Re: followups (was Re: mutt and gnupg setup)
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:03:01PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Markus Nißl wrote: > > > > I will do so! Thanks again. > > > > BTW: no "cc:" to my address necessary, I'm subscribed to this > > list for a year now. > > well you're the one who has: > Mail-Followup-To: Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set. > > perhaps you want 'subscribe mutt-users' instead of 'lists mutt-users' in > your .muttrc? Yeap, I changed that. I hope it's okay now. But now, the index doesn't show the name of the sender anymore. It only says "to [EMAIL PROTECTED]". I suppose I have to adjust $index_format. Thanks for the hint, Markus
Re: followups (was Re: mutt and gnupg setup)
* Will Yardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020829]: > Markus Nißl wrote: > > > > I will do so! Thanks again. > > > > BTW: no "cc:" to my address necessary, I'm subscribed to this > > list for a year now. > > well you're the one who has: > Mail-Followup-To: Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > set. > > perhaps you want 'subscribe mutt-users' instead of 'lists mutt-users' in > your .muttrc? Or in case you seperate lists into folders and find the default from for listed things annoying, look into 'followup_to'.
followups (was Re: mutt and gnupg setup)
Markus Nißl wrote: > > I will do so! Thanks again. > > BTW: no "cc:" to my address necessary, I'm subscribed to this > list for a year now. well you're the one who has: Mail-Followup-To: Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set. perhaps you want 'subscribe mutt-users' instead of 'lists mutt-users' in your .muttrc? :> -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi David! On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 08:35:31PM -0700, David Ellement wrote: > On 020828, at 22:31:13, Markus Nißl wrote > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:48:17PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > > > And the conversion isn't necessary now because you can > > > recognize an old-style message with esc-P [...] > > > > Why can't mutt do that for me? > > It can, if you're willing to wait. I have this commented out in my > muttrc, because I found it too slow: > > folder-hook . "push 'T(!(~g | ~G)) ~b \"^-BEGIN PGP\"\n\eP\cT~A\n'" Thanks for the line, but I don't think I will use if it slows down things. I only kept wondering why mutt didn't display 's' in the index for an e-mail which I got from a friend. He uses "The Bat!" under Windows and PGP 6.5.8. I thought he had done something wrong when signing his e-mail because that 's' wasn't displayed. Now, I know what's going on. Regards, Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hey Gregor! On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:33:20PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > Hi Markus, > * Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27. Aug. 2002]: > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:21:52PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > > > Well, do I have to use that gpg-2comp in order to use gpg > > > > with mutt? > > > > > > You need this wrapper script if and only if you want to > > > communicate signed+encrypted with a person who uses pgp2.6.x > > > > So, in order to be able to communicate with anybody who uses > > any version of pgp or gnupg, I have to use that script. > > No. > > [...] Thanks a lot for your explanation! > My advise: Take this gpg.rc *without* the gpg-2comp lines and > use it happily until you run into problems. Perhaps you don't > because you do not communicate with persons who use old keys. I will do so! Thanks again. BTW: no "cc:" to my address necessary, I'm subscribed to this list for a year now. Regards, Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hello Justin! On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 06:06:38PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: > > > > S/MIME? Don't you mean PGP/MIME? > > > > Well, I only copied that part from Justin's tutorial. > > Oops! I will fix that in the revision (when I get it out...) Okay. At the end of your tutorial, you refer to the Mutt-GnuPG-PGP-HOWTO. Well, that one isn't that up to date. Some configuration variables don't exist anymore which are listed there to be used for a gnupg setup. So that information is a bit misleading :-( Bye, Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
On 020828, at 22:31:13, Markus Nißl wrote > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:48:17PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > > And the conversion isn't necessary now because you can > > recognize an old-style message with esc-P [...] > > Why can't mutt do that for me? It can, if you're willing to wait. I have this commented out in my muttrc, because I found it too slow: folder-hook . "push 'T(!(~g | ~G)) ~b \"^-BEGIN PGP\"\n\eP\cT~A\n'" -- David Ellement
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Markus Ni?l on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 10:31:13PM +0200: > > S/MIME? Don't you mean PGP/MIME? > > Well, I only copied that part from Justin's tutorial. Oops! I will fix that in the revision (when I get it out...) > > And the conversion isn't necessary now because you can recognize an > > old-style message with esc-P [...] > > Why can't mutt do that for me? I once spent a good chunk of time trying to get a message-hook to do this for me. Check back in the archives; a couple of people worked with me on it. I don't think we got anything to work out of it, though. - -- [!] Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Encrypted email preferred (key 0xC9C40C31) Mutt handy guides @ http://codesorcery.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9bUlu94d6K8nEDDERAlpRAJ9Jz61otT5xk57eFElEIo6xkhBFfwCfYs9O TYNn1FLikk6QHnBbLKzTBxo= =/klP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi David! On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:48:17PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > % > % On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:32:59PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: > % > > ... > % > See my guide at the URL below. > % > % Thanks a lot for the link! Good introduction, but I missed the > % "procmail recipe to rewrite old-style inline PGP messages as > % S/MIME messages" that you mentioned in your text. > > S/MIME? Don't you mean PGP/MIME? Well, I only copied that part from Justin's tutorial. > And the conversion isn't necessary now because you can > recognize an old-style message with esc-P [...] Why can't mutt do that for me? Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi Markus, * Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27. Aug. 2002]: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:21:52PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > > Well, do I have to use that gpg-2comp in order to use gpg > > > with mutt? > > > > You need this wrapper script if and only if you want to > > communicate signed+encrypted with a person who uses pgp2.6.x > > So, in order to be able to communicate with anybody who uses any > version of pgp or gnupg, I have to use that script. No. pgp version 2 (=pgp2) uses RSA keys in key format version 3. pgp2 is neither able to use other public key cryptography algorithms nor to use newer key formats. gpg is able to handle old (=pgp2) RSA format 3 keys -- to a certain degree: it is able to encrypt a message to such a key it is able to decrypt a message for such a key it is able to sign a message to such a key it is able to to verify a signature of a message for such a key it is able to decrypt and then verify the signature of an signed+encrypted message but it is *not* able to sign+encrypt a message to such a key in a way which pgp2 can operate succesfully on. This is where gpg-2comp comes in. You use it solely to sign a message with your old-style key and encrypt this signed message to an old-style key for a pgp2 user. In other cases you do not need gpg-2comp. > > Note that you can not communicate with this setup with a user > > who does not use RSA v3 keys... and if you do not use one. My advise: Take this gpg.rc *without* the gpg-2comp lines and use it happily until you run into problems. Perhaps you don't because you do not communicate with persons who use old keys. Ciao, Gregor -- "The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -- William Gibson
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Markus, et al -- ...and then Markus Nißl said... % % On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:32:59PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: % > ... % > See my guide at the URL below. % % Thanks a lot for the link! Good introduction, but I missed the % "procmail recipe to rewrite old-style inline PGP messages as % S/MIME messages" that you mentioned in your text. S/MIME? Don't you mean PGP/MIME? I don't know of anything that will convert PGP to S/MIME :-) And the conversion isn't necessary now because you can recognize an old-style message with esc-P and thus not risk mucking up your message by blatantly changing MIME headers. % % Bye, % % Markus HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg30454/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi Gregor! On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:21:52PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > > Well, do I have to use that gpg-2comp in order to use gpg > > with mutt? > > You need this wrapper script if and only if you want to > communicate signed+encrypted with a person who uses pgp2.6.x So, in order to be able to communicate with anybody who uses any version of pgp or gnupg, I have to use that script. > If so you must remove the comment hashes '#' on lines which use > gpg-2comp and set hashes '#' on the correspioning lines without > gpg-2comp usage. Okay, I did that. > Note that you can not communicate with this setup with a user > who does not use RSA v3 keys... I'm still pretty new to gnupg and cryptography in general. Which users does that affect? gnupg doesn't use RSA, does it? Thanks for your hints so far. Bye, Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi Justin! On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:32:59PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: > > > I have recently installed gnupg-1.0.7 and I'd like to use it > > with mutt. But I can't use gnupg with mutt out of the box: > > the muttrc has to modified to tell mutt explicitely the > > different commands to sign and encrypt, etc. Where can I find > > such a setup for gnupg? > > See my guide at the URL below. Thanks a lot for the link! Good introduction, but I missed the "procmail recipe to rewrite old-style inline PGP messages as S/MIME messages" that you mentioned in your text. Bye, Markus
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Markus Ni?l on Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 04:38:26PM +0200: > I have recently installed gnupg-1.0.7 and I'd like to use it with > mutt. But I can't use gnupg with mutt out of the box: the muttrc has > to modified to tell mutt explicitely the different commands to sign > and encrypt, etc. Where can I find such a setup for gnupg? See my guide at the URL below. - -- [!] Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Encrypted email preferred (key 0xC9C40C31) Mutt handy guides @ http://codesorcery.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9ap6L94d6K8nEDDERAgC6AJ0RBBqQAPMkl0WskviqY/6s8gW9twCfUr4m Gec4djvh2mrwhHMangV2GxE= =Pcow -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mutt and gnupg setup
Hi Markus, * Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [25. Aug. 2002]: > Hi mutt experts! > > I have recently installed gnupg-1.0.7 and I'd like to use it with > mutt. But I can't use gnupg with mutt out of the box: the muttrc > has to modified to tell mutt explicitely the different commands > to sign and encrypt, etc. Where can I find such a setup for > gnupg? > > I know, mutt-1.4 comes along with a gpg.rc in its contrib > directory, but at the beginning of the file, it says: > > # This version uses gpg-2comp from > # http://muppet.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de/~gero/gpg-2comp.tar.gz > > Well, do I have to use that gpg-2comp in order to use gpg with > mutt? You need this wrapper script if and only if you want to communicate signed+encrypted with a person who uses pgp2.6.x If so you must remove the comment hashes '#' on lines which use gpg-2comp and set hashes '#' on the correspioning lines without gpg-2comp usage. Note that you can not communicate with this setup with a user who does not use RSA v3 keys... But you can switch between different settings via macros. Ciao, Gregor -- "The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -- William Gibson
