Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-02 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Steven Nakhla wrote:

Why?  Well, we have our reasons.  Particularly because
we want an efficient way to handle millions of
messages, plus the ability to search/manipulate/data
mine through them using specific applications.
 

I hate to disappoint you, but mail storage as raw files is probably more 
efficient than using MySQL, but YMMV.  I've found qmail with 
Courier-IMAP to be so fast that I can't really say I'd want to try using 
a different back-end at all.  If you end up with any benchmarks, feel 
free to post them.

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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-02 Thread Brent Baisley
You may be able to do something with SquirrelMail. It's an email front 
end written in PHP, so you may be able to customize it for your needs. 
I actually have a need to store all emails in a database also, mainly 
to link emails with people for followups.
I actually do this right now, but I have a script that runs every 2 
minutes to transfer email to and from the mail server and the database. 
It's actually a kludge of pieces right now (FileMaker, Applescript, 
Outlook Express), which I am looking to replace with open source 
software.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 04:04 PM, Steven Nakhla wrote:

Are there currently any open-source mail servers that
utilize MySQL?  I know that there are some that will
authenticate against accounts stored in a MySQL
database, but I am looking for a mail server that
actually stores the messages in the database.
Ideally, I'd like to be able to setup an IMAP server
that stores everything via a MySQL backend.  Any
thoughts?  Recommendations?  Or is this not possible?
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MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Steven Nakhla
Are there currently any open-source mail servers that
utilize MySQL?  I know that there are some that will
authenticate against accounts stored in a MySQL
database, but I am looking for a mail server that
actually stores the messages in the database.  

Ideally, I'd like to be able to setup an IMAP server
that stores everything via a MySQL backend.  Any
thoughts?  Recommendations?  Or is this not possible?

Steve Nakhla
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800, Steven Nakhla wrote:

 Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize MySQL?

Yes, many.

 I know that there are some that will authenticate against accounts
 stored in a MySQL database, but I am looking for a mail server that
 actually stores the messages in the database.

Why, exactly?

Jeremy
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Steven Nakhla
Why?  Well, we have our reasons.  Particularly because
we want an efficient way to handle millions of
messages, plus the ability to search/manipulate/data
mine through them using specific applications.

SN


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 On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800, Steven
 Nakhla wrote:
 
  Are there currently any open-source mail servers
 that utilize MySQL?
 
 Yes, many.
 
  I know that there are some that will authenticate
 against accounts
  stored in a MySQL database, but I am looking for a
 mail server that
  actually stores the messages in the database.
 
 Why, exactly?
 
 Jeremy
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Ruben Safir
Well


To do selects on your mail archive?

BTW - I've heard that Linux Magazine has developed into a handsom
rag.  Congradulations.  I would never had thought it after seeing the
first issue.

Ruben

On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:15:00PM -0800, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800, Steven Nakhla wrote:
 
  Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize MySQL?
 
 Yes, many.
 
  I know that there are some that will authenticate against accounts
  stored in a MySQL database, but I am looking for a mail server that
  actually stores the messages in the database.
 
 Why, exactly?
 
 Jeremy
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:17:45PM -0800, Steven Nakhla wrote:

 Why?  Well, we have our reasons.

I'm sure you do.  But I'm curious to know them... unless they're
secret, of course. :-)

 Particularly because we want an efficient way to handle millions of
 messages, plus the ability to search/manipulate/data mine through
 them using specific applications.

Got it.

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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Jason Burfield
Take a look at dbmail.

http://www.dbmail.org

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On 4/1/03 4:04 PM, Steven Nakhla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are there currently any open-source mail servers that
 utilize MySQL?  I know that there are some that will
 authenticate against accounts stored in a MySQL
 database, but I am looking for a mail server that
 actually stores the messages in the database.
 
 Ideally, I'd like to be able to setup an IMAP server
 that stores everything via a MySQL backend.  Any
 thoughts?  Recommendations?  Or is this not possible?
 
 Steve Nakhla
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread mazur
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re: On Tue Apr 01 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800 Steven Nakhla wrote:

 Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize
MySQL?

Jeremey wrote:
Yes many.

 Steven wrote:
 I know that there are some that will authenticate against accounts
 stored in a MySQL database but I am looking for a mail server that
 actually stores the messages in the database.

Jeremey wrote:
Why exactly?

