Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv hard freezes my box!

[Dewey Smolka]

Sorry to be rude, but if it's a known issue you'll find it by searching.

I have no idea what your problem is because you haven't provided any
useful information. I'm guessing that your:

>2. Do you want to erase (some files)?

is the standrad prompt when starting mythtvsetup (do you want to clear
your card settings / channel settings). Nothing is being erased, and
if it doesn't work at this point there's no reason not to clear your
settings. I'm guessing that this is the first time you've tried this.

Don't Panic. You haven't got anything to clear, so just keep going. 

As far as your hard freeze. What do you expect anyone here to tell
you? What kernel are you running? What version of Myth? Was it from
apt-get? Compiled from source? CVS? What's your distro? Is this a
vanilla install, or have you already modified your kernel? What are
the specs (not model numbers) of your devices (CPU, RAM, etc)? What is
the debugging output from the terminal? How do you imagine that ACPI
has anything to do your problem?

What is your capture device (and how did you manage to get it into a
Dell laptop)?

Are you really planning to run a Myth backend off of a Dell laptop? 

Have you read the archives or the documentation at all? What do you
imagine your nvidia video out card has to do with mythbackend (which
is concerned with, and only with, video in?

My gut tells me that you have some reading to do. When you are able to
formulate a question that deals with a specific problem I'll be happy
to help you. Unitl then:

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc3

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/

Good luck
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Re: [mythtv-users] Initial Machine Parts

[Jo Shields]

Scott wrote:



On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Quentin Whitmyer wrote:

Ok, I am starting to put together a initial list of items I am  going 
to buy for my MythTV box. At moment I plan on going with the  all in 
one solution, however in the future I might get a second  little box 
for the front end.


So far I have:
2 Hauppage PVR 350
Maybe 1 pcHDTV HD-3000 for Future
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4400 or 4800
A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard, I like the AI-Cool Pipe option and it  
supports the AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Tech. for fans



I think the  only reason you would need this much CPU is to handle  
software decoding of HDTV streams. Since you have the HD3000 board  
chances are in the future you'll want a card that can do HDTV output.  
For that I would look at the some of the Gigabyte or eVGA cards found  
here: http://www.pcalchemy.com/index.php If you don't have any HDTV  
sources now (OTA by chance?) consider skipping on the HD-3000 and  
video card to save money. Chances are in 6-12mo new HDTV tuners will  
be on the market with better quality. Worse case, you pick up a used  
HD3000 off ebay on the cheap :)


Smart move on the AMD cool'n'quiet choice. Make sure you setup your  
Linux distro of choice to take advantage of it.



I am defiantly open to some suggestions on changes?

I still need to pick out the Case, Power Supply and a few fans. I  am 
thinking about going with a Fan-less Power Supply for noise  
reduction and I could use some suggestions on which fans to look into.


Do any of you suggest a case. I have found several built for noise  
reduction and looks since this is going in the living room.



In addition to pcalchemy.com, check out http:// 
www.silentpcreview.com. Based on reviews from that site and elsewhere  
I'm going with the Seasonic S12-330 which I expect to handle my basic  
setup. You may want to consider a larger PSU than this depending on  
how many hard drives you plan to put in the case.


I also was thinking about a fanless PSU but decided against it after  
reading information on SPCR. The key thing that sticks in my head is  
that with a silent PSU you need quality case ventilation to move the  
heat out that the PSU fans would normally be moving out for you.  
Having looked at several HTPC cases from Ahanix, Silverstone, and  
Uneed none of the full sized ATX cases score well on airflow when  
compared midtower cases.


In the end I've decided that having fans isn't such a bad thing as  
long as they are controlled. The case I'm designing will end up  
having voltage controlled 5 fans (1 CPU, 1 GPU, 2 Case, 1 PSU)  
however I still expect it to be nearly silent. The plan here is to  
use the special fan connections on the Seasonic along with simple  
inline voltage controls and temperature monitoring to only spin the  
fans as fast as needed. Apple did it on the dual G5 2GHz systems, how  
hard can it be? ;)


Hope it helps.

--
Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AIM: BlueCame1



Is the most expensive desktop chip AMD currently sell really going to be 
put to good use, especially given the maybes around your need for HDTV, 
and the hardware MPEG2 encoders? I personally use a 1.7GHz Pentium-M 
(P-M is faster, clock for clock, than AMD64, though no dual core 
variants exist yet), which under full load sends out about 30W of power 
(90 or more for a dual-core AMD), or idle (with the help of Enhanced 
Speedstep), a fraction of that. The end result is with two DVB-T video 
streams recording, the chip is sitting comfortably at 600Mhz - with the 
CPU fan switching itself off out of boredom.


--Jo Shields
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Re: [mythtv-users] A success story and a few questions.

[tufkal]

Well if you setup the recording profile to use RTJpeg and not mpeg4, 
most of the processing is done on the backend side and the frontend gets 
a little break.  If you switch to MPEG4 the backend uses less CPU but 
the frontend uses more.  It's kind of a balancing act.  The frontend 
uses on average 40% CPU with RTJpeg quality 170 (the default) for live 
TV.  A Celeron 300 should be able to handle it without maxing out the 
CPU usage, and even if it did you could bump the rtjpeg quality down a bit.


Nathan Widmyer wrote:

How successful is that P3 500?  Do you have processing power to spare 
or is the processing power almost too little?  I have an older P3 
Celeron 300Mhz that is collecting dust and I have a bt878 card as well 
from another box not doing anything.  I want to put a serious box 
together soon but maybe I can tinker with this old PC and this TV card 
and I'm wondering how plausible it would be.  Thanks in advance, Nate.


On 8/2/05, *tufkal* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

  have played around with MythTV since 0.15 with mxied success trying
new things and learning how it all worked. I recently decided a
myth box
in my living room would be a good addition, and I had a Pentium III
500mhz / 192MB RAM / 10GB HD sitting around to abuse. I am a user of
Mandriva (Mandrake) linux, so I installed the backend on my server and
added a BT878 card. Using Mandriva 2005 LE and thac's latest RPMs for
Myth, it was up and running in 2 minutes flat. Setup the frontend
with
Mandriva 2005 as well, and everything just worked.

Now by everything I mean live tv, recordings, transcodes, video and
audio quality, and the basics. I will be fumbling throguh getting
MythGame, MythMusic, MythVideo, and a few other plugins setup in the
next week, but that is not what I am worried about.

There are a few things I want to accomplish that I am not sure the
best
way to go about. First of all I have a large wireless network with my
neighbors and friends, that I would like to offer streaming TV to.
Now I
dont have the hardware to run 5 tuner cards and give everyone frontend
software. And since there isnt any Windows frontend I know of besides
tapping in with DSmyth, I am looking for other options. I noticed
that
someone with the DSMyth filters can open the ringbuf1.nuv file and see
the buffer, but once I change the channel or the file reaches its size
limit and starts overwriting itself, dsmyth cant handle it. What
is the
best way to get a stream I can share on my network?

The other thing I am looking to do is add a second tuner card so I can
record a show while wathcing another live. I've adjusted the various
profile settings so that about 40% cpu usage is used per input,
but the
problem I have run into is when I add the second card, lspci shows it,
and the necessary /proc entries show the kernel sees the card, but i
only have 1 /dev/video device present. Do i have to mknod it myself?

Thanks in advance for the help.
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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list.Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

[Daniel Hall]

Hi Marty,

To put it in perspective the cost is roughly equivalent to buying a paper
guide each week (i.e. TV Week or the local Sunday newspaper) but also allows
the guide interactivity needed for PVR's.

Also if there are any problems with the service you have someone to complain
to so that things gets fixed.

We currently do not have any plans on supporting the Pay TV channels.

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Ravell
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 3:33 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this
list.Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

Hi Daniel,

I don't mean to sound cheap but $3 per week seems a bit expensive. After all
the reason we do projects like MythTV is partly to build cheap alternatives
to commercial PVRs.

If it were $3 per month then I think I'd jump on it in an instant.


PS. I'll second the comment about Foxtel channel availability. Any plans for
this content?


Regards
Marty


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 2:42 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list.
Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

Also if you are looking for a reliable and legal XMLTV EPG service in
Australia then you can also have a look at IceTV. This is a subscription
based service. Details can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
fax: 1300 654 208
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 2:35 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone
elsehadproblems today?


Hey 

 My mythfilldatabase seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
anyone 
getting the same error 

no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/02082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/03082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/0WorldClient.dll?View=Main4082005/guide.
prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/05082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/06082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/07082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/08082005/guide.prn

I think the MSN may have changed something unless I am the only one 
getting the errors 

Latz Mary 


-Original Message-
From: Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:38:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone 
elsehadproblems today?

> > "Brad" == Brad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Brad> Is the ninmsn grabber better than the d1.com.au ?  If so do
> Brad> you know where I could download it from. Also a clue on how
> Brad> to install if time permits.
> 
> It seems to be better.
> 
> I frequently get reports of conflicting programs though (Melbourne),
> even when I run it two times in a row manually. Presumably, the first
> time I run it should remove any conflicting programs, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts the second time I run it...
> 
> So I suspect it is not perfect.
> 
> However, it seems to get everything correct that I care about.
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 






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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

[Marty Ravell]

Hi Daniel,

I don't mean to sound cheap but $3 per week seems a bit expensive. After all
the reason we do projects like MythTV is partly to build cheap alternatives
to commercial PVRs.

If it were $3 per month then I think I'd jump on it in an instant.


PS. I'll second the comment about Foxtel channel availability. Any plans for
this content?


Regards
Marty


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 2:42 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list.
Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

Also if you are looking for a reliable and legal XMLTV EPG service in
Australia then you can also have a look at IceTV. This is a subscription
based service. Details can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
fax: 1300 654 208
www.icetv.com.au
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 2:35 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone
elsehadproblems today?


Hey 

 My mythfilldatabase seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
anyone 
getting the same error 

no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/02082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/03082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/0WorldClient.dll?View=Main4082005/guide.
prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/05082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/06082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/07082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/08082005/guide.prn

I think the MSN may have changed something unless I am the only one 
getting the errors 

Latz Mary 


-Original Message-
From: Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:38:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone 
elsehadproblems today?

> > "Brad" == Brad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Brad> Is the ninmsn grabber better than the d1.com.au ?  If so do
> Brad> you know where I could download it from. Also a clue on how
> Brad> to install if time permits.
> 
> It seems to be better.
> 
> I frequently get reports of conflicting programs though (Melbourne),
> even when I run it two times in a row manually. Presumably, the first
> time I run it should remove any conflicting programs, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts the second time I run it...
> 
> So I suspect it is not perfect.
> 
> However, it seems to get everything correct that I care about.
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 





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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

[Daniel Hall]

We currently do not have any plans to add the Pay TV channels to iceguide.

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
fax: 1300 654 208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Tan
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 3:23 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list.
Anyoneelsehadproblems today?

Any plans to add Foxtel/Optus channels to the IceTV EPG?

On 02/08/2005, at 2:42 PM, Daniel Hall wrote:

> Also if you are looking for a reliable and legal XMLTV EPG service in
> Australia then you can also have a look at IceTV. This is a
> subscription
> based service. Details can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/
>
> Cheers,
>


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[mythtv-users] A success story and a few questions.

[tufkal]

 have played around with MythTV since 0.15 with mxied success trying 
new things and learning how it all worked. I recently decided a myth box 
in my living room would be a good addition, and I had a Pentium III 
500mhz / 192MB RAM / 10GB HD sitting around to abuse. I am a user of 
Mandriva (Mandrake) linux, so I installed the backend on my server and 
added a BT878 card. Using Mandriva 2005 LE and thac's latest RPMs for 
Myth, it was up and running in 2 minutes flat. Setup the frontend with 
Mandriva 2005 as well, and everything just worked.


Now by everything I mean live tv, recordings, transcodes, video and 
audio quality, and the basics. I will be fumbling throguh getting 
MythGame, MythMusic, MythVideo, and a few other plugins setup in the 
next week, but that is not what I am worried about.


There are a few things I want to accomplish that I am not sure the best 
way to go about. First of all I have a large wireless network with my 
neighbors and friends, that I would like to offer streaming TV to. Now I 
dont have the hardware to run 5 tuner cards and give everyone frontend 
software. And since there isnt any Windows frontend I know of besides 
tapping in with DSmyth, I am looking for other options. I noticed that 
someone with the DSMyth filters can open the ringbuf1.nuv file and see 
the buffer, but once I change the channel or the file reaches its size 
limit and starts overwriting itself, dsmyth cant handle it. What is the 
best way to get a stream I can share on my network?


The other thing I am looking to do is add a second tuner card so I can 
record a show while wathcing another live. I've adjusted the various 
profile settings so that about 40% cpu usage is used per input, but the 
problem I have run into is when I add the second card, lspci shows it, 
and the necessary /proc entries show the kernel sees the card, but i 
only have 1 /dev/video device present. Do i have to mknod it myself?


Thanks in advance for the help.
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[mythtv-users] Mythtv hard freezes my box!

[roger]

1. # mythtv-setup
2. Do you want to erase (some files)?
3. Hard freeze after a minute of two.

I'm using a Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop with an Nvidia Geforce card.

I've also tried the optional acpi=no noapic options on boot but have not 
verified the commands were accepted on boot (ie. dmesg)

(My gut tells me this has to be a known issue!) 

--
Roger
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Mon Aug 1 22:23:31 PDT 2005

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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone elsehadproblems today?

[Nick Tan]

Any plans to add Foxtel/Optus channels to the IceTV EPG?

On 02/08/2005, at 2:42 PM, Daniel Hall wrote:


Also if you are looking for a reliable and legal XMLTV EPG service in
Australia then you can also have a look at IceTV. This is a
subscription
based service. Details can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/

Cheers,



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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone elsehadproblems today?

[Daniel Hall]

Also if you are looking for a reliable and legal XMLTV EPG service in
Australia then you can also have a look at IceTV. This is a subscription
based service. Details can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
fax: 1300 654 208
www.icetv.com.au
 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 2:35 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone
elsehadproblems today?


Hey 

 My mythfilldatabase seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
anyone 
getting the same error 

no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/02082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/03082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/0WorldClient.dll?View=Main4082005/guide.
prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/05082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/06082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/07082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/08082005/guide.prn

I think the MSN may have changed something unless I am the only one 
getting the errors 

Latz Mary 


-Original Message-
From: Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:38:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone 
elsehadproblems today?

> > "Brad" == Brad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Brad> Is the ninmsn grabber better than the d1.com.au ?  If so do
> Brad> you know where I could download it from. Also a clue on how
> Brad> to install if time permits.
> 
> It seems to be better.
> 
> I frequently get reports of conflicting programs though (Melbourne),
> even when I run it two times in a row manually. Presumably, the first
> time I run it should remove any conflicting programs, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts the second time I run it...
> 
> So I suspect it is not perfect.
> 
> However, it seems to get everything correct that I care about.
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 



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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone elsehadproblems today?

