Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread Jason Helfman

I suppose you could make a fcc-hook to an outbox, then setup a send-hook
from that outbox. This would more then likely do that job.

Manual.

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas muttered:
| Hello,
| 
| I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail
| configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue
| when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message
| it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make
| a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but
| from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this).
| 
| Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I
| have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this?
| 
| Please reply to me directly, since I am not subscribed to this list.
| 
| Thanks.
| 
| Damien.

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Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Damien Tougas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 23 Aug 2000:
 Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I
 have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this?

When you send an email, Mutt calls a program defined in the $sendmail
Mutt configuration variable.  If you want to use some kind of "send
later" scheme, it's probably best if you create your own custom setup
for this.

I personally would recommend ditching sendmail altogether and using
something like MasqMail or something which has been created for dialup
use.  I don't know what kind of delayed-mailing features they have,
though, but probably better than sendmail anyway.

Or you could just write a custom script that saves the email in some
special folder (or whatever data format you want to use), from where
the emails are then sent by another script once you're online.


In any case, Mutt doesn't have any kind of "send later" feature, except
that you can choose your delivery program yourself.


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Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread rex

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas wrote:
 
 I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail
 configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue
 when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message
 it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make
 a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but
 from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this).
 
I'm using Sendmail on a dialup and it queues messages when offline. When
Mutt sends a message it's put in the queue and no dialup is initiated.
Later, when I connect, I type "sendmail -q" and the queued messages are
sent. Unfortunately, I don't remember where this is configured, but at
least you know it's possible to stop sendmail/PPPd from dialing every time
a message is queued (I think this is a PPPd issue).

If someone else doesn't point out what needs to be configured, let me know
and I'll dig into it more.

Regards,

-rex





RE: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread Larry Rosenman

sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly.

(from man sendmail:

DeliveryMode=x
  Set the delivery mode to x. Delivery modes are
i
   interactive (synchronous) delivery
b
   background (asynchronous) delivery
q
   queue only; that is, actual delivery is done the next time
   the queue is run
d
   deferred; the same as q except that database lookups
   (notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided

)

See also the sendmail operations guide.

LER


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On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400, Damien Tougas wrote:

 I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail
 configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue
 when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message
 it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make
 a connection to the net. (I know that this is Sendmail's fault, but
 from what I can see, there is no way to prevent Sendmail from doing this).

I'm using Sendmail on a dialup and it queues messages when offline. When
Mutt sends a message it's put in the queue and no dialup is initiated.
Later, when I connect, I type "sendmail -q" and the queued messages are
sent. Unfortunately, I don't remember where this is configured, but at
least you know it's possible to stop sendmail/PPPd from dialing every time
a message is queued (I think this is a PPPd issue).

If someone else doesn't point out what needs to be configured, let me know
and I'll dig into it more.

Regards,

-rex





Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 11:29 -0500 24 Aug 2000, Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly.

It can also be done on the command line by including the -odq option.
But

 d
deferred; the same as q except that database lookups
(notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided

would probably be more appropriate here.  It can be set on the command
line using -odd .

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Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread rex

On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:29:38AM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 sendmail can be configured in the sendmail.cf to use mode=queueonly.
 
 (from man sendmail:
 
 DeliveryMode=x
   Set the delivery mode to x. Delivery modes are
 i
interactive (synchronous) delivery
 b
background (asynchronous) delivery
 q
queue only; that is, actual delivery is done the next time
the queue is run
 d
deferred; the same as q except that database lookups
(notably DNS and NIS lookups) are avoided

My sendmail.cf is:

O DeliveryMode=background

and no dialup is initiated if the PC is offline when mail is sent. If
the PC is online, the mail is sent immediately.

-rex



Re: Configuring Mutt with Sendmail and PPP.

2000-08-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

*[Damien Tougas on Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:45PM -0400]:

 I am using Mutt on a laptop, with a dialup connection. I have Sendmail
 configured to queue messages, and I force processing of the mailqueue
 when I connect via PPP. The problem is, every time mutt sends a message
 it forces sendmail to do a DNS lookup which in turn causes PPPd to make
 
In /etc/sendmail.cf (or /etc/mail/sendmail.cf in sendmail 8.10.x and above)
just set 

o HoldExpensive = True  (default is false)

Mail is queued on your local sendmail queue - /var/spool/mqueue in redhat - and
you can process the queue by /usr/sbin/sendmail -q

A complete howto is given on the ILUG Hyderabad homepage at
http://linuxindia.virtualave.net/vsnlcon.html

 Is there any way that I can make Mutt process my outgoing mail after I
 have composed all of my messages? Is there another way of doing this?

hth
-suresh

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