my .mailcap file as Preview does not appear to be compatible
  with Office files.
  
  I use this:
  
  application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document;mutt_bgrun
   soffice %s
  
  Your binary will be different. I don't know it.
 
 On a Mac I have just one entry for application, audio, image, video
 etc... in the format:
 
 application/*; /usr/bin/open %s
 
 It just works as long as you have the appropriate program associated
 with the file type in Finder. It's only for text MIME types that I
 have more specific entries, and that's only so I can read HTML
 e-mail easily in mutt, rather than using a web browser for it.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Leo

Thanks Leo.  That seems to work for me.

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Cheers,
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The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it. 
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Mailcap entry for viewing Word docx files on Mac

2011-06-02 Thread Trey Sizemore
Hoping someone can help with the correct mailcap entry for viewing .doc
and .docx files from mutt on Snow Leopard.

I have Office 2011 installed, so I guess I would need the line to invoke
that in my .mailcap file as Preview does not appear to be compatible
with Office files.

-- 
Cheers,
Trey

 
No lake so still but that it has its wave; 
No circle so perfect but that it has a blur. 
I would change things for you if I could; 
As I can't, you must take them as they are. 
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Wrapping non-wrapped e-mail when replying

2011-04-27 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'd like to find out how to wrap long lines in e-mails that I'm replying
to.  My mutt is setup to automatically wrap lines when I compose, but
I'd like to be able to also lap long lines in e-mails when I reply.

I have googled and see that with Vim as the editor, 'gq' is likely what
I want, but reading the help on this I'm still not sure how to
invoke/use it.

Ideally, it would be nice to have the lines in the original e-mail that
are too long to automatically be wrapped in the reply when I hit 'r'.

-- 
Cheers,
Trey

 
The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it. 
 --Antoninus, Marcus Aurelius
 
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Re: Wrapping non-wrapped e-mail when replying

2011-04-27 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Wed Apr 27, 2011 06:22PM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:59:04AM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I'd like to find out how to wrap long lines in e-mails that I'm replying
 to.  My mutt is setup to automatically wrap lines when I compose,
 but I'd like to be able to also lap long lines in e-mails when I
 reply.
 
 I have googled and see that with Vim as the editor, 'gq' is likely what
 I want, but reading the help on this I'm still not sure how to
 invoke/use it.
 
 Ideally, it would be nice to have the lines in the original e-mail
 that are too long to automatically be wrapped in the reply when I
 hit 'r'.
 
 Hi Trey,
 
 Assuming you are using vim as your editor of choice, when composing
 a reply, you can issue the command 'gq}' when your cursor is at the
 start of a paragraph you are replying to and when you are in command
 mode, to rewrap that paragraph using your configured preferences for
 vim. It even is kind enough to properly indent  characters for you.
 
 As an alternative, 'gqG' will reindent the entire email.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Remco

Thanks Remco!  That works perfectly!

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Cheers,
Trey

 
The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears 
with composure one heavy mischance after another, 
not because he does not feel them, but because
he is a man of high and heroic temper. 
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Re: Getting mutt to access Mac addressbook with lbdb

2009-10-23 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri Oct 23, 2009 04:26AM, Eugene wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:08:23PM CDT, Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm 
 wrote:
  
  I previously had this working but now, not so much.  I have
  installed lbdb from MacPorts but perhaps it's missing the needed
  m_osx_addressbook_query piece.  My main reason for asking on the
  list is to see if anyone has this working with lbdb-0.36.
  
  When I try to access my Mac addressbook from within mutt, I get the
  error:  /opt/local/bin/lbdbq: line 74: m_osx_addressbook_query:
  command not found
 
 Try this page on the address book section, starting with creating a
 personal ~/.lbdbrc directory.
 
 http://log.antiflux.org/grant/2006/11/22/mutt-with-imap-and-ssl-on-os-x
 
 