[Phill Edwards]

> Are you guys using the ninemsn grabber?
> This is why I have stuck to the older grab-au that uses d1.com.au
> Thanks d1, it's not perfect ( Myth hates the spelling mistakes ;) , but
> at least your always there.
> I cannot understand why someone would not want to freely distribute
> information about their services
> Are they saying they make more money from charging for the stupid
> listings than for the actual shows or what?

The reason they restrict the EPG data is because they know that people
want it to use in their PVRs. And why? Because people skip ads with
their PVRs.

The other option apart from NineMSN is the OzTivo scripts. As I've
mentioned before on this forum these have no legal issues associated
because volunteers manually enter the data. I can help you guys get up
tp speed with it if you like. The change-over is not actually very
hard. Some of the data is not as complete - eg program genres - some
is mor ecomplete - eg actors etc.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone else hadproblems today?

[Mary Wright]

Hey 

 My mythfilldatabase seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
anyone 
getting the same error 

no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/02082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/03082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/0WorldClient.dll?View=Main4082005/guide.
prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/05082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/06082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/07082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/08082005/guide.prn

I think the MSN may have changed something unless I am the only one 
getting the errors 

Latz Mary 


-Original Message-
From: Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:38:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone 
elsehadproblems today?

> > "Brad" == Brad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Brad> Is the ninmsn grabber better than the d1.com.au ?  If so do
> Brad> you know where I could download it from. Also a clue on how
> Brad> to install if time permits.
> 
> It seems to be better.
> 
> I frequently get reports of conflicting programs though (Melbourne),
> even when I run it two times in a row manually. Presumably, the first
> time I run it should remove any conflicting programs, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts the second time I run it...
> 
> So I suspect it is not perfect.
> 
> However, it seems to get everything correct that I care about.
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 


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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone elsehadproblems today?

[Ian Ward]

Berry, David wrote:


Same here (Canberra)

How do we fix it? - change the script?

To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone
elsehadproblems today?

Mary Wright wrote:

 

Hey 


My mythfill database seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
   

anyone 
 

getting the same error 



   

I'm getting the same thing.. Sighz... Why can't the networks just 
provide the EPG free without these stupid restrictions, I'm sure the 
HDTV uptake will improve with a proper freely available EPG that cost 
nothing to the consumer.


 


Are you guys using the ninemsn grabber?
This is why I have stuck to the older grab-au that uses d1.com.au
Thanks d1, it's not perfect ( Myth hates the spelling mistakes ;) , but 
at least your always there.
I cannot understand why someone would not want to freely distribute 
information about their services
Are they saying they make more money from charging for the stupid 
listings than for the actual shows or what?

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RE: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone elsehadproblems today?

[Berry, David]

Same here (Canberra)

How do we fix it? - change the script?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tj
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone
elsehadproblems today?

Mary Wright wrote:

>Hey 
>
> My mythfill database seems to be spewing about pid errors today is
anyone 
>getting the same error 
>  
>
I'm getting the same thing.. Sighz... Why can't the networks just 
provide the EPG free without these stupid restrictions, I'm sure the 
HDTV uptake will improve with a proper freely available EPG that cost 
nothing to the consumer.



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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone else hadproblems today?

[Tj]

Mary Wright wrote:

Hey 

My mythfill database seems to be spewing about pid errors today is anyone 
getting the same error 
 

I'm getting the same thing.. Sighz... Why can't the networks just 
provide the EPG free without these stupid restrictions, I'm sure the 
HDTV uptake will improve with a proper freely available EPG that cost 
nothing to the consumer.




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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone else hadproblems today?

[Mary Wright]

Hey 

 My mythfill database seems to be spewing about pid errors today is anyone 
getting the same error 

no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/02082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/03082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/0WorldClient.dll?View=Main4082005/guide.
prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/05082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/06082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/07082005/guide.prn
no pids in /var/local/tv_grab_au/08082005/guide.prn

I think the MSN may have changed something unless I am the only one 
getting the errors 

Latz Mary 


-Original Message-
From: Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:38:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_au script from this list. Anyone 
elsehadproblems today?

> > "Brad" == Brad  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Brad> Is the ninmsn grabber better than the d1.com.au ?  If so do
> Brad> you know where I could download it from. Also a clue on how
> Brad> to install if time permits.
> 
> It seems to be better.
> 
> I frequently get reports of conflicting programs though (Melbourne),
> even when I run it two times in a row manually. Presumably, the first
> time I run it should remove any conflicting programs, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts the second time I run it...
> 
> So I suspect it is not perfect.
> 
> However, it seems to get everything correct that I care about.
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 


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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Marc Tousignant wrote:

Setup of nvidia + xvmc on Gentoo is well documented and went off
without a hitch using nvidia-kernel 1.0.7667. Over all I was
impressed with the results. Using xvmc I was able to easily playback
1080i clips with about 35% cpu use. Considering the low end PCI bus
on the Pundit system board and the low end GPU on the FX 5200.





Can you point me to this "well documented" location? I'm having  
trouble

hehe.



I used these resources:

1) The Gentoo Desktop Guide has a nVidia Howto: http://www.gentoo.org/ 
doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop
2) The Gentoo Wiki has some good info on nVidia in general. Just  
search for nvidia and you'll get a bunch of interesting hits. http:// 
gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page
3) The Gentoo forums are a fantastic resource. http:// 
forums.gentoo.org. Search on 'nvidia' or on 'xvmc' and you'll find  
lots of Q&A threads.


On my box (Asus Pundit SIS P4 Northwood + PCI eVga FX5200) I was able  
to emerge the most current masked nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx, and  
then run opengl-update. A few quick changes to my existing xorg.conf  
and I had the nvidia driver with dri up and running in an hour. After  
that I followed the desktop guide instructions to rebuild a few  
packages like xine-lib and mplayer to include xvmc support and was  
able to use Xine 1.1.0 / 0.99.4 to view HDTV content with xvmc.


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[mythtv-users] Re: Backend hang after ivtv error

[John Freer]

I was working with my backend box tonight, and wanted to try out
Axel's suggestion to me from earlier in this post (thanks for the
suggestion!):

> ivtv ships its own modules for tuning. The long term plan is to use

> the v4l ones, but if they don't work use the ones from ivtv. Use
> the alias trcik in modprobe to chose the ivtv versions of tuner.ko
> etc. 

Just in case someone else tries this with what's at-testing as of
today, it doesn't work.

With the July 05 bttv / v4l packages and the 0.3w ivtv packages
(latest up at atrpms), tuning is broken either on the bttv card or
ivtv card depending which tuner module you use.

If you use the tuner-ivtv module, the PVR-250 tuner (type 50 for me)
works but my bttv card doesn't tune (type=2).  If you use the v4l
tuner module, then the bttv tuner works, but the ivtv doesn't.

I've tried the standard options of passing the tuner type parameter
to the tuner module from the bttv and ivtv modules.  No real change.

Guess we need to wait for an updated ivtv version for them to both
coexist nicely.

Happy hunting.
JF



 
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 08:13:00PM -0700, John Freer wrote: 
> I've been having a fairly similar problem. Hauppauge PVR-250 and a 
> Win-TV dbx, and also an HD-2000. 
> 
> Whenever the bttv card is recording, there's a 1 in 4 chance that
the 
> computer will hard lock and require me pushing the reset button. 
> 
> For me this means a hang about every two weeks. 
> 
> I see something in the logs befor the hang about IRQ problems and 
> some OCERR lines. Nothing smoking. 
> 
> This problem has been with me since FC2 and through a couple of 
> kernels. I was hoping the recent atrpms update to bttv would fix
the 
> problem, but I can't prove that out since the July version of bttv 
> and v4l breaks PVR-250 tuning for me. 

> Good luck. 
> JF 
> 
> 
> 
> > For users & devs: 
> > I'm using two cards in my system: A hauppauge PVR-500 and a 
> > hauppauge 
> > bt878-based card. 
> > Has anyone had any problems with: 
> > 
> > 1) ivtv giving a DMA error in the log, and then 
> > 2) mythbackend fails to record using that tuner until restarted, 
> > and 
> > 3) frontends/web stop responding and repeatedly logs "waiting for

> > thread" forever. 
> > Everything works 90% of the time. This error just comes up 
> > occasionally - more often when I'm recording 2-3 shows at once. 
> > 
> > Anyone have any suggestions to improve stability? What encoder 
> > firmware are people having luck with out there? I'm using 
> > 0x02040011 
> > and ivtv-0.3.7a. 
> > 
> > For the devs: 
> > I've tracked it down to a pthread_join() statement in tv_rec.cpp.

> > It 
> > appears that when the scheduler things the recording has
finished, 
> > the 
> > backend gets stuck waiting forever for the "encoder" thread to 
> > complete, which is started with pthread_create() in the 
> > "SpawnEncoder" 
> > function (or something like thatnear the top of the same
file). 
> > 
> > So I know it's an ivtv error and trust me, I'm working on trying
to 
> > fix that as fast as I can. But for now, would it be possible for 
> > mythbackend to recover from it? Perhaps replace the
pthread_join() 
> > with a non-blocking call and timeout after waiting a few seconds?

> > Or 
> > perhaps the encoder thread can exit prematurely if it doesn't get
a 
> > buffer from the ivtv module for awhile? 
> > 
> > Also, I just checked out the source from the subversion "fixes" 
> > branch 
> > last night and installed it today. Should I expect any better 
> > behavior from that? Or should I just roll with the 0.18.1
release? 
> > 
> > I'm not using DVB.just a PVR-500 and bt878 card. 
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RE: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

[Marc Tousignant]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac Richards
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:39 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?
> 
> On Monday 01 August 2005 10:58 am, Dave Packham wrote:
> > Any word on if the new Divx 6 format will be supported?  Or did I miss
> > that thread?
> >
> > http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php
> >
> > it's the new divx media format.
> 
> It's just avi, and retains all of avi's crappiness that makes it
> completely
> unsuitable for a pvr.
> 
> Isaac

It is also not free and a linux version does not currently exist. Atleast
not that I could see.
Besides XviD is still superior IMO.

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RE: [mythtv-users] Black and White

[Marty Ravell]

I'm starting to think the same thing.

To be honest I am not at all impressed with the breakout cable on the back
of the 350. Given that it is fairly heavy it is showing a tendency to pull
out. I might need to fashion some sort of bracket or clamp to hold it in
place.

Having pulled the whole rig down and re-assembled it on my test bench it now
seems to be OK. Go figure.


Regards
Marty 


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Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:08 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Black and White

> From: Martin Ravell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv 
> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:58 +1000
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Black and White
>
> I'm getting black and white out of the SVideo output on my PVR-350. 
> The composite out is in color but I don't want to use this.

This has always been a cabling problem on my 250. I shutdown, reseat, 
and reboot, and it works fine until I rearrange things again. The 
SVideo connectors on my card leave a lot to be desired. Since the luma 
and chroma are separate signals in the plug, could be that your chroma 
connection is bad.

Regards,
   JJ

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RE: [mythtv-users] Segmentation fault?

[Marc Tousignant]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tate Austin
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:18 AM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] Segmentation fault?

Hey, I am a gentoo user who just used portage to install mythtv.  I started
up mysql and configured it as appropriate, but when I attempt to run
'myth-setup' it immediately segmentation faults.  Is this a known issue with
certain configurations or what?
-

Please provide more information.

I'm a gentoo user too and I have experienced no problems other than user
error. Aka wrong folder permissions or messing up a config file.

Never had a problem running the setup thou.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Todd Ignasiak]

No,  it uses the VIA K8M800.   The CLE266 is the oldest chipset that
had this.  I believe it was more limited than the later chipsets
(maybe this is the one that didn't support HD..  the others do.)

There are several VIA chipsets that support the hardware MPEG2
decoding.  From the unichrome sourceforge project site says:  "It
provides support for VIA CLE266 and KM400/KN400. K8M800 and
PM800/CN400 support is still limited."  I'm not sure if that
statement is up to date.  I have seen messages from people using the
CN400.



On 8/1/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:
> 
> > The Unichrome integrated graphics chipsets are available on more than
> > just Mini-ITX boards.  VIA makes P4, Athlon, and even Athlon64 boards
> > with the Unichrome video.
> 
> Is this with the CLE266 chip? I thought that was the only one that
> supported XvMC which is why I ask. Again, I could be wrong (
> under construction
> 
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> 
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] Initial Machine Parts

[Paul Archer]

9:02pm, Quentin Whitmyer wrote:


Hello All,

Ok, I am starting to put together a initial list of items I am going to buy 
for my MythTV box. At moment I plan on going with the all in one solution, 
however in the future I might get a second little box for the front end.


So far I have:
2 Hauppage PVR 350


If you have a decently fast processor (which you've picked), then I would 
suggest either 2 PVR150s or a PVR500. If you get 2 PVR350s, then you'll be 
wasting the video out function on one. Get an nVidia card with TV out and 
you'll be set there.


Also, if you get PVR150 MCE edition, you can save a couple of bucks by not 
buying the remotes. Then you can get the Streamzap remote ($30 or so from 
thinkgeek.com). I recommend the Streamzap remotes over using Hauppauge's 
remote so that if you build a frontend-only machine, you can have matching 
remotes on all machines.


Paul A.



Maybe 1 pcHDTV HD-3000 for Future
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4400 or 4800
A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard, I like the AI-Cool Pipe option and it supports 
the AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Tech. for fans


I am defiantly open to some suggestions on changes?

I still need to pick out the Case, Power Supply and a few fans. I am thinking 
about going with a Fan-less Power Supply for noise reduction and I could use 
some suggestions on which fans to look into.


Do any of you suggest a case. I have found several built for noise reduction 
and looks since this is going in the living room.


Anyway let me know what you think.

Thanks Quentin


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it said "Requires Windows 95 or better".  So I installed Linux.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:


The Unichrome integrated graphics chipsets are available on more than
just Mini-ITX boards.  VIA makes P4, Athlon, and even Athlon64 boards
with the Unichrome video.


Is this with the CLE266 chip? I thought that was the only one that  
supported XvMC which is why I ask. Again, I could be wrong (  
under construction


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Re: [mythtv-users] Initial Machine Parts

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Quentin Whitmyer wrote:
Ok, I am starting to put together a initial list of items I am  
going to buy for my MythTV box. At moment I plan on going with the  
all in one solution, however in the future I might get a second  
little box for the front end.


