Re: Embedding MySQL

2008-01-06 Thread Shawn Green

Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Hi,

I want to embed MySQL and install it with a freeware application I make. 
I hope it is legally to do this.


Please tell me where can I found more information about how can I do this.
The app will run under Windows.

Thank you.

Octavian




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Embedding MySQL

2008-01-02 Thread Octavian Rasnita

Hi,

I want to embed MySQL and install it with a freeware application I make. I 
hope it is legally to do this.


Please tell me where can I found more information about how can I do this.
The app will run under Windows.

Thank you.

Octavian


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Re: Embedding MySQL in application, probably developed in C#

2005-01-24 Thread elizabeth baker
Ian, thanks for your post.
This is all new territory for me. Doesn't a web-based app imply a 
server? Are you proposing to incorporate the server functionality on the 
CD? If so, does this HTTrack do this for you or does something like 
Apache have such utilities? If we develop this app for the web initially 
with the intention of burning it on CD's to be run locally from a 
browser, where would server functionality come from? Or am i missing 
something entirely here?

Obviously, i have downloaded pages from the web before and accessed them 
locally from my hard drive, but there was no need to search or engage in 
other db or app-related functionality in relationship to the pages. Our 
db data would be read-only, but users will still want search capability, 
ability to create and print reports, etc.

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Ian Gibbons wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 at 21:28, elizabeth baker wrote:
 

We are building an application for myths of the world. It started out in 
Access, but when we decided to distribute it via CD to attendees at an 
art retrospective (about myths of the world), we began looking for an 
alternative db, since not everyone has Access on their computer. There 
will be no charge for the retrospective or the application CD. The 
application will eventually be web-based and available on the internet.

MySQL was recommended to us, as was developing in C#. i have read that 
MySQL can be embedded in applications. Is this an advisable route for 
us? to develop and C# and embed MySQL in the application?

i'm somewhat at a loss as how to proceed, and time is running out. Any 
help/advice is greatly appreciated.
   

Hi Elizabeth,
I understand from you email that you have no personal preference to the database / 
language you write this application, only that you have been recommended MySQL 
and C#.

Therefore I would recommend you ignore the CD for now (bare with me!) and go 
ahead and write your web application with whatever DB and language you feel 
comfortable with.  All though I recommend you stay away from MS Access for a web 
based database as there all sorts of problems with locking / updating.

When you have completed your website you can then use a mirroring tool to create 
a copy of the website ( for windows I recommend HTTrack ).  You can then 
distribute this copy as a CD based website.

This also has the advantage of working on any platform that has a web browser and 
a CD drive.

Regards
Ian
 




Re: Embedding MySQL in application, probably developed in C#

2005-01-24 Thread Ian Gibbons
On 19 Jan 2005 at 21:28, elizabeth baker wrote:

> We are building an application for myths of the world. It started out in 
> Access, but when we decided to distribute it via CD to attendees at an 
> art retrospective (about myths of the world), we began looking for an 
> alternative db, since not everyone has Access on their computer. There 
> will be no charge for the retrospective or the application CD. The 
> application will eventually be web-based and available on the internet.
> 
> MySQL was recommended to us, as was developing in C#. i have read that 
> MySQL can be embedded in applications. Is this an advisable route for 
> us? to develop and C# and embed MySQL in the application?
> 
> i'm somewhat at a loss as how to proceed, and time is running out. Any 
> help/advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi Elizabeth,

I understand from you email that you have no personal preference to the 
database / 
language you write this application, only that you have been recommended MySQL 
and C#.

Therefore I would recommend you ignore the CD for now (bare with me!) and go 
ahead and write your web application with whatever DB and language you feel 
comfortable with.  All though I recommend you stay away from MS Access for a 
web 
based database as there all sorts of problems with locking / updating.

When you have completed your website you can then use a mirroring tool to 
create 
a copy of the website ( for windows I recommend HTTrack ).  You can then 
distribute this copy as a CD based website.

This also has the advantage of working on any platform that has a web browser 
and 
a CD drive.