Thanks.  I performed a 'sudo port uninstall lbdb' and then did a 'sudo
port install lbdb'.  Looking in the /opt/local/lib/lbdb/ directory, I
see:

tbook:~ trey$ ls -alF /opt/local/lib/lbdb/
total 296
drwxr-xr-x   25 root  admin850 Oct 23 07:53 ./
drwxr-xr-x  440 root  admin  14960 Oct 23 07:53 ../
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  24264 Oct 23 07:53 fetchaddr*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1653 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb-munge*
-rw-r--r--2 root  admin   1075 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb_bbdb_query.el
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2073 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb_lib*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1992 Oct 23 07:53 m_bbdb*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1034 Oct 23 07:53 m_fido*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1671 Oct 23 07:53 m_finger*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1946 Oct 23 07:53 m_gnomecard*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1557 Oct 23 07:53 m_gpg*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1205 Oct 23 07:53 m_inmail*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1241 Oct 23 07:53 m_ldap*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1832 Oct 23 07:53 m_muttalias*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1271 Oct 23 07:53 m_palm*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1257 Oct 23 07:53 m_passwd*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   4209 Oct 23 07:53 m_pine*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1214 Oct 23 07:53 m_wanderlust*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1290 Oct 23 07:53 m_yppasswd*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1086 Oct 23 07:53 munge*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1188 Oct 23 07:53 munge-keeporder*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  20459 Oct 23 07:53 mutt_ldap_query*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2262 Oct 23 07:53 palm_lsaddr*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  19632 Oct 23 07:53 qpto8bit*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1055 Oct 23 07:53 tac*

Note there is no m_osx_addressbook or ABQuery.  I have Mac's
addressbook install.  Any reason why these would be missing?

-- 
Cheers,
Trey

 
 
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Re: Getting mutt to access Mac addressbook with lbdb

2009-10-23 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 08:04 -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 On Fri Oct 23, 2009 04:26AM, Eugene wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:08:23PM CDT, Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm 
  wrote:
   
   I previously had this working but now, not so much.  I have
   installed lbdb from MacPorts but perhaps it's missing the needed
   m_osx_addressbook_query piece.  My main reason for asking on the
   list is to see if anyone has this working with lbdb-0.36.
   
   When I try to access my Mac addressbook from within mutt, I get the
   error:  /opt/local/bin/lbdbq: line 74: m_osx_addressbook_query:
   command not found
  
  Try this page on the address book section, starting with creating a
  personal ~/.lbdbrc directory.
  
  http://log.antiflux.org/grant/2006/11/22/mutt-with-imap-and-ssl-on-os-x
  
  
 
 Thanks.  I performed a 'sudo port uninstall lbdb' and then did a 'sudo
 port install lbdb'.  Looking in the /opt/local/lib/lbdb/ directory, I
 see:
 
 tbook:~ trey$ ls -alF /opt/local/lib/lbdb/
 total 296
 drwxr-xr-x   25 root  admin850 Oct 23 07:53 ./
 drwxr-xr-x  440 root  admin  14960 Oct 23 07:53 ../
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  24264 Oct 23 07:53 fetchaddr*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1653 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb-munge*
 -rw-r--r--2 root  admin   1075 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb_bbdb_query.el
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2073 Oct 23 07:53 lbdb_lib*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1992 Oct 23 07:53 m_bbdb*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1034 Oct 23 07:53 m_fido*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1671 Oct 23 07:53 m_finger*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1946 Oct 23 07:53 m_gnomecard*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1557 Oct 23 07:53 m_gpg*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1205 Oct 23 07:53 m_inmail*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1241 Oct 23 07:53 m_ldap*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1832 Oct 23 07:53 m_muttalias*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1271 Oct 23 07:53 m_palm*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1257 Oct 23 07:53 m_passwd*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   4209 Oct 23 07:53 m_pine*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1214 Oct 23 07:53 m_wanderlust*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1290 Oct 23 07:53 m_yppasswd*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1086 Oct 23 07:53 munge*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1188 Oct 23 07:53 munge-keeporder*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  20459 Oct 23 07:53 mutt_ldap_query*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2262 Oct 23 07:53 palm_lsaddr*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  19632 Oct 23 07:53 qpto8bit*
 -rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1055 Oct 23 07:53 tac*
 
 Note there is no m_osx_addressbook or ABQuery.  I have Mac's
 addressbook install.  Any reason why these would be missing?
 

