Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-16 Thread John P Verel

On 04/15/02, 06:33:32PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> > Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
> > reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
> > will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.
> 
> Yes, that hack is very simple:
> 
> man formail
> man procmail
> 
> Splitting up a single file which contains concatenated emails with no
> From_ line at all could be more of a problem. Try some formail options,
> if none help, use a short script (or your editor) and replace each
> "From: " with a "From\nFrom: ", then run formail.
> 
> Volker

When doing the above, formail generates but one ^From_ entry, From_
foo@bar.

I have done the following: Using sed, changed the address format from
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] (which is the way Outlook left it) to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  I
run the output of this though formail and, no matter what options I try,
it will only generate a From_ entry for the first mail message.  The
rest of the messages are unaffected.

man formail recommends formail -ds >new_mailbox.  This
does not work.

Any suggestions>
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-15 Thread David T-G

Volker --

...and then Volker Kuhlmann said...
% 
% > Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
% > reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
% > will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.
% 
% Yes, that hack is very simple:
% 
% man formail
% man procmail

Heh.  It's more than just that, I'm afraid.  If it isn't, then cough up
exact grammar so I can learn some magic, too.


% 
% Splitting up a single file which contains concatenated emails with no
% From_ line at all could be more of a problem. Try some formail options,

Exactly.  Go back to the beginning of the thread and see how he got this
far.  It ain't pretty.


% if none help, use a short script (or your editor) and replace each
% "From: " with a "From\nFrom: ", then run formail.

He's already done some mangling in vim, leaving himself with ^From_ lines
that quite possibly are less useful than none at all, but at least they
can be used as placeholders for something that should really go there.


% 
% Volker
% 
% -- 
% Volker Kuhlmann, list0570 at paradise dot net dot nz
% http://volker.orcon.net.nz/   Please do not CC list postings to me.


HAND

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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-15 Thread Volker Kuhlmann

> Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
> reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
> will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.

Yes, that hack is very simple:

man formail
man procmail

Splitting up a single file which contains concatenated emails with no
From_ line at all could be more of a problem. Try some formail options,
if none help, use a short script (or your editor) and replace each
"From: " with a "From\nFrom: ", then run formail.

Volker

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Re: PGP signature verification (was: Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem)

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 15:13]:
>* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 13:12:18 CEST] wrote:
>> * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
>> >* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
>> >> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
>> >> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
>> >Must be you. Verified here.
>> I cannot verify the following IDs (only checked April):
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Hmm, checked them and both verify. What does your
>$pgp_verify_command look like?
gpg --no-verbose --quiet --batch -o - --verify %s %f
As I said, it works on all messages except four of Davids.

I have some other random problems (which I reported here) since I
switched to 1.5.0, so maybe that's the reason?

Thorsten
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 16:53]:
I cannot verify this one.

Thorsten
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* David T-G [04/14/02 16:54:58 CEST] wrote:
> ...and then Thorsten Haude said...
> % * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
> % >* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
> % >> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
> % >> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
> % >Must be you. Verified here.
> % I cannot verify the following IDs (only checked April):
> % Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> % Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hmmm...  I guess that answers my other question, since I know I've posted
> more than twice... 

Sure.

> I try to construct my messages to avoid ^From_
> problems,

Me too.

> but if it's just two messages then that's a possible problem.
> Rocco, do you use something other than mbox which doesn't translate as
> mbox does?

No, I only use mbox. But in both messages affected, I can't
find anything which may lead to corrected message bodies which
can't be verified anymore.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread John P Verel

David,

On 04/13/02, 10:41:27PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 
> Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
> reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
> will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.  Don't try mucking with it in vim
> unless you only have two or three messages, in which case this should
> have been simple anyway.

As suggested, here's the first two messages from the file.  The messages
bodies, which were just plain text, are omitted for confidentiality:


From:   Robert F. Hugi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:20 AM
To: Verel,John(NXI); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[Deleted]

>Message here, deleted



From:   Davis, Christopher [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:21 PM 
To: Heyen,Keith A.(NXI); Verel,John(NXI)
Cc: Goldstein,Irving V.; Chazaud, Diana; Taylor, Gabriella
Subject:  [Deleted] 

>Message here, deleted


Thank you, David, and all.