So far I have:
2 Hauppage PVR 350
Maybe 1 pcHDTV HD-3000 for Future
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4400 or 4800
A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard, I like the AI-Cool Pipe option and it  
supports the AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Tech. for fans


I think the  only reason you would need this much CPU is to handle  
software decoding of HDTV streams. Since you have the HD3000 board  
chances are in the future you'll want a card that can do HDTV output.  
For that I would look at the some of the Gigabyte or eVGA cards found  
here: http://www.pcalchemy.com/index.php If you don't have any HDTV  
sources now (OTA by chance?) consider skipping on the HD-3000 and  
video card to save money. Chances are in 6-12mo new HDTV tuners will  
be on the market with better quality. Worse case, you pick up a used  
HD3000 off ebay on the cheap :)


Smart move on the AMD cool'n'quiet choice. Make sure you setup your  
Linux distro of choice to take advantage of it.



I am defiantly open to some suggestions on changes?

I still need to pick out the Case, Power Supply and a few fans. I  
am thinking about going with a Fan-less Power Supply for noise  
reduction and I could use some suggestions on which fans to look into.


Do any of you suggest a case. I have found several built for noise  
reduction and looks since this is going in the living room.


In addition to pcalchemy.com, check out http:// 
www.silentpcreview.com. Based on reviews from that site and elsewhere  
I'm going with the Seasonic S12-330 which I expect to handle my basic  
setup. You may want to consider a larger PSU than this depending on  
how many hard drives you plan to put in the case.


I also was thinking about a fanless PSU but decided against it after  
reading information on SPCR. The key thing that sticks in my head is  
that with a silent PSU you need quality case ventilation to move the  
heat out that the PSU fans would normally be moving out for you.  
Having looked at several HTPC cases from Ahanix, Silverstone, and  
Uneed none of the full sized ATX cases score well on airflow when  
compared midtower cases.


In the end I've decided that having fans isn't such a bad thing as  
long as they are controlled. The case I'm designing will end up  
having voltage controlled 5 fans (1 CPU, 1 GPU, 2 Case, 1 PSU)  
however I still expect it to be nearly silent. The plan here is to  
use the special fan connections on the Seasonic along with simple  
inline voltage controls and temperature monitoring to only spin the  
fans as fast as needed. Apple did it on the dual G5 2GHz systems, how  
hard can it be? ;)


Hope it helps.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hang ups after Changing from RecordingOnly to None

[Petersen Curt]

I had a similar problem.  Check to see if IVTV is giving you errors
like "DMA_IRQ_ERROR" or something like that.  Also, does it only occur
while you're recording AND using the network? (I noticed that your IRQ
is shared between your capture/network cards).

Try moving your capture card to another PCI slot to make sure it gets
its own IRQ (lspci -v).

Good luck.
-Pete

On 8/1/05, John Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having a problem with my MythTV setup.
> The backend is hanging rather frequently (1 or more times per day).
> In the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, one of the times it hangs is
> after "Changing from RecordingOnly to None". At that point, the frontend
> says No recordings scheduled, the backend disappeared, etc. Restarting
> the backend ( /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart ) will get everything
> going again. I also have to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace the X server to get the
> frontend talking to the backend again.
> 
> Another time it seems to happen is when there is a
> "Reschedule requested for id 0" (or -1).
> 
> The MySQL database runs on a Dell 1650.
> 
> Hopefully some of this info will be relevant, if not, I can email
> anything needed.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Regards,
>JJ
> 
> HP Pavilion 6535
> i810 motherboard, Celeron 600
> 256Mb RAM
> nVidia GeForce MX 4000
> Hauppauge 250, new remote
> 
> Part of cat /proc/pci
>Bus  0, device  31, function  5:
>  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AB AC'97 Audio (rev
> 2).
>IRQ 9.
>I/O at 0x1200 [0x12ff].
>I/O at 0x1300 [0x133f].
>Bus  1, device  11, function  0:
>  Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 32).
>IRQ 9.
>Master Capable.  Latency=64.
>I/O at 0x3000 [0x30ff].
>Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe010 [0xe01000ff].
>Bus  1, device  13, function  0:
>  Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16
> (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 1).
>IRQ 9.
>Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=128.Max Lat=8.
>Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe800 [0xebff].
>Bus  1, device  14, function  0:
>  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX
> 4000 AGP 8x] (rev 193).
>IRQ 10.
>Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
>Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe100 [0xe1ff].
>Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf000 [0xf7ff].
> 
> Part of apt-cache show mythtv
> Package: mythtv
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: graphics
> Installed-Size: 64
> Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Bugs: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Architecture: all
> Version: 0.18.1-3_km_i686
> Depends: mythtv-database (= 0.18.1-3_km_i686), mythtv-frontend (=
> 0.18.1-3_km_i686), mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-3_km_i686)
> 
> ivtvctl -V
> ioctl: IVTV_IOC_G_DRIVER_INFO
>   driver info:
> version = 0x0200 (0.2.0)
> comment = rc3j
> 
> part of v4l-info
> ### v4l2 device info [/dev/video0] ###
> general info
>  VIDIOC_QUERYCAP
>  driver  : "ivtv"
>  card: "Vanilla iTVC15 card"
>  bus_info: "0"
>  version : 0.2.0
>  capabilities: 0x1030011
> [VIDEO_CAPTURE,VBI_CAPTURE,TUNER,AUDIO,READWRITE]
> 
> ls /usr/src/mythtv/source/
> knoppmyth_plugins_0.18.1_i586.diff  mythplugins-0.18.1.tar.bz2
> knoppmyth_plugins_0.18.1_i686.diff  myththemes-0.18.tar.bz2
> knoppmyth_tv_0.18.1_i586.diff   mythtv-0.18.1/
> knoppmyth_tv_0.18.1_i686.diff   mythtv-0.18.1.tar.bz2
> 
> parts of /var/log/XFree86.0.log
> XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10.1unichrome30.1
> 20050205195924 glaweh@)
> Release Date: 15 August 2003
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.10-xenU i686 [ELF]
> Build Date: 05 February 2005
> ...
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a
> (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>  compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.13.0
>  Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
>  ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2
> (II) Loading extension RECORD
> (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
> (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
>  compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.7174
>  Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Todd Ignasiak]

The Unichrome integrated graphics chipsets are available on more than
just Mini-ITX boards.  VIA makes P4, Athlon, and even Athlon64 boards
with the Unichrome video.

This seems like an interesting option to me.It allows for the most
offloading of MPEG2 processing, while still using a fast CPU for
everything else in the system.


S3/VIA also has standalone video cards (Deltachrome and Gammachrome)
but I don't know if they support full hardware decoding.


-- Also, I am confused on the controversy about open source from VIA. 
 Are the Unichrome drivers completely open source?  Or, do they rely
on binary code from VIA for full support? A fully open source
driver would be a big plus over the Nvidia drivers.

On 8/1/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/31/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh yeah, one more thing :) I thought I read that some or all of the
> > unichrome chips had a limitation on video out where they could not
> > output 1280x720 (720p) video or above. Obviously this is a problem if
> > you're trying to hook your unichrome based board to a HDTV that wants
> > to accept either 720p or 1080i input sources.
> 
> On a mailing list that gets archived and searched quite often it's
> best NOT to post things you thing you read as it confuses things.
> Next thing you know you've got people quoting your post in irc saying
> "I read that some guy said he thought that they didn't do HDTV".  ;)
> 
> For the record, the Unichrome Pro chipset DOES offer hardware
> acceleration of HDTV streams as well as MPEG4 acceleration.  (Though
> the open source drivers don't support MPEG4 acceleration).
> 
> That being said, unless you REALLY want/need the mini-ITX form factor,
> you're much better off with a Celeron and a decent nVidia AGP based
> graphics card.  The mini-ITX based systems make great little silent
> frontends but they're seriously lacking in the horsepower needed for a
> good general Myth box.
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[mythtv-users] Initial Machine Parts

[Quentin Whitmyer]

Hello All,Ok, I am starting to put together a initial list of items I am going to buy for my MythTV box. At moment I plan on going with the all in one solution, however in the future I might get a second little box for the front end.So far I have:2 Hauppage PVR 350Maybe 1 pcHDTV HD-3000 for FutureCPU: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4400 or 4800A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard, I like the AI-Cool Pipe option and it supports the AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Tech. for fansI am defiantly open to some suggestions on changes?I still need to pick out the Case, Power Supply and a few fans. I am thinking about going with a Fan-less Power Supply for noise reduction and I could use some suggestions on which fans to look into. Do any of you suggest a case. I have found several built for noise reduction and looks since this is going in the living room. Anyway let me know what you think.Thanks Quentin___
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythMusic playing mp3-CD

[ian]

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Robin Gilks wrote:


Greetings

I've found loads of information about creating mp3s from CDs and burning
the result to CD, but is it possible to play mp3-cds under MythMusic? My
DVD cheap player manages to do it so I assume the autodetect of the media
can't be that hard.


Hmm... not a bad idea.  Also an option to import the mp3s into mythmusic 
by copying them in.  Which would also be nice for removable memory sticks 
and the like.


Assuming its possible, are there any config items to set 

up? >

I suppose the same question applies to Kodak PhotoCDs as well - I don't
suppose MythGallery registers for image CDs?

Cheers


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[mythtv-users] Pundit mythtv

[Scot L. Harris]

I have been using a mythtv system for about 6 months now.  Thanks to all
the developers and others that put such a great package together.

I am now interested in building another mythtv box primarily to be used
as a frontend.  The backend system will be existing box which has 1 TB
for the /video file system.  

The existing system uses a PVR-350 for output and has an additional
PVR-250 so it can record two shows at once.

After doing much searching and reading on the web I am almost convinced
that a Pundit system would be a good choice for a small relatively quite
frontend mythtv system.  

One question I have is I would like to utilize a PVR-350 in the pundit
system for output to the TV and as another tuner for recording.  I have
been very pleased with the PVR-350 in the existing system.  I read that
this will be a tight fit but appears that it should be workable.  Is
there any other gotchas with setting a pundit up (or pundit-r) this
way?  Since I plan on using the PVR-350 for output the onboard video
won't be used much beyond the initial install.

And if the pundit-r is not a good choice is there another microATX board
that would be recommended?

 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Black and White

[John Johnson]

From: Martin Ravell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:58 +1000
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [mythtv-users] Black and White

I’m getting black and white out of the SVideo output on my PVR-350. 
The composite out is in color but I don’t want to use this.


This has always been a cabling problem on my 250. I shutdown, reseat, 
and reboot, and it works fine until I rearrange things again. The 
SVideo connectors on my card leave a lot to be desired. Since the luma 
and chroma are separate signals in the plug, could be that your chroma 
connection is bad.


Regards,
  JJ

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[mythtv-users] Hang ups after Changing from RecordingOnly to None

[John Johnson]

I'm having a problem with my MythTV setup.
The backend is hanging rather frequently (1 or more times per day).
In the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, one of the times it hangs is
after "Changing from RecordingOnly to None". At that point, the frontend
says No recordings scheduled, the backend disappeared, etc. Restarting
the backend ( /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart ) will get everything
going again. I also have to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace the X server to get the
frontend talking to the backend again.

Another time it seems to happen is when there is a
"Reschedule requested for id 0" (or -1).

The MySQL database runs on a Dell 1650.

Hopefully some of this info will be relevant, if not, I can email 
anything needed.


Thanks in advance!

Regards,
  JJ

HP Pavilion 6535
i810 motherboard, Celeron 600
256Mb RAM
nVidia GeForce MX 4000
Hauppauge 250, new remote

Part of cat /proc/pci
  Bus  0, device  31, function  5:
Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AB AC'97 Audio (rev 
2).

  IRQ 9.
  I/O at 0x1200 [0x12ff].
  I/O at 0x1300 [0x133f].
  Bus  1, device  11, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 32).
  IRQ 9.
  Master Capable.  Latency=64.
  I/O at 0x3000 [0x30ff].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe010 [0xe01000ff].
  Bus  1, device  13, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 
(CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 1).

  IRQ 9.
  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=128.Max Lat=8.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe800 [0xebff].
  Bus  1, device  14, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 
4000 AGP 8x] (rev 193).

  IRQ 10.
  Master Capable.  Latency=248.  Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe100 [0xe1ff].
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf000 [0xf7ff].

Part of apt-cache show mythtv
Package: mythtv
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 64
Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bugs: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: all
Version: 0.18.1-3_km_i686
Depends: mythtv-database (= 0.18.1-3_km_i686), mythtv-frontend (= 
0.18.1-3_km_i686), mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-3_km_i686)


ivtvctl -V
ioctl: IVTV_IOC_G_DRIVER_INFO
 driver info:
   version = 0x0200 (0.2.0)
   comment = rc3j

part of v4l-info
### v4l2 device info [/dev/video0] ###
general info
VIDIOC_QUERYCAP
driver  : "ivtv"
card: "Vanilla iTVC15 card"
bus_info: "0"
version : 0.2.0
capabilities: 0x1030011 
[VIDEO_CAPTURE,VBI_CAPTURE,TUNER,AUDIO,READWRITE]


ls /usr/src/mythtv/source/
knoppmyth_plugins_0.18.1_i586.diff  mythplugins-0.18.1.tar.bz2
knoppmyth_plugins_0.18.1_i686.diff  myththemes-0.18.tar.bz2
knoppmyth_tv_0.18.1_i586.diff   mythtv-0.18.1/
knoppmyth_tv_0.18.1_i686.diff   mythtv-0.18.1.tar.bz2

parts of /var/log/XFree86.0.log
XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10.1unichrome30.1 
20050205195924 glaweh@)

Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.10-xenU i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 05 February 2005
...
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a
(II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0.1, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.7174
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver


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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Video Modes with MythTV

[David Griffith]

Rob wrote:


Plain old SDTV analog cable is 480i (I think).

I get HDTV over-the-air, and even when it is mythtranscode'd down to
720x480 (480p, I guess), the picture is still much better. I think
what I am seeing is the difference between a clear digital signal and
a noisy analog signal, and probably not so much to do with the
increased resolution.

 

This is what I find with my dual analog / SDTV setup. Analog captured at 
720x576 is noticeably fuzzier than my SDTV signals. The signal strength 
is solid - there's no noise on analog - it's just softer. I'm supposing 
it's because of the "analog -> crappy bttv capture" step. Luminance 
bandwidth on the video signal input to your capture chip is the key 
issue here, which is dependant on what tuner you've got on your card. 
Digital transmission doesn't suffer from this kind of problem so it ends 
up sharper. It *does* suffer from a heap of other things though, 
especially if broadcasters try and squeeze another channel in  :-)


Dave

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RE: [mythtv-users] Black and White

[Marty Ravell]

Title: Re: [mythtv-users] Black and White








Hi Michael,

 

I’ll have a look at my config for
the TVOutFormat option.

 

Your email does however look like a setup
for an nvidia card. Do you know if it is the same for a PVR-350? (I’m
doing everything on the tv-out of my 350)

 

 

 

Regards

Marty

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jones
Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 6:32
AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Black
and White



 


Martin, 

Check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. 

Should look Something like this in the device section. 