I should mention as well that this is Snow Leopard, so I'll be curious
to see if anyone has this working since upgrading to Snow Leopard.

Thanks.




Correct syntax for vim in .muttrc

2009-10-23 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have my editor setup as vim in my .muttrc and set to insert the cursor 
on new mails and replies below the headers.  But with this being vim 7 
and spell check built in, I wanted to use that as well.  So below are my 
.muttrc entries for editor (the first commented out entry being the one 
that does the desired cursor placement and the second being the one that 
gets spell check working). 

What is the correct syntax to combine these in one entry so I can get 
both cursor placement *and* spell check?


Thanks!



Re: Getting mutt to access Mac addressbook with lbdb

2009-10-23 Thread Trey Sizemore

John K Masters wrote:

On 18:11 Fri 23 Oct , John K Masters wrote:
  

On 12:34 Fri 23 Oct , Trey Sizemore wrote:


On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 08:04 -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  

On Fri Oct 23, 2009 04:26AM, Eugene wrote:


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:08:23PM CDT, Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  

Note there is no m_osx_addressbook or ABQuery.  I have Mac's
addressbook install.  Any reason why these would be missing?



I should mention as well that this is Snow Leopard, so I'll be curious
to see if anyone has this working since upgrading to Snow Leopard.

Thanks.


  

That seems to be the problem. My Leopard system shows the relevant files
but I installed lbdb on another SL system and the file was not there.
Also muttprint no longer works on Snow Leopard.



OK, no help I know but installing muttprint on Leopard brought in LaTeX,
installing in Snow did not. Had to install texlive separately and then
muttprint worked OK.

Possibly the same sort of problem with lbdb? The error message is not
giving you too much help. 

  
Yes, appears to be an issue with the lbdb from MacPorts and XCode since 
upgrading to Snow Leopard.  I may have a patch that will work I found 
while doing some additional googling.  I will post to the list if it works.





Getting mutt to access Mac addressbook with lbdb

2009-10-22 Thread Trey Sizemore

Hi all-

I previously had this working but now, not so much.  I have installed 
lbdb from MacPorts but perhaps it's missing the needed 
m_osx_addressbook_query piece.  My main reason for asking on the list is 
to see if anyone has this working with lbdb-0.36.


When I try to access my Mac addressbook from within mutt, I get the 
error:  /opt/local/bin/lbdbq: line 74: m_osx_addressbook_query: command 
not found


Looking in /opt/local/lib/lbdb/ I see:

drwxr-xr-x   25 root  admin850 Oct  9 15:51 ./
drwxr-xr-x  440 root  admin  14960 Oct 18 16:25 ../
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  24264 Oct  9 15:51 fetchaddr*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1653 Oct  9 15:51 lbdb-munge*
-rw-r--r--2 root  admin   1075 Oct  9 15:51 lbdb_bbdb_query.el
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2073 Oct  9 15:51 lbdb_lib*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1992 Oct  9 15:51 m_bbdb*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1034 Oct  9 15:51 m_fido*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1671 Oct  9 15:51 m_finger*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1946 Oct  9 15:51 m_gnomecard*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1557 Oct  9 15:51 m_gpg*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1205 Oct  9 15:51 m_inmail*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1241 Oct  9 15:51 m_ldap*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1832 Oct  9 15:51 m_muttalias*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1271 Oct  9 15:51 m_palm*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1257 Oct  9 15:51 m_passwd*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   4209 Oct  9 15:51 m_pine*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1214 Oct  9 15:51 m_wanderlust*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1290 Oct  9 15:51 m_yppasswd*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1086 Oct  9 15:51 munge*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1188 Oct  9 15:51 munge-keeporder*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  20459 Oct  9 15:51 mutt_ldap_query*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   2262 Oct  9 15:51 palm_lsaddr*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin  19632 Oct  9 15:51 qpto8bit*
-rwxr-xr-x2 root  admin   1055 Oct  9 15:51 tac*

So no m_osx_addressbook_query.  Not sure what's going on.  Any help 
appreciated.


Thanks.