John
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Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Martin Karlsson

David, 

* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-14 09.53 -0500]:

Thorsten said:
> % I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?

And you replied:
> I imagine it's you, but I've seen the same thing.  I thought it was a
> matter of signing/lsigning and a web of trust.  Does verification fail
> for all of my messages, I presume?  Does it succeed for anyone else?
 
Yes, it did for me, both via mutt and manually, so I deleted your
key, imported it agian, and you know what? It still succeeds!

Congratulations!


-- 
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"You can't teach people to be lazy -
 either they have it, or they don't." --Dagwood Bumstead




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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread David T-G

Thorsten, et al --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
% I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?

I imagine it's you, but I've seen the same thing.  I thought it was a
matter of signing/lsigning and a web of trust.  Does verification fail
for all of my messages, I presume?  Does it succeed for anyone else?


% 
% Thorsten
% -- 
% In dem Augenblick, wo wir anfangen unsere Freiheitsrechte
% einzuschränken, besorgen wird das Geschäft der Terroristen.
%   - Günter Grass


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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread David T-G

Thorsten, et al --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello again!


% 
% * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
% >* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
% >> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
% >> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
% >Must be you. Verified here.
% I cannot verify the following IDs (only checked April):
% Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
% Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hmmm...  I guess that answers my other question, since I know I've posted
more than twice...  I try to construct my messages to avoid ^From_
problems, but if it's just two messages then that's a possible problem.
Rocco, do you use something other than mbox which doesn't translate as
mbox does?


% 
% Thorsten
% -- 
% Denn ein Tyrann ist nicht, wenn die Masse nicht geduldig stillhält.
%   - Kurt Tucholsky


HTH & HAND

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PGP signature verification (was: Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem)

2002-04-14 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 13:12:18 CEST] wrote:
> * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
> >* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
> >> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
> >> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
> >Must be you. Verified here.
> I cannot verify the following IDs (only checked April):
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hmm, checked them and both verify. What does your
$pgp_verify_command look like?

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
>* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
>> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
>> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
>Must be you. Verified here.
I cannot verify the following IDs (only checked April):
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thorsten
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 12:17]:
>* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
>> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
>> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?
>Must be you. Verified here.
I can verify all other signatures, including yours. Where can be the
problem?

Thorsten
-- 
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Thorsten Haude [04/14/02 11:28:59 CEST] wrote:
> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
> I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?

Must be you. Verified here.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-14 05:41]:
I cannot verify your signature. Is it you or is it me?

Thorsten
-- 
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einzuschränken, besorgen wird das Geschäft der Terroristen.
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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-13 Thread David T-G

John --

...and then John P Verel said...
% 
% On 04/11/02, 12:36:45PM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
% > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-11 12:24]:
%  > 
% > > These big text files open fine with vim.  When I get home, I may have
...
% Using vim, I've gotten the From header to look like this:
% 
% >From Robert F. Jones [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
% 
% This, however, is not the standard mbox header, which, on my machine,
% looks like this:
% 
% >From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Apr  7 18:38:07 2000

Exactly.


% 
% When then run the edited file through formail, it does not add the
% correct missing From line.  Rather, it leaves the first instance of From

Right.


% as shown above unchanged and then escapes the remaining From lines with
% a >  I use the -b switch to stop this.  However, in no case does Mutt
% recognize the box as a valid mbox.  Any ideas?

Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.  Don't try mucking with it in vim
unless you only have two or three messages, in which case this should
have been simple anyway.


% 
% Thanks.
% 
% John

HTH & HAND


% 
% -- 
% John P. Verel
% Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!