Jeremy

Well, I can answer the why, and say I built myself a web-based email
 application (Java/Tomcat/MySQL/Linux) so that my email would be
centralized.  I found myself working on and using one of about 6
computers each week, and my email was getting spread out over the
machines.  I wasn't interested in using a Yahoo/Hotmail type account,
as dealing with all the banners and flashing lights didn't attract me.
  So I decided to roll my own.

Now my email is stored on and handled through one server, in a MySQL
database.  I can search the heck out of it, and needless to say,
access it anywhere.  I'm now considering a java GUI app to manage my
mail (access via RMI perhaps), so having it in the database is very
convenient.

I suppose other people have their reasons for storing email in a
databaseanyone?

Rob Mazur
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Jeff Kilpatrick
This is not flamebait.  I'm not trying to be disagreeable or a jerk. 
Just a thought.

What about IMAP?

-jeff
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 re: On Tue Apr 01 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800 Steven Nakhla wrote:
 
  Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize
 MySQL?
 
 Jeremey wrote:
 Yes many.
 
  Steven wrote:
  I know that there are some that will authenticate against accounts
  stored in a MySQL database but I am looking for a mail server that
  actually stores the messages in the database.
 
 Jeremey wrote:
 Why exactly?
 
 Jeremy
 
 Well, I can answer the why, and say I built myself a web-based email
  application (Java/Tomcat/MySQL/Linux) so that my email would be
 centralized.  I found myself working on and using one of about 6
 computers each week, and my email was getting spread out over the
 machines.  I wasn't interested in using a Yahoo/Hotmail type account,
 as dealing with all the banners and flashing lights didn't attract me.
   So I decided to roll my own.
 
 Now my email is stored on and handled through one server, in a MySQL
 database.  I can search the heck out of it, and needless to say,
 access it anywhere.  I'm now considering a java GUI app to manage my
 mail (access via RMI perhaps), so having it in the database is very
 convenient.
 
 I suppose other people have their reasons for storing email in a
 databaseanyone?
 
 Rob Mazur
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread mazur
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 re: On Tue Apr 01 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800 Steven Nakhla wrote:
 
  Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize
 MySQL?
 
 Jeremey wrote:
 Yes many.
 
  Steven wrote:
  I know that there are some that will authenticate against
accounts
  stored in a MySQL database but I am looking for a mail server
that
  actually stores the messages in the database.
 
 Jeremey wrote:
 Why exactly?
 
 Jeremy
 
 Well I can answer the why and say I built myself a web-based email
  application (Java/Tomcat/MySQL/Linux) so that my email would be
 centralized.  I found myself working on and using one of about 6
 computers each week and my email was getting spread out over the
 machines.  I wasnt interested in using a Yahoo/Hotmail type account
 as dealing with all the banners and flashing lights didnt attract
me.
   So I decided to roll my own.
 
 Now my email is stored on and handled through one server in a MySQL
 database.  I can search the heck out of it and needless to say
 access it anywhere.  Im now considering a java GUI app to manage my
 mail (access via RMI perhaps) so having it in the database is very
 convenient.
 
 I suppose other people have their reasons for storing email in a
 databaseanyone?
 
 Rob Mazur
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re: This is not flamebait.  Im not trying to be disagreeable or a
jerk. 
Just a thought.

What about IMAP?

-jeff

Oh that's fine. :-)

I agree IMAP would do the trick.  I did it more as a pet project, and
as a way to explore Sun's JavaMail API.  It also gave me an excuse to
add another MySQL database to my collection!

In other words, it is my hobby project that I enjoy coding on the
side.
Rob Mazur
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Re: MySQL mail servers

2003-04-01 Thread Michael Brunson
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:15:00 -0800, Jeremy Zawodny used a few
recycled electrons to form:
| On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:04:59PM -0800, Steven Nakhla wrote:
| 
|  Are there currently any open-source mail servers that utilize MySQL?
| 
| Yes, many.
| 
|  I know that there are some that will authenticate against accounts
|  stored in a MySQL database, but I am looking for a mail server that
|  actually stores the messages in the database.
| 
| Why, exactly?

I know of one, but it isn't open source. It's called Iris and
was written in-house by one of our developers. Iris currently
processes all the email forwarding, pop, IMAP, etc for
directNIC.com customers. It supports filters, mailing lists,
archiving, RBLs, auto-responders, and probably a couple things I
forget... I'm trying to get him to add a NNTP interface for the
mailing lists now. ;-)

So I guess the short answer is yes, there is at least one. We
only use it in-house currently.

There might be others...

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