Section "Device"
Identifier
 "Videocard0"
Driver
 "nvidia"
VendorName
 "Videocard vendor"
BoardName
  "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
Option
 "RenderAccel" "1"
# TV  Out Setup
Option
 "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option
 "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
Option
 "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
 
EndSection

The critical line is: 

Option    “TVOutFormat” “SVIDEO”

This might help.

 
- Michael







From: Martin
Ravell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv

Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:58
+1000
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [mythtv-users] Black and
White

I’m getting black and white out of the SVideo output on my
PVR-350. The composite out is in color but I don’t want to use this.
 
The rig is FC3, ATRPM’s from Jarod’s Guide. TV Out via the PVR-350
 
Is there a setting somewhere that I have set wrong (to composite for example)?
 
If so, where can I find it?
 
 
 
 
Regards
Marty









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[mythtv-users] MythMusic playing mp3-CD

[Robin Gilks]

Greetings

I've found loads of information about creating mp3s from CDs and burning
the result to CD, but is it possible to play mp3-cds under MythMusic? My
DVD cheap player manages to do it so I assume the autodetect of the media
can't be that hard.

Assuming its possible, are there any config items to set up?

I suppose the same question applies to Kodak PhotoCDs as well - I don't
suppose MythGallery registers for image CDs?

Cheers

-- 
Robin Gilks


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Re: [mythtv-users] A few minor issues

[Jo Shields]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:57:06AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote:
 

* In MythWeb, under the Music section, clicking on a track title returns 
me to the same page, with all images/stylesheets missing, and a funny 
URL which includes most of the path to the file in question. What is the 
correct behaviour, and how should I be achieving it?
   



The correct behavior is "whatever you want it to do", and is effected by
editing the url in the mythweb/config/conf.php file.  Whatever url you
specify will have the filename appended and passed back to the browser.
The same applies to video.

 



Is there some handy magical script or executable I can run to take 
command over the MythTV machine - i.e. allow commands like "play target 
video" or "play target song"? Obviously for integration with a little 
PHP script...


* MythVideo is using mplayer to open video files - however, these are 
always being opened BEHIND mythfrontend - I need to alt-tab to the video 
to interact with it. Is this a WM issue?
   



Yes.  You need to configure your WM so that new windows are raised and
given the keyboard focus.  This is the default for most simple WMs, but
more complicated toys like KDE may have a different raise/focus model.

 



It was doing the desribed with KDE. Without a WM, the video would be on 
top but focus remain on mythfrontend. Behaviour with Xfce4 is correct.


Oh, and some full messages from my mythtranscode failures:

bloaty:/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/config# mythtranscode -p autodetect -i 
/mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1001_2005073120_2005073121.nuv /tmp/

Stream: 0 Type: 0
Stream: 1 Type: 1
Stream: 2 Type: 1
Input #0, mpeg, from 
'/mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1001_2005073120_2005073121.nuv':

 Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, 6500 kb/s
 Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s
 Stream #0.2: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, mono, 64 kb/s
mythtranscode: mpeg2trans.cpp:668: bool 
MPEG2trans::process_video(AVPacket*, bool): Assertion `0' failed.

Aborted

bloaty:/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/config# mythtranscode -p autodetect -i 
/mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1002_2005073119_20050731194500.nuv /tmp/

Stream: 0 Type: 0
Stream: 1 Type: 1
Input #0, mpeg, from 
'/mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1002_2005073119_20050731194500.nuv':

 Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, 6500 kb/s
 Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s
mythtranscode: mpeg2trans.cpp:668: bool 
MPEG2trans::process_video(AVPacket*, bool): Assertion `0' failed.

Aborted

This one's a real pain for me, does anyone have any suggestions?

--Jo Shields
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Re: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.

[Phil Bridges]

On 8/1/05, Mark Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The irblaster allows MythTV to change the channels on the cable box?
> 
> Then the connection goes ...  Wall -> Cable Box -> MythTV -> TV?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> Micheal Havard wrote:
> 
> >To get the channels above 125 you'll have to use your cable box.  You'll
> >also need to buy or build a irblaster to change the channels.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
> >Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:29 PM
> >To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> >Subject: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.
> >
> >
> >I am gathering parts to make a MythTV machine.
> >
> >I noticed that the PVR-350 has a 125 channel cable ready tuner.  I
> >currently have digital cable and premium channels are in the 220+
> >range.  Will I be able to receive these changes or just up to 125?
> >
> >As you can tell by this question, I am not very knowledgeable with
> >regards to TV/audio/video stuff.  I am hoping to learn a bit in this
> >process.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark


Also, if your cable box has a serial or firewire port, you can
probably use those to change the channel.
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RE: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.

[Micheal Havard]

Correct.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 3:01 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.


The irblaster allows MythTV to change the channels on the cable box?

Then the connection goes ...  Wall -> Cable Box -> MythTV -> TV?

Thanks,
Mark

Micheal Havard wrote:

>To get the channels above 125 you'll have to use your cable box.  You'll
>also need to buy or build a irblaster to change the channels.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:29 PM
>To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
>Subject: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.
>
>
>I am gathering parts to make a MythTV machine.
>
>I noticed that the PVR-350 has a 125 channel cable ready tuner.  I 
>currently have digital cable and premium channels are in the 220+ 
>range.  Will I be able to receive these changes or just up to 125?
>
>As you can tell by this question, I am not very knowledgeable with 
>regards to TV/audio/video stuff.  I am hoping to learn a bit in this 
>process.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
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[mythtv-users] Grabbing EPG from DVB

[Johan Kihlström]

Hello all,

I have a number of channels that I try to capture EPG from the DVB 
stream. 9 out of 10 times I get nothing and once in a while the 
dvb-grabber actually works and I get data.


Does anyone have any ideas on how to improve the successrate?

I'm running a 0.18 compiled for DVB-C with EIT that works like a dream 
on the xbox-frontend except for this little DVB-EIT thingy.
Out of my 30 channels I subscribe to I am missing info on 7 because my 
xmltv-grabber doesn't have them.


Do I have to tune to a channel and do a mythfilldatabase while tuned to 
get info?


This is the last hurdle before proclaiming total success (have already 
bowled people over by logging in to my MythTv-backend from my cellphone, 
that works every time =) )


Thanks in advance!

Johan Kihlström
(johan_kihlstromatbredband.net)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.

[Mark Gordon]

The irblaster allows MythTV to change the channels on the cable box?

Then the connection goes ...  Wall -> Cable Box -> MythTV -> TV?

Thanks,
Mark

Micheal Havard wrote:


To get the channels above 125 you'll have to use your cable box.  You'll
also need to buy or build a irblaster to change the channels.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:29 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.


I am gathering parts to make a MythTV machine.

I noticed that the PVR-350 has a 125 channel cable ready tuner.  I 
currently have digital cable and premium channels are in the 220+ 
range.  Will I be able to receive these changes or just up to 125?


As you can tell by this question, I am not very knowledgeable with 
regards to TV/audio/video stuff.  I am hoping to learn a bit in this 
process.


Thanks,
Mark
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[mythtv-users] Mythgame Emulation Setup Tutorial

[Jochen Kühner]

Site moved to 
 
http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythGameEmulationSetup
 
Feel Free to enter more 
infos...
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RE: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.

[Micheal Havard]

To get the channels above 125 you'll have to use your cable box.  You'll
also need to buy or build a irblaster to change the channels.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gordon
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:29 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] Number of channels.


I am gathering parts to make a MythTV machine.

I noticed that the PVR-350 has a 125 channel cable ready tuner.  I 
currently have digital cable and premium channels are in the 220+ 
range.  Will I be able to receive these changes or just up to 125?

As you can tell by this question, I am not very knowledgeable with 
regards to TV/audio/video stuff.  I am hoping to learn a bit in this 
process.

Thanks,
Mark
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[mythtv-users] Number of channels.

[Mark Gordon]

I am gathering parts to make a MythTV machine.

I noticed that the PVR-350 has a 125 channel cable ready tuner.  I 
currently have digital cable and premium channels are in the 220+ 
range.  Will I be able to receive these changes or just up to 125?


As you can tell by this question, I am not very knowledgeable with 
regards to TV/audio/video stuff.  I am hoping to learn a bit in this 
process.


Thanks,
Mark
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Fwd: Re: Re: [mythtv-users] MythDora Won't Boot

[flim]

???

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Subject: Re: Re: [mythtv-users] MythDora Won't Boot
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:01:15 +0100

The mail you sent to "Discussion about mythtv"   
with the subject


Re: [mythtv-users] MythDora Won't Boot

is undeliverable because the user mailbox no longer exists and no
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Re: [mythtv-users] Black and White

[Michael Jones]

Title: Re: [mythtv-users] Black and White




Martin, 

Check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. 

Should look Something like this in the device section. 

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
Option  "RenderAccel" "1"
# TV  Out Setup
Option  "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option  "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
Option  "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"  
EndSection

The critical line is: 

Option    “TVOutFormat” “SVIDEO”

This might help.

 
- Michael

From: Martin Ravell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv 
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:23:58 +1000
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [mythtv-users] Black and White

I’m getting black and white out of the SVideo output on my PVR-350. The composite out is in color but I don’t want to use this.
 
The rig is FC3, ATRPM’s from Jarod’s Guide. TV Out via the PVR-350
 
Is there a setting somewhere that I have set wrong (to composite for example)?
 
If so, where can I find it?
 
 
 
 
Regards
Marty
 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Xine / libdvdcss can't handle dual-sided discs

[Joseph A. Caputo]

On Monday 01 August 2005 15:26, Michael Haan wrote:
> On 8/1/05, Robert Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 01/08/05, Till Harbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Saturday 30 July 2005 02:09, Michael Haan wrote:
> > > > Has anyone else seen this and have an idea for a fix?
> > > For the PC/Player/DVD-Drive a dual sided DVD isn't any different 
> > > from two 
> > > different single sided ones. When playing one side none of the 
> > > involved parts 
> > > sees the second side or has any information about it.
> > >
> > > Or do you expect xine to be able to access both sides without 
> > > turning the disc 
> > > around? That's impossible, standard DVD drives only have one 
> > > pickup (one 
> > > laser plus mechanics) and usually only read the "bottom" side of 
> > > the DVD. 
> > 
> > Unless it's a slip of the keyboard and he means "Dual Layer" discs
> > (Though TBH, I've never had any problems with Dual Layer discs, and
> > it's most likely a hardware failure).
> > --
> > Robert "Anaerin" Johnston
> 
> Nope - double-sided is what I mean.  It made no sense to me either
> that double-sided would present any issue, as one person suggested. 
> What I know is this - I've only had issues with two disks, and they're
> both double-sided.

Perhaps if you provided a few details as to what you mean by "issues", 
someone might actually be able to respond intelligibly.  Otherwise, 
we're forced to conclude that you just haven't flipped the disc over.

-JAC

PS- Please don't state your problem in the subject line and then not 
re-state it in the body of your message.  It's just not good 
netiquette.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Xine / libdvdcss can't handle dual-sided discs

[Michael Haan]

On 8/1/05, Robert Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 01/08/05, Till Harbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Saturday 30 July 2005 02:09, Michael Haan wrote:
> > > Has anyone else seen this and have an idea for a fix?
> > For the PC/Player/DVD-Drive a dual sided DVD isn't any different from two
> > different single sided ones. When playing one side none of the involved 
> > parts
> > sees the second side or has any information about it.
> >
> > Or do you expect xine to be able to access both sides without turning the 
> > disc
> > around? That's impossible, standard DVD drives only have one pickup (one
> > laser plus mechanics) and usually only read the "bottom" side of the DVD.
> 
> Unless it's a slip of the keyboard and he means "Dual Layer" discs
> (Though TBH, I've never had any problems with Dual Layer discs, and
> it's most likely a hardware failure).
> --
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Nope - double-sided is what I mean.  It made no sense to me either
that double-sided would present any issue, as one person suggested. 
What I know is this - I've only had issues with two disks, and they're
both double-sided.
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Video Modes with MythTV

[Robert Tsai]

On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:53:16AM -0700, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> At first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
> actually better than the NTSC output. However, after playing with
> things, I'm not sure this is the case. Most of the clarity seems to
> come from simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).
> Sure, there are quite a bit of clarity enhancements, but seeing as
> the resolution is so low, I wonder if it is really worth it. I can
> crank my resolution up, modulate it to NTSC, and I get more screen
> real estate, the picture quality (for an average video user) are
> very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better), but by how much
> and is it really worth it? What does everyone think? 

Plain old SDTV analog cable is 480i (I think).

I get HDTV over-the-air, and even when it is mythtranscode'd down to
720x480 (480p, I guess), the picture is still much better. I think
what I am seeing is the difference between a clear digital signal and
a noisy analog signal, and probably not so much to do with the
increased resolution.

My HDTV will only show 856x480 over its DVI connection anyways (or at
least I can't get a better modeline), so I don't really get any
benefit from keeping 720p or 1080i content, aside from increased
disk-space consumption.

--Rob


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[mythtv-users] HDTV Video Modes with MythTV

[Brandon Rogers]

At first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in
some cases) is actually better than the NTSC output.
However, after playing with things, I'm not sure this
is the case. Most of the clarity seems to come from
simply having such a low resolution (the text is
huge). Sure, there are quite a bit of clarity
enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low,
I wonder if it is really worth it. I can crank my
resolution up, modulate it to NTSC, and I get more
screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
average video user) are very close (admittedly, the
1080i/540p is better), but by how much and is it
really worth it? What does everyone think? 

Thanks,
Brandon
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Re: Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythTV and Sky

[mythtv guy]

--- Allan Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:34 +0100
> From: Allan Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> 
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythTV and Sky
> 
> > Have a look at this.
> > 
> >
>
http://www.cornelius.demon.co.uk/lirc-sky-rflink-howto.html
> > 
> > I've not tried it yet, but have got all the stuff
> and should get
> > around to it soon.
> 
> It works well enough - However, there were still
> missed channel changes 
> for me. How this works is it allows LIRC to output
> the 32khz modulated 
> IR (Modulated in software), which is then modulated
> on top of a 433Mhz 
> (IIRC) carrier onto the input of the box.
> 
> For me, I got ghetto on the Sky box. If you remove
> the front panel and 
> the PCB, you can see the IR receiver (silver box
> with black window). 
> Either remove the receiver or cut the track leading
> from it's output - 
> The 3 leads are 5v, Ground and output. I'm afraid
> the box is in the 
> attic - So I can't give the pinout.
> 
> You can then attach the serial port to this input in
> the same fashion as 
> shown on the above site - Multiple signal diodes to
> drop the voltage.
> 
> You then need to load the lirc-serial driver with
> the option:
> options box1xmit_serial softcarrier=0
> 
> However, there's still a problem. The IR receiver in
> the Sky box is 
> active-high, if I remember correctly. This is
> opposite to most other IR 
> modules. This means that you have to record your own
> lircd.conf (Since 
> any recorded by anyone else will tend to be wrong) -
> Or, like I usually 
> do, you can cheat.
> 
> Change the following functions in lirc_serial.c:
> 
> static inline void on(void)
> {
>  soutp(UART_MCR,hardware[type].off);
> }
> 
> static inline void off(void)
> {
>  soutp(UART_MCR,hardware[type].on);
> }
> 
> But hey, that's just me. Noone else is this nuts.
> Just thought someone 
> might enjoy this tale of wy excessive hardware
> hacking.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Allan.
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Allan,

Your solution interests me as it is what I would have
liked to do in the first place.  You have inspired me
to try it myself - I am driving the serial port DTR
through a voltage divider into a CMOS inverter to give
me a 5v inverted signal which i can feed into the box
in place of the IR sensor signal.  In fact I am
AND'ing the two together so either the IR sensor or
the DTR signal can be used.