Re: Keybinding for Page Up in pager/index on Mac

2009-10-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat Oct 10, 2009 01:51PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
 On 09Oct2009 19:51, Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 | Bringing over my .muttrc from my Linux box, I have Page Up in index and
 | pager mapped to 'Backspace'.  Obviously this doesn't work on my MacBook
 | with the Terminal.app.
 | 
 | What are others using on the Mac to accomplish Page Up?
 
 Hmm, I've been limping along with [ and ] for half page scrolls.
 
 I'm using Terminal.app on a Mac. I just tried Fn-Shift-UpArrow and
 ...-DownArrow and they seem to produce PageUp and PageDown from mutt's point
 of view. You may or may not need the Fn-; I'm pretty sure I've ticked a
 preference to invert Fn- for the function keys and pssibly the arrows. So try
 Shift-UpArrow or Fn-Shift-UpArrow.

Thanks.  The Fn-Shift-UpArrow key combo works for me.

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mutt skips mailboxes with new messages

2009-10-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
I have noticed lately a behavior with mutt in that then I'm changing
mailboxes (with 'c') that mutt jumps to mailboxes (next alphabetically)
while skipping some mailboxes in between that have new messages in
them.  If I then select these mailboxes manually, I can then see the
new messages that are there and colored to indicate the messages are
new (per my .muttrc) so mutt knows there are new messages in these
mailboxes.

I'm not sure why they're being skipped, however.  Obviously this is bad
as I would have to remember to go to these on my own or miss any new
messages that have come in.

My .muttrc is setup such that affected and unaffected mailboxes are all
identical in setup.

Any ideas here are greatly appreciated.

-- 
Cheers,
Trey

 
 
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Re: mutt skips mailboxes with new messages

2009-10-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat Oct 10, 2009 06:16PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Trey Sizemore t...@fastmail.fm [10-10-09 10:12]:
  I have noticed lately a behavior with mutt in that then I'm changing
  mailboxes (with 'c') that mutt jumps to mailboxes (next alphabetically)
  while skipping some mailboxes in between that have new messages in
  them.  If I then select these mailboxes manually, I can then see the
  new messages that are there and colored to indicate the messages are
  new (per my .muttrc) so mutt knows there are new messages in these
  mailboxes.
  
  I'm not sure why they're being skipped, however.  Obviously this is bad
  as I would have to remember to go to these on my own or miss any new
  messages that have come in.
  
  My .muttrc is setup such that affected and unaffected mailboxes are all
  identical in setup.
 
 are they listed in .muttrc or /etc/muttrc in some manner to achieve:
 
 mailboxes /home/me/mail/mutt-users
 mailboxes /home/me/mail/mailbox_name
 
 *only* mailboxes meeting this criteria will be parced with the 'c' key.

Yes, they are.

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Keybinding for Page Up in pager/index on Mac

2009-10-09 Thread Trey Sizemore
Bringing over my .muttrc from my Linux box, I have Page Up in index and
pager mapped to 'Backspace'.  Obviously this doesn't work on my MacBook
with the Terminal.app.

What are others using on the Mac to accomplish Page Up?


-- 
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Trey

 
 
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Running mutt on Mac OS X

2009-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm contemplating getting a MacBook Pro laptop.  As a long-time Linux
user, I'm concerned about getting mutt running the way that I've got it
setup on my Linux machines.

For those running mutt on Mac OS X, how easy/hard was it to get your
.muttrc 'adapted' to run?  Does urlview work as expected, are you using
vim for the editor and did you get your vim configurations ported over
ok?

Thanks for any feedback.

-- 
Cheers,
Trey

 
Thieves respect property; they merely wish the property
to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.
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Re: Running mutt on Mac OS X

2009-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:40:15 -0600, Kyle Wheeler
kyle-m...@memoryhole.net said:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Friday, January  2 at 12:13 PM, quoth Trey Sizemore:
  I'm contemplating getting a MacBook Pro laptop.  As a long-time Linux 
  user, I'm concerned about getting mutt running the way that I've got it 
  setup on my Linux machines.
 
 For what it's worth, I share my muttrc (and related files) between all 
 of my machines, which includes both Linux and Mac boxes, without any 
 trouble.
 