Regards

Ian
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Re: Embedding MySQL in application, probably developed in C#

2005-01-20 Thread Daniel Kasak
elizabeth baker wrote:
We are building an application for myths of the world. It started out 
in Access, but when we decided to distribute it via CD to attendees at 
an art retrospective (about myths of the world), we began looking for 
an alternative db, since not everyone has Access on their computer. 
There will be no charge for the retrospective or the application CD. 
The application will eventually be web-based and available on the 
internet.

MySQL was recommended to us, as was developing in C#. i have read that 
MySQL can be embedded in applications. Is this an advisable route for 
us? to develop and C# and embed MySQL in the application?

i'm somewhat at a loss as how to proceed, and time is running out. Any 
help/advice is greatly appreciated.

--elizabeth
If you want a quick_and_dodgy way of doing it, you can do the front-end 
in MS Access developer, and have the data in MySQL.
I can't tell you about licensing issues with MySQL - I suppose it 
depends on whether your app is commercial or not, but you should track 
down the answer to this before going any further.

The developer version of Access lets you create installation packages 
that will put a 'runtime' version of MS Access on Windows computers - 
without the need for an Access or Office license. In reality, it's a 
pretty tricky thing to get working right. We had a bad enough time on 
our network, and we're all using Windows 2000. We had even more issues 
getting the thing to run on Windows NT4, and I hate to think what you'd 
have to go through to get it to install on other versions of Windows. 
But if you're familiar with Access already and you're pushed for time ( 
but you can handle testing your installation package on all different 
types of Windows installs ), then this may be the way to go. REMEMBER: 
this is the quick and dodgy solution, and I suppose you have to actually 
have the developer version of Access to start with.

If you don't like this option, I would go with either Perl or PHP. You 
can make an installer to get a LAMP system up and runnning fairly 
easily. I haven't done it, but I've read about it, and it doesn't look 
too hard.

If you don't like a web-based interface, you could look at 
http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/ - I've been using this setup for Rapid 
Application Development under Linux for quite some time now. It's a very 
nice system. Just grab Gtk2 for Windows, ActiveState Perl, and the 
Gtk2-Perl binaries and you're off.

As for C#, I've never used it, but I don't think you'll find too many 
MySQL users recommending it somehow - it's better to stick with open 
source solutions. MySQL gets far more testing with open source languages 
than with C#, and your tech support for open source systems is going to 
be far better as well.

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Re: Embedding MySQL in application, probably developed in C#

2005-01-20 Thread leegold

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:28:05 -0800, "elizabeth baker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> We are building an application for myths of the world. It started out in 
> Access, but when we decided to distribute it via CD to attendees at an 
> art retrospective (about myths of the world), we began looking for an 
> alternative db, since not everyone has Access on their computer. There 
> will be no charge for the retrospective or the application CD. The 
> application will eventually be web-based and available on the internet.
> 
> MySQL was recommended to us, as was developing in C#.

I like MYSQL and PHP esp. for the web.

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/php/2004/02/19/php_foundations.html




> i have read that 
> MySQL can be embedded in applications. Is this an advisable route for 
> us? to develop and C# and embed MySQL in the application?
> 
> i'm somewhat at a loss as how to proceed, and time is running out. Any 
> help/advice is greatly appreciated.
> 
> --elizabeth
> 
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Embedding MySQL in application, probably developed in C#

2005-01-20 Thread elizabeth baker
We are building an application for myths of the world. It started out in 
Access, but when we decided to distribute it via CD to attendees at an 
art retrospective (about myths of the world), we began looking for an 
alternative db, since not everyone has Access on their computer. There 
will be no charge for the retrospective or the application CD. The 
application will eventually be web-based and available on the internet.

MySQL was recommended to us, as was developing in C#. i have read that 
MySQL can be embedded in applications. Is this an advisable route for 
us? to develop and C# and embed MySQL in the application?

i'm somewhat at a loss as how to proceed, and time is running out. Any 
help/advice is greatly appreciated.

--elizabeth
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Re: Embedding MySQL...

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Robson

Nick,

You're going to be mostly out of luck.

You can ship a MySQL binary with a pre-configured config, and get the java 
app to exec the binary, and send a shutdown command when it's finished.