Trouble is it would appear as though the remote codes
in my lircd.conf file are no good for this approach.

The sky box certainly doesnt recognise commands sent
from the PC and when I monitor it on an oscillosope
the waveform seems to be every different to that seen
when I press the equivalent buttons on the remote.  Do
you have a copy of the lircd.conf file you used that
you could send me?

At first I missed off the lirc_serial options you
mentioned and I hoped that would be the problem but
even after adding them it still behaves the same way.

Do you have any other ideas why this wouldn't be
working.  Having got this close I would love to be
able to see it through now.

Thanks for any help you can give.





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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Donavan Stanley]

On 8/1/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have the Myth developers considered adding the OSD grayscale work
> around from Xine to the Myth Internal Player or is that not something
> which is feasible?

There's a patch which enables color OSDs with XvMC, but the real
solution is to use a chromakeyed OSD and that's not yet ready for
primetime due to some extensive XvMC rework that happened recently.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Donavan Stanley wrote:

Your stated goal was HDTV playback.  Given that you're most likely
going to be playing back HD content using Myth not xine then it stands
to reason you'd actually test using Myth.


But seeing as I don't yet have a HDTV capture card yet I ended up  
using 1920x1080i samples. One was from the pchdtv.com site and the  
other was a custom made 1080i mpeg2 demo with full 5.1 sound.  A  
third sample was a LotRclip2.mpg clip which can be found via google.



It may be possible that the Myth Internal video player with xvmc can
provide better quality deinterlace and post processing than Xine +
xv. Obviously a deeper understanding of how Myth works with xvmc and
more objective tests are needed.


There is *no* post processing using XvMC.  Not with xine nor with
Myth.  It's decoded by the hardware and displayed (to put it simply),
things like kerneldeint, denoise3d and the like will not work with
XvMC.  Myth does support the use of bob under XvMC as well as a full
OSD which is why I suggested testing with Myth not xine.


Based on available XvMC information that's what I understood the case  
to be. So really it shouldn't matter so much if I'm using Xine + XvMC  
with bob deinterlacing or Myth Internal Player with XvMC. In both  
cases the output should have very similar results. It would be nice  
to actually test this situation but from what you describe I don't  
think I should expect much difference?


As I mentioned in my first post, I wasn't worried so much about the  
lack of OSD when using Xine + XvMC. I know that Myth Internal Video  
player + XvMC works with OSD as I've heard all about the grayscale  
OSD issues. Chances are I would use Xine + xv with post processing  
for DVD playback and stick to Myth Internal Video player + XvMC for  
1080i streams


I did test Xine + XvMC with both one-field and bob deinterlace  
methods and it was clear that bob deinterlacing produced better  
results for my 1080i test clips and on 480i DVD sources. I'm glad to  
hear the Myth Internal Video player supports bob with XvMC. I also  
noted in the Xine docs that there is an apparent work around for  
grayscale OSDs with XvMC. This wasn't something I tried as I was  
mostly focused on deinterlace quality and artifacts that might be  
seen when using XvMC.


Have the Myth developers considered adding the OSD grayscale work  
around from Xine to the Myth Internal Player or is that not something  
which is feasible?


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythDVD offline Archive or Catalog?

[Michael T. Dean]

Robert Johnston wrote:


On 01/08/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


# Prompt the user to insert the disc
xterm -bg NavyBlue -fg White +sb -fs 18 -geometry 40x6 \
 -e prompt "Please insert ${MEDIA_TYPE}:" "${DISC_NAME}"
   


Out of interest, where's that "prompt" command coming from?

I don't seem to have it in Debian...
 

It's the other script, as described in 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/142951#142951 .


Keeping them together, this time, here is the updated (handles spaces) 
prompt_for_media script and the prompt script again.  (Also took the 
movemouse script call out of prompt_for_media--forgot to take it out of 
the updated version I posted.  It's a script I wrote to "move the mouse" 
after running external programs to work around a focus issue with myth 
child windows.  See 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/82722#82722 for details.)


All instructions for setting up and using these scripts and explanations 
of how they work are in the original post:  
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/142951#142951


Glad to see someone is interested enough to test this out..  :)  I hope 
you find it useful.


Mike
#!/bin/bash

MEDIA_TYPE=$1
FILE_NAME=$2

# Find the name of the disc
case "${MEDIA_TYPE}" in
  DVD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .dvd`
;;
  CD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .cd`
;;
  VCD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .vcd`
;;
esac

# Prompt the user to insert the disc
xterm -bg NavyBlue -fg White +sb -fs 18 -geometry 40x6 \
  -e prompt "Please insert ${MEDIA_TYPE}:" "${DISC_NAME}"

# Play the disc
case "${MEDIA_TYPE}" in
  DVD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq --auto-scan dvd
;;
  CD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq /mnt/cd
;;
  VCD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq --auto-scan vcd
;;
esac

#!/bin/bash

MESSAGE=$1
MESSAGE2=$2

echo "${MESSAGE}"
echo
echo "${MESSAGE2}"

## Uncomment the for loop for a standard 80x24 terminal or use the
## xterm command line to customize the display for 5 or 6 lines
#for line in `seq 1 20`; do
  echo
#done

read -n 1 -p "Press any key to continue."

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Re: [mythtv-users] LIRC problem in Mythdvd/Mythvideo (lircd sends twice)

[Mark Schuren]

lots of thanks your in-depth answers! 

unfortunately nothing helps it. any more hints?

"Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Schuren wrote:
> 
> >so i think i have tried everything, replaced lirc, replaced the player
> >application, recompiled mythtv. but problem is still exactly the same.
> >so i guess it is a problem of mythfrontend...
> >
> No.  Works for me.
> 
> >or just a faulty configuration
> >
> Probably.

i also think so but what am i missing??

> 
> >because i use the same lirc button for several actions
> >in different programs...?
> >  
> >
> But not for that reason--every remote button I use in xine is also 
> mapped to an action in Myth, and I don't have any problems.

this gives me hope. are you using a cvs myth version? i'm using the
release from mythtv.org.

> 
> >again, the apps perfectly work with lirc when run stand-alone.
> >
> >but when a player like xine or mplayer (i tried both) is started through
> >mythvideo, all lirc-buttons which i press (and which are intended to be
> >only received by the player - and are actually received by the player
> >correctly) are also received by mythfrontend, after the player quits...
> >  
> >
> Yes.  This is the correct behavior for LIRC--except they should be 
> received /while/ the player is executing.  Upon receipt of a button 
> press, LIRC *always* broadcasts the requested string to *all* registered 
> clients.  It's up to the client to know when to handle it and when to 
> ignore it.  Programs like xine always handle it.  Programs like 
> Myth--ones that start other programs--have to decide whether to ignore it.

that's why i post my questions here, because i assumed that lirc was
behaving normally.  little correction to my statement above: i found out
that it's not ALL key-presses, but SOME key-presses, read below.

> 
> >is there any means to let mythfrontend ignore lircd events as
> >long as an external player is running?
> >
> Yeah.  You just need some code like 
> http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/libs/libmyth/util.cpp 
> lines 797-799.  Oh, wait.  It's already there.  ;)

since i am not a programmer (more a script kiddie) i don't know where
to put these lines nor what exactly they do ;-)

> 
> >or do i have a "focus" problem?
> >  
> >
> No.  LIRC always broadcasts to all clients, so when using MythTV's 
> native LIRC support, focus problems won't make any difference.  If you 
> were using irxevent (and not native LIRC support), focus problems would 
> result in only one--the wrong--app receiving the button press events.

ok good. i realized that lirc is also working with my apps when
they are not in focus.

> 
> >also i am still wondering if my lirc config is good:
> >  
> >
> begin
> prog = mythtv
> button = OFF
> config = Esc
> end
> 
> begin
> prog = xine
> button = OFF
> config = Quit
> end
> 
> 
> >
> >the above means that i use the same button on my remote ("OFF") for
> >2 different things. it is on the one hand used to quit xine (if running),
> >and also used as the escape key for mythtv (if running).
> >  
> >
> That's perfectly fine.  Very close to what I use.

also gives hope.

> 
> >and this is what happens, if i press the "OFF" button, xine terminates
> >as expected, and AFTERWARDS also mythfrontend reacts and leaves the current
> >menu (because it also receives the "escape")...
> >
> That's the part that doesn't make sense...  If it were a problem of Myth 
> not ignoring LIRC button press events, it should be happening while 
> you're watching the video--not after.

i understand, but it's happening on both of myth systems AFTER
closing the player. irxevent isn't there, see below.

> 
> >maybe this is just "working
> >as designed" and i have to get a remote with more keys on it?
> >  
> >
> Nope.  Something is wrong with your config--probably buried deep down 
> within...

sounds too bad. "deep" sounds like "unfindable" :-(

> 
> >if i should provide any more info please let me know.
> >
> >i have no more idea what to try next, please advise! is what i what to do
> >impossible? is anyone else using lirc buttons for more than one application
> >at once (esp. the mythtv/xine/mplayer combo)?
> >  
> >
> Wild guess...  Do you by any chance have a player command that 
> backgrounds xine  (i.e. ends with "&")?  Perhaps the "xine" command 
> being executed is a script that sets up the environment and calls the 
> xine executable with the specified options and backgrounds the process.

no.

"# ps ax | grep xine" during play (started via myth) gives me
29413 ?SLl0:03 xine -D -pfhq --auto-scan dvd
29420 ?Ss 0:00 xine -D -pfhq --auto-scan dvd

so no background process i guess.

> 
> What happens when you play a video through MythVideo using only your 
> keyboard?  Do you get similar behavior?

nope. using the keyboard works perfectly fine, no doubled keystrokes
or alike. not even when i alt-tab to 

[mythtv-users] Record/playback dolby digital

[Tony Lill]

My new cable box has a coax digital out. Is anyone successfully recording
the digital stream and playing it back? If so, what hardware/drivers are
you using? Can you play it back on a frontend without digital audio out?
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythDVD offline Archive or Catalog?

[Robert Johnston]

On 01/08/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> # Prompt the user to insert the disc
> xterm -bg NavyBlue -fg White +sb -fs 18 -geometry 40x6 \
>   -e prompt "Please insert ${MEDIA_TYPE}:" "${DISC_NAME}"

Out of interest, where's that "prompt" command coming from?

I don't seem to have it in Debian...
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Re: [mythtv-users] LIRC problem in Mythdvd/Mythvideo (lircd sends twice)

[Mark Schuren]

thanks for your reply,

added "repeat = 3" for all buttons in ~/.lircrc and even
"repeat = 5" to the "OFF" button. i start xine through mythdvd,
then just exit xine again using the OFF button, xine closes,
and some millisecs later i see mythfrontend leave the CD/DVD
menu :-( so still same issue. it is in fact cued up, at least
i can actually watch myth execute lirc commands generated during
play 

frustrating :-(

"Matthew K. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Maybe instead of being queued up, it's a matter of key presses being
> repeated.  Try adding in the repeat option in your .lircrc file.
> 
> For example:
> 
> begin
> remote = grayHauppauge
> button = Power
> prog   = xine
> repeat = 3
> config = Quit
> end
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Matt



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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb probs

[Jan Grzymala-Busse]

I solved the problem!

Actually the problem is in the mythweb code (if you are using your web
server/php with your own prefs, i.e. running other websites).  There
are quite a few cases of php short tags " wrote:
> > I am operating on a brand new FC4 install with yum having updated the
> > system (and installed mythtv-suite).  I couldn't find anything on this
> > error in the mythtv.org website or on this list, has anyone run into
> > this?  Thanks!
> 
> My best guess is that something got corrupted in the package or during
> the install.  My suggestion is to reinstall, and if that doesn't work,
> try installing the tarball instead of the rpm.
> 
> Since you didn't list the version (I assume it's .18.1), and those line
> numbers correspond to the last line of each of those files, my guess is
> that there's a missing } somewhere.   Maybe you want to just grab those
> specific files from the release tree:
> 
> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-18-fixes/mythplugins/mythweb/themes/Default
> 
> -Chris
> 


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythDVD offline Archive or Catalog?

[Michael T. Dean]

Michael T. Dean wrote:


Roman Romaniuk wrote:

I have a fairly large DVD collection, but nowhere near sufficient 
disk space to be able to host all of it on my backend server. Is 
there any way to maintain the DVD listing within mythdvd, but have a 
note pop up requesting that the user insert the appropriate DVD (and 
possibly noting the DVD's location)  into the drive when it is 
selected for play?


As of now, there's nothing within Myth to handle it.  However, it's 
not too difficult to "fake it"...


Forgot--some people use spaces in their filenames.  Updated 
prompt_for_media properly parses DVD name even when it includes spaces.  
I guess that just means you shouldn't write code--even what seems like 
simple code--at 3:00 in the morning...


Mike
#!/bin/bash

MEDIA_TYPE=$1
FILE_NAME=$2

# Find the name of the disc
case "${MEDIA_TYPE}" in
  DVD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .dvd`
;;
  CD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .cd`
;;
  VCD)
DISC_NAME=`basename "$FILE_NAME" .vcd`
;;
esac

# Prompt the user to insert the disc
xterm -bg NavyBlue -fg White +sb -fs 18 -geometry 40x6 \
  -e prompt "Please insert ${MEDIA_TYPE}:" "${DISC_NAME}"

# Play the disc
case "${MEDIA_TYPE}" in
  DVD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq --auto-scan dvd
;;
  CD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq /mnt/cd
;;
  VCD)
xine --no-splash --auto-play=fhq --auto-scan vcd
;;
esac

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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Donavan Stanley]

On 8/1/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You know, you *might* want to test with Myth instead of Xine since
> > neither of those issues apply to Myth.
> 
> I'm assuming by 'Myth' you are referencing the Myth Internal video
> player?

Your stated goal was HDTV playback.  Given that you're most likely
going to be playing back HD content using Myth not xine then it stands
to reason you'd actually test using Myth.