  For those running mutt on Mac OS X, how easy/hard was it to get your 
  .muttrc 'adapted' to run?
 
 I didn't have to do anything to the muttrc. The only thing that needed 
 some extra entries was, obviously, the ~/.mailcap file and the 
 ~/.urlview file. I say obviously because the commands needed to open 
 various file types are different on OS X. For example, to open a URL 
 in your web browser, you can just use the `open` command. But that's 
 got nothing to do with your muttrc.
 
 Here's how I've set my mailcap up - there are simpler ways of doing 
 it, but I add all the test segments so that the correct command is 
 chosen by mutt.
 
 # this uses xv only if there's an X server, and only if I have xv
 image/*; xv %s; test=test -n $DISPLAY  type xv /dev/null
 # this uses open only on OSX and only if I'm not using ssh
 image/*; open %s; copiousoutput; test=test `uname -s` = Darwin -a -z
 $SSH_CLIENT
 
 Though I recently discovered there's a cooler way to view images on 
 OSX:
 
 image/*; qlmanage -p %s 2/dev/null; test type qlmanage -a -z
 $SSH_CLIENT 
 
  Does urlview work as expected,
 
 Yes, generally (you have to configure it), but I prefer 
 extract_url.pl, because it's better at handling unusual and more 
 modern email encodings that allow URLs to be broken into multiple 
 lines.
 
  are you using vim for the editor and did you get your vim 
  configurations ported over ok?
 
 ...ported? I use the same vimrc for all of my machines as well.
 
 Seriously, I think you're building this up in your mind as some kind 
 of gargantuan task, and it's really quite simple. As long as you don't 
 rely on /usr/bin/sendmail (which is usually asking for trouble 
 *anyway*), and as long as you know the right commands for all your 
 viewers (on OSX, the right command is almost always `open`), you'll be 
 just fine. The only way you could possibly have much trouble is if you 
 have a lot of extremely machine-specific stuff in your muttrc.
 
 ~Kyle


Thanks Kyle.  Hopefully it *is* just a case of building this up to be
more than it is. ;-)

I remember having to do a lot of 'tweaking' a while back when I was
trying to get things setup on a FreeBSD install, so I assumed (perhaps
wrongly) that the situation might be similar with OS X.

By chance, are you using the default Mac terminal program, iTerm, or
something else entirely for the terminal?

Thanks!
-- 
  Trey Sizemore
  t...@fastmail.fm



Re: Running mutt on Mac OS X

2009-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:24:53 -0600, Kyle Wheeler
kyle-m...@memoryhole.net said:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Friday, January  2 at 01:08 PM, quoth Trey Sizemore:
  I remember having to do a lot of 'tweaking' a while back when I was 
  trying to get things setup on a FreeBSD install, so I assumed 
  (perhaps wrongly) that the situation might be similar with OS X.
 
 Well, OSX is built on FreeBSD, so it's going to be similar to that. 
 What sort of tweaking did you have to do? Certainly paths to 
 external programs are going to be somewhat different, so that's to be 
 expected...

Yeah, it was mostly paths to programs, I believe.  Also, there may have
been different versions of programs that didn't support some features.

 
  By chance, are you using the default Mac terminal program, iTerm, or 
  something else entirely for the terminal?
 
 I used to use xterm, but these days I use the default Terminal.app. 
 But that's a battle in and of itself. (more in a moment)
 
 ~Kyle
-- 
  Trey Sizemore
  t...@fastmail.fm



Re: Running mutt on Mac OS X

2009-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:41:00 -0800, John Velman vel...@cox.net said:
 I'm a long time Linux user (RedHad, Slackware), and last year when the
 new
 iMac with OSX 10.5 came out, I couldn't resist -- but with a lot of
 trepidation.
 
 My worries were completely unfounded.  True, some things work differently
 than what you may be used to.  You'll have to find those yourself.  The
 following goes beyond your question, but maybe you'll find it useful.
 
