MySQL PHP Development IDE
This off topic, but one of our programmers is interested in NuSphere's PHPEd development interface and I would liek some feed back from other users. His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. I am well aware of the conflict a few months ago between MySQL and NuSphere, but I have never heard anything one way or the other about PHPEd. At nearly $500 per package, it is not a decision I wish to make without some feedback from the community. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? Any feed back (either to the list or me me privately) will be appreciated. Gerald Jensen - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL PHP Development IDE
His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? I've just finished using Quanta+ for doing a fairly small PHP frontend to a MySQL database. I didn't choose this for any reason other than it got installed on the Suse-based laptop I was using. Got to say though, it's pretty slick (syntax highlighting, inbuilt docs, inbuilt preview, etc) - and best of all free from Sourceforge. However, since I'm now getting more into the web development, (heck I quite like PHP!), side of things I'm now thinking of spending the USD49.99 (CD version, download-only is USD10 cheaper) and getting the uprated version - Quanta Gold - from TheKompany. Certainly the feature list and screenshots look good. To me, USD500 sounds an awful lot of money for a 'mere' PHP/Perl editor. The cynic in me would wonder if it's not overkill. I used to do all my PHP and Perl stuff just using the appropriate modes in Xemacs which is free. Xemacs doesn't have the nice inbuilt docs and project handling that Quanta does though. Just my personal opinion above. Regards Bob Cross. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or protected by other legal rules. It is not an offer or acceptance of an offer, nor shall it form any part of a legally binding contract. If you have received this communication in error, please let us know by reply then destroy it. You should not use, print, copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail is subject to possible data corruption, is not secure, and its content does not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. No representation or warranty is made as to the accuracy or completeness of the information and no liability is accepted for any loss arising from its use. This e-mail and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses. You should check for viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. This Company has no control over other websites to which there may be hypertext links and no liability is accepted in relation to those sites. This Company randomly monitors its e-mail system (including incoming e-mails) for operational purposes. Scottish Newcastle plc Registered in Scotland, Registered Number 16288 Registered Office: 33, Ellersly Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6HX * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL PHP Development IDE
This off topic, but one of our programmers is interested in NuSphere's PHPEd development interface and I would liek some feed back from other users. His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. If he's not really that interested in the mysql integration than I would say that you could probably go with a different IDE. PHPed's db integration and built-in php debugger are about the only two things that set it apart from other IDE's. I am well aware of the conflict a few months ago between MySQL and NuSphere, but I have never heard anything one way or the other about PHPEd. At nearly $500 per package, it is not a decision I wish to make without some feedback from the community. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? Any feed back (either to the list or me me privately) will be appreciated. Before you make a commitment, you can apply for a trial version of PHPed. You have to give them real contact information, (I think I've gotten like 5 sales-pitch emails since I downloaded my free trial 3 months ago.) So you can give it a shot before you buy... and at $500 you should probably try it first. As for feedback on experience with the editor: When you try to install the editor (at least this was what it did three months ago) It wants to install it's own copies of Apache and MySQL. kind of un-handy if you've got current installs you want to use. I think it gave you the option to keep your own, but after I got everything installed, the database integration wouldn't work. So I decided that I had free time on my hands, I hosed my installs of apache and mysql and let it install it's own stuff. after that I still couldn't get it to work properly. I probably could have tweeked something here or there and gotten everything to go, but my reaction was kind of like.. I'm going to pay $300 to have to play with it this much to get it to work? It just didn't seem worth it Given that I currently used allaire's homesite and the only things that PHPed had over that in features was the db integration and php debugger, and I had already worked out my own solutions to those problems. I recommend downloading the trial version before you buy. I also recommend downloading the trial version of homesite as well. Homesite gives you syntax highlighting, project management, web deployment. scriptable deployment wich lets you decide what gets sent, where it gets put etc... all in a script that you can re-run. Plus homesite let's you edit the ide to add in features that you may need (http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/) Or look into Quanta depending on what platform you plan on developing on. I found it ironic that if you buy PHPed standard, it only runs on windows platforms, and that if you decided to buy PHP advantage, then you get linux support. seems like it should be the other way around given that the product they are trying to sell was built on the back of Open Source technologies. Gerald Jensen - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: MySQL PHP Development IDE
InterAKT produce a Dreamweaver Ultradev extension called Phakt that is pretty good. It creates PHP scripts that manipulate MySQL databases. It is free and allows comparable functionality to the 'native' UltraDev languages (ASP, JSP, Cold Fusion). For more info - http://www.interakt.ro/products/PHAkt/ -Original Message- From: Todd Williamsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2002 14:58 To: 'Joel Wickard'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MySQL PHP Development IDE There is three options I use: 1. Macromedia Dreamweaver UltraDev4 with a PHP plugin or extension 2. PHPEdit, its free I forget the website. ItÂ’s a good IDE, but kinda annoying editor. 3. Notepad -Original Message- From: Joel Wickard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MySQL PHP Development IDE This off topic, but one of our programmers is interested in NuSphere's PHPEd development interface and I would liek some feed back from other users. His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. If he's not really that interested in the mysql integration than I would say that you could probably go with a different IDE. PHPed's db integration and built-in php debugger are about the only two things that set it apart from other IDE's. I am well aware of the conflict a few months ago between MySQL and NuSphere, but I have never heard anything one way or the other about PHPEd. At nearly $500 per package, it is not a decision I wish to make without some feedback from the community. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? Any feed back (either to the list or me me privately) will be appreciated. Before you make a commitment, you can apply for a trial version of PHPed. You have to give them real contact information, (I think I've gotten like 5 sales-pitch emails since I downloaded my free trial 3 months ago.) So you can give it a shot before you buy... and at $500 you should probably try it first. As for feedback on experience with the editor: When you try to install the editor (at least this was what it did three months ago) It wants to install it's own copies of Apache and MySQL. kind of un-handy if you've got current installs you want to use. I think it gave you the option to keep your own, but after I got everything installed, the database integration wouldn't work. So I decided that I had free time on my hands, I hosed my installs of apache and mysql and let it install it's own stuff. after that I still couldn't get it to work properly. I probably could have tweeked something here or there and gotten everything to go, but my reaction was kind of like.. I'm going to pay $300 to have to play with it this much to get it to work? It just didn't seem worth it Given that I currently used allaire's homesite and the only things that PHPed had over that in features was the db integration and php debugger, and I had already worked out my own solutions to those problems. I recommend downloading the trial version before you buy. I also recommend downloading the trial version of homesite as well. Homesite gives you syntax highlighting, project management, web deployment. scriptable deployment wich lets you decide what gets sent, where it gets put etc... all in a script that you can re-run. Plus homesite let's you edit the ide to add in features that you may need (http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/) Or look into Quanta depending on what platform you plan on developing on. I found it ironic that if you buy PHPed standard, it only runs on windows platforms, and that if you decided to buy PHP advantage, then you get linux support. seems like it should be the other way around given that the product they are trying to sell was built on the back of Open Source technologies. Gerald Jensen - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http
RE: MySQL PHP Development IDE
InterAKT produce a Dreamweaver Ultradev extension called Phakt that is pretty good. It creates PHP scripts that manipulate MySQL databases. It is free and allows comparable functionality to the 'native' UltraDev languages (ASP, JSP, Cold Fusion). For more info - http://www.interakt.ro/products/PHAkt/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL PHP Development IDE
At 06:37 AM 2/21/2002 , you wrote: This off topic, but one of our programmers is interested in NuSphere's PHPEd development interface and I would liek some feed back from other users. His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. I am well aware of the conflict a few months ago between MySQL and NuSphere, but I have never heard anything one way or the other about PHPEd. At nearly $500 per package, it is not a decision I wish to make without some feedback from the community. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? Any feed back (either to the list or me me privately) will be appreciated. Gerald Jensen Gerald, I tried PHPEd from NuSphere and it only partially worked. I spent a lot of time trying to get it to work properly and failed. :( I tried 4 or 5 different PHP debuggers and I didn't like any of them. Not being one to give up easily, I kept looking. I found an excellent PHP debugger and editor from https://sourceforge.net/projects/dbg2/. It took a little while getting it installed because there are no docs, but I've been using it for a month and couldn't be happier. The author Dmitri has borrowed a lot of ideas from the Delphi IDE so using it is quite intuitive. I use it as my main PHP editor. It is also faster than any other PHP debugger I've tried (there are no annoying delays or screen flashes when single stepping through the PHP code) and it can also debug into Include files which other debuggers may not be able to do. It can also display Local, Global, Call Stack, Watch, Immediate, Breakpoint windows at the bottom of the screen. It can also display arrays and all class object properties which is very cool. All in all, it's a great PHP editor/debugger. There are versions for Windows (which is what I'm using), BSD and Linux. You also get the source code for it and you'll definitely like the price. It's free. :-) Brent If you have a problem setting it up, shoot me off an email and I'll see what I can do. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: MySQL PHP Development IDE
Thanks for the advice ... I'll take a look at dbg2 ... if I get stuck, I'll shoot you a plea for help! Gerald Jensen -Original Message- From: BD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:38 AM To: Gerald R. Jensen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MySQL PHP Development IDE At 06:37 AM 2/21/2002 , you wrote: This off topic, but one of our programmers is interested in NuSphere's PHPEd development interface and I would liek some feed back from other users. His interest lies not so much in using for database table modeling, but for PHP and Perl development. I am well aware of the conflict a few months ago between MySQL and NuSphere, but I have never heard anything one way or the other about PHPEd. At nearly $500 per package, it is not a decision I wish to make without some feedback from the community. How does PHPEd stack up compared to other PHP IDE's? What experience (good or bad) has anyone had with it? Is there another product that is better? Any feed back (either to the list or me me privately) will be appreciated. Gerald Jensen Gerald, I tried PHPEd from NuSphere and it only partially worked. I spent a lot of time trying to get it to work properly and failed. :( I tried 4 or 5 different PHP debuggers and I didn't like any of them. Not being one to give up easily, I kept looking. I found an excellent PHP debugger and editor from https://sourceforge.net/projects/dbg2/. It took a little while getting it installed because there are no docs, but I've been using it for a month and couldn't be happier. The author Dmitri has borrowed a lot of ideas from the Delphi IDE so using it is quite intuitive. I use it as my main PHP editor. It is also faster than any other PHP debugger I've tried (there are no annoying delays or screen flashes when single stepping through the PHP code) and it can also debug into Include files which other debuggers may not be able to do. It can also display Local, Global, Call Stack, Watch, Immediate, Breakpoint windows at the bottom of the screen. It can also display arrays and all class object properties which is very cool. All in all, it's a great PHP editor/debugger. There are versions for Windows (which is what I'm using), BSD and Linux. You also get the source code for it and you'll definitely like the price. It's free. :-) Brent If you have a problem setting it up, shoot me off an email and I'll see what I can do. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