> It may be possible that the Myth Internal video player with xvmc can
> provide better quality deinterlace and post processing than Xine +
> xv. Obviously a deeper understanding of how Myth works with xvmc and
> more objective tests are needed.

There is *no* post processing using XvMC.  Not with xine nor with
Myth.  It's decoded by the hardware and displayed (to put it simply),
things like kerneldeint, denoise3d and the like will not work with
XvMC.  Myth does support the use of bob under XvMC as well as a full
OSD which is why I suggested testing with Myth not xine.
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RE: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

[Dave Packham]

But it would be nice to have a DVD to divx6 converter that would keep
all the menus etc etc..  And make a nice small file

Someday

Dave P

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac Richards
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:39 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

On Monday 01 August 2005 10:58 am, Dave Packham wrote:
> Any word on if the new Divx 6 format will be supported?  Or did I miss
> that thread?
>
> http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php
>
> it's the new divx media format.

It's just avi, and retains all of avi's crappiness that makes it
completely 
unsuitable for a pvr.

Isaac


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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Reset Overscan after fullscreen apps

[Greg Estabrooks]

> I added it to my pc games list and it works just fine but when it switches 
> full screen it clears any and all overscan settings i have made with 
> nvidia-settings. It does the same with my NES emulator. Is there any way, 

 I've run into this myself with a few apps.   The nvidia driver still reports
that the overscan value is the same as before, however it's obviously not.
So I wrapped the apps in a shell script which would run nvidia-settings again
after the app exited and reset the overscan value.

 One thing to note is that since the nvidia driver thinks it is already
using the overscan value you had previously set it to then it will ignore
you if you try to set it to the same value, so I had to issue two overscan 
changes. One to a different value (I just change it by a value of 1) and then
back to what I had originally wanted it to be.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Donavan Stanley wrote:


On 7/31/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I had two issues that for me are critical.

When using xvmc with Xine none of the OSD overlays would work. This
meant no on screen information, subtitles, or closed captions during
playback. I didn't investigate this to much however I think it could
be worked around. One possibility seems to be with the Xine xxmc
support.

XvMC appears to do very simple one-field deinterlacing in hardware.
Xine 1.1.0 has experimental XvMC bob deinterlace support which I
enabled and saw some improvements. I compared various DVD (480i
content) scenes played via Xv with Xine deinterlace post processing
and XvMC with hardware deinterlace. It was pretty clear to me that Xv
with deinterlace post processing was producing a much better picture
than XvMC using hardware deinterlacing.



You know, you *might* want to test with Myth instead of Xine since
neither of those issues apply to Myth.


I'm assuming by 'Myth' you are referencing the Myth Internal video  
player? For 480i DVD playback using xine seemed like a valid test to  
me as I was able to directly compare the same source material via two  
different display methods. I gather what you're suggesting is that I  
should have also used the Myth Internal video player with xvmc  
support and compare the results against xine + xv.  Honestly, I  
didn't think to try the Internal video player because it seems most  
people, including myself, use Xine for DVD playback to get DVD menu  
support.


Is there technical documentation on how the Myth Internal video  
player uses XvMC along with any other post processing filters?  
(Besides the source code, of course!)  I've seen posts to the list  
suggesting that when using XvMC with Myth it's best to also disable  
the deinterlace option in Myth as well as the two could conflict.  
Does this sound accurate to you and does that mean that Myth + xvmc  
relies strictly on the xmvc deinterlace routines in hardware?


It may be possible that the Myth Internal video player with xvmc can  
provide better quality deinterlace and post processing than Xine +  
xv. Obviously a deeper understanding of how Myth works with xvmc and  
more objective tests are needed.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Scott]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Donavan Stanley wrote:


On 7/31/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh yeah, one more thing :) I thought I read that some or all of the
unichrome chips had a limitation on video out where they could not
output 1280x720 (720p) video or above. Obviously this is a problem if
you're trying to hook your unichrome based board to a HDTV that wants
to accept either 720p or 1080i input sources.



On a mailing list that gets archived and searched quite often it's
best NOT to post things you thing you read as it confuses things.
Next thing you know you've got people quoting your post in irc saying
"I read that some guy said he thought that they didn't do HDTV".  ;)


I think I qualified my statements enough to provide sufficient  
warning about the accuracy of my comments. Next time I'll add some  
 tags and "under construction" graphics.



For the record, the Unichrome Pro chipset DOES offer hardware
acceleration of HDTV streams as well as MPEG4 acceleration.  (Though
the open source drivers don't support MPEG4 acceleration).


Exactly why I was posting in the first place. Thanks for the follow up.


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RE: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

[Dave Packham]

Heh agreed


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac Richards
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:39 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

On Monday 01 August 2005 10:58 am, Dave Packham wrote:
> Any word on if the new Divx 6 format will be supported?  Or did I miss
> that thread?
>
> http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php
>
> it's the new divx media format.

It's just avi, and retains all of avi's crappiness that makes it
completely 
unsuitable for a pvr.

Isaac


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Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC output not working

[Todd Ignasiak]

It's working for me with svn image 6963.Although, I have a
persmissions problem I haven't debugged yet -- it only works when run
as root.

Gentoo  x86-64
Athlon 64 3200+
Nvidia FX5200, 128MB, fanless
Nvidia driver 7667

I also get the stuttering when the OSD is displayed.  Sometimes the
stuttering doesn't stop,  but usually it only happens when the OSD is
up.

On 8/1/05, Mark Schuren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> works for me too on two boxes, great video quality and very low
> cpu load, but the OSD looks ugly and the video/audio starts
> stuttering for the time the OSD is displayed.
> 
> Myth 0.18.1
> Mandrake 10.2
> NV driver version 7667
> 
> nVidia FX5600 (Gainward, 256MB DDR) / FX5200 (onboard, shared RAM)
> AthlonXP 3000+ / 2400+
> 
> When the OSD stuff is fixed, I think the XvMC stuff is really
> worth using it instead of xv.
> 
> Ray Lischner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Anyone who has this working - What Video card are you using? (maybe I
> > > could just upgrade/downgrade the video).
> >
> > XvMC works for me (OSD sometimes causes jittery A/V, but that's the only
> > problem I have)
> >
> > Myth 0.18.1
> > Suse 9.3
> > version 7167 of nVidia drivers
> >
> > nVidia FX 5200 (Asus)
> > Athlon XP 2000+
> > HD-3000 DVB
> > --
> > Ray Lischner
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] LIRC problem in Mythdvd/Mythvideo (lircd sends twice)

[Michael T. Dean]

Mark Schuren wrote:


so i think i have tried everything, replaced lirc, replaced the player
application, recompiled mythtv. but problem is still exactly the same.
so i guess it is a problem of mythfrontend...


No.  Works for me.


or just a faulty configuration


Probably.


because i use the same lirc button for several actions
in different programs...?
 

But not for that reason--every remote button I use in xine is also 
mapped to an action in Myth, and I don't have any problems.



again, the apps perfectly work with lirc when run stand-alone.

but when a player like xine or mplayer (i tried both) is started through
mythvideo, all lirc-buttons which i press (and which are intended to be
only received by the player - and are actually received by the player
correctly) are also received by mythfrontend, after the player quits...
 

Yes.  This is the correct behavior for LIRC--except they should be 
received /while/ the player is executing.  Upon receipt of a button 
press, LIRC *always* broadcasts the requested string to *all* registered 
clients.  It's up to the client to know when to handle it and when to 
ignore it.  Programs like xine always handle it.  Programs like 
Myth--ones that start other programs--have to decide whether to ignore it.



is there any means to let mythfrontend ignore lircd events as
long as an external player is running?

Yeah.  You just need some code like 
http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythtv/libs/libmyth/util.cpp 
lines 797-799.  Oh, wait.  It's already there.  ;)



or do i have a "focus" problem?
 

No.  LIRC always broadcasts to all clients, so when using MythTV's 
native LIRC support, focus problems won't make any difference.  If you 
were using irxevent (and not native LIRC support), focus problems would 
result in only one--the wrong--app receiving the button press events.



also i am still wondering if my lirc config is good:
 


begin
   prog = mythtv
   button = OFF
   config = Esc
end

begin
   prog = xine
   button = OFF
   config = Quit
end
   



the above means that i use the same button on my remote ("OFF") for
2 different things. it is on the one hand used to quit xine (if running),
and also used as the escape key for mythtv (if running).
 


That's perfectly fine.  Very close to what I use.


and this is what happens, if i press the "OFF" button, xine terminates
as expected, and AFTERWARDS also mythfrontend reacts and leaves the current
menu (because it also receives the "escape")...

That's the part that doesn't make sense...  If it were a problem of Myth 
not ignoring LIRC button press events, it should be happening while 
you're watching the video--not after.



maybe this is just "working
as designed" and i have to get a remote with more keys on it?
 

Nope.  Something is wrong with your config--probably buried deep down 
within...



if i should provide any more info please let me know.

i have no more idea what to try next, please advise! is what i what to do
impossible? is anyone else using lirc buttons for more than one application
at once (esp. the mythtv/xine/mplayer combo)?
 

Wild guess...  Do you by any chance have a player command that 
backgrounds xine  (i.e. ends with "&")?  Perhaps the "xine" command 
being executed is a script that sets up the environment and calls the 
xine executable with the specified options and backgrounds the process.


What happens when you play a video through MythVideo using only your 
keyboard?  Do you get similar behavior?  Or, is it impossible to control 
xine using the keyboard when started through Myth without Alt-Tab'ing to 
the xine window first (focus problem)?  If so, it's probably irxevent 
(keep reading...).


You said that irxevent is not running.  How sure are you?  Backup your 
".lircrc"/"lircrc" file and remove all the irxevent configs just to make 
sure (it's possible it's being started by something else).  Because the 
events are occurring after xine exits, it seems this is the most 
plausible reason for this behavior--you have a focus problem that sends 
keys to Myth, but because Myth is blocked waiting for xine to exit, the 
events are populated on the X event queue.  Since the keys are getting 
into the queue after you use the remote, someone started irxevent--which 
is sending keys to Myth.  Then, when xine exits, Myth processes the 
queued X events, giving the behavior you're seeing.



any help is appreciated!
 

If nothing else, I hope this helps you to narrow your search so you're 
not chasing non-existant bugs...


LIRC is working the way it's supposed to.  It isn't a focus problem 
(unless you've also got irxevent in the mix).  Since Myth isn't 
responding to the commands when the buttons are pressed, it doesn't seem 
to be a problem with Myth failing to set the lirc_lock.  LIRC doesn't 
queue up events, so if there is a queue of events executing, it's 
probably coming from elsewhere.


Good luck,
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Re: [mythtv-users] UK Sky+ box with Pace rf2link

[Julian Edwards]

Ant Daniel wrote:


Just a quick check, there's some sort of setting about power
on/control on my Sky box (I have no idea where it is on a Sky+ box,
and as I can't get access to my Sky box I couldn't tell you where it
is there) This, as I understand it, needs to be switched on for the
RF2link to work  

I've done that thanks.  I get a nice red light appear on the rf2link 
device :)



(also needs to be plugged into the RF1 output.



RF *1* ?  Is that a typo?

Thx,
J
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Re: [mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

[Isaac Richards]

On Monday 01 August 2005 10:58 am, Dave Packham wrote:
> Any word on if the new Divx 6 format will be supported?  Or did I miss
> that thread?
>
> http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php
>
> it's the new divx media format.

It's just avi, and retains all of avi's crappiness that makes it completely 
unsuitable for a pvr.

Isaac
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Re: [mythtv-users] LIRC problem in Mythdvd/Mythvideo (lircd sends twice)

[Matthew K. Lee]

> > > > begin
> > > > prog = mythtv
> > > > button = OFF
> > > > config = Esc
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > begin
> > > > prog = xine
> > > > button = OFF
> > > > config = Quit
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > is it a bad idea to use the same lirc key for two
> > > > programs in general?? i hope
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > i use mandrake 10.2 with original lirc rpms (0.6.6)
> > > > and my remote works
> > > > perfectly with myth / mplayer / xine and others when
> > > > run stand-alone. no
> > > > irxevent is running, all apps have native lirc
> > > > support.
> > > >
> > > > why does lirc cue-up all button-presses for
> > > > mythfrontend while xine is actually
> > > > in focus (and also accepting these key-presses from
> > > > my remote correctly)?? first
> > > > i thought this might be irxevent. related problem.
> > > > but although i have keys
> > > > defined for irxevent in the same .lircrc i have no
> > > > irxevent running.
> > > >
> > > > whenever xine exits, mythfrontend processes all lirc
> > > > events which occured during
> > > > xine playback. is that a xine issue or a problem
> > > > with lirc or myth?
> > > >
> > > > did anyone have the same probs?
> > > >
> > > > i'm unsure if i should uninstall the mandrake lirc
> > > > 0.6.6 packages and build my
> > > > own lirc-0.7.x ? and if, would i need to afterwards
> > > > recompile myth/xine for the
> > > > new lirc version??
> > > >
> > > > thanx for any hints!

Maybe instead of being queued up, it's a matter of key presses being
repeated.  Try adding in the repeat option in your .lircrc file.

For example:

begin
remote = grayHauppauge
button = Power
prog   = xine
repeat = 3
config = Quit
end

Best of luck,

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb probs

[Chris Petersen]

I am operating on a brand new FC4 install with yum having updated the
system (and installed mythtv-suite).  I couldn't find anything on this
error in the mythtv.org website or on this list, has anyone run into
this?  Thanks!


My best guess is that something got corrupted in the package or during 
the install.  My suggestion is to reinstall, and if that doesn't work, 
try installing the tarball instead of the rpm.


Since you didn't list the version (I assume it's .18.1), and those line 
numbers correspond to the last line of each of those files, my guess is 
that there's a missing } somewhere.   Maybe you want to just grab those 
specific files from the release tree:


http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-18-fixes/mythplugins/mythweb/themes/Default

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Aspect ratio troubles

[Jo Shields]

Chris Martin wrote:


I'm using a Nova-T card with the tv output going through a PVR 350 tv
out to a 4:3 tv.  As far as I can tell all Uk digital broadcasts are
16:9, however the picture that is displayed on my tv fills the entire
screen and is stectched vertically.  It is quite possibly missing
portions form the sides as well.  Pressing W during playback cycles
through the aspect ratio options but otherwise does nothing.

I'm pretty certain it was displaying fine for the first couple of
hours I had the card, until I decided to play with the 'apect
override' settings in myth.  16:9 output captured from my PVR 350
displays perfectly.

Any ideas?

thanks,

Chris
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I think the PVR350 might be getting involved - I have a Nova-T playing 
back via an Nvidia Geforce FX5200; widescreen shows are shown as 
widescreen, full-frame as full-frame. Of course, I'm using a 4:3 theme 
in MythTV, which may have an effect (the 16:9 theme supplied IS 
stretched vertically, incorrectly).