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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-13 Thread John P Verel

On 04/11/02, 12:36:45PM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-11 12:24]:
 > 
> > These big text files open fine with vim.  When I get home, I may have
> > to fiddle with the From header to get things right.  But, this may
> > work.
> > 
> > I'll report back.
> 
> Try formail; I think it can add missing From lines.
> 
Using vim, I've gotten the From header to look like this:

>From Robert F. Jones [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

This, however, is not the standard mbox header, which, on my machine,
looks like this:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Apr  7 18:38:07 2000

When then run the edited file through formail, it does not add the
correct missing From line.  Rather, it leaves the first instance of From
as shown above unchanged and then escapes the remaining From lines with
a >  I use the -b switch to stop this.  However, in no case does Mutt
recognize the box as a valid mbox.  Any ideas?

Thanks.

John

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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread John P Verel

> Try formail; I think it can add missing From lines.
> 
> (darren)
> 

The Outlook file is formatted with the first line as, for example:

From:   John Q. Hacker

If I execute formail -ds >new_mailbox, as per man formail,
the new_mailbox has a first line of:

>From John

but stops there, not processing any other messages.  As this is my first
this is my first go with formail, I'm surely missing something.  Any
guidance will be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread darren chamberlain

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-11 12:24]:
> Well, in my best low tech manner, I think I've come up with something
> of promise.  What I did was:
> 
> 1)  Select all the messages in the inbox or outbox.  2)  Perform
> File|Save As and save the entire contents as a text file.
> 
> These big text files open fine with vim.  When I get home, I may have
> to fiddle with the From header to get things right.  But, this may
> work.
> 
> I'll report back.

Try formail; I think it can add missing From lines.

(darren)

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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation:
> 
> These big text files open fine with vim.  When I get home, I may have to fiddle with 
>the From header to get things right.  But, this may work.

That'll be easy.  One line of Perl or shell, most likely.

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RE: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, in my best low tech manner, I think I've come up with something of promise.  
What I did was:

1)  Select all the messages in the inbox or outbox.
2)  Perform File|Save As and save the entire contents as a text file.

These big text files open fine with vim.  When I get home, I may have to fiddle with 
the From header to get things right.  But, this may work.

I'll report back.

John

Original Message:
-
From: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:39:30 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlook pst import:  What file format should I use?


John --

..and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said...
%
% I've figured out how to convert Outlook mailboxes.  There are filters within

No, you haven't :-)


..
%
% As tomorrow is my last day with access to Outlook and these files, there is a
% bit of urgency to this.

If you don't like any of the methods already posted (eg Mozilla
importing), since you're there with LookOut! and your exchange server,
why not just use outhouse to copy the messages back up to your server
and then use mutt to pull them down via IMAP?  That worked dandily for me
when I had my first few months of mail all stuck in .pst files before
finally getting mutt built and installed where I was working...


%
% Thanks.

HTH & HAND and next time start thinking about this sooner :-)


%
% John


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Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread David T-G

John --

...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said...
% 
% I've figured out how to convert Outlook mailboxes.  There are filters within

No, you haven't :-)


...
% 
% As tomorrow is my last day with access to Outlook and these files, there is a
% bit of urgency to this.

If you don't like any of the methods already posted (eg Mozilla
importing), since you're there with LookOut! and your exchange server,
why not just use outhouse to copy the messages back up to your server
and then use mutt to pull them down via IMAP?  That worked dandily for me
when I had my first few months of mail all stuck in .pst files before
finally getting mutt built and installed where I was working...


% 
% Thanks.

HTH & HAND and next time start thinking about this sooner :-)


% 
% John


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Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread Simon White

11-Apr-02 at 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> I've figured out how to convert Outlook mailboxes.  There are filters within 
> Outlook to do this.  They give the following choices for converted format: 
> 
> -Comma seperated values (DOS) 
> -Comma seperated values (Windows) 
> -dBase 
> -Microsoft Access 
> -Microsoft Excel 
> -Microsoft FoxPro 
> -Tab Seperated Values (DOS) 
> 
> Which of these will work best to ultimately get into mbox format? 

None of the above. Better tools to do the job were discussed on the list
today. Those values from Outlook look more like conversions for Address
Books than mailboxes.

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