Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-22 Thread Brendan Cully

On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 21:05, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm about to get serious about using mutt with IMAP4, I gather that
> the 'unstable' 1.1 version is likely to have more IMAP functions and
> features available.  Is there an easy way to find out what it can do
> compared with the 1.0 version?

There's a README (and a BUGS) in the imap directory of the latest 
development versions. Or, I've just set up (5 minutes ago) a tiny web
page (maybe it will grow) where I'll post news about Mutt's IMAP
support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-22 Thread Brendan Cully

On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 23:44, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 21:05, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm about to get serious about using mutt with IMAP4, I gather that
> > the 'unstable' 1.1 version is likely to have more IMAP functions and
> > features available.  Is there an easy way to find out what it can do
> > compared with the 1.0 version?
> 
> There's a README (and a BUGS) in the imap directory of the latest 
> development versions. Or, I've just set up (5 minutes ago) a tiny web
> page (maybe it will grow) where I'll post news about Mutt's IMAP
> support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.

http://www.kublai.com/~brendan/mutt/imap.html

Sorry about that - I'm worse with URLs than patches...

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-23 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:44:21PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 21:05, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm about to get serious about using mutt with IMAP4, I gather that
> > the 'unstable' 1.1 version is likely to have more IMAP functions and
> > features available.  Is there an easy way to find out what it can do
> > compared with the 1.0 version?
> 
> There's a README (and a BUGS) in the imap directory of the latest 
> development versions. Or, I've just set up (5 minutes ago) a tiny web
> page (maybe it will grow) where I'll post news about Mutt's IMAP
> support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.

And is there a general document describing differences between 1.0 and
1.1?  I presume not all changes were IMAP related.

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-23 Thread Chris Green

On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:45:39PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 23:44, Brendan Cully wrote:
> > On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 21:05, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I'm about to get serious about using mutt with IMAP4, I gather that
> > > the 'unstable' 1.1 version is likely to have more IMAP functions and
> > > features available.  Is there an easy way to find out what it can do
> > > compared with the 1.0 version?
> > 
> > There's a README (and a BUGS) in the imap directory of the latest 
> > development versions. Or, I've just set up (5 minutes ago) a tiny web
> > page (maybe it will grow) where I'll post news about Mutt's IMAP
> > support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.
> 
> http://www.kublai.com/~brendan/mutt/imap.html
> 
> Sorry about that - I'm worse with URLs than patches...
> 
Excellent, thanks very much, just what I needed.  Get ready to receive
all sorts of odd complaints and bug reports!  :-)

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-23 Thread Chris Green

On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 09:42:21PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.
> > 
> > http://www.kublai.com/~brendan/mutt/imap.html
> > 
> > Sorry about that - I'm worse with URLs than patches...
> > 
> Excellent, thanks very much, just what I needed.  Get ready to receive
> all sorts of odd complaints and bug reports!  :-)
> 
Er, however

* Tab-completion of IMAP folder names
It works too, at my first try of using it.

* Folder browsing
How do I actually do this?  If I enter the IMAP server name I just get
my inbox, I also get my inbox when I enter {mailandnews.co.uk}/, in
fact I seem to get the inbox whatever I do.

* Go-fast stripes
* Postponed-message support
* Server-side copy
What does this mean?  Does it mean I can copy/move messages to another
IMAP folder on the server?  If so, how?

* Fast sync
* Secure login (GSSAPI and CRAM-MD5)
Worked forst time with CRAM-MD5 for me, mutt was the first program to
tell me the server had this!

* More and better segfaults
Hey, I just got one of those!  :-)   I entered '{}' in response to the
'Chdir to:' prompt and mutt expired.

* Attach messages from IMAP folders
* Use an IMAP path as your Maildir (set folder='')
* Preserve message keywords
* Preserve deleted messages if you don't choose to expunge them

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-23 Thread Brendan Cully

On Saturday, 23 October 1999 at 22:19, Chris Green wrote:
> * Folder browsing
> How do I actually do this?  If I enter the IMAP server name I just get
> my inbox, I also get my inbox when I enter {mailandnews.co.uk}/, in
> fact I seem to get the inbox whatever I do.