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[mythtv-users] Aspect ratio troubles

[Chris Martin]

I'm using a Nova-T card with the tv output going through a PVR 350 tv
out to a 4:3 tv.  As far as I can tell all Uk digital broadcasts are
16:9, however the picture that is displayed on my tv fills the entire
screen and is stectched vertically.  It is quite possibly missing
portions form the sides as well.  Pressing W during playback cycles
through the aspect ratio options but otherwise does nothing.

I'm pretty certain it was displaying fine for the first couple of
hours I had the card, until I decided to play with the 'apect
override' settings in myth.  16:9 output captured from my PVR 350
displays perfectly.

Any ideas?

thanks,

Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] UK Sky+ box with Pace rf2link

[Ant Daniel]

On 8/1/05, Julian Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I just moved out of an NTL cable area so had to reconfigure for a Sky+
> box.  I just built the hardware at this page:
> http://www.cornelius.demon.co.uk/lirc-sky-rflink-howto.html
> but the Sky+ box is just not responding to anything I send.  I've got a
> multimeter on the cable and I can see fluctuating voltages when I use
> irsend to try and give it a command so I know I've got most of it working.
> 
> The only other thing I can think that may be broken is the lircd.conf
> file for this box.  It's one of the very latest grey Sky+ branded boxes
> and the model number on the bottom is a BSKYB 3100.
> 
> Is anyone successfully using the Pace rf2link with this particular box?
> If so, I would love to get a copy of your lircd.conf please.  I've found
> 3 different configs so far and none of them work.  If someone has
> something that they definitely know to work with this box and an rf2link
> then I can start eliminating potential problems.
> 
> TIA,
> J.
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Just a quick check, there's some sort of setting about power
on/control on my Sky box (I have no idea where it is on a Sky+ box,
and as I can't get access to my Sky box I couldn't tell you where it
is there) This, as I understand it, needs to be switched on for the
RF2link to work (also needs to be plugged into the RF1 output.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Cory Papenfuss]

The best approach is to add code to avidemux2 (and probably 
mplex/replex/transcode/whatever) to handle varying A/V sync within the 
stream.  Since most players (i.e. xine, MPlayer, and even Myth) can do so, it 
should be possible--the hard part is finding someone willing to make the time 
to make the changes.  (I'll admit I'm being selfish with my time since DISH 
provides a workaround for me.)


	I've inquired about that on with avideumx developers.  It's pretty 
low on the list.  I actually think that something like gopchop of gopdit 
is a better place to start.  It will cut the streams in place without 
de/remuxing.  It just needs to get some bugs worked out, and figure out 
how to set timestamps after a cut.


	The problem is a matter of heirarchy AIUI.  The synchronization 
between the Video and Audio streams that's causing the problem is at the 
ProgramStream (PS) level.  That's where the PTS/DTS lives.  Once it's 
demuxed, that information is gone.  That's why it needs to be done in 
place.


	A more fundamental question would be how should something like 
gopchop deal with cuts.  Allow for 4-5 minute "magic" timeshifts in the 
resulting stream?  Change the timestamp of all packets after the first 
cut?  Should it also allow for inserting the VOBU padding so another 
replex isn't necessary?


	ProjectX is pretty close to the only one I've found that does it. 
It appears to try to fix timestamps and has a dizzing array of options to 
do so.  It's intended for manipulating DVB streams (with multiple 
programs), so it's fairly complicated.  Too bad it uses the J-language... 
much larger than it would need to be for a CLI utility.


-Cory

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[mythtv-users] UK Sky+ box with Pace rf2link

[Julian Edwards]

Hi folks

I just moved out of an NTL cable area so had to reconfigure for a Sky+ 
box.  I just built the hardware at this page: 
http://www.cornelius.demon.co.uk/lirc-sky-rflink-howto.html
but the Sky+ box is just not responding to anything I send.  I've got a 
multimeter on the cable and I can see fluctuating voltages when I use 
irsend to try and give it a command so I know I've got most of it working.


The only other thing I can think that may be broken is the lircd.conf 
file for this box.  It's one of the very latest grey Sky+ branded boxes 
and the model number on the bottom is a BSKYB 3100.


Is anyone successfully using the Pace rf2link with this particular box?  
If so, I would love to get a copy of your lircd.conf please.  I've found 
3 different configs so far and none of them work.  If someone has 
something that they definitely know to work with this box and an rf2link 
then I can start eliminating potential problems.


TIA,
J.
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Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC output not working

[Mark Schuren]

works for me too on two boxes, great video quality and very low
cpu load, but the OSD looks ugly and the video/audio starts
stuttering for the time the OSD is displayed.

Myth 0.18.1
Mandrake 10.2
NV driver version 7667

nVidia FX5600 (Gainward, 256MB DDR) / FX5200 (onboard, shared RAM)
AthlonXP 3000+ / 2400+

When the OSD stuff is fixed, I think the XvMC stuff is really
worth using it instead of xv.

Ray Lischner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Anyone who has this working - What Video card are you using? (maybe I
> > could just upgrade/downgrade the video).
>
> XvMC works for me (OSD sometimes causes jittery A/V, but that's the only
> problem I have)
>
> Myth 0.18.1
> Suse 9.3
> version 7167 of nVidia drivers
>
> nVidia FX 5200 (Asus)
> Athlon XP 2000+
> HD-3000 DVB
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Re: [mythtv-users] Xine / libdvdcss can't handle dual-sided discs

[Robert Johnston]

On 01/08/05, Till Harbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Saturday 30 July 2005 02:09, Michael Haan wrote:
> > Has anyone else seen this and have an idea for a fix?
> For the PC/Player/DVD-Drive a dual sided DVD isn't any different from two
> different single sided ones. When playing one side none of the involved parts
> sees the second side or has any information about it.
> 
> Or do you expect xine to be able to access both sides without turning the disc
> around? That's impossible, standard DVD drives only have one pickup (one
> laser plus mechanics) and usually only read the "bottom" side of the DVD.

Unless it's a slip of the keyboard and he means "Dual Layer" discs
(Though TBH, I've never had any problems with Dual Layer discs, and
it's most likely a hardware failure).
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Jo Shields]

Michael T. Dean wrote:


Cory Papenfuss wrote:


On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:


On 8/1/05, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just looked through this a bit.  I must admit I haven't 
tried
it, but as far as I can tell from reading through the code, it 
starts out

by demuxing/remuxing the MPEG stream.  That will break audio sync on
arbitrary ivtv captures.



Ok, I had not realized this.. although I have acctually used these
scripts and my recordings are all IVTV captures, so I am not sure how
big a problem this is..
Changing strategy would probably be wise though..



It's a very insidious problem.  The ivtv chip will hiccup once in 
awhile, and generated A/V offsets in the capture that break standard 
demux/remux utilities.  It doesn't happen most of the time.  It does 
seem to happen more often from tape captures (where I found it).



Agreed.  Also, on some analog cable feeds (i.e. the one in my area).

Unfortunately, all of the cut and/or burn scripts (nuvexport as a 
big example) use this technique.  It works 99% for 90% of the people 
out there who never capture tapes.  It works probably 60% of the time 
for the 8% of the people who don't do tapes, but have marginal 
reception.



(which includes users of analog cable and probably OTA)


  It works 10% of the time for the 2% who capture from tapes.

In other words, most people don't notice the problem... but some 
day they likely will... :)



To give you an example, I had a 2-hour show recorded from the History 
Channel using the local cable company's analog feed.  I've done a lot 
of work to ensure the best signal quality possible (proper choice of 
cables, connectors, etc., and proper placement/use of amplifiers, 
splitters, etc.), but the same happens when taking the cable feed 
directly to the PVR-250 without any amps, splitters, or anything 
else.  When I cut commercials in avidemux2, I ended up with a A/V sync 
being off by about 5 seconds.  When I used replex before cutting (to 
"average" out the sync offset), the greatest offset I saw was about 3 
seconds, but there was always an offset.  Using ProjectX resulted in 
proper sync throughout--except for small sections up to about 30 
seconds in length with a tiny, but noticeable offset--but audio 
artifacts at several locations (i.e. words clipped when truncating the 
audio stream or clicks and pops added to the audio).


Fortunately, this doesn't happen with my DISH video source, so I do 
everything I can to ensure I never have to archive anything from the 
cable video source.


The best approach is to add code to avidemux2 (and probably 
mplex/replex/transcode/whatever) to handle varying A/V sync within the 
stream.  Since most players (i.e. xine, MPlayer, and even Myth) can do 
so, it should be possible--the hard part is finding someone willing to 
make the time to make the changes.  (I'll admit I'm being selfish with 
my time since DISH provides a workaround for me.)


Mike
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Does anyone know to what degree this desync issue affects DVB-T recordings?

--Jo Shields
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[mythtv-users] Divx 6 new format?

[Dave Packham]

Any word on if the new Divx 6 format will be supported?  Or did I miss
that thread?  

http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php

it's the new divx media format.


Dave Packham

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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Michael T. Dean]

Cory Papenfuss wrote:


On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:


On 8/1/05, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just looked through this a bit.  I must admit I haven't tried
it, but as far as I can tell from reading through the code, it 
starts out

by demuxing/remuxing the MPEG stream.  That will break audio sync on
arbitrary ivtv captures.


Ok, I had not realized this.. although I have acctually used these
scripts and my recordings are all IVTV captures, so I am not sure how
big a problem this is..
Changing strategy would probably be wise though..


It's a very insidious problem.  The ivtv chip will hiccup once in 
awhile, and generated A/V offsets in the capture that break standard 
demux/remux utilities.  It doesn't happen most of the time.  It does 
seem to happen more often from tape captures (where I found it).


Agreed.  Also, on some analog cable feeds (i.e. the one in my area).

Unfortunately, all of the cut and/or burn scripts (nuvexport as a 
big example) use this technique.  It works 99% for 90% of the people 
out there who never capture tapes.  It works probably 60% of the time 
for the 8% of the people who don't do tapes, but have marginal reception.


(which includes users of analog cable and probably OTA)


  It works 10% of the time for the 2% who capture from tapes.

In other words, most people don't notice the problem... but some 
day they likely will... :)


To give you an example, I had a 2-hour show recorded from the History 
Channel using the local cable company's analog feed.  I've done a lot of 
work to ensure the best signal quality possible (proper choice of 
cables, connectors, etc., and proper placement/use of amplifiers, 
splitters, etc.), but the same happens when taking the cable feed 
directly to the PVR-250 without any amps, splitters, or anything else.  
When I cut commercials in avidemux2, I ended up with a A/V sync being 
off by about 5 seconds.  When I used replex before cutting (to "average" 
out the sync offset), the greatest offset I saw was about 3 seconds, but 
there was always an offset.  Using ProjectX resulted in proper sync 
throughout--except for small sections up to about 30 seconds in length 
with a tiny, but noticeable offset--but audio artifacts at several 
locations (i.e. words clipped when truncating the audio stream or clicks 
and pops added to the audio).


Fortunately, this doesn't happen with my DISH video source, so I do 
everything I can to ensure I never have to archive anything from the 
cable video source.


The best approach is to add code to avidemux2 (and probably 
mplex/replex/transcode/whatever) to handle varying A/V sync within the 
stream.  Since most players (i.e. xine, MPlayer, and even Myth) can do 
so, it should be possible--the hard part is finding someone willing to 
make the time to make the changes.  (I'll admit I'm being selfish with 
my time since DISH provides a workaround for me.)


Mike
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[mythtv-users] Black Screen, White Bars with sound

[Marc Maniscalco]

I have been using MythTV for about a month now, and it
was all working pretty good.  Last night I was fast
forwarding and my picture just went out.  The screen
is black with 2 thick white bar going down.  I still
hear the sound.  This is all going out a PVR350.

I can get to the GUI fine and see everything there,
but anytime I go to live TV or view a recording it is
just black screen and white bars.  I can even see the
shows running in the little preview windows.

Has this happened to anyone else?

I fixed it once with a complete reboot.  Restarting
the frontend didn't seem to help.  

Thanks,
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[mythtv-users] Mythweb probs

[Jan Grzymala-Busse]

The main web page of the mythweb interface loads up perfectly, but
when I try anything from there on, I have the following messages:

(click on a show listing)
Parse error: parse error, unexpected ';', expecting T_FUNCTION in
/var/www/html/mythweb/themes/Default/program_detail.php on line 373

(manual scheduling)
Parse error: parse error, unexpected ';', expecting T_FUNCTION in
/var/www/html/mythweb/themes/Default/schedule_manually.php on line 185

etc...

I am operating on a brand new FC4 install with yum having updated the
system (and installed mythtv-suite).  I couldn't find anything on this
error in the mythtv.org website or on this list, has anyone run into
this?  Thanks!

-Jan

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Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC output not working

[Ray Lischner]

> Anyone who has this working - What Video card are you using? (maybe I
> could just upgrade/downgrade the video).

XvMC works for me (OSD sometimes causes jittery A/V, but that's the only
problem I have)

Myth 0.18.1
Suse 9.3
version 7167 of nVidia drivers

nVidia FX 5200 (Asus)
Athlon XP 2000+
HD-3000 DVB
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU recommendation instead of EPIA?

[Nick Rosier]

I'm running an AMD Sempron 3100+ as front/backend combo. It's the same
core as the AMD64 minus 64bit extensions (don't need them) and has
Cool 'n Quiet. 95% of the time the CPU is running at 1GHz @ 1.1V. When
transcoding/commercial-detecting it switches to 1.8Ghz @ 1.4V. Enough
CPU-power for me.
I read somewhere that the CPU only uses 7 to 8 W when in low-power
which is nice on the electricity bill. Less energy = less heat so the
fans turn at a low speed so fairly quiet (you can hear the difference
when the box is transcoding :-) ).

For me this CPU had the best of all worlds:
- fairly inexpensive (when compared to latest Intel of AMD64)
- less power-hungry thanks to Cool 'n Quiet
- fairly quiet thanks to Cool 'n Quiet

Hope this information will help you.

N.

On 8/1/05, Craig Hagerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am planning on building a mythTV box and need a recommendation
> regarding CPU. My original plan was to build around a mini-itx EPIA
> system (EPIA M-1 or M-12000). However, after reading through this
> board (and having a previous question answered) I think that I should
> consider another system. I am concerned about transcoding performance
> with the EPIA CPUs.
> 
> I plan to use this box only as a back end to record TV and transcode.
> I understand that with EPIA CPUs performance for transcoding is
> terrible. What kind of CPU would you recommend? I don't want to spend
> too much (otherwise, I wouldn't ask here - I would just go buy the
> lastest from AMD or Intel). Also, I would prefer to build a system
> that is:
> - less power-hungry (uses less electricity)
> - is fairly quiet
> - has a smaller form factor
> 
> This is why I originally planned a mini-itx system. I know it is a
> subjective question, but what kind of (AMD / INTEL) CPU provides the
> 'sweet spot' for price vs. performance (vis. a vis. transcoding)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Putting the Computer to sleep (low-power)

[Nigel Metheringham]

On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 07:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:16:49PM +0200, Marius Schrecker wrote:
> > I would also love to know how to get this to work in Linux. It's not so
> > much putting the disk to sleep as keeping it there. I've never managed to
> > get a HD to powerdown (using hdparm) for more than half a second without
> > being woken up again. :(
> 
> If you are using a journalled filesystem (virtually anything other than
> ext2) then you need to mount using the noatime option so that the
> journal flushes don't trigger atime updates.