 In my case, after doing a lot of googling, I immediately installed both
 Fink and MacPorts in order to get some things I was used to.  Turned
 out
 to be unnecessary (at least for me), and eventually, I got rid of them
 both, completely. The console things I wanted that weren't included, I
 compiled using the built in tools with no problem.  The GUI things I
 wanted, I was able to find Mac versions of.  Except Ghostscript.  Haven't
 found a postscript reader (free) for OS X.  But I just got used to the
 builtin ps to pdf converter.  I had trouble finding a decent (free)
 newsreader, but finally settled on OSXnews 2.081.  It has some issues,
 but
 generally works pretty well (http://OSXnews.sf.net).  I would advise
 holding off on Fink and MacPorts unless you find they are absolutely
 necessary.
 
 Another thing -- I thought I'd be using the built-in X-windows a lot.
 Eventually decided it was a pain in the neck (although it works pretty
 well, except for not using some of the native mac capabilities and look
 --
 and cluttering up the toolbar).  The things I really wanted a gui for
 were
 available in a mac-cocoa or carbon version.  
 
 Things to get:  First thing: get MacVim.  Uses the core vim but with a
 Mac
 cocoa gui wrapper.  It's great.  http://code.google.com/p/macvim/.  I'm
 using MacVim to write this email as the editor used by Mutt.  I compiled
 mutt from source with no problem.  
 
 Another thing you might want to look into:  NeoOffice as the OpenOffice
 version for OS X,  (I don't have the url handy, but it's easy to find).  
 There are a lot of choices for a web browser (and for text only browsers
 to
 use with mutt.)  I used Firefox for quite a while, and while I like it's
 plugins, it started starting an X which it seemed to not be using, and I
 had to terminate by hand.  Strange.  I submitted a bug report, but got no
 response.  I finally switched over to Camino (http://caminobrowser.org/).
 
 And the final thing I'll mention: The XCode IDE, the Cocoa platform for
 programming Mac applications, and Objective-C, the language used by
 Cocoa.
 But that's another story.
 
 Best,
 
 John Velman
 

Thanks John.  That was some great info.  I have a lot of the same
questions around things you've already been through.

I'll give MacVim a try.  Plus it looks like there's a way to access the
Mac addressbook so that I don't need to use abook anymore.

Much appreciated info.


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Re: Running mutt on Mac OS X

2009-01-02 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri Jan 02, 2009 01:35PM, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 On Friday, January  2 at 02:22 PM, quoth Trey Sizemore:
  Well, OSX is built on FreeBSD, so it's going to be similar to that. 
  What sort of tweaking did you have to do? Certainly paths to 
  external programs are going to be somewhat different, so that's to 
  be expected...
 
  Yeah, it was mostly paths to programs, I believe.
 
 shrug That's why I typically try to avoid using full paths to 
 programs, and instead use my ~/.bashrc to carefully craft my $PATH 
 variable.
 
  Also, there may have been different versions of programs that didn't 
  support some features.
 
 Yeah... again, I handle most of that kind of thing in my ~/.bashrc, 
 rather than in my muttrc or vimrc. If it helps: 
 http://www.memoryhole.net/~kyle/bashrc.html
 
 ~Kyle

Thanks Kyle.

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Re: Show forwarded mail in index

2008-03-22 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:49AM, Rado S wrote:
 =- Trey Sizemore wrote on Thu 20.Mar'08 at 14:09:25 -0400 -=
 
  When I reply to a mail, my index will show an 'r' in the index to
  designate such. However, there's nothing in the index to show that
  I forwarded a message (like an 'f' or 'F').
  Can such a designation be achieved?
 
 With the current code only with some macro hacks.
 A code patch might be more convenient, but would require policy
 decisions and compatibility considerations with IMAP.
 I tried to add the group-replied flag 'g', but it wasn't trivial
 to make it work with IMAP.
 

Too bad...but thank you for the feedback.

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Show forwarded mail in index

2008-03-20 Thread Trey Sizemore
When I reply to a mail, my index will show an 'r' in the index to
designate such.  However, there's nothing in the index to show that I
forwarded a message (like an 'f' or 'F').

Can such a designation be achieved?

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And no man see me more.
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X-Face viewing and creation

2007-09-07 Thread Trey Sizemore
Hi-

Can someone point me to a good reference on being able to view X-Face
headers in mutt as well as adding them to outgoing mails (preferably
color)?