Maybe it's a dumb question, but have you created other folders on your
server?

> * Server-side copy
> What does this mean?  Does it mean I can copy/move messages to another
> IMAP folder on the server?  If so, how?

yes. There's no trick, it's just like regular copy only messages aren't
downloaded and reuploaded. Tag some messages and copy them. Mutt will
create a new folder for you if the destination doesn't already exist.
Note there's currently no way to delete folders in mutt. That would be a
trivial enhancement, actually...

> * Secure login (GSSAPI and CRAM-MD5)
> Worked forst time with CRAM-MD5 for me, mutt was the first program to
> tell me the server had this!

Excellent!

> * More and better segfaults
> Hey, I just got one of those!  :-)   I entered '{}' in response to the
> 'Chdir to:' prompt and mutt expired.

Hmm, I'll look at that...

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-23 Thread Brendan Cully

On Saturday, 23 October 1999 at 23:52, Brendan Cully wrote:
> > * More and better segfaults
> > Hey, I just got one of those!  :-)   I entered '{}' in response to the
> > 'Chdir to:' prompt and mutt expired.
> 
> Hmm, I'll look at that...

Ok, I've got that fixed. It will be in CVS within a couple of days.
Thanks for the report.

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-24 Thread Chris Green

On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:52:41PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 October 1999 at 22:19, Chris Green wrote:
> > * Folder browsing
> > How do I actually do this?  If I enter the IMAP server name I just get
> > my inbox, I also get my inbox when I enter {mailandnews.co.uk}/, in
> > fact I seem to get the inbox whatever I do.
> 
> Maybe it's a dumb question, but have you created other folders on your
> server?
> 
Yes, definitely, I have a dozen or twenty folders on the server.
They're all at the same 'level' as the inbox if you see what I mean.

> > * Server-side copy
> > What does this mean?  Does it mean I can copy/move messages to another
> > IMAP folder on the server?  If so, how?
> 
> yes. There's no trick, it's just like regular copy only messages aren't
> downloaded and reuploaded. Tag some messages and copy them. Mutt will
> create a new folder for you if the destination doesn't already exist.
> Note there's currently no way to delete folders in mutt. That would be a
> trivial enhancement, actually...
> 
OK, I'll try that, thanks.  What I'd *really* like is a 'move' facility
 as this is typically what I use the IMAP server for.

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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-25 Thread Brendan Cully

On Sunday, 24 October 1999 at 20:41, Chris Green wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:52:41PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> > Maybe it's a dumb question, but have you created other folders on your
> > server?
> > 
> Yes, definitely, I have a dozen or twenty folders on the server.
> They're all at the same 'level' as the inbox if you see what I mean.

I guess you figured this one out? I think you were pressing 'c' in the
index instead of the browser...

> > yes. There's no trick, it's just like regular copy only messages aren't
> > downloaded and reuploaded. Tag some messages and copy them. Mutt will
> > create a new folder for you if the destination doesn't already exist.
> > Note there's currently no way to delete folders in mutt. That would be a
> > trivial enhancement, actually...
> > 
> OK, I'll try that, thanks.  What I'd *really* like is a 'move' facility
>  as this is typically what I use the IMAP server for.

er, what 's' does is copy the messages then mark them deleted. 'C' does
the copy without the delete. That should work fine, no? Otherwise you can
make a macro to save them and then sync, which should look like a move.
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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?

1999-10-26 Thread Chris Green

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 04:20:41PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> > OK, I'll try that, thanks.  What I'd *really* like is a 'move' facility
> >  as this is typically what I use the IMAP server for.
> 
> er, what 's' does is copy the messages then mark them deleted. 'C' does
> the copy without the delete. That should work fine, no? Otherwise you can
> make a macro to save them and then sync, which should look like a move.

Of course it does, silly me!  :-)

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