The advice here is fine - mounting noatime reduces the writes that are
generated to the disk (and in many cases people will never ever notice
that atime is missing - its a relatively specialised requirement).
However this has nothing to do with journalling.  The journal is outside
the filesystem (even on very old ext3 where the journal exists as a
special visible file the atime updates didn't apply to it), so
journalling does not affect atime flushes.  

However there is a load of standard system activity which will result in
(say) a read of the (buffer cached) root directory of a filesystem -
this is a read of the directory so now the directory atime has to be
updated, resulting in a disk write.  Thats why turning atime off is a
good idea for machines that wish to power down the disks.

Nigel.

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Fwd: [mythtv-users] 6200 Firewire issues

[Alex Brekken]

No, I'm running FC3 installed from ATRPM's - so I'm not sure about the
version of gcc.  Let me know if I can be of any help as it sure would
be great to nail this one - currently I'd say about 20% of my
recordings done from FireWire fail for this reason.

On 7/31/05, Mike Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> You wrote...
>
> "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
> what(): St9bad_alloc
> Aborted"
>
> Yes, I get that too.  Do you happen to be running Fedora Core 4 (or
> specifically, was mythfrontend
> compiled with gcc 4?
>
> The std::bad_alloc problem seems to be related to the aspect ratio
> calculated in NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp.
> I'm wondering if maybe the new compiler or runtime is treating inf/nan
> (floating point) differently...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Alex Brekken wrote:
>
> >Gambit, just to add to your question (without offering any
> >solutions...) I just recently started using firewire via a 6200 on a
> >slave backend on my system.  While I don't experience any issues with
> >channel changing at all, I do get the same 15 second timeout that
> >you're seeing - particularly while trying to watch live TV through the
> >firewire.  Additionally, I will get some recordings that cause the
> >frontend to crash.  They're not zero-size recordings, but something
> >gets "corrupted' to some degree which causes Myth to freak out when
> >trying to view them. They give this error on the frontend logs:
> >
> >"terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
> >what(): St9bad_alloc
> >Aborted"
> >
> > Interestingly, they can be played back successfully using mplayer
> >manually.  Also, they playback just fine in the small "preview" window
> >in Myth on the recorded shows screen.   After searching the mailing
> >lists, I know I'm not alone in experiencing this either.
> >
> >Anyway, I too am searching for solutions to both of these problems as
> >I think many (most?) 6200-firewire users are experiencing them.  Does
> >anyone know if there's been any development recently on anything
> >firewire related? (or if there's anything in the pipeline?)
> >
> >On 7/29/05, Gambit Declined <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On 7/28/05, Gambit Declined <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 7/28/05, Mario Limonciello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Possibly the show you are trying to record has protections enabled (or
> possibly the channel).  Try a show that you know doesn't record.  Just
> use test-mpeg2 to try to manually record it into a temporary directory
> and see what happens.
> 
> 
> >>>Ouch! Seperate shows are encrypted? I thought they just encrypted the 
> >>>channels.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Sorry for replying to myself, but I know it isn't seperate encrypted
> >>programs. I have
> >>been able to record the same program on the same channel. Does anyone
> >>know of a way to have the driver (er... what is this called in linux?)
> >>reset itself after each show? Maybe that'll do it.
> >>
> >>BTW: I have tried gscanbus and that doesn't work. :-p
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Re: [mythtv-users] Video Pixelation

[Michael T. Dean]

Jason Lee wrote:


Michael T. Dean wrote:

Even after you fix the corrupted table, the problem will persist 
until you rebuild the seektable entries using mythcommflag.


I thought I had done that, but after I sent my last email, I realized 
I hadn't done that *after* I restored my backup.  I ran a test and 
fixed the problem, so I did --all and the problem appears to be 
resolved. Thanks a lot!


Good to hear.  After you said it didn't work, I was out of ideas.  :)

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Putting the Computer to sleep (low-power)

[chris]

On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:16:49PM +0200, Marius Schrecker wrote:
> I would also love to know how to get this to work in Linux. It's not so
> much putting the disk to sleep as keeping it there. I've never managed to
> get a HD to powerdown (using hdparm) for more than half a second without
> being woken up again. :(

If you are using a journalled filesystem (virtually anything other than
ext2) then you need to mount using the noatime option so that the
journal flushes don't trigger atime updates.

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Re: [mythtv-users] A few minor issues

[chris]

On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:57:06AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote:
> * In MythWeb, under the Music section, clicking on a track title returns 
> me to the same page, with all images/stylesheets missing, and a funny 
> URL which includes most of the path to the file in question. What is the 
> correct behaviour, and how should I be achieving it?

The correct behavior is "whatever you want it to do", and is effected by
editing the url in the mythweb/config/conf.php file.  Whatever url you
specify will have the filename appended and passed back to the browser.
The same applies to video.

> * MythVideo is using mplayer to open video files - however, these are 
> always being opened BEHIND mythfrontend - I need to alt-tab to the video 
> to interact with it. Is this a WM issue?

Yes.  You need to configure your WM so that new windows are raised and
given the keyboard focus.  This is the default for most simple WMs, but
more complicated toys like KDE may have a different raise/focus model.

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[mythtv-users] CPU recommendation instead of EPIA?

[Craig Hagerman]

I am planning on building a mythTV box and need a recommendation
regarding CPU. My original plan was to build around a mini-itx EPIA
system (EPIA M-1 or M-12000). However, after reading through this
board (and having a previous question answered) I think that I should
consider another system. I am concerned about transcoding performance
with the EPIA CPUs.

I plan to use this box only as a back end to record TV and transcode.
I understand that with EPIA CPUs performance for transcoding is
terrible. What kind of CPU would you recommend? I don't want to spend
too much (otherwise, I wouldn't ask here - I would just go buy the
lastest from AMD or Intel). Also, I would prefer to build a system
that is:
- less power-hungry (uses less electricity)
- is fairly quiet
- has a smaller form factor

This is why I originally planned a mini-itx system. I know it is a
subjective question, but what kind of (AMD / INTEL) CPU provides the
'sweet spot' for price vs. performance (vis. a vis. transcoding)?

Thanks,

Craig
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Re: [mythtv-users] Ripping excellent DVDs in latest ATRPMs

[Donavan Stanley]

On 7/31/05, Pat Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whew!  I thought I was alone!  I don't know what the transcode command
> line that mtd runs is, but running transcode by hand against a "perfect"
> ripped file creates a perfectly usable MPEG file.

You can look in the mtd log file for the transcode command line it's
going to use and try that.  Chances are transcode is segfaulting.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Cory Papenfuss]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:


On 8/1/05, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just looked through this a bit.  I must admit I haven't tried
it, but as far as I can tell from reading through the code, it starts out
by demuxing/remuxing the MPEG stream.  That will break audio sync on
arbitrary ivtv captures.


Hi,

Ok, I had not realized this.. although I have acctually used these
scripts and my recordings are all IVTV captures, so I am not sure how
big a problem this is..
Changing strategy would probably be wise though..

/Fredrik

	It's a very insidious problem.  The ivtv chip will hiccup once 
in awhile, and generated A/V offsets in the capture that break standard 
demux/remux utilities.  It doesn't happen most of the time.  It does seem 
to happen more often from tape captures (where I found it).


	Unfortunately, all of the cut and/or burn scripts (nuvexport as a 
big example) use this technique.  It works 99% for 90% of the people out 
there who never capture tapes.  It works probably 60% of the time for the 
8% of the people who don't do tapes, but have marginal reception.  It 
works 10% of the time for the 2% who capture from tapes.


	In other words, most people don't notice the problem... but some 
day they likely will... :)


-Cory



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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Fredrik Karlsson]

On 8/1/05, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just looked through this a bit.  I must admit I haven't tried
> it, but as far as I can tell from reading through the code, it starts out
> by demuxing/remuxing the MPEG stream.  That will break audio sync on
> arbitrary ivtv captures.

Hi,

Ok, I had not realized this.. although I have acctually used these
scripts and my recordings are all IVTV captures, so I am not sure how
big a problem this is..
Changing strategy would probably be wise though..

/Fredrik

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[mythtv-users] Segmentation fault?

[Tate Austin]

Hey, I am a gentoo user who just used portage to install mythtv. 
I started up mysql and configured it as appropriate, but when I attempt
to run 'myth-setup' it immediately segmentation faults.  Is this a
known issue with certain configurations or what?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Donavan Stanley]

On 7/31/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I had two issues that for me are critical.
> 
> When using xvmc with Xine none of the OSD overlays would work. This
> meant no on screen information, subtitles, or closed captions during
> playback. I didn't investigate this to much however I think it could
> be worked around. One possibility seems to be with the Xine xxmc
> support.
> 
> XvMC appears to do very simple one-field deinterlacing in hardware.
> Xine 1.1.0 has experimental XvMC bob deinterlace support which I
> enabled and saw some improvements. I compared various DVD (480i
> content) scenes played via Xv with Xine deinterlace post processing
> and XvMC with hardware deinterlace. It was pretty clear to me that Xv
> with deinterlace post processing was producing a much better picture
> than XvMC using hardware deinterlacing.


You know, you *might* want to test with Myth instead of Xine since
neither of those issues apply to Myth.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Experiences with XvMC

[Donavan Stanley]

On 7/31/05, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh yeah, one more thing :) I thought I read that some or all of the
> unichrome chips had a limitation on video out where they could not
> output 1280x720 (720p) video or above. Obviously this is a problem if
> you're trying to hook your unichrome based board to a HDTV that wants
> to accept either 720p or 1080i input sources.

On a mailing list that gets archived and searched quite often it's
best NOT to post things you thing you read as it confuses things. 
Next thing you know you've got people quoting your post in irc saying
"I read that some guy said he thought that they didn't do HDTV".  ;)

For the record, the Unichrome Pro chipset DOES offer hardware
acceleration of HDTV streams as well as MPEG4 acceleration.  (Though
the open source drivers don't support MPEG4 acceleration).

That being said, unless you REALLY want/need the mini-ITX form factor,
you're much better off with a Celeron and a decent nVidia AGP based
graphics card.  The mini-ITX based systems make great little silent
frontends but they're seriously lacking in the horsepower needed for a
good general Myth box.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Archiving Shows to DVD

[Cory Papenfuss]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:


Sorry for the nag.. :-), but I urge you all to have a look at the scrips in the
CVS for mythburn (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythburn/).
Screenshots of the results at
http://mythburn.sourceforge.net/.
Although the package is driven by MythWeb addon scripts, the scripts
doing the work are just ordinary shell scripts. In my experience, the
php fronend has a high WAF, but a QT frontend calling the scripts
would be a very big bonus. Having to start up two computers to be able
to burn a DVD feels kinda strange.

Furthermore, if the ready-to-go scripts are used, there will perhaps
not be a need for two types of burning... it comes from the good
nature of code reuse, open source and not re-inventing the wheel where
there is (as I understand it)  no need.

/Fredrik


	I just looked through this a bit.  I must admit I haven't tried 
it, but as far as I can tell from reading through the code, it starts out 
by demuxing/remuxing the MPEG stream.  That will break audio sync on 
arbitrary ivtv captures.


	The reason for suggesting two types of burning is that there 
really are two separate reasons.


1 (DVD archive): Cut out commercials, possibly denoise, downsize on a 
transcode.  Make the result with menus, multiple episodes, etc and 
playable on a settop DVD player.  A very hard problem, considering that 
the backend tools are not 100% reliable with A/V sync


2 (Mythtv archive): Dump any recorded content in the database to a 
removable medium, including any database information as an .sql stub file. 
Easy to do, and allows for archival without *any* generation loss or 
manipulation of the stream at all.


-Cory

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RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

[Brandon Rogers]

Yup

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:34 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

Do you have 'IEC958 Output' turned on in Alsamixer?

Mike Ford

On Sunday 31 July 2005 8:21 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> If this helps on the sound question, if I switch over to the standard
audio
> out jack, then I get sound as well.  Seems like the sound is being routed
> correctly over the SPDIF
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes
>
> Thanks everyone who replied on this and helped out.  The sound is still
not
> working, but holding my finger next to the optical out on the back of the
> card shows light, so I suppose that it is working from the point of view
of
> my computer, anyway.  My surround sound receiver isn't recognizing the
> signal unfortunately.  I guess the only three possible problems is that
the
> sound is being encoded in a way that the receiver doesn't understand, the
> light isn't actually carrying any sound and I still have a configuration
> problem, or the receiver has a broken optical in (which has never been
used
> before, so who knows...).  I think (hope) it is probably the second or
> first one, but I'll keep playing with it.  If you have ANY suggestions,
I'm
> pleased to receive them.
>
> Also, at first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
> actually better than the NTSC output.  However, after playing with things,
> I'm not sure this is the case.  Most of the clarity seems to come from
> simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).  Sure, there is
> *some* clarity enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low, I
> wonder if it is really worth it.  I can crank my resolution up, modulate
it
> to NTSC, and I get more screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
> average video user) are very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better),
> but by how much and is it really worth it?  What does everyone think?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> PS. I am piping the video to an HDTV over DVI->HDMI.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound
>
> Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home
> directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in
Mythtv
> and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if
> enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will
> effectively output all sound through your optical out so your
> receiver/processor can do all the work.
>
> pcm.!default {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!spdif {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!iec958 {
> type plug
> slave {
> pcm "hw:0,1"
> format S32_LE
> }
> }
>
> Mike Ford
>
> On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> > after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have
>
> posted,
>
> > I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been
> > asked 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems
like
> > a popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> > optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output
5.1
> > Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> > MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the
>
> sound
>
> > to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't
>
> work.
>
> >  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Brandon
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] image on my TV

[David Watkins]

On 01/08/05, Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ? 
> Hi, 
>  
> I am using the video out of my Haupauge PVR-350.
>  
> Forgot to include that...
>  
>  
> 

You need to give more detail on what your are doing if you want to
anyone to spot what you're doing wrong.

In broad terms you need to:

1.  Modify your xorg.conf for the PVR 350
2.  Load the ivtv-fb module
3.  configure mythfrontend to use the PVR-350 for output.

For the detail I suggest you refer to the mythtv support for whatever
flavour of linux you're using.  eg.for Fedora,
www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/
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