Alternatively you can assist me in developing my Type II driver for MySQL, 
then embed libmysqld in a native DLL which can be loaded with 
System.loadLibrary() or whatever it is.

Currently the Type II driver isn't very good though, because it doesn't 
support any operation except Statement.executeUpdate() which isn't much use.

unfortunately I have little time to develop this so it's unlikely to progress 
much - also my approach has been wrong - I've developed an independent driver 
when what I should really do is extend Mark Matthews' excellent type IV 
driver.

Cheers
Mark

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Embedding MySQL...

2002-05-20 Thread Nick Stuart

Is it possible to embed MySQL in a stand alone java app? I know you can do
it in c++/vb but waswandering if it was possible to do so in Java.
Thanks for the help!
-Nick



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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-12-16 Thread Michael Widenius


Hi!

> "Brian" == Brian P Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brian> You need to download the MySQL-4.0 source and compile for
Brian> embedded-server.  This is a library that you link your programs to.
Brian> It is used for small devices, like what we are doing here.

Brian> I haven't found any docs on it yet, but the header files give plenty or
Brian> explaination.

You can find plenty of docs at:

http://www.mysql.com/doc/l/i/libmysqld.html


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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Brian P. Austin

You need to download the MySQL-4.0 source and compile for
embedded-server.  This is a library that you link your programs to.
It is used for small devices, like what we are doing here.

I haven't found any docs on it yet, but the header files give plenty or
explaination.

Hope that helped

Brian Austin


On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Alex Page wrote:

> From: "Shawn P. Garbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:07 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Embedding MySQL in an application
> 
> 
> > The real point is, that a user can take the product out of shrink rap,
> > install it, run the program and never fiddle one iota with installation of
> > MySQL or even know that MySQL is running on the system.
> 
> So what you're essentially talking about is embedding the MySQL *binary* in
> an
> application? There are a lot of reasons why this is a bad idea - it'll
> replicate unnecessarily if more than one application does this, you won't be
> able to upgrade MySQL (to, say, fix security holes) without upgrading the
> application...
> 
> ...but I suppose that massively monolithic, repetitive code is the way of
> the Windows world...
> 
> > MySQL is entirely
> > embedded within the application. Sure I could write drivers in the
> database
> > module that did all this with flat-files, but ugh what a horrible thought.
> 
> In perl:
> 
> use DBI;
> if ( -x /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql ) {
> require DBD::mysql;
> } else {
> require DBD::CSV;
> }
> 
> But hey, perl's good like that.
> 
> > The plan is in the future as the product line grows is to eventually tie
> > several products together through a seperate database engine, or have then
> as
> > stand-alone packages.
> 
> This depends on your target platform. With your talk of Microsoft, I presume
> that
> you're developing for a Windows platform. The best way to do this, IMHO,
> would be
> to have the installation program for *your* application check to see if
> MySQL is
> installed (by poking in the registry?), and download and install it (perhaps
> invisibly) if it isn't (or you could include MySQL with the CD of your
> application, licensing issues permitting).
> 
> If you then want to port to (say) Linux, you could have the program package
> have a dependency on MySQL (this seems to work very well in Debian, not sure
> about RPM-based distribution) which would do exactly the same - check for
> MySQL on install, and install it invisibly if it's not there.
> 
> Hope this is of some use,
> 
> Alex
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Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Shawn P. Garbett

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I'm using Linux, Debian 2.2.2 and GNU C++ with Qt for the GUI under
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well. So the true target for now is Windows 98. Although a demo under linux
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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Alex Page

From: "Shawn P. Garbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Embedding MySQL in an application


> The real point is, that a user can take the product out of shrink rap,
> install it, run the program and never fiddle one iota with installation of
> MySQL or even know that MySQL is running on the system.

So what you're essentially talking about is embedding the MySQL *binary* in
an
application? There are a lot of reasons why this is a bad idea - it'll
replicate unnecessarily if more than one application does this, you won't be
able to upgrade MySQL (to, say, fix security holes) without upgrading the
application...

...but I suppose that massively monolithic, repetitive code is the way of
the Windows world...