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Re: X-Face viewing and creation

2007-09-07 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:03AM, Christoph Berg wrote:
 Re: Trey Sizemore 2007-09-07 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Can someone point me to a good reference on being able to view X-Face
  headers in mutt as well as adding them to outgoing mails (preferably
  color)?
 
 http://www.df7cb.de/projects/mutt/x-face/
 
 No idea about color, I think that's some other header. (X-Image?)
 
 Christoph


Yes, as a previous responder mentioned, I should have said 'Face'
header vs. 'X-Face' header.

So any info about using and viewing 'Face' headers with mutt is
greatly appreciated.

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Extract URL's from message

2007-05-09 Thread Trey Sizemore
I remember a while back I had a setup with mutt that allowed me to
extract all URL's from a message and display them (numbered) in a
separate window.  I could then choose a URL to open by selecting its
number and it would open in my browser of choice.

I've been googling to find the proper 'recipe' for my .muttrc.  Anyone
have what I'm talking about?

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Re: Extract URL's from message

2007-05-09 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Thu May 10, 2007 11:51AM, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
 0n Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:38:39PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: 
 
 I remember a while back I had a setup with mutt that allowed me to
 extract all URL's from a message and display them (numbered) in a
 separate window.  I could then choose a URL to open by selecting its
 number and it would open in my browser of choice.
 
 I've been googling to find the proper 'recipe' for my .muttrc.  Anyone
 have what I'm talking about?
 
 urlview is a screen oriented program for extracting URLs from
  text files and displaying a menu from which you may launch a
  command to view a specific item.
  
  urlview uses a regular expression to extract URLs from the
  specified text files.
 
 $HOME/.mutt/keybindings
 
 macro index \cb |urlview\n 'call urlview to extract URLs out of a message'
 macro pager \cb |urlview\n 'call urlview to extract URLs out of a message'
 
  -aW
 

Thanks.  Does anyone happen to know what the correct syntax is in
url_handler.sh to get the URL's opened in new tabs in Firefox?  I've
gotten as close as getting the first URL to open, but selecting a
second results in:

Error: Failed to send command: 500 command not parseable

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Re: no fcc with command-line sending

2007-04-15 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:48:58 -0700
Michael Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:31:54PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  How are you getting 1.5.15cvs?  CVS still appears to provide me with
  1.5.14 from February :-(
 
 There are nightly snapshots from the mercurial repository at
 http://dev.mutt.org/nightlies/
 
 me

Thanks.  I'm curious as to why what is obtained via CVS has not been
changed since February.  The updates are usually much more frequent.

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Re: no fcc with command-line sending

2007-04-14 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:13:07 +0200
Rado S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Moin Greg Novack,
 
 if you recall, we had some discussion about -i and '' or '|'
 cmd-line sending behave differently with regard to fcc.
 I just noticed that even though using script | mutt the mails
 _are_ fcc'ed normally. But I'm not using fcc to IMAP, so there
 might be a difference.
 
 Did you observe your behaviour with local fcc folders, too?
 Do you use fcc-hooks or just record+copy?
 Have you upgraded to the latest mutt (1.5.15)?
 

How are you getting 1.5.15cvs?  CVS still appears to provide me with
1.5.14 from February :-(

Thanks.


Accented characters not showing in pager

2007-04-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
I received an e-mail recently in which there were a number of accented
in the message body.  However, these characters did not appear, only
blank space where they should have been.

Opening this e-mail in another mailer on the same machine displayed the
characters.  I'm trying to discern why mutt is not displaying the
characters and other mailers are.

I thought perhaps there was something in .muttrc overriding the locale
setting, but I can find nothing.

The output of locale on my box shows:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Where else might I look to troubleshoot this?

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Re: Accented characters not showing in pager

2007-04-13 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:36:48 +0200
TALEB Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [2007-04-13, 11:36 -0400], Trey Sizemore writes:
  
  Where else might I look to troubleshoot this?
 
 French characters ? If so try :
 
 $ LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR.UTF-8;export LC_MESSAGES

These characters:

àáäèéëìíïòóöùúü

-Trey