> MySQL is entirely
> embedded within the application. Sure I could write drivers in the
database
> module that did all this with flat-files, but ugh what a horrible thought.

In perl:

use DBI;
if ( -x /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql ) {
require DBD::mysql;
} else {
require DBD::CSV;
}

But hey, perl's good like that.

> The plan is in the future as the product line grows is to eventually tie
> several products together through a seperate database engine, or have then
as
> stand-alone packages.

This depends on your target platform. With your talk of Microsoft, I presume
that
you're developing for a Windows platform. The best way to do this, IMHO,
would be
to have the installation program for *your* application check to see if
MySQL is
installed (by poking in the registry?), and download and install it (perhaps
invisibly) if it isn't (or you could include MySQL with the CD of your
application, licensing issues permitting).

If you then want to port to (say) Linux, you could have the program package
have a dependency on MySQL (this seems to work very well in Debian, not sure
about RPM-based distribution) which would do exactly the same - check for
MySQL on install, and install it invisibly if it's not there.

Hope this is of some use,

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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Stefan Hinz

Dear Shawn,

try PHP (www.php.net).

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> I have been told it is possible to embed MySQL in an application such
that
> the user never knows a database is running underneath the app. Where
can I
> find more information about doing this?
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Fwd: Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Shawn P. Garbett

>> I have been told it is possible to embed MySQL in an application such that
>> the user never knows a database is running underneath the app. Where can I
>> find more information about doing this?

>That's simple - as you write the application, keep the user interface and
>database totally seperate. It's as easy as writing any application that uses
>a database, you just have to worry a little more about which information you
>present to the user.

>I'm currently writing a database-backed web application (using perl and
>Template Toolkit) where the user will never have to know about the existence
>of keys or anything like that. As it happens, the code doesn't *have* to run
>off a database at all (it's nicely modular) but it's the best way of
>organising my information.

I didn't make myself clear. Of course a user should NEVER see a database key. 
The design of the software will have a distinctly separate database module. 
The real point is, that a user can take the product out of shrink rap, 
install it, run the program and never fiddle one iota with installation of 
MySQL or even know that MySQL is running on the system. MySQL is entirely 
embedded within the application. Sure I could write drivers in the database 
module that did all this with flat-files, but ugh what a horrible thought. 
The plan is in the future as the product line grows is to eventually tie 
several products together through a seperate database engine, or have then as 
stand-alone packages.

Microsoft advertises their MSDE (MS Data Engine), which does just this. Sits 
inside a program and the user never has to do any database adminstration 
functions--it's completly integrated into the program. Then their is the 
option for a seemless upgrade to MS SQL Server when more power is needed. At 
least that's the ad. My experience with MS products suggests that MSDE won't 
work and then for a mere $(excessive figure here) I can upgrade to SQL 
Server. I feel like it could be the classic bait and switch ploy on the part 
of MS.

The MySQL folks have told me that this has been done and will be fully 
supported as part of the next release. Problem is I have to demonstrate it 
NOW, or I may end up stuck with MSDE since it exists NOW. MySQL is my 
preferred option and I'd love to stick with it across all platforms the 
product will be ported to.

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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Sebastiaan J.A. Kamp

Documentation for any programming language that supports / has an interface
to / uses MySQL.
Try PHP (www.php.net), Perl (http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/perl-man), or
one of the many others.

Regards,

Sebastiaan J.A. Kamp

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> I have been told it is possible to embed MySQL in an application such that
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Re: Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Tadej Guzej

You could be more specific:
Try specifying your programming language and operating system at least.

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> I have been told it is possible to embed MySQL in an application such that
> the user never knows a database is running underneath the app. Where can I
> find more information about doing this?
> --
> Shawn P. Garbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Embedding MySQL in an application

2001-08-09 Thread Shawn P. Garbett

I have been told it is possible to embed MySQL in an application such that 
the user never knows a database is running underneath the app. Where can I 
find more information about doing this? 
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Shawn P. Garbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
See http://www.garbett.org/public-key for my PGP key

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Embedding MySql

2001-06-19 Thread Ankur Agarwal

Hi,

I want to embed MySql in my application.
Please help me in doing this.

